Egon
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Here are some interesting answers by HP HoodedCobra from the Temple in the Element app, which he asked to save and repost in the forums. Text outside quotes are his words:
Advanced concepts into this are normal to not understand. There are many layers to these things. One is the basic layer, which is entry symbols; ie, Zeus. Then we have subsequent layers to the Gods. What people knew until today was basic mythology, ie, Daddy Satan came to earth and made mankind. He was known as Enki or whatever in the past, and before hand by another name. That is true but it's layer one. There are four subsequent layers.
I am bringing the JoS to a far higher level with these changes, because this is almost childish. It was great for it's time, but it's entry level knowledge.
The enemy also literally calls Satan and Beelzebul interchangeably. Further, many of the "Goetic Names" are literally just epithets of Zeus. There is a long amount of information I must share.
Zeus Ammonas exists, Zeus Alastor
This is advanced Ancient theology and it's not a subject that is as easy like saying "Daddy Satan descended and made babies with a soul here"
We are moving past this level, just give me time to clarify and explain and then all will make total sense.
All the people worldwide in the past, some did "Dedication" to Marduk, others did to Zeus in Greece and others did to Indra or something. In the end of the day, the same Being pulls the telephone on the other line.
Due to the enemy we called him Satan in that interval, and that's great and sacred too.
In another planet, maybe they all Satan something else, for example.
Melek Taus? Still the same.
All the descriptions and how they all describe the Being, overlap completely.
Cultural context creates different approaches to the same thing, but when they describe THE THING ITSELF, then one can see it's the same.
The enemy knows this very well, for example, in this language a bird is called Bird and in another Pouli but if you ask about "What it is" they will both point at the same bird.
We will focus on "What it is" now and stop focusing on superficialities such as if Daddy Satan has a big trident or a gold plated one, this is lesser and for children.
We are going into adulthood spiritually now, and there is a long way to go.
All the stories about who we call Satan, do refer to the same underlying concept: made humanity, made the Gods, forefathered the Gods, started expedition for earth, gave meditational knowledge to humanity, the list is endless. You can call him Tom or Brad if you would like.
The use of Names aka Holy Names is a whole other chapter in this topic, but we need to focus on the essential and not on the cartoon interpretations (these are good for entry level and children to understand things).
As about the Goetic Names, the Goetic Names are mix-mashes of Ancient Names of the Gods, or simply mashed up words (trashed Holy Names - some are intact).
Ipos for example, means Horse in Ancient Greek. Alastor for example, is from Zeus Alastor which is directly Ancient Greek.
It's a Jewish mix-mash and picking of 72 very important deities, primarily for cursing purposes. The Gods we will have in the JoS will exceed 116
Asclepius for example, was worshipped and healed people for thousands of years. Nowhere in the "Goetia".
They just collected 72 of the most important Names to curse. Yes.
Curse, pervert and malform.
Astaroth which is Astarte (all scientists KNOW she is the Goddess Venus/Aphrodite and Isis), is an example.
With the Zeus Satya I merely took the two important topics and brought them in the front permanently and eternally to everyone. Our God and Truth. What more is there?
The Sigils originate from Sumeria and they are Ancient, Alchemical Symbols. They are fine. Without an accurate sigil, they could never curse the Gods (they are validated by this and by their use).
We are occult and deep here, we don't do surface things. The "Religion" most are used to on the planet is have sky daddy and ask for favors all day long and be whipped for sinning.
This has nothing to do with what religion truly is.
Satya of course is not "easy to grasp", it's the concept of Eternal Truth
If one could fathom it instantly they would be a God, it's an essential thing to move TOWARD for the time being
You can use any "Name" you want. Keep using Satan or keep using Zeus. The same being will hear you.
So long they are on "This side", that will be the case.
Maelstorm this is advanced theological concern and these are astral mechanics. You can literally say "My Guardian Demon" in your mind and your Guardian Demon will listen to you even if you don't know their "name".
They still guide you without necessarily you saying the "Right Name".
A jew saying "God Help me!" evokes their reptilian hive by default, and a Gentile saying "God Help me" evokes the Gods by default. Does that make sense?
The Tengri and other question about Satan and Beelzebul is the same thing.
Let me explain, you will see what I mean.
The world is divided in two aspects: Created Universe, Uncreated Universe.
Satan and anything Spiritual, does fall under the uncreated universe (supernal, transcedental, spiritual)
Beelzebul is on the "manifested universe", ie, physical, set rules of the astral or material, and so on.
These two are One insofar the universe is one, in the same way potential and reality are connected.
Satan, Beelzebul, Astarte and Azazel (4 Crowns) symbolize 4 things: Supernal Spirituality (Ultimate Truth beyond space-time, Satya)
Beelzebul: Authority, power, structure of the Universe, the "Created", the existing, what "Is"
Astarte equals to Form: Design, beauty, formation of things, divine laws like the fibonacci structure (how the universe is created)
Azazel finally is the evident face of creation (the Light, Sun, visible power, natural laws of light, the very manifest)
However, all of these forces, IN PRINCIPLE, are how the universe works.
