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Beelzebub_666 said:
Was the moon landing a hoax ?
I would be inclined to say "yes".
 
I think it was real. But it is very interesting that the recordings of it do not exist anymore. While it was happening it was broadcast live on TV all over the world. But now NASA says that they "lost" the tapes and can't find them anywhere.

One of the most important events in all world history, and the video of it was recorded, and then you lose the recording? That sounds like bullshit.
 
They didn't lose all the tapes, they lost some of the footage. How and why I do not know.

All of the skeptics' "arguments" so far have been disproved, which wasn't hard to do in the first place when they all have been based on pure ignorance.

"Why are there no stars in the sky, why is the flag moving, why are shadows like that, Van Allen belts...and many others have explanations that are rooted in reality"

But any reasonable explanation is being outright dismissed, moon truthers remind me a lot of flat earth lunatics. They do not care about what you have to say and how reasonable it is. They have their conviction and nothing is gonna change that.
 
Beelzebub_666 said:
Was the moon landing a hoax ?
As far as I read, there are indeed several of signs that would indicate the moon landing never took place, and if staged, the goal of this stage was most likely to show the planet that United States is more advanced and powerful than Soviet Union.

As for the signs:
- NASA claimed they made tens of thousands of footages and tapes of the moon and brought to earth 21 kilograms of moon rocks in that particular moon landing. Now they claim they lost everything.

- How the astronauts passed the Van Allen radiation belt
The person (source) I was watching about this said that Trump once told NASA when he became president that by his second mandate US has to go to the moon again. NASA would have told him that is not possible and gave as excuse the impossibility to pass the Van Allen belts. When Trump asked them how did they pass them first time, it is said that the journalists were asked to leave the room. This can mean a lot of things though.

- Why the American flag was waving in that environment with non-existent winds or atmosphere

- It is generally said that the system that sent the module to the moon was a lot weaker or less performant than most smartphones today and people are wondering how was that system able to successfuly launch and land on the moon the module used

This is an interesting video about the moon landing which questions the official story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpPMoIv1lxI

I don't have an opinion whether the moon landing happened or not because I am not informed enough but I am definitely looking up to research this in the future
 
The Alchemist7 said:
Beelzebub_666 said:
Was the moon landing a hoax ?
As far as I read, there are indeed several of signs that would indicate the moon landing never took place, and if staged, the goal of this stage was most likely to show the planet that United States is more advanced and powerful than Soviet Union.

As for the signs:
- NASA claimed they made tens of thousands of footages and tapes of the moon and brought to earth 21 kilograms of moon rocks in that particular moon landing. Now they claim they lost everything.

- How the astronauts passed the Van Allen radiation belt
The person (source) I was watching about this said that Trump once told NASA when he became president that by his second mandate US has to go to the moon again. NASA would have told him that is not possible and gave as excuse the impossibility to pass the Van Allen belts. When Trump asked them how did they pass them first time, it is said that the journalists were asked to leave the room. This can mean a lot of things though.

- Why the American flag was waving in that environment with non-existent winds or atmosphere

- It is generally said that the system that sent the module to the moon was a lot weaker or less performant than most smartphones today and people are wondering how was that system able to successfuly launch and land on the moon the module used

This is an interesting video about the moon landing which questions the official story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpPMoIv1lxI

I don't have an opinion whether the moon landing happened or not because I am not informed enough but I am definitely looking up to research this in the future

i wasn't going to post cause wasn't sure if it was true or not, but i saw something a while back that the soviets may have made it to space before the US, their was researchers who were working with radio signals an got a radio signal of screaming Russians , they may have made it to space, but something went wrong, anyway it was their theory,their was no way of proving it was, but was an interesting story,they were scanning around were the soviets were,why they would hide it is anyone's guess
 
I'm fairly confident that the moon landing did happen. I've read a lot of the "conspiracy" evidence, and it just doesn't hold up.

