Neptune and Pluto Square? Earth?

[RED DAWN]

Does anyone have information regarding the Neptune and Pluto planetary squares? While I'm pretty sure the pluto square would be not good to use, likely resulting with great change and perhaps even death, perhaps it could be used on someones behalf as a chaotic destructive ritual? I'm mostly interested in the Neptune square, as I suspect it would enhance awareness (perhaps to the point of insanity) and maybe even psychic powers generally. I'm sure theres a reason these aren't given, just wondering out of curiosity.

Is there an Earth square?

 

[Siatris Ioholo]

The energies of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto are energies that are beyond the spectrum of the 7 chakras. This is why they are called 'transcendental'.

These planets have energies that are a little harder to control because they are on a much higher octave and working with their energies can bring results that may not have been intended.

Neptune deals with depression, addictions, delusions, gullibility and other negative traits, but it also has positive qualities. The problem is that many people currently have a low vibration and so Neptune's negative traits manifest.

The specific function of this planet is to cross boundaries, to merge the occult with the physical. Through this Neptunian function we glimpse other dimensions and levels of being, stepping into territory that is difficult to define. Neptune's realm is a diaphanous, endless sea made up of dreams, always flowing into various forms and then dissolving, changing shape from moment to moment.

In the Vedas, Neptune was associated with the god Varuna. Varuna, then, is the mantra for the planet Neptune, along with Jala ( Sanskrit for water ) and Laguz ( runic ).

Pluto represents the generative force that reproduces and creates new forms of life. It symbolises the evolution of the soul, the Nigredo stage and the experiences of various transformations, and in the process of the symbolic death involved here, more clarity, progress and a deeper capacity to live life to the full may result.

Pluto is related to physical and spiritual birth, death and resurrection. It symbolises the old patterns that drag us down and need to be eliminated for the benefit of our own evolution. It forces us to accept the darker, instinctive side of our being. However, if we don't want it, it finds a way to force us to do so.

In the Vedas, Pluto is associated with the god Yama, so Pluto's mantra is Yama and Eiws (runic).

 

[darkmonkey666]

The only thing I know is the supposed mantra for that square but I do not like it's energies. Supposedly there was a square in vedic texts somewhere (if that knowledge isn't totally destroyed) but I don't know or care what it is like. I think this is dangerous to do. You will regret it if you do.

Btw don't invoke these planets energies directly off the planet either. I did that with netpune in about 2011 a bunch of times not much happened other than me feeling sick for a bit. I forgot about it about 2015 and I am hanging out around druggies addicted to stuff
my life kind of in chaos. People taking advantage of me etc.

And I thought that kind of thing could never happen to me cause I was spiritual and stuff when I did this. It was like a slow decay in my thinking and that was after I forgot I even did this and did not continue.

Eventually this went away and I stopped all this stuff didn't have negative people in my life but imagine if I did a square.

 

[Elite]

I've used Pluto mantra for some goals. Actually, the results were tardy but good to see. I have asked to HPHC if it's good to use this mantra. He said he has no experience in it but if I don't feel negative energies, then I can keep using.

Actually, Hagl and Isa runes are more difficult to direct for me. Thaur is good too, I am using it a lot as well. But, it changes from person to person.

Pluto mantra is very powerful as far as I have experienced, but can bring good results under few repeats (like 10, 20). But again, it changes from person to person. I also used Saturn Square. Energies were not negative but there are a lot of people whose lives got ruined out of it.

I mean, it really varies.

I don't know any Pluto square but it is not advised even if it exists. Still, you can do 1 or 2 vibrations of its mantra and see the results. How it feels etc.

You can apply it to Saturn as well. If you can discern negative energy from positive one, maybe you can vibrate Shaniswara to Base Chakra. But you have to be able to discern. Otherwise, it can harm your soul and thus life latently.

Lastly, don't forget, always put your safety first. I think 1 or 2 vibrations would not end your life, but you should be aware of signals they give you.