In the 12 house "Ancient Greek Pantheon", it's these 4 primary underlying principles, but broken into further 3 Gods each.
6 Males, 6 Females
In Ancient Hinduism, they break this into Three Powers (Creation, Maintenance, Destruction) - Shiva, Brahma, Vishnu
But the underlying message is always the same, in deep Hinduism, they know "Shiva, Brahma and Vishnu" are the same "ultimate being" or merely, Satya or the Truth
However, they also operate in a subsequent and non invasive to each other, basis.
Creation cannot be "destruction", "Destruction" is not the same as Maintenance (Vishnu)
However, primarily, they all boil down to "One Universal Power".
Yes, in Quantum Physics, you have the Positive, Negative and "Potential" co-existing AT THE SAME TIME and DIVIDED.
This is of course confusing logically, because our logic is very "linear".
Now, in regard to the "voices people hear" and so on. What you hear or what you see, can be very close to others, but the experience can be PSYCHOLOGICALLY DISTINCTIVE.
That's because communication goes through this filter: you.
The message one receives, is unavoidably affected by them. In order to surpass this, one must be exceptionally advanced, and past the point of where one's own psychology interferes.
A person watching a lot of anime, might legitimately pray and see an anime figure. Another influenced by Ancient Statues, might see that force. A man who has no idea, might see something else. They however all receive the same "Input".
The underlying message, is however from the same being and same entity, so there is nothing to worry about.
So this should not worry us on a fundamental level.
I have said in a seminar of JoS donors about this topic. For example, you pray to Satan or Zeus, to send you help for lets say, coding on your computer (this is a topic ruled over by Thoth)
"What" God will be sent is not relevant, this is up to the office of the Gods (they can send a minor Demon, answer directly, or send another one) but in the end of the day, you will get your help.
When you open up more, you can know the details of this and that's the whole point. But fundamentally, the Gods operate as a large family of distinct entities that cover each their post, and operate as "One".
For example, if I call the "government" for fixing lightbulbs in the street, not necessarily the President will arrive, but the presidential mandate will send the lightbulb expert electrician.
The only thing I see, is that the Government responded.
If I go down and I talk with the man maybe his name is not President maybe they are called Tom or it's someone else. Doesn't matter. But if we have to take a specific lightbulb fixing project, it's important to know. That's for later on in spiritual advancement.
So one must not stress over these details almost at all.
There are spiritual cultures in the past who were far more elaborate in these topics and others less elaborate.
The reason subsequent Gods exist, is to help you also focus the mind. For example, when one wants to pray for victory in a dispute or a war, they would refer to a God of War.
But as many of you have noticed, if you just generally pray to your GD or Satan, whether the topic is "inside their office" or not, you still get helped. They direct other Gods to the task.
For psychological purposes or depending on what we need, we pick a God. This centers us.
When the culture is removed and/or too simplified, people don't know many details. The Gods still us very clearly from above, but we do not.
The important thing therefore becomes to create a solid culture, through which, these things are proper and distinct and accurate, for our own mind's operation also.
The hierarchy of the Gods is important also here, for example, on very large affairs, we inquire straight to Presidential higher up authority. But you will not ask Zeus what color to paint your fingernails (nor you will likely receive an answer about this topic).
A lesser God whose task is for aesthetics, can help in that regard. When we know, we can go to them.
Hope this clarifies this question
By definition when you ask for "material" favors, the Gods send lower ranking Gods who are closer to the material realm.
When you ask for example on what to advance on spiritually, then you will be sent a being that is in accordance to that dimension of existence.
Zeus in the case, was picked because as I said, they refer to him as "Pantokrator" which means "He who holds the whole universe". They ascribe to him 345+ epithets for everything. They also call him the "One" in the same one calls a president a president. Regardless, many of the subsequent Gods deserve massive reverence of their own right.
For the same reason I am a mathematician, a physicist, a dancer, and a gamer, for my son who is in the first grade.
That's because we humans need instruction models to understand all the great complexity of things, when we are on a basic level.
Religion = A way for humanity to grasp spiritual and natural laws and concepts and expand it's knowledge and understanding based on these.
In a sense yes, you are an "Actor" but that doesn't mean you lie, you teach truly.
My son still knows it's me being the mathematician for example, but I assume this role in front of him, so he can learn math,
Yes, direct correlation between the 12 Gods and the 12 Zodiac signs.
They are said to be Twins because Apollo and Artemis were twins in the Ancient Greek Mythology
Artemis, Aphrodite and Demeter are supposed to be Astarte broken in 3 subsequent identitiers.
The Jewish grimoires have taken a lot of this information and twisted it to no ends, but it was based on truthful knowledge that later got completely botched down.
