Martial Art is Life

[Egon]

As a side note there is a current polemic debate about a Tai Chi master who was badly beaten by a MMA fighter. I've heard the theory that it could be CCP who organized it, calling a weaking master to be beaten and then use reverse psychology to pull Kung Fu practicioners into the MMA world so the party could make money off them. If the case was just that Kung Fu/Tai Chi is useless against modern M.A. then there would not be cases of Shaolin monks who do that super-human feats like resisting KO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGsjtweGhho

To the post...

The first martial art I practiced was Karate. This is a video a friend sent me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nHZvbOtFSM

In my opinion, modern Karate is a waste of time, unless you have no martial arts avaliable near where you live, so it can be an open door. The movements of Karate he's using for the fight (and in general Karate) are called Kata and they are for lone demonstration, Taekwondo absorbed the same from Karate (Poomsae) but IMO the focus on it won't help in your progress or in real life unless there is something else to add. The difference of Taekwondo is what it has of original, it's actual fighting techniques, how you mantain the base and the dynamics of fighting are better for deffense and counter attack. This is my personal thinking after practicing both styles.

I also practiced Kickboxing/Thaiboxing, and I recognize their efficiency. The one thing I don't like very much in martial arts like these, MMA etc., is because it's too much deffense sports and less martial art, I think there must be a balance or it's like you're just playing football or other materialistic stuff, or then being a new ager on the extreme opposite.

Some useful material

Here is a good kick guiding by Grandmaster Shin Chul Kang:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkqynXVif7k

Stretching exercises for kicks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnfe8IYqlgs

I lay emphasis on Jiu-Jitsu as well, Hitler also recommended its practice in the Main Kampf:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJQHfoGQlxI

An interesting art, Hapkido:
https://www.leasidemartialarts.com/hapkido-documentary-on-the-discovery-channel-featuring-kyung-mu-kwan-masters


Marial Art is Life!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKROCTGSd7Y

 

[Egon]

The highest (9th Dan) poomsae/pattern in Taekwondo is in the shape of a swastika (Ilyeo):

 

[JoS Forum Contributions]

Having talked with people who went to Japan to train in Karate they told me that western Karate is wrong. The Japanese taught it wrong on purpose to American troops during the occupation to make a living but they didn't give them the proper way of doing it. An example is the arm blocks are actual breaks based on catching the in coming strike. Something else that was taken out of Karate in general was proper foot work. The long wide stepping was put there to take the power out of the strikes. I took Karate for awhile when I was younger it is a mess. The basic strikes are still good.

The best traditional martial art I trained in was Silat.

Kung Fu was originally based on Chi energy. Some of the drills are based on channeling in Chi and directing it thought the main two fingers. The Dim Mak strikes were based on this. The adept strikes and then release chi volt into the median point like a human taser. I read an account of a Kung Fu master who worn dozen of matches against other masters in China in our own time. Without striking them. He projected his own Chi into them and caused them to just drop knocked out of energy. That is the mark of a high level master over there.

 

[Egon]

More stretching tips, how to train for splits, with English subtitles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMLxN30NECM

Fight Science Kick Test (Capoeira, Karate, Muaythai & Taekwondo):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw4EoWi5QSM

This is an interesting Ninjutsu channel with English subtitles oftenly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW6R-BqIyC8

 

[ss666]

The most important thing IMO for martial arts is the teacher, not the style. However, studying martial arts is duble edged.
While it can save your life in the right circumstance and you can learn important life lessons, training can also be mixed with waste of time:

- depending on your wits and the place you live, you might never need combat skills in all your life.
- almost all forms don't have spiritual training, and if they do it is not better than JoS meditations
- athletic physical benefits are not on the same level with other disciplines (eg. triathlon).
- there are lots of cases where experienced overconfident fighters were surprised by a knife or a gun or a broken bottle and lost their lives.
- there is no defense to being sucker punched
- almost all don't teach how to use weapons or use impracticable weapons(e.g swords,spears).
For example a 6 months person who learned how to use a slingshot could beat decades of experienced hand-to-hand fighter.
Slingshots being easy to use, easy to learn, easy to carry and pretty much legal, with a surprise factor!

 

[Egon]

I've heard similar claims of how people who don't practice any form of combat can kick ass of martial artists because this or that reason, because they feel that somehow practicing a style of combat makes you limited into combat rules or some nonsense.

However who does have more chance of winning in a street fight, the avarage assuming Joe or someone who had some physical preparation and notions of self defense? I don't see how practicing martial arts can be double edged or waste of time in any of the points made, also I assume the people who will read the thread probably meditate, so it will just add even more into it and make them advanced in both the physical and spiritual.

It's observable this person is focused, well trained and will not be caught by "sucker punches" easily: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwJb0zZiJ5w

...However, studying martial arts is duble edged.
... training can also be mixed with waste of time:

- depending on your wits and the place you live, you might never need combat skills in all your life.
So? We live in enemy-run world. Better be safe than sorry.