However, I agree it is suspicious how they "lost" the tapes. My personal suspicion is that the high-resolution video, or perhaps the telemetry, shows evidence of aliens, and that's what they wanted to cover it up. However, keep in mind that it has been over 50 years, and NASA was not experienced at data storage. Even Jewywood lost quite a few of their first movies. It is not that hard to believe that NASA honestly lost some of the tapes.

Either way, the conspiracy claims I've heard are pretty flimsy, like stars missing from photos or shadows being wrong, etc. The wikipedia page does a good job debunking them.

Also, what about the Russians? They undoubtedly had their top scientists scrutinizing every detail of the footage. If there was anything at all that showed the slightest hint of it being fake, don't you think the Russians would have jumped on it and plastered it all over the place? "AMERICA CHEATS AT SPACE RACE!" They would have loved nothing more than to disgrace America like that.

But I won't know for sure until either I get access to a huge laser to test if the retro-reflectors are actually there, or until I astral project there to see for myself.
 
I recall some alternative theories some have stated. That the reason for the Moon landing in the first place is, secretly, one of the parameters to investigate how far the Germans got during the 30s and 40s in the space race. Basically all the crazy shit Werner Von Braun and others told the Americans and Soviets about the aliens that assisted Germany.

I think in essence I gotta agree with one member who put it best. 1730s-1820s energy/grid society, with fancy 1950s-1960s-1970s some-1980s space era smartphones, high technology, and computers, all the while the society itself is still pretty much 1940s-1950s post-WW2 IF anything since the Renaissance and since WW1/WW2 it never ended people are still fighting the ebil, debil Nazis. Basically Nazis = A warning from history as the silly WW2 documentary commercial puts it. We are still fighting those pesky Russians as well who are also Nazis but not Nazis but Nazis anyways cause Russians are larping as Nazis and Nazis are still the ultimate threat to freedom. It was real and the battle shall continue because it's in our minds because muh feels 'n' sheit.

I also recall someone stating that the astronauts mentioned bald headed men(greys) were performing reconnaissance and reconnoiter on the space crew in one of the shadow areas trying to be all sneaky. I'm actually surprised we sent people up there without guns a M2 Carbine/side arm or M16/side arm would have sufficed. Humanity truly is suckered into believing peace like a hippy. Same for the Voyager it blatantly tells any aliens out there "Look at this stupid civilization peace 'n' sheit" LOL lets go and kick their asses new Earthican slaves FTW. At least with Hitler and his television broadcasts he shows might and makes other civilizations go even if we can destroy them like nothing they'll still put up a fight.

Personally I don't view going to the Moon much less Mars as anything special. For Mars HP.Cobra did mention if we can colonize it to a relatively reasonable degree considering our status and put people there. It may alleviate a lot of tensions with food and issues resorting to overpopulation even if 8 or so billion doesn't seem all that extreme.

I just hope it doesn't produce a Gundam situation whereby Mars wishes to break off from Earth's dominion and manage it's own self away from the Homeworld possibly inciting a inter-Solar System war. Albeit Humanity is so ass backwards to even so much as engage into war in outerspace with our vehicles i.e. mediums of space travel that I highly doubt anything would come of it. IF anything I can see many monkeys delving into suicide bombings or like what happens a lot, someone pulls out a gun and instigates mass shootings with people doing space travel or instigate false/open flag attacks.

Anyways I just don't see space travel anything special. Maybe if we had UFO technology and our civilization is being trained by the Gods on how to apply itself into the heavens I can see it making headway but not our craptacular civilization. If Humanity fucks shit up with NPCs and AI/SA/ML and other computing technologies I just don't see a techno-communistic or techno-sovietization civilization working out. But I CAN see some people resisting the Earth hence creating a Gundam situation.

Humanity is too fractured as a whole to really delve into such works.
 
Satnam666 said:
i wasn't going to post cause wasn't sure if it was true or not, but i saw something a while back that the soviets may have made it to space before the US, their was researchers who were working with radio signals an got a radio signal of screaming Russians , they may have made it to space, but something went wrong, anyway it was their theory,their was no way of proving it was, but was an interesting story,they were scanning around were the soviets were,why they would hide it is anyone's guess
Indeed according to existing information 10 years prior the US Landing, the Soviets managed to send a human outside Earth's atmosphere (Yuri Gagarin if I recall corectly). As far as I remember, he jumped out of the module (while connected to it through a cord) and floated a bit around it, after which he went back inside.