The 12 Gods divide into 4 elements, 3 Astrology signs for each element.
This is called Mythology. Mythology is stories that were written about the Gods, to describe either cosmological, historical, or supernatural events, like again, stories. These stories contain codes (Not literal things) which have to do with knowledge the Initiated ones have, so when they read them, they understand what meditations to do, or what to do.
Mythology was written by men and is a mix of sometimes history, other times made up poetry, but generally coded information in literary form.
People say all these things about flaws because they deny the nature of this text. This is an Ancient problem, ie, "how do we pass down knowledge that should exist everywhere, but is only for the eyes of the Initiates and codify it so only the worthy can have it, but it won't be lost? Mythology."
However, when andrapoda or NPC's read this knowledge, they draw NPC conclusions about it, ie, literalize it and take it out of context.
So the Gods codify these things in mythology that they passed down, so that it exists, but still contains the occult and hidden information inside it, without it being obvious to the general public.
Humans also have historically written their own bogus. The difference between the bogus and the real, is that the real contains hard-power knowledge and cosmological truth, and the other is like reading pseudepigraphical fairytales.
Children are fascinated by mythology as mythology is supposed to be taught to children, who require vivid imagery to start grasping basic context of existence.
Good mythology also has moral and ethical teachings to pass down to the next generations in very simplified form.
If you were in Ancient Egypt with a High Priest, and you looked on the Hieroglyphs, they would explain to you what meditation this is (only if you were an Initiate too). If you went down with a local traveller, they would tell you "Oh, Jackal headed thing giving juice water with this cross typa thing".
All our modern knowledge in the present world about "The Ancient World" is neaderthals who found these things and say "Damn boi dis Isis ting with the wings bro, she give water to her hubby bro".
Aka, nothing spiritual. Aka, misinformation. Aka, perpetuation of retardation.
"Damn the Ancient Egyptians had porn because Osiris has an erection here, lol"
That's NPC interpretation of totally foreign to their mind, subjects.
The Illiad and Odyssey are hardcore symbolism books, and they also have powerful moral questions and imperatives, to activate your mind when reading this. They work on many levels.
They were "The Bible before the Bible"
Veda, Illiad and Odyssey, are basically the original "Bibles" that we have
Homer was a Demi-God and reached Godhead, it's clear
Maximum level of Initiation is present in Homer.
Homer was also a semi-legendary being even for the people of his time and for 3000 years later.
Now I want to also mention something else about Mythology. Insane people or pseudepigraphical writters in the centuries, also wrote things, which were later dismissed by the high clergy or top initiates of the time. That's literary garbage.
For example, a bunch of pedophiles from the Ancient Island of Crete, because they had a local norm to marry very young people, they tried to write that it was justified by pinning this to a God, Zeus specifically. Plato, which was like saying, the ultimate spiritual authority of his time, explained this was literary filth and in no way connected to the Gods.
These things happen in history because as we can understand, a lot of people are mentally ill.
Yes, totally real. The place where he died and imprisoned exists to this very day in Athens, Greece.
All of these events happened including the Athenians getting angry (could have been Jews by the time) and bringing him in the tribunal for execution.
Humanity has also done many errors it's not only the jews.
We can talk about the story of Socrates in the live AMA, it's a very interesting story
Socrates was top initiate, top mysteries initiate and so on, so forth.
The large masses, cannot always ingest certain knowledge. If I appear in office in front of modern day politicians and say somethings, I will be headed to execution also.
Socrates basically saw that politicans and others of his time were going derailed and he was a very eccentric and wise person, and he saw them having greed and other forms of problems, and when he pointed this out, they basically out of anger executed him.
The sigil of Satan has to do with the world as it manifests, the visual field (Lucifer, bringer of light, seen into the unseen)
The Sigil of Beelzebul is Thor's Hammer (one sigil) which is the vital lifeforce that keeps the whole universe going. Both are fundamental to the existence of the universe.
What we see on statues and so forth, albeit extremely close to the Gods, is still symbolic representation of the forces. One way to describe "Being an elder" is to ascribe a beard to a statue, like old humans and wise humans have a beard.
The Ancient Greeks were super close to the representations of the Gods, almost the same, but they still included certain elements to teach about concepts. Others like Egypt focused more on showing other concepts and forces. Statues are not supposed to be direct representations.
Statues are supposed to be symbolic so each nature of each God can be understood.
Real "forms" are what one sees after they open up astral sight and so on, they are not the same.
Shiva for example being blue and all of this, is supposed to be symbolism, the Gods don't have 12 hands or something. The 12 hands are supposed to symbolize something; for example, 12 astrological signs or directions.
Each cultures picks a different way to show this, but they generally refer to the same underlying principles, depending on how many things they want to put as information in the object they have in front of them.