 

[darkmonkey666]

I've used Pluto mantra for some goals. Actually, the results were tardy but good to see. I have asked to HPHC if it's good to use this mantra. He said he has no experience in it but if I don't feel negative energies, then I can keep using.

Actually, Hagl and Isa runes are more difficult to direct for me. Thaur is good too, I am using it a lot as well. But, it changes from person to person.

Pluto mantra is very powerful as far as I have experienced, but can bring good results under few repeats (like 10, 20). But again, it changes from person to person. I also used Saturn Square. Energies were not negative but there are a lot of people whose lives got ruined out of it.

I mean, it really varies.

I don't know any Pluto square but it is not advised even if it exists. Still, you can do 1 or 2 vibrations of its mantra and see the results. How it feels etc.

You can apply it to Saturn as well. If you can discern negative energy from positive one, maybe you can vibrate Shaniswara to Base Chakra. But you have to be able to discern. Otherwise, it can harm your soul and thus life latently.

Lastly, don't forget, always put your safety first. I think 1 or 2 vibrations would not end your life, but you should be aware of signals they give you.

What's the Pluto mantra? I am interested and yeah I plan to be careful. Pluto is one of the powerful planets in my chart and it's in Scorpio and 8th house so I probably can handle this.

 

[Siatris Ioholo]

I've used Pluto mantra for some goals. Actually, the results were tardy but good to see. I have asked to HPHC if it's good to use this mantra. He said he has no experience in it but if I don't feel negative energies, then I can keep using.

Actually, Hagl and Isa runes are more difficult to direct for me. Thaur is good too, I am using it a lot as well. But, it changes from person to person.

Pluto mantra is very powerful as far as I have experienced, but can bring good results under few repeats (like 10, 20). But again, it changes from person to person. I also used Saturn Square. Energies were not negative but there are a lot of people whose lives got ruined out of it.

I mean, it really varies.

I don't know any Pluto square but it is not advised even if it exists. Still, you can do 1 or 2 vibrations of its mantra and see the results. How it feels etc.

You can apply it to Saturn as well. If you can discern negative energy from positive one, maybe you can vibrate Shaniswara to Base Chakra. But you have to be able to discern. Otherwise, it can harm your soul and thus life latently.

Lastly, don't forget, always put your safety first. I think 1 or 2 vibrations would not end your life, but you should be aware of signals they give you.

What's the Pluto mantra? I am interested and yeah I plan to be careful. Pluto is one of the powerful planets in my chart and it's in Scorpio and 8th house so I probably can handle this.

Yama/Yamaya

 

[Elite]

What's the Pluto mantra? I am interested and yeah I plan to be careful. Pluto is one of the powerful planets in my chart and it's in Scorpio and 8th house so I probably can handle this.

Aum Yamaya Svaha.

Good luck.

 

[Quel_tizio]

I've used Pluto mantra for some goals. Actually, the results were tardy but good to see. I have asked to HPHC if it's good to use this mantra. He said he has no experience in it but if I don't feel negative energies, then I can keep using.

Actually, Hagl and Isa runes are more difficult to direct for me. Thaur is good too, I am using it a lot as well. But, it changes from person to person.

Pluto mantra is very powerful as far as I have experienced, but can bring good results under few repeats (like 10, 20). But again, it changes from person to person. I also used Saturn Square. Energies were not negative but there are a lot of people whose lives got ruined out of it.

I mean, it really varies.

I don't know any Pluto square but it is not advised even if it exists. Still, you can do 1 or 2 vibrations of its mantra and see the results. How it feels etc.

You can apply it to Saturn as well. If you can discern negative energy from positive one, maybe you can vibrate Shaniswara to Base Chakra. But you have to be able to discern. Otherwise, it can harm your soul and thus life latently.

Lastly, don't forget, always put your safety first. I think 1 or 2 vibrations would not end your life, but you should be aware of signals they give you.

What's the Pluto mantra? I am interested and yeah I plan to be careful. Pluto is one of the powerful planets in my chart and it's in Scorpio and 8th house so I probably can handle this.

Do You have any information about Pluto in 12th house?

