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Physical immortality in one life, possible??

Blackdragon666 said:
truth.seeker1 said:
serpentwalker666 said:
The magnum opus is within reach of all satanists who are dedicated and consistent in their advancement. While the time it takes can vary, its it's very important you regain the motivation for advancing spiritually towards that goal.

Kind thank you to everyone who cheered me up in this thread, but I'm gonna be honest that the sheer scope of the time required to reach immortality is daunting enough to make me want to ditch it all.

In a recent thread HP Cobra just mentioned that even very advanced meditators in ages past, who lived up to even nearly a thousand years due to prolonged lifespans, did not achieve Magnum Opus. If anything, that alone takes out all the wind away from my sails.
Spiritual advancement doesn't happen in stages and is more of a linear thing. Every step of the way has its own benefits. How about dealing with karmic issues from cleaning the soul and being free from the malefic influences of the planets and therefore free to make your own destiny? You don't need a risen kundalini for that.

Being in control of your mind from void meditation? Being able to attract what you want from working with energy? Then a bit up ahead there's the expanded consciousness, wisdom and power that comes with a risen serpent. Also the prolonged life.

There's so many benefits to gain at whatever level you are at. This is why some of these people were not obsessed with achieving the Magnum Opus. Life was already very good and there was no rush to get there. This is also why some Egyptian Pharaohs died yet they had the knowledge for the MO. Personal choice.

Yes, I know there are other perks to be had from meditating, however without being able to complete the Magnum Opus and achieve immortality, litteraly EVERYTHING you aquire in this life in terms of power, knowledge and skills is lost in the process of reincarnation.

Now with a certain chance that if you end up picking up meditating in the next life, with enough practice you may regain 10-20% of what you had aquired in the past life after again doing a ton of spiritual work on yourself, but that is a strong IF.

Immortality in my perspective is the grounding stone of any individual being, that through it is capable to finally achieve continuity in one's life, and is finally able to engage in a steady work of evolving one's self, without constantly having to hit the "reset" button every 70 years or so.
 
One part of the magnum opus is making the soul "immortal", maybe that is a more achievable goal for most people, if you reach that point we can stay assured that our next life will be pretty good.
 
truth.seeker1 said:
Blackdragon666 said:
truth.seeker1 said:
Kind thank you to everyone who cheered me up in this thread, but I'm gonna be honest that the sheer scope of the time required to reach immortality is daunting enough to make me want to ditch it all.

In a recent thread HP Cobra just mentioned that even very advanced meditators in ages past, who lived up to even nearly a thousand years due to prolonged lifespans, did not achieve Magnum Opus. If anything, that alone takes out all the wind away from my sails.
Spiritual advancement doesn't happen in stages and is more of a linear thing. Every step of the way has its own benefits. How about dealing with karmic issues from cleaning the soul and being free from the malefic influences of the planets and therefore free to make your own destiny? You don't need a risen kundalini for that.

Being in control of your mind from void meditation? Being able to attract what you want from working with energy? Then a bit up ahead there's the expanded consciousness, wisdom and power that comes with a risen serpent. Also the prolonged life.

There's so many benefits to gain at whatever level you are at. This is why some of these people were not obsessed with achieving the Magnum Opus. Life was already very good and there was no rush to get there. This is also why some Egyptian Pharaohs died yet they had the knowledge for the MO. Personal choice.

Yes, I know there are other perks to be had from meditating, however without being able to complete the Magnum Opus and achieve immortality, litteraly EVERYTHING you aquire in this life in terms of power, knowledge and skills is lost in the process of reincarnation.

Now with a certain chance that if you end up picking up meditating in the next life, with enough practice you may regain 10-20% of what you had aquired in the past life after again doing a ton of spiritual work on yourself, but that is a strong IF.

Immortality in my perspective is the grounding stone of any individual being, that through it is capable to finally achieve continuity in one's life, and is finally able to engage in a steady work of evolving one's self, without constantly having to hit the "reset" button every 70 years or so.
So what? Are you going to sit and cry? Because you can't take your house and car with you? And its not like you need to reincarnate more than one time, in this life you reach the second level of the Magnum Opus and in the next the last level, I don't know enough but when I asked HP he said if you start young then you may be able to complete the MO in this life. Its not that impossible but we are all different. You will not start from zero in the next life because you will have your memories and spiritual power from this life.
 
truth.seeker1 said:
Blackdragon666 said:
truth.seeker1 said:
Kind thank you to everyone who cheered me up in this thread, but I'm gonna be honest that the sheer scope of the time required to reach immortality is daunting enough to make me want to ditch it all.

In a recent thread HP Cobra just mentioned that even very advanced meditators in ages past, who lived up to even nearly a thousand years due to prolonged lifespans, did not achieve Magnum Opus. If anything, that alone takes out all the wind away from my sails.
Spiritual advancement doesn't happen in stages and is more of a linear thing. Every step of the way has its own benefits. How about dealing with karmic issues from cleaning the soul and being free from the malefic influences of the planets and therefore free to make your own destiny? You don't need a risen kundalini for that.