Yes, the 72 is a very important spiritual number overall as is 144. 72 is the half of 144 (number of Nadis in the Soul)
Number of LARGE nadis in the soul
The 72 represents the half which is the "dark" and "undiscovered"
These 72 Gods primarily symbolize the untapped potentials also inside each soul
So the choice of 72 Gods to desecrate goes deeper, it's an indepth occult choice by the enemy
Long story short, to lock key areas of understanding in the human soul.
If you divide the full circle (360) by 5 (5 elements) you get 72.
So the year is divided by 72, because each of these, works to rectify an element of the soul and one element from the soul.
Yes, through ancestry.
The Ancients are not beating around the bush, they mention explicitly we are all seeded here by the Gods.
The potential is already within the only question is tapping it.
The degree of tapping it, wisdom, evolution etc, is the degree of how close one is to the Godhead.
By the end of all the 72 + extra Demon Rituals what we will have, is essentially a yearly schedule, for working all these aspects of the soul to accelerate evolution + venerate the Gods.
That's why these exist in the first place and that's what these do.
Yes, it can, because it can clarify your mind, make you be inquisitive, learn research, and generally expand your mind (extremely essential to reach Godhead, without it, one cannot by mere practices. The mind needs sharpening.)
Discourse (that's how what we call modern philosophy was called, was called in the past) was a specific system of thought process, to teach people how to arrive at correct conclusions.
Socrates was a master of this, this is necessary to know how to ask to receive answers. This later extends to the Gods also, how one asks them etc. Another topic that was covered in JoS Donors.
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Correct, because your mind is closer to them and therefore can receive their messages better. And your life will also drastically improve when you do this (materially and spiritually) because you enter in correct alignment.
I would say about 75% of all diseases.
25% is because of genetic and natural factors (we need purity in existence, exercise etc)
Very complex situation. The body is affected by many types of things; material karma (heredity) soul karma (what the soul coming in has) and external factors (diet, everything else). The more problems in each area, the poorer the health.
Certain diseases cannot be cured and that's why we need material science to proceed. Indirectly, as people, scientists and so on, raise Serpents, they will have the insight into the material realm to solve these questions. But a LOT can be solved by the Serpent.
In many places of the planet, many people have bad health, not because of their souls or anything, but merely due to environmental issues.
You can be risen or whatever, but you can still die if you consume impurity and deadly things all the time, the environment plays a large role.
However, your overall health and vitality, might be on a very higher level compared to most others, one is still vulnerable to bullets or bad diet for example. But the chances of having a worthless diet are far less with wisdom.
In the long-term, yes, when one meditates, a lot of these genes can shut off, or one can make sound choices in life which do not trigger them.
Correct, that is man's error, not the error of their souls or anything. 100% material.
Many diseases, are 100% material, not emotional or spiritual.
A large majority of bad genes activate due to poor diet or excessive, deadly stress.
Let's just say if one keeps these things in check, they will most likely have a far higher health than anyone else.
Health is a very complex topic, but be aware, sometimes, 100% of something is material.
Based on my research which could have been far more elaborate (I am not a physician) I find out that any "strict" dietary norm is false.
Hippocrates explains that each person, has to have a different diet.
Along the lines, we can follow healthy choices (overall to the species) but some systems and some people have to find it out their own way. This knowledge exist in the Hippocratic knowledge but I am not yet sufficiently attained on this to talk at an 100% about the subject.
I am therefore not qualified and don't want to now provide falsehood in my answers.
From what I see, overall, the element construction of a soul, also helps a lot with the diet.
For example: high fire can eat more meat,but if you are water or earth predominant, you should avoid heavy foods.
When also people were sick, the Hippocratics healed them with meditation + diet.
And they also had elaborate rituals that involved the sea water, which they believed had miraculous effects. Based on what people wrote, they did certain things, went into the sea, and they had dramatic acceleration in their healing processes.
All Ancients agree that sea-water and taking swims, is of excessive importance to health.
Even in the pool it's better than nothing.
Yes, baptism primarily was based on the term of being washed away from negative impurities physically and spiritually. It's originally Pagan.
The first layer of the Ancient mysteries was literally a baptism.
Psycholgocially when you want to "clear your mind" you have a shower.
You can have major issues, you take a shower, you come out, it all feels different, at least one bit after the shower.
Water is essentially pure life-form.
Water is very sacred. Unlike earth, air or fire (these cannot clear us out) only water can.
It's very similar, that's why babies are considered pure until the time they are born, they are literally in the water of life.
When one is born, they come out of the water (another symbolism of the Mysteries I wrote about earlier).
You cannot step into a fire and do this, you fry.
That's why Fire is considered the spiritual element, water is life friendly, fire is not life friendly, it's life friendly in very miniscule amounts and when it warms water.
A very easy way to invoke Earth is to go out in a forest, barefoot, and imagine you are inhaling the earth itself.
FEEL.
Even imagining soil can do it, but focus on the feeling. How does the earth feel?