 

[darkmonkey666]

I've used Pluto mantra for some goals. Actually, the results were tardy but good to see. I have asked to HPHC if it's good to use this mantra. He said he has no experience in it but if I don't feel negative energies, then I can keep using.

Actually, Hagl and Isa runes are more difficult to direct for me. Thaur is good too, I am using it a lot as well. But, it changes from person to person.

Pluto mantra is very powerful as far as I have experienced, but can bring good results under few repeats (like 10, 20). But again, it changes from person to person. I also used Saturn Square. Energies were not negative but there are a lot of people whose lives got ruined out of it.

I mean, it really varies.

I don't know any Pluto square but it is not advised even if it exists. Still, you can do 1 or 2 vibrations of its mantra and see the results. How it feels etc.

You can apply it to Saturn as well. If you can discern negative energy from positive one, maybe you can vibrate Shaniswara to Base Chakra. But you have to be able to discern. Otherwise, it can harm your soul and thus life latently.

Lastly, don't forget, always put your safety first. I think 1 or 2 vibrations would not end your life, but you should be aware of signals they give you.

What's the Pluto mantra? I am interested and yeah I plan to be careful. Pluto is one of the powerful planets in my chart and it's in Scorpio and 8th house so I probably can handle this.

Do You have any information about Pluto in 12th house?

This is the two entries on this (copy paste) from JOS astrology. It is not clear if your asking about transit or natal so I include both.

12th house
People who have Pluto in the twelfth are often intensely lonely. There is much psychic ability and spiritual talent. In some cases, they can be extremely private, and need their time alone. There can be powerful and even deadly enemies. Those with this placement are capable of deep meditation, intuitive understanding, and are frequently adepts at black magick. They are very telepathic by nature. Pluto in this house can be a protector, destroying enemies and preventing personal losses.

Pluto transiting through the twelfth house- This transit can either be for better or worse. At worst, powerful and deadly enemies can enter into one's life, long term incarceration and imprisonment, diseases that are long lasting and/or permanent, isolation. The person, at this time, may have an intense desire to be alone, or this can be forced upon one, through circumstances. There can be restriction and confinement, mentally or physically.

In sublimating this energy, meditation, metaphysical pursuits, psychic empowerment exercises and other forms of occult study application should be consistently worked on. This is a good time to develop intuitive powers and psychic energy.

Secrets at this time are of unusual importance. One may be involved in research, or some kind of secret activities.

My info on this transit: a person can feel kind of confined in some way or imprisoned for part of this transit at least. Also it doesn't end the ability to make friends or be social it makes it less of a priority. Person is more deep. This is a time where the theme is fixing things in the subconscious and healing from stuff often in progress oriented individuals. There may be some major change right before it happens that leads the person to change direction.

The negative is Pluto is extremes if the person is unwilling to face anything they will block out most of reality in some cases at least at first.

Meditation is good to focus on during this time.

 

[Quel_tizio]

What's the Pluto mantra? I am interested and yeah I plan to be careful. Pluto is one of the powerful planets in my chart and it's in Scorpio and 8th house so I probably can handle this.

Do You have any information about Pluto in 12th house?

This is the two entries on this (copy paste) from JOS astrology. It is not clear if your asking about transit or natal so I include both.

12th house
People who have Pluto in the twelfth are often intensely lonely. There is much psychic ability and spiritual talent. In some cases, they can be extremely private, and need their time alone. There can be powerful and even deadly enemies. Those with this placement are capable of deep meditation, intuitive understanding, and are frequently adepts at black magick. They are very telepathic by nature. Pluto in this house can be a protector, destroying enemies and preventing personal losses.

Pluto transiting through the twelfth house- This transit can either be for better or worse. At worst, powerful and deadly enemies can enter into one's life, long term incarceration and imprisonment, diseases that are long lasting and/or permanent, isolation. The person, at this time, may have an intense desire to be alone, or this can be forced upon one, through circumstances. There can be restriction and confinement, mentally or physically.