Being in control of your mind from void meditation? Being able to attract what you want from working with energy? Then a bit up ahead there's the expanded consciousness, wisdom and power that comes with a risen serpent. Also the prolonged life.

There's so many benefits to gain at whatever level you are at. This is why some of these people were not obsessed with achieving the Magnum Opus. Life was already very good and there was no rush to get there. This is also why some Egyptian Pharaohs died yet they had the knowledge for the MO. Personal choice.

Yes, I know there are other perks to be had from meditating, however without being able to complete the Magnum Opus and achieve immortality, litteraly EVERYTHING you aquire in this life in terms of power, knowledge and skills is lost in the process of reincarnation.

Now with a certain chance that if you end up picking up meditating in the next life, with enough practice you may regain 10-20% of what you had aquired in the past life after again doing a ton of spiritual work on yourself, but that is a strong IF.

Immortality in my perspective is the grounding stone of any individual being, that through it is capable to finally achieve continuity in one's life, and is finally able to engage in a steady work of evolving one's self, without constantly having to hit the "reset" button every 70 years or so.
It is possible to reincarnate with past life memories and experiences fully intact or to restore them in the present lifetime.

In any case, if you are that serious about the Magnum Opus, you might as well make your life revolve around advancing spiritually.
 
Young Faith said:
Blackdragon666 said:
Young Faith said:
A little fun fact: I've seen how you often motivate people this way. I was sure that one day exactly you would have called me out on me complaining and not doing anything. I was just wondering when it would have happened.
This is not to antagonize you, you are doing well by doing this and damn, you're absolutely right. I keep telling to myself these same things you just told me. I really don't know why I'm not following even my own advices.
Something is wrong with me and with how I live and think. I know how to heal from this but still don't do it. I just waste time. AND I KNOW IT. I HATE THIS. WHY AM I NOT DOING ANYTHING RIGHT NOW?
Only Ymir knows.
Jokes apart, I don't really don't know what to tell you, I should say "thank you", but I would sound like a broken record. For so long I've been thanking wonderful SS brothers and sisters here, who gave me very good advice as you, and I did not follow any of it in any meaningful manner.
Set up a schedule. Makes following plans way easier. Also is it that you lack drive or consistency?

I think I do lack consistency. In a lot of fields, not only spirituality.

You can do a working with Nauthiz as advised. Wait for the moon to enter Capricorn.
 
Now with a certain chance that if you end up picking up meditating in the next life, with enough practice you may regain 10-20% of what you had aquired in the past life after again doing a ton of spiritual work on yourself, but that is a strong IF.

It's not diminishing returns. Any spiritual progress you've made in this life will be carried over and advancing will actually be easier. If it were diminishing returns like you said then The Gods would have never become Gods!
 
truth.seeker1 said:
Yes, I know there are other perks to be had from meditating, however without being able to complete the Magnum Opus and achieve immortality, litteraly EVERYTHING you aquire in this life in terms of power, knowledge and skills is lost in the process of reincarnation.

Now with a certain chance that if you end up picking up meditating in the next life, with enough practice you may regain 10-20% of what you had aquired in the past life after again doing a ton of spiritual work on yourself, but that is a strong IF.

Immortality in my perspective is the grounding stone of any individual being, that through it is capable to finally achieve continuity in one's life, and is finally able to engage in a steady work of evolving one's self, without constantly having to hit the "reset" button every 70 years or so.

That is not the case. There is no reset button or everything being lost. You carry the seeds of karma with you for each life. Karma is accumulate work. It is not lost through reincarnation. Either you burn it to get rid of it or you let it manifest, grow into a tree. Not remembering things is different than losing things. Everything is still there when you reincarnate, just buried in the unconscious part of the soul.

You also gain half of your mother's karma and half of your father's karma. So you don't get reincarnated only with your karma. These 3 parts make up your prenatal karma, and you will start accumulating postnatal karma as soon as you are born. Getting karma from your family is also the reason why eugenics is important. The secret to cultivating particular skills and knowledge is in your bloodline working on refining it generation after generation. This is why coming from a highly spiritual family will make you more likely to start meditating earlier and attuning yourself to your soul, so memories and past life gifts are brought back to the surface. It will also bless you with having their gifts passed on to you. Physical, mental, spiritual gifts, etc. That's why someone coming from a family of athletes will exceed at athletics, should they keep going with the family tradition.

The enemy practices eugenics too. Eugenics is such a beautiful thing and sheds more understanding on the caste/class system that existed in all pre-xtard civilisations. Contrary to what the enemy teaches in trying to attack it, there was social mobility. The thing is that mobility was unlikely, because you would've had to learn new skills from zero to do what the other classes do. It is perfectly normal to follow in the footsteps of your parents when choosing your trade, especially if your family has consolidated a particular profession in their bloodline with all the karmic blessings that come from it. It is perfectly normal for your parents to have expectations for you to follow in their footsteps. That's how you work with nature to maximise benefits and pave the path. Everything else is nullifying the efforts of your family and ancestors, through the confusion generated by the enemy.