Much love and thank you all may the Gods bless you forever.
Advanced concepts into this are normal to not understand. There are many layers to these things. One is the basic layer, which is entry symbols; ie, Zeus. Then we have subsequent layers to the Gods. What people knew until today was basic mythology, ie, Daddy Satan came to earth and made mankind. He was known as Enki or whatever in the past, and before hand by another name. That is true but it's layer one. There are four subsequent layers.
I am bringing the JoS to a far higher level with these changes, because this is almost childish. It was great for it's time, but it's entry level knowledge.
The enemy also literally calls Satan and Beelzebul interchangeably. Further, many of the "Goetic Names" are literally just epithets of Zeus. There is a long amount of information I must share.
Zeus Ammonas exists, Zeus Alastor
This is advanced Ancient theology and it's not a subject that is as easy like saying "Daddy Satan descended and made babies with a soul here"
We are moving past this level, just give me time to clarify and explain and then all will make total sense.
All the people worldwide in the past, some did "Dedication" to Marduk, others did to Zeus in Greece and others did to Indra or something. In the end of the day, the same Being pulls the telephone on the other line.
Due to the enemy we called him Satan in that interval, and that's great and sacred too.
In another planet, maybe they all Satan something else, for example.
Melek Taus? Still the same.
All the descriptions and how they all describe the Being, overlap completely.
Cultural context creates different approaches to the same thing, but when they describe THE THING ITSELF, then one can see it's the same.
The enemy knows this very well, for example, in this language a bird is called Bird and in another Pouli but if you ask about "What it is" they will both point at the same bird.
We will focus on "What it is" now and stop focusing on superficialities such as if Daddy Satan has a big trident or a gold plated one, this is lesser and for children.
We are going into adulthood spiritually now, and there is a long way to go.
All the stories about who we call Satan, do refer to the same underlying concept: made humanity, made the Gods, forefathered the Gods, started expedition for earth, gave meditational knowledge to humanity, the list is endless. You can call him Tom or Brad if you would like.
The use of Names aka Holy Names is a whole other chapter in this topic, but we need to focus on the essential and not on the cartoon interpretations (these are good for entry level and children to understand things).
As about the Goetic Names, the Goetic Names are mix-mashes of Ancient Names of the Gods, or simply mashed up words (trashed Holy Names - some are intact).
Ipos for example, means Horse in Ancient Greek. Alastor for example, is from Zeus Alastor which is directly Ancient Greek.
It's a Jewish mix-mash and picking of 72 very important deities, primarily for cursing purposes. The Gods we will have in the JoS will exceed 116
Asclepius for example, was worshipped and healed people for thousands of years. Nowhere in the "Goetia".
They just collected 72 of the most important Names to curse. Yes.
Curse, pervert and malform.
Astaroth which is Astarte (all scientists KNOW she is the Goddess Venus/Aphrodite and Isis), is an example.
With the Zeus Satya I merely took the two important topics and brought them in the front permanently and eternally to everyone. Our God and Truth. What more is there?
The Sigils originate from Sumeria and they are Ancient, Alchemical Symbols. They are fine. Without an accurate sigil, they could never curse the Gods (they are validated by this and by their use).
We are occult and deep here, we don't do surface things. The "Religion" most are used to on the planet is have sky daddy and ask for favors all day long and be whipped for sinning.
This has nothing to do with what religion truly is.
Satya of course is not "easy to grasp", it's the concept of Eternal Truth
If one could fathom it instantly they would be a God, it's an essential thing to move TOWARD for the time being
You can use any "Name" you want. Keep using Satan or keep using Zeus. The same being will hear you.
So long they are on "This side", that will be the case.
Maelstorm this is advanced theological concern and these are astral mechanics. You can literally say "My Guardian Demon" in your mind and your Guardian Demon will listen to you even if you don't know their "name".
They still guide you without necessarily you saying the "Right Name".
A jew saying "God Help me!" evokes their reptilian hive by default, and a Gentile saying "God Help me" evokes the Gods by default. Does that make sense?
The Tengri and other question about Satan and Beelzebul is the same thing.
Let me explain, you will see what I mean.
The world is divided in two aspects: Created Universe, Uncreated Universe.
Satan and anything Spiritual, does fall under the uncreated universe (supernal, transcedental, spiritual)
Beelzebul is on the "manifested universe", ie, physical, set rules of the astral or material, and so on.
These two are One insofar the universe is one, in the same way potential and reality are connected.
Satan, Beelzebul, Astarte and Azazel (4 Crowns) symbolize 4 things: Supernal Spirituality (Ultimate Truth beyond space-time, Satya)
Beelzebul: Authority, power, structure of the Universe, the "Created", the existing, what "Is"
Astarte equals to Form: Design, beauty, formation of things, divine laws like the fibonacci structure (how the universe is created)
Azazel finally is the evident face of creation (the Light, Sun, visible power, natural laws of light, the very manifest)
However, all of these forces, IN PRINCIPLE, are how the universe works.