In sublimating this energy, meditation, metaphysical pursuits, psychic empowerment exercises and other forms of occult study application should be consistently worked on. This is a good time to develop intuitive powers and psychic energy.

Secrets at this time are of unusual importance. One may be involved in research, or some kind of secret activities.

My info on this transit: a person can feel kind of confined in some way or imprisoned for part of this transit at least. Also it doesn't end the ability to make friends or be social it makes it less of a priority. Person is more deep. This is a time where the theme is fixing things in the subconscious and healing from stuff often in progress oriented individuals. There may be some major change right before it happens that leads the person to change direction.

The negative is Pluto is extremes if the person is unwilling to face anything they will block out most of reality in some cases at least at first.

Meditation is good to focus on during this time.

I was asking if you have more information to add to the one of JOS, and yes, about natal Pluto.

 

[Demonic]

Pluto transiting through the twelfth house- This transit can either be for better or worse. At worst, powerful and deadly enemies can enter into one's life, long term incarceration and imprisonment, diseases that are long lasting and/or permanent, isolation. The person, at this time, may have an intense desire to be alone, or this can be forced upon one, through circumstances. There can be restriction and confinement, mentally or physically......

Can you please reply me with the link containing planets transiting info. I searched jos astrology i wasnt able to find it.

 

[darkmonkey666]

Pluto transiting through the twelfth house- This transit can either be for better or worse. At worst, powerful and deadly enemies can enter into one's life, long term incarceration and imprisonment, diseases that are long lasting and/or permanent, isolation. The person, at this time, may have an intense desire to be alone, or this can be forced upon one, through circumstances. There can be restriction and confinement, mentally or physically......

Can you please reply me with the link containing planets transiting info. I searched jos astrology i wasnt able to find it.

https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Trpluto.html

Also if you like you can do a general search online for transits and check various websites kind of come up with an idea of what people have experienced in general with it or it's general meaning. I find this helpful to combine with what's on the JOS site.

 

[Masked LA]

I've used Pluto mantra for some goals. Actually, the results were tardy but good to see. I have asked to HPHC if it's good to use this mantra. He said he has no experience in it but if I don't feel negative energies, then I can keep using.

Actually, Hagl and Isa runes are more difficult to direct for me. Thaur is good too, I am using it a lot as well. But, it changes from person to person.

Pluto mantra is very powerful as far as I have experienced, but can bring good results under few repeats (like 10, 20). But again, it changes from person to person. I also used Saturn Square. Energies were not negative but there are a lot of people whose lives got ruined out of it.

I mean, it really varies.

I don't know any Pluto square but it is not advised even if it exists. Still, you can do 1 or 2 vibrations of its mantra and see the results. How it feels etc.

You can apply it to Saturn as well. If you can discern negative energy from positive one, maybe you can vibrate Shaniswara to Base Chakra. But you have to be able to discern. Otherwise, it can harm your soul and thus life latently.

Lastly, don't forget, always put your safety first. I think 1 or 2 vibrations would not end your life, but you should be aware of signals they give you.

What's the Pluto mantra? I am interested and yeah I plan to be careful. Pluto is one of the powerful planets in my chart and it's in Scorpio and 8th house so I probably can handle this.

You got pluto in the 8th house? What are you a hitman?

 

[Satnam666]

I've used Pluto mantra for some goals. Actually, the results were tardy but good to see. I have asked to HPHC if it's good to use this mantra. He said he has no experience in it but if I don't feel negative energies, then I can keep using.

Actually, Hagl and Isa runes are more difficult to direct for me. Thaur is good too, I am using it a lot as well. But, it changes from person to person.

Pluto mantra is very powerful as far as I have experienced, but can bring good results under few repeats (like 10, 20). But again, it changes from person to person. I also used Saturn Square. Energies were not negative but there are a lot of people whose lives got ruined out of it.

I mean, it really varies.

I don't know any Pluto square but it is not advised even if it exists. Still, you can do 1 or 2 vibrations of its mantra and see the results. How it feels etc.