However, if the moon landing wouldn't have happened because of the Van Allen radiations and temperatures high enough to melt the module, then the same should be the case for the Soviet mission because the Van Allen radiations start inside the atmosphere with around a few thousand kilometers, also they whould have still had to go through temperatures of 1000-2000 degrees celsius. However as far as I know nobody ever tried to doubt the Soviet mission while there are so many people denying the US moon landing, which is weird. Why does the moon landing gets widely criticized while nobody ever questionned the Soviets sending a human outside the atmosphere. Is somewhat understandable that people from inside Soviet Union and then Russia could not have a say due to communism and mass media being in the hands of the communist state however there is no reaction from people outside Russia.
 
The Alchemist7 said:
Satnam666 said:
i wasn't going to post cause wasn't sure if it was true or not, but i saw something a while back that the soviets may have made it to space before the US, their was researchers who were working with radio signals an got a radio signal of screaming Russians , they may have made it to space, but something went wrong, anyway it was their theory,their was no way of proving it was, but was an interesting story,they were scanning around were the soviets were,why they would hide it is anyone's guess
Indeed according to existing information 10 years prior the US Landing, the Soviets managed to send a human outside Earth's atmosphere (Yuri Gagarin if I recall corectly). As far as I remember, he jumped out of the module (while connected to it through a cord) and floated a bit around it, after which he went back inside.

However, if the moon landing wouldn't have happened because of the Van Allen radiations and temperatures high enough to melt the module, then the same should be the case for the Soviet mission because the Van Allen radiations start inside the atmosphere with around a few thousand kilometers, also they whould have still had to go through temperatures of 1000-2000 degrees celsius. However as far as I know nobody ever tried to doubt the Soviet mission while there are so many people denying the US moon landing, which is weird. Why does the moon landing gets widely criticized while nobody ever questionned the Soviets sending a human outside the atmosphere. Is somewhat understandable that people from inside Soviet Union and then Russia could not have a say due to communism and mass media being in the hands of the communist state however there is no reaction from people outside Russia.

Would be scary if they made it to the van Allen belt an they died,then again their was screaming in russian in those radio signals, so who knows they probably made it to the belt an died,your right though it makes no sense why they would try an hide it,then again maybe the reptilian jews didn't want to make the goyims curious about Space (oy vey goyims nothinks to see here just rocks nothing else)nasa does photoshop alot of photos from planets,an maybe xianity has a role in it to,can't let Gentiles know that their was life on other planets before xianitys existed, or the brainless christards will reeeeeeeeeeee an be angry at jews,
 
FancyMancy said:
Beelzebub_666 said:
Was the moon landing a hoax ?
I would be inclined to say "yes".
...I say because of 1 of 2 videos I want to upload. One of them is a mockery, the other... well, it seems... interesting. Fake? Genuine? Something else that looks real, but genuinely not Moon work? I don't know. It's only a clip, so maybe it is actually not on the Moon at all, but it definitely looks like it is. I'll upload them both sooner or later; however, based on what I've read about one of the clips, it is actually fake, so it's not up to me to decide.

Soaring Eagle 666 [JG said:
" post_id=375978 time=1658262701 user_id=346]Also, what about the Russians? They undoubtedly had their top scientists scrutinizing every detail of the footage. If there was anything at all that showed the slightest hint of it being fake, don't you think the Russians would have jumped on it and plastered it all over the place? "AMERICA CHEATS AT SPACE RACE!" They would have loved nothing more than to disgrace America like that.
commjewnist Russia "versus" jewmerica? Publicly, the two oppose each other, but we are not welcome; we're not "allowed" to know what happens when the journalists and cameramen/women are told to leave and the doors slam shut.
 

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