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I have some questions pertaining to these 2 things.

On 14 and 28 october is Witches Sabbat and I want to start a 21 or 28 purification cycle using Vissudhi. First of all I wan't to ask if I can do another working beside the Deep Cleaning posted by JG Lydia, because I don't know if I have the intimacy to do the Final RTR. Doing some other working with Vissudhi, will it work? On the same topic with the Witches Sabbat, I didn't really understand when I should start the working, by that at which hour, or time of day, or if I should use a certain planetary hour. If I start during a certain planetary hour, should the working be done the next days during the exact same planetary hour ? if not would it fail? If the working need to start at nightfall for example, should the working be done only during nightfall throughout the duration of the working? And when should I finish it? Also these dates are good to start the working? and on which should I start it? English is not my first language and sometimes expecially with important subjects, I don't understand a lot of things.

Also on cleaning, the only cleaning routine I know about beside the base aura cleaning from the site, and the deep cleaning working with Vissudhi I don't know anything. I seen some users say about cleaning with RAUM or Aum Suryae or Surya. I really want to try some others methods, but I don't find any working posted, or it's really hard to find. I can't "compose", if that's the right word, a working, or a meditation using these mantras, I can't make an afirmation, or know what numbers to use, or how to jugle with them(vibration-affirmation-vibration-affirmation or vibrate all and then affirm). I'm in a really bad mind state, from all perspectives, and I can't make/think about a routine, whenever I tried I always start ventilating thinking it'll not work because I didn't make a good working and such.

While doing the cleaning cycle from Witches Sabbat, can I do another cleaning working using another mantra? I do 4 times a day the normal cleaning from the website, can I make this alongside the other cleaning workings I am doing? I want to know about more cleaning workings as possible, I want to go as serious as I can, I know, and I'll keep in mind always that I should not burnout, or force myself. But I want to have more workings at hand to say so, I've read that work with what feels best, and I want to have more methods to switch between, but due to my state I can't compose a working and that's the reason I am making this post.

Also on cleaning, I'll give a scenario, it'll seem trivial but nothing comes to mind. If someone, let's name him X, was cursed to cough every 20 mins, he realizes that he was cursed, and does cleaning to heal himself, after cleaning he starts coughing uncontrollably to a point, Is that normal. To make things clear, I want to ask if you clean something while cleaning will it bite back while trying to get rid of it? or simply will just go away.

On protection, can I do multiple protection methods at a time? or it's not ok? I find some more protection methods on the forums, so I don't really have more questions on it.

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Also after something is completly cleaned like a chakra could the curse leave scars that need to be taken care of after the cleaning is done? Giving another situation the clarify: Let's say someone had bad energies who made him extremely depressed, after cleaning the depresion is gone but is it possible that that period of depresion leaved some scars on said person, that he should take care of? Like due to depression he thinks he doesn't deserve love, after the cleaning the depression is gone but that feeling is somewhat there, and needs to take care of that separtely. Is that possible? Would bad energies or curses, left a chakra week and in a weak spot, even after cleaing thus requiring empowering?

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I'm in a very phase of my life and a very very weak mind, I know I need to do things on my own but for the past month I tried a lot and didn't really do anything. I asking these for a kind of kickstart. I really want to try solar energies for cleaning but I didn't find anything. I want to go "hardcore" on the problems that I am going thru. I'll keep in mind to not burnout as I know is very important.

Thank you!
 
AskSatanOperator said:
Doing some other working with Vissudhi, will it work?
Yes. But it must be in line with its function.

AskSatanOperator said:
On the same topic with the Witches Sabbat, I didn't really understand when I should start the working, by that at which hour, or time of day, or if I should use a certain planetary hour. If I start during a certain planetary hour, should the working be done the next days during the exact same planetary hour ? if not would it fail? If the working need to start at nightfall for example, should the working be done only during nightfall throughout the duration of the working? And when should I finish it? Also these dates are good to start the working? and on which should I start it? English is not my first language and sometimes expecially with important subjects, I don't understand a lot of things.
You have to execute it literally as written, no more and no less.

