bluedragon666 said:
Can you disprove that a teapot is revolving around Jupiter? No? Then that must mean there really is a teapot revolving around Jupiter!
I have not heard of that before, but what I have heard (rather, read) is like an evolution of that analogy. On youtube and in comments, people claiming that they have a big pink unicorn under their beds - "prove that I don't".
Such xians also like to cherry-pick evidence for their arguments, while completely ignoring evidence contradicting those arguments.
One of those being that they either don't know about or choose to ignore where "god"
admits creating evil. In a comment section once, I said this and a christian said that they would be willing to look-up the verse... Yes... and then they didn't return/reply. Other christians there ignored that and just regurgitated other scriptures about how lovely and holy and righteous jewsus is. Yeah, I know about those verses and things. They are irrelevant. The point, which is relevant, is that "god" admits - as in, says it does itself very deliberately and consciously by decision and choice - creating evil...
You have made other points which have been known before. I actually forgot some of them.
Similarly to quoting irrelevant scriptures, "the old testament doesn't matter anymore". OK, well, then, "god" did not create the entire Universe in 6 days, then. Based on nonsense "arguing", because "god" did not, then that means the Universe existed already forever! (To use the fallacy deliberately and sarcastically as described above.) Another one to tack onto the OT-versus-NT is that in the NT, "god" says that it is "the same yesterday, today and forever" and numerous other scriptures, both O and N state the same things - jewsus is unchanging, etc., so all of the evil, deaths, tortures, etc., in the OT still count, because it is the same and unchanging forever. Furthermore, the jew who convinced "god" to not destroy a village if it could find 1 decent person in it. If "god" is so wrathful and vengeful (read: such a psychopathic, careless and uncaring bully), then it would have just smote that jew and smote the village and it is the same all the time and does not change, plus its ways are above our ways, so a meaningless little jew would not be able to convince it otherwise.
Blah, blah, blah. You can go through all of these things, but as I said - it really is pointless for the hardcore christians; it might or might not be too late for your friend. For a lot of individuals, they need to have the last word, so that they can feel good about themselves, and they also like to argue for the sake of arguing, instead of coming to conclusions and answers. Simmilar to the circular-reasoning, they also go round in circles with "as I said", ignoring what you said.
Regarding the woman who "would have married him" if only he were xian, nobody who truly loves him should expect him to share all the same beliefs as her.
Seeing as christians like to reference things in "their own"... "answers"... Erasure had a good question in "A LIttle Respect" -
What religion or reason
could drive a man to forsake his lover?
It might say "man" but "the" buybull speaks to men and not to women, but it still applies to women, of course. I was at an event once and a new christian saw a firefighter and she said she would enjoy his pump. Her female friend/fellow told her not to lust like that, so she replied that it specifies men...which the fellow replied back that it still counts.
Shrouded said:
Thank you! I used to watch his videos ages ago. That little baby (Gentile?) cherub angel character thing actually was not stupid. I forgot who the youtuber was.
I might recommend a coronavirus-mask-wearing "deities" video first!
https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=B0Ryo6HcOys
There are also some videos by a panel of 2 people, where either one or both of them are ex-christians and people ring-in to the programme and try and talk jewsus, where this panel shoots them down every time. I forgot the name of that, as well, but if you can find it, then that is also some good stuff to watch.