In the 12 house "Ancient Greek Pantheon", it's these 4 primary underlying principles, but broken into further 3 Gods each.
6 Males, 6 Females
In Ancient Hinduism, they break this into Three Powers (Creation, Maintenance, Destruction) - Shiva, Brahma, Vishnu
But the underlying message is always the same, in deep Hinduism, they know "Shiva, Brahma and Vishnu" are the same "ultimate being" or merely, Satya or the Truth
However, they also operate in a subsequent and non invasive to each other, basis.
Creation cannot be "destruction", "Destruction" is not the same as Maintenance (Vishnu)
However, primarily, they all boil down to "One Universal Power".
Yes, in Quantum Physics, you have the Positive, Negative and "Potential" co-existing AT THE SAME TIME and DIVIDED.
This is of course confusing logically, because our logic is very "linear".
Now, in regard to the "voices people hear" and so on. What you hear or what you see, can be very close to others, but the experience can be PSYCHOLOGICALLY DISTINCTIVE.
That's because communication goes through this filter: you.
The message one receives, is unavoidably affected by them. In order to surpass this, one must be exceptionally advanced, and past the point of where one's own psychology interferes.
A person watching a lot of anime, might legitimately pray and see an anime figure. Another influenced by Ancient Statues, might see that force. A man who has no idea, might see something else. They however all receive the same "Input".
The underlying message, is however from the same being and same entity, so there is nothing to worry about.
So this should not worry us on a fundamental level.
I have said in a seminar of JoS donors about this topic. For example, you pray to Satan or Zeus, to send you help for lets say, coding on your computer (this is a topic ruled over by Thoth)
"What" God will be sent is not relevant, this is up to the office of the Gods (they can send a minor Demon, answer directly, or send another one) but in the end of the day, you will get your help.
When you open up more, you can know the details of this and that's the whole point. But fundamentally, the Gods operate as a large family of distinct entities that cover each their post, and operate as "One".
For example, if I call the "government" for fixing lightbulbs in the street, not necessarily the President will arrive, but the presidential mandate will send the lightbulb expert electrician.
The only thing I see, is that the Government responded.
If I go down and I talk with the man maybe his name is not President maybe they are called Tom or it's someone else. Doesn't matter. But if we have to take a specific lightbulb fixing project, it's important to know. That's for later on in spiritual advancement.
So one must not stress over these details almost at all.
There are spiritual cultures in the past who were far more elaborate in these topics and others less elaborate.
The reason subsequent Gods exist, is to help you also focus the mind. For example, when one wants to pray for victory in a dispute or a war, they would refer to a God of War.
But as many of you have noticed, if you just generally pray to your GD or Satan, whether the topic is "inside their office" or not, you still get helped. They direct other Gods to the task.
For psychological purposes or depending on what we need, we pick a God. This centers us.
When the culture is removed and/or too simplified, people don't know many details. The Gods still us very clearly from above, but we do not.
The important thing therefore becomes to create a solid culture, through which, these things are proper and distinct and accurate, for our own mind's operation also.
The hierarchy of the Gods is important also here, for example, on very large affairs, we inquire straight to Presidential higher up authority. But you will not ask Zeus what color to paint your fingernails (nor you will likely receive an answer about this topic).
A lesser God whose task is for aesthetics, can help in that regard. When we know, we can go to them.
Hope this clarifies this question
By definition when you ask for "material" favors, the Gods send lower ranking Gods who are closer to the material realm.
When you ask for example on what to advance on spiritually, then you will be sent a being that is in accordance to that dimension of existence.
Zeus in the case, was picked because as I said, they refer to him as "Pantokrator" which means "He who holds the whole universe". They ascribe to him 345+ epithets for everything. They also call him the "One" in the same one calls a president a president. Regardless, many of the subsequent Gods deserve massive reverence of their own right.
For the same reason I am a mathematician, a physicist, a dancer, and a gamer, for my son who is in the first grade.
That's because we humans need instruction models to understand all the great complexity of things, when we are on a basic level.
Religion = A way for humanity to grasp spiritual and natural laws and concepts and expand it's knowledge and understanding based on these.
In a sense yes, you are an "Actor" but that doesn't mean you lie, you teach truly.
My son still knows it's me being the mathematician for example, but I assume this role in front of him, so he can learn math,
Yes, direct correlation between the 12 Gods and the 12 Zodiac signs.
They are said to be Twins because Apollo and Artemis were twins in the Ancient Greek Mythology
Artemis, Aphrodite and Demeter are supposed to be Astarte broken in 3 subsequent identitiers.
The Jewish grimoires have taken a lot of this information and twisted it to no ends, but it was based on truthful knowledge that later got completely botched down.
The 12 Gods divide into 4 elements, 3 Astrology signs for each element.