AskSatanOperator said:
Also on cleaning, the only cleaning routine I know about beside the base aura cleaning from the site, and the deep cleaning working with Vissudhi I don't know anything. I seen some users say about cleaning with RAUM or Aum Suryae or Surya. I really want to try some others methods, but I don't find any working posted, or it's really hard to find. I can't "compose", if that's the right word, a working, or a meditation using these mantras, I can't make an afirmation, or know what numbers to use, or how to jugle with them(vibration-affirmation-vibration-affirmation or vibrate all and then affirm). I'm in a really bad mind state, from all perspectives, and I can't make/think about a routine, whenever I tried I always start ventilating thinking it'll not work because I didn't make a good working and such.
This is amply explained. You need to study the Jos.

AskSatanOperator said:
While doing the cleaning cycle from Witches Sabbat, can I do another cleaning working using another mantra? I do 4 times a day the normal cleaning from the website, can I make this alongside the other cleaning workings I am doing? I want to know about more cleaning workings as possible, I want to go as serious as I can, I know, and I'll keep in mind always that I should not burnout, or force myself. But I want to have more workings at hand to say so, I've read that work with what feels best, and I want to have more methods to switch between, but due to my state I can't compose a working and that's the reason I am making this post.
Yes, you have to keep doing the daily cleaning, this is an "extra" cleaning process. This is also explained in the post very clearly.

AskSatanOperator said:
Also on cleaning, I'll give a scenario, it'll seem trivial but nothing comes to mind. If someone, let's name him X, was cursed to cough every 20 mins, he realizes that he was cursed, and does cleaning to heal himself, after cleaning he starts coughing uncontrollably to a point, Is that normal. To make things clear, I want to ask if you clean something while cleaning will it bite back while trying to get rid of it? or simply will just go away.

On protection, can I do multiple protection methods at a time? or it's not ok? I find some more protection methods on the forums, so I don't really have more questions on it.

During the cleaning and healing phase, "problems" will surface and need to be addressed in order to be cleaned up. Such as repressed emotions, removed memories etcc...

AskSatanOperator said:
Also after something is completly cleaned like a chakra could the curse leave scars that need to be taken care of after the cleaning is done? Giving another situation the clarify: Let's say someone had bad energies who made him extremely depressed, after cleaning the depresion is gone but is it possible that that period of depresion leaved some scars on said person, that he should take care of? Like due to depression he thinks he doesn't deserve love, after the cleaning the depression is gone but that feeling is somewhat there, and needs to take care of that separtely. Is that possible? Would bad energies or curses, left a chakra week and in a weak spot, even after cleaing thus requiring empowering?


Absolutely. One may encounter additional "issues" derived from spiritual degeneration, which will then need to be further resolved through other types of works.

But this is all part of the cleansing and healing process.
 
AskSatanOperator said:

I think you are overthinking some of this. That is not to say that there are not better methods than others, but you can start basic cleaning now, then update this routine as you learn something new. You need to gain experience with simple cleaning of yourself, or other meditations, in order to build up your confidence.

In general, Saturday is the best day of the week, as well as for a planetary hour, as this relates to cutting out negativity. Next, the Sun can also work. While similar times of the day are ideal, this will not destroy the working if you cannot maintain this. In general, it is best that you do not panic in this way, ever, as the panic is usually worse than reality.

Number wise, 6 or 7 relate to cleanliness and purity, respectively, and 9 relates to wholeness, but also endings of negativity. With runes, you can use the number of that rune, like 16 for Sowilo. 36 or 111 are numbers of the Sun and can also work well.

With the affirmation, this follows your intent. Just make it simple, like "This energy of Sowilo has strongly and permanently cleaned me" x6, then visually direct this where you want, like your aura or chakras.

You can break up your workings into chunks if you want, but I raise all my energy before programming it, and I believe most people do this. So you would chant 36x Sowilo, for example, then say the affirmation and visualize this process during and after the affirmation.

Although all magick can have some side effects, these are the result of positive transformations and should not be feared. Generally, cleaning should give good results, as a clean soul experiences less negativity.

Yes, you can do multiple protection methods. This is what I do.

In regards to this question of "scars", or negative karma/behavioral patterns, yes I believe this is possible. Cleaning is related to, but also separate from doing workings specific for our negative karmic behaviors. When we remove negative karma with separate workings, such as using Wunjo to remove depression, this can cause dirt to come out of the soul, which would require extra cleaning in order to mitigate any negativity (such as feeling bad on some days during the course of the working).

So in some sense, just cleaning shouldn't be relied upon as the only method for advancement, yet it is also essential in its own way. This holds true for many different practices, as each has unique qualities.

Hopefully, I answered all your questions.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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