The reverse is also true. If you do nothing or cannot make up your mind about the skills and path to take, always changing between things, you will have truly wasted your efforts and, when you are reincarnated, you will notice the only thing you will have boosted will be inertia/idleness/laziness in the first case, and indecisiveness in the second case. The problem will compound if you reincarnate in a bloodlines where people have been either of those throughout generations, because those traits will be amplified and ruin your life if you don't overcome them, fixating you in a negative, descending spiral.

Do not let the enemy attack you psychologically into thinking that it is pointless to meditate if, for whatever reason, you cannot become immortal in this life. It cannot be further from the truth. Focus on your talents and hone them. A hint on what you developed in your past life can be acquired by studying your South Node. Its placement, its aspects to planets and fixed stars, etc. Knowing there is something in your chart that shows you that, should strengthen your conviction.

I wish you the best!
 
thebigcheesesixmillion said:
Karma is just conditioning of the personality. Of the reaction to things. And of the motivation and discipline.The human mind rewards you for doing something that makes you feel good.
If you smoke Crack and you feel good your soul will associate drug abuse with happiness on a base level.If you do a rape against someone your soul will start to connect violence against others with joy. If you lie to get what you want your body associates the feeling of guilt with satisfaction. Karma is cause and effect reactions that program the nature of your soul. The "Karma" that comes from your parents is genetic predisposition of a similar sort. Karma can also involve you doing the most disgusting things to win and you will be programmed to have the same decision making reaction to certain feelings in the future. If you're a big business ceo that profits and makes his life better by laying off loyal employees, or poisoning consumers for example. If all your life you express yourself or speak honestly and you are lonely and bullied constantly then you shut down, sometimes forever. If discipline and hard work makes you feel drained and angry to no avail, then you're likely to become lazy. There isn't really good or bad Karma just conditioning. You can change it in a snap, wake up one morning and make a choice.

Generally Karma happens whenever two major emotions are in conflict. And is probably decided by the dominant force. Karma is not some all deciding factor in your life, but it can pretty much guarantee how you will react to certain trials and difficult things. It's just about knowing yourself and thinking about what you're doing before you do it(doesn't always work out though)

You should study the library and the website better if you think that:
:arrow: You can change karma in a snap
:arrow: There is no good or bad karma

In particular, I suggest you read:
:arrow: the overcoming obstacles and freeing the soul page
:arrow: the sermons in the library that talk about karma
:arrow: the three types of karma in Vedic texts
 
thebigcheesesixmillion said:
Stormblood said:
thebigcheesesixmillion said:
Karma is just conditioning of the personality. Of the reaction to things. And of the motivation and discipline.The human mind rewards you for doing something that makes you feel good.
If you smoke Crack and you feel good your soul will associate drug abuse with happiness on a base level.If you do a rape against someone your soul will start to connect violence against others with joy. If you lie to get what you want your body associates the feeling of guilt with satisfaction. Karma is cause and effect reactions that program the nature of your soul. The "Karma" that comes from your parents is genetic predisposition of a similar sort. Karma can also involve you doing the most disgusting things to win and you will be programmed to have the same decision making reaction to certain feelings in the future. If you're a big business ceo that profits and makes his life better by laying off loyal employees, or poisoning consumers for example. If all your life you express yourself or speak honestly and you are lonely and bullied constantly then you shut down, sometimes forever. If discipline and hard work makes you feel drained and angry to no avail, then you're likely to become lazy. There isn't really good or bad Karma just conditioning. You can change it in a snap, wake up one morning and make a choice.

Generally Karma happens whenever two major emotions are in conflict. And is probably decided by the dominant force. Karma is not some all deciding factor in your life, but it can pretty much guarantee how you will react to certain trials and difficult things. It's just about knowing yourself and thinking about what you're doing before you do it(doesn't always work out though)

You should study the library and the website better if you think that:
:arrow: You can change karma in a snap
:arrow: There is no good or bad karma

In particular, I suggest you read:
:arrow: the overcoming obstacles and freeing the soul page
:arrow: the sermons in the library that talk about karma
:arrow: the three types of karma in Vedic texts

Good and bad are a point of view, I illustrated this perfectly.What might be good for you may be unethical. What might be bad and bring suffering can make you pure and tough as a person.

thank you Mr anime but I don't feel like reading it, I don't care. You should come up with some thoughts on your own, it's fun. If you want to argue my opinion I'd love to discuss with you. But if all you can do is point at a book.

All that was written a trillion years ago as far as I'm concerned. Have you seen star wars? It actually touches on this point perfectly. Getting caught up in the good and bad blinds you from the right and wrong. The most righteous can do ignorant acts. While the most vile and evil can do good and decent things.

If Some qualities of goodness are accidentally misdirected in a bad way. Noone would dare say that is good or bad. Reflecting on Experience and letting go of naivete is everything you need to make a conscious decision against one's own programming.

And so yes you can change karma in an instant if you really want to. Just wake up one day and make a choice. Free will is neat like that.

If you are looking for someone to start a fight with, better try someone else. I don't have time for you, especially as you need to get a grip on reality. Bye.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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