This is called Mythology. Mythology is stories that were written about the Gods, to describe either cosmological, historical, or supernatural events, like again, stories. These stories contain codes (Not literal things) which have to do with knowledge the Initiated ones have, so when they read them, they understand what meditations to do, or what to do.
Mythology was written by men and is a mix of sometimes history, other times made up poetry, but generally coded information in literary form.
People say all these things about flaws because they deny the nature of this text. This is an Ancient problem, ie, "how do we pass down knowledge that should exist everywhere, but is only for the eyes of the Initiates and codify it so only the worthy can have it, but it won't be lost? Mythology."
However, when andrapoda or NPC's read this knowledge, they draw NPC conclusions about it, ie, literalize it and take it out of context.
So the Gods codify these things in mythology that they passed down, so that it exists, but still contains the occult and hidden information inside it, without it being obvious to the general public.
Humans also have historically written their own bogus. The difference between the bogus and the real, is that the real contains hard-power knowledge and cosmological truth, and the other is like reading pseudepigraphical fairytales.
Children are fascinated by mythology as mythology is supposed to be taught to children, who require vivid imagery to start grasping basic context of existence.
Good mythology also has moral and ethical teachings to pass down to the next generations in very simplified form.
If you were in Ancient Egypt with a High Priest, and you looked on the Hieroglyphs, they would explain to you what meditation this is (only if you were an Initiate too). If you went down with a local traveller, they would tell you "Oh, Jackal headed thing giving juice water with this cross typa thing".
All our modern knowledge in the present world about "The Ancient World" is neaderthals who found these things and say "Damn boi dis Isis ting with the wings bro, she give water to her hubby bro".
Aka, nothing spiritual. Aka, misinformation. Aka, perpetuation of retardation.
"Damn the Ancient Egyptians had porn because Osiris has an erection here, lol"
That's NPC interpretation of totally foreign to their mind, subjects.
The Illiad and Odyssey are hardcore symbolism books, and they also have powerful moral questions and imperatives, to activate your mind when reading this. They work on many levels.
They were "The Bible before the Bible"
Veda, Illiad and Odyssey, are basically the original "Bibles" that we have
Homer was a Demi-God and reached Godhead, it's clear
Maximum level of Initiation is present in Homer.
Homer was also a semi-legendary being even for the people of his time and for 3000 years later.
Now I want to also mention something else about Mythology. Insane people or pseudepigraphical writters in the centuries, also wrote things, which were later dismissed by the high clergy or top initiates of the time. That's literary garbage.
For example, a bunch of pedophiles from the Ancient Island of Crete, because they had a local norm to marry very young people, they tried to write that it was justified by pinning this to a God, Zeus specifically. Plato, which was like saying, the ultimate spiritual authority of his time, explained this was literary filth and in no way connected to the Gods.
These things happen in history because as we can understand, a lot of people are mentally ill.
Yes, totally real. The place where he died and imprisoned exists to this very day in Athens, Greece.
All of these events happened including the Athenians getting angry (could have been Jews by the time) and bringing him in the tribunal for execution.
Humanity has also done many errors it's not only the jews.
We can talk about the story of Socrates in the live AMA, it's a very interesting story
Socrates was top initiate, top mysteries initiate and so on, so forth.
The large masses, cannot always ingest certain knowledge. If I appear in office in front of modern day politicians and say somethings, I will be headed to execution also.
Socrates basically saw that politicans and others of his time were going derailed and he was a very eccentric and wise person, and he saw them having greed and other forms of problems, and when he pointed this out, they basically out of anger executed him.
The sigil of Satan has to do with the world as it manifests, the visual field (Lucifer, bringer of light, seen into the unseen)
The Sigil of Beelzebul is Thor's Hammer (one sigil) which is the vital lifeforce that keeps the whole universe going. Both are fundamental to the existence of the universe.
What we see on statues and so forth, albeit extremely close to the Gods, is still symbolic representation of the forces. One way to describe "Being an elder" is to ascribe a beard to a statue, like old humans and wise humans have a beard.
The Ancient Greeks were super close to the representations of the Gods, almost the same, but they still included certain elements to teach about concepts. Others like Egypt focused more on showing other concepts and forces. Statues are not supposed to be direct representations.
Statues are supposed to be symbolic so each nature of each God can be understood.
Real "forms" are what one sees after they open up astral sight and so on, they are not the same.
Shiva for example being blue and all of this, is supposed to be symbolism, the Gods don't have 12 hands or something. The 12 hands are supposed to symbolize something; for example, 12 astrological signs or directions.
Each cultures picks a different way to show this, but they generally refer to the same underlying principles, depending on how many things they want to put as information in the object they have in front of them.