You can apply it to Saturn as well. If you can discern negative energy from positive one, maybe you can vibrate Shaniswara to Base Chakra. But you have to be able to discern. Otherwise, it can harm your soul and thus life latently.

Lastly, don't forget, always put your safety first. I think 1 or 2 vibrations would not end your life, but you should be aware of signals they give you.

What's the Pluto mantra? I am interested and yeah I plan to be careful. Pluto is one of the powerful planets in my chart and it's in Scorpio and 8th house so I probably can handle this.

I heard munka works well If you have a bad planetary placement in charts,as for Pluto I'm wondering if it's cause of it's size, some have been able to use its mantra without problems.

 

[Demonic]

https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Trpluto.html

Also if you like you can do a general search online for transits and check various websites kind of come up with an idea of what people have experienced in general with it or it's general meaning. I find this helpful to combine with what's on the JOS site.........

Thanks a lot for advice. Recently started studying astrology. Able to read most of my natal chart. I am writing down my questions to which i m not able to find answers to or i m doubtful about. I guess i will tag you here and ask you here when i m done with writing down most of them in my notebook. I would really appreciate if you can take your time out to answer them. <3

 

[darkmonkey666]

https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Trpluto.html

Also if you like you can do a general search online for transits and check various websites kind of come up with an idea of what people have experienced in general with it or it's general meaning. I find this helpful to combine with what's on the JOS site.........

Thanks a lot for advice. Recently started studying astrology. Able to read most of my natal chart. I am writing down my questions to which i m not able to find answers to or i m doubtful about. I guess i will tag you here and ask you here when i m done with writing down most of them in my notebook. I would really appreciate if you can take your time out to answer them. <3

Ok sure I will come back and answer them when you post it.

 

[Gearshift]

A few years ago around '18-'19 before coof.

We had some people talk about exocosmic or transcendental squares i.e. the missing squares of Pluto, Neptune, and Uranus.

The problem is these energies are the higher octave in a bad way will manifest. For example even though we have sanskrit vibrations and they can be reasonable like what was said about 1-2 vibrations and test it out. The actual squares whether we know or can calculate or whatever that technology WILL destroy you. Some used Plutonic short Yamaya: Aum Yamaya Svaha/Nama for certain things some people said with just a handful I overcame some negativity or got pushed through. Some people liked the Plutonic aspect I don't know if it's because most members in our community are Pluto in Scorpio people and have that dark touch to their soul.

But all I know is a few said positive a sprinkle of negativity but in a constructive manner. There was one I believe that had a negative push moment and it surprised them. One other was using it as an anti-karma tool kinda like a nuclear mantra to surpass or push over a karma effect. But everyone said keep it low and pay attention be sure to use the proper affirmation and direct as well as possible.

Anyways...

...All I know is even Saturn is more positive and more appropriate than those three octave squares. IF anything if anyone is doing transcendental technologies stick with the inner planets and the lower lesser octaves.

I know a person calculated neptune/uranus/pluto but whether correct or incorrect. Simply the technology is not there and NO one should be messing with that technology for a long time.

I think with Neptune people would be better off not just using the inner planet counter-part but on top of that like Azazel. He is the "Opener" and I believe he would teach the aspects of Neptune in his way before relying on the planet itself. For example Azazel being a musical God, music can sublimate Neptune. So the Gods that deal with certain planetary would probably state stick to Neptune Rune, stick to inner planet workings, and work with Azazel to be able to move unto the exocosmic in the far future.

Either way all simply know is these aspects are not to be messed with. Some can get away and do stuff but some others would end up destroyed. If Saturn produces a morose constricted long arduous life with a limited existence. Who knows what effects amping up the exo would do. Except Pluto people ignored Uranus and Neptune for good reason.

I think the only other Pluto is Yaum. I'm sure it's fine it's not a planetary mantra.

In the end it's better not to mess with this technology it's okay to discuss it but it's like antidote technology for baneful magick poisons. For example using necronomicon mantras to blast someone down and then vibrate the counter-mantra into your soul to take the antidote along with cleaning and protecting.

We simply do not posses these technologies to accomplish such thing for now.