Yes, the 72 is a very important spiritual number overall as is 144. 72 is the half of 144 (number of Nadis in the Soul)
Number of LARGE nadis in the soul
The 72 represents the half which is the "dark" and "undiscovered"
These 72 Gods primarily symbolize the untapped potentials also inside each soul
So the choice of 72 Gods to desecrate goes deeper, it's an indepth occult choice by the enemy
Long story short, to lock key areas of understanding in the human soul.
If you divide the full circle (360) by 5 (5 elements) you get 72.
So the year is divided by 72, because each of these, works to rectify an element of the soul and one element from the soul.
Yes, through ancestry.
The Ancients are not beating around the bush, they mention explicitly we are all seeded here by the Gods.
The potential is already within the only question is tapping it.
The degree of tapping it, wisdom, evolution etc, is the degree of how close one is to the Godhead.
By the end of all the 72 + extra Demon Rituals what we will have, is essentially a yearly schedule, for working all these aspects of the soul to accelerate evolution + venerate the Gods.
That's why these exist in the first place and that's what these do.
Yes, it can, because it can clarify your mind, make you be inquisitive, learn research, and generally expand your mind (extremely essential to reach Godhead, without it, one cannot by mere practices. The mind needs sharpening.)
Discourse (that's how what we call modern philosophy was called, was called in the past) was a specific system of thought process, to teach people how to arrive at correct conclusions.
Socrates was a master of this, this is necessary to know how to ask to receive answers. This later extends to the Gods also, how one asks them etc. Another topic that was covered in JoS Donors.
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Correct, because your mind is closer to them and therefore can receive their messages better. And your life will also drastically improve when you do this (materially and spiritually) because you enter in correct alignment.
I would say about 75% of all diseases.
25% is because of genetic and natural factors (we need purity in existence, exercise etc)
Very complex situation. The body is affected by many types of things; material karma (heredity) soul karma (what the soul coming in has) and external factors (diet, everything else). The more problems in each area, the poorer the health.
Certain diseases cannot be cured and that's why we need material science to proceed. Indirectly, as people, scientists and so on, raise Serpents, they will have the insight into the material realm to solve these questions. But a LOT can be solved by the Serpent.
In many places of the planet, many people have bad health, not because of their souls or anything, but merely due to environmental issues.
You can be risen or whatever, but you can still die if you consume impurity and deadly things all the time, the environment plays a large role.
However, your overall health and vitality, might be on a very higher level compared to most others, one is still vulnerable to bullets or bad diet for example. But the chances of having a worthless diet are far less with wisdom.
In the long-term, yes, when one meditates, a lot of these genes can shut off, or one can make sound choices in life which do not trigger them.
Correct, that is man's error, not the error of their souls or anything. 100% material.
Many diseases, are 100% material, not emotional or spiritual.
A large majority of bad genes activate due to poor diet or excessive, deadly stress.
Let's just say if one keeps these things in check, they will most likely have a far higher health than anyone else.
Health is a very complex topic, but be aware, sometimes, 100% of something is material.
The SATANAMA is based upon sounds of creation, it's not even a "language".
Based on my research which could have been far more elaborate (I am not a physician) I find out that any "strict" dietary norm is false.
Hippocrates explains that each person, has to have a different diet.
Along the lines, we can follow healthy choices (overall to the species) but some systems and some people have to find it out their own way. This knowledge exist in the Hippocratic knowledge but I am not yet sufficiently attained on this to talk at an 100% about the subject.
I am therefore not qualified and don't want to now provide falsehood in my answers.
From what I see, overall, the element construction of a soul, also helps a lot with the diet.
For example: high fire can eat more meat,but if you are water or earth predominant, you should avoid heavy foods.
When also people were sick, the Hippocratics healed them with meditation + diet.
And they also had elaborate rituals that involved the sea water, which they believed had miraculous effects. Based on what people wrote, they did certain things, went into the sea, and they had dramatic acceleration in their healing processes.
All Ancients agree that sea-water and taking swims, is of excessive importance to health.
Even in the pool it's better than nothing.
Yes, baptism primarily was based on the term of being washed away from negative impurities physically and spiritually. It's originally Pagan.
The first layer of the Ancient mysteries was literally a baptism.
Psycholgocially when you want to "clear your mind" you have a shower.
You can have major issues, you take a shower, you come out, it all feels different, at least one bit after the shower.
Water is essentially pure life-form.
Water is very sacred. Unlike earth, air or fire (these cannot clear us out) only water can.
It's very similar, that's why babies are considered pure until the time they are born, they are literally in the water of life.
When one is born, they come out of the water (another symbolism of the Mysteries I wrote about earlier).
You cannot step into a fire and do this, you fry.
That's why Fire is considered the spiritual element, water is life friendly, fire is not life friendly, it's life friendly in very miniscule amounts and when it warms water.
A very easy way to invoke Earth is to go out in a forest, barefoot, and imagine you are inhaling the earth itself.
FEEL.
Even imagining soil can do it, but focus on the feeling. How does the earth feel?
Much love and thank you all may the Gods bless you forever.