- almost all forms don't have spiritual training, and if they do it is not better than JoS meditations
Yes we have the best spiritual knowledge, however I don't see how this is an argument to not practice martial arts.

- athletic physical benefits are not on the same level with other disciplines (eg. triathlon).
They can be even better and less damaging for the body as in the cases of highly demanding sports like triathlon and basketball, that may harm one's health after a long time rather than improving it (eg. masters Helio Gracie and Kang Shin Chul).

- there are lots of cases where experienced overconfident fighters were surprised by a knife or a gun or a broken bottle and lost their lives.
This is an argument to not be overconfident, which does not have to do with training m.a. and overcoming physical limitations through it.

- there is no defense to being sucker punched
Well it does... But an excellent argument in favor of training a martial art. The avarage Joe have even less chance than the trained in defending and counter attacking, if I understood "sucker punched" correctly.

- almost all don't teach how to use weapons or use impracticable weapons(e.g swords,spears).
Because there are limitations in many areas concerning weapons, however even training with old weapons can help with improvisation where you cannot use fireguns, like in Ninjutsu or Kali Silat.

For example a 6 months person who learned how to use a slingshot could beat decades of experienced hand-to-hand fighter.
These hypothetical situations... Ok, the inverse could also be possible, and this does not makes m.a. a waste of time or "double edged", or makes the martial artist unable to use improvised weapons either.

 

[ss666]

Of course someone with no combat skills is at disadvantage, given that they have the same mental (creativity, protecting someone they love) and emotional state (confidence/courage), with similar level of equipment and number of opponents, and same type of terrain (elevation, light, space, ground friction)!

If you practice combat with a set of rules, unless you are a beginner (to not have patterns engraved in you) or a master (to be able to think outside the box) in that area you would probably stick with what you learned.
For example Royce Gracie defeated in UFC-1 a famous boxer at that time, who didn't think about doing anything other than sticking to his boxing.

So that means you need to train in large area of possibilities to cover multiple scenarios, so that you have a large set of patterns.

That requires the study of hand-to-hand combat + grappling + weapons training + defending against weapons without having them + weapon vs weapon fighting + defending against dogs + multiple skilled opponents. However, you also need to balance this and drop some of the scenarios. For example some military MA techniques, are only applicable in military fields!

Moreover you need mental and emotional training, to not freeze in a life threatening scenario. Also you need to have a plan on how to fight in different terrain types.
You also need to take into consideration how to tackle useful self defense passive tools like body-armour or motorcycle helmet.

While MA improve you body in many ways, I argue that since they don't have a plan on how to improve it, it won't be as effective as gymnastics for example. 1 hour of kicking and punching repeated on an extended period of time, will not make you body as strong, flexible and balanced as 1 hour of gymnastics repeated on a extended period of time. It's true that gymnastics/triathlon are demanding on the body, but that is the competition phase, you don't have to push your body beyond its limits every training session to squeeze that 1-2% benefit for that sport.

Sucker punch is a surprise attack, which can happen to anyone. For example you are on you way to work in a crowded place and someone that has a grudge on you, followed you and stabbed you from the back, no warnings before that.

The amount of time spend on preparing and maintaining what you learned to be prepared will be enormous. So unless your job requires skills like this, it is really impracticable for an average person to dedicate so much time to cover an ocean of possibilities.

I think it's better to put that time on RTRs and have confidence that the Gods or our GD will protect us when the situation goes out of our hand.

 

[Egon]

I concur with Marcus here, the best M.A. is the one you can practice with consistence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJOcfbDZdF8

The amount of time spend on preparing and maintaining what you learned to be prepared will be enormous.

This applies to anything someone may dedicate to, including one's mundane job. Yes when things go out of hand, if we can deffend ourselves and be independent that will be the best.

 

[NaziMan12]

One thing I learned from Egon's taekwondo video he has in the Main post here is that when you throw a kick or punch it should be in a spiral effect as this is the only way it can penetrate the body. I think it is personally true as it increased my confidence in my self defense.

 

[Roswitha]

Hey Egon, I watched some more of the videos he posted and what I noticed is that some of the things he says in the videos are against what he says in others.

Also to the public he appears pro everything. I don't know if it has to do with 'keeping up appearances' but it does seem to cause some sort of maze.
Also he encourages people to go to the gym work out and be strong, and he does have some good points in the videos though, but I think those were mostly taken before the youtube censorship period.

Anyway, I checked the website he posted on one of the videos also. Not much to say about that.

Basicly what I should say is, form your own opinion.

Plus yes he kind of rallied people to get strong so we can fight off those invaders may it end in civil war. Its not in every video, only after quite a few clicks I heard about that.

 

[SeerOfSS]

Haven't watched the videos yet but from others reply, I will. I enjoying seeing MA always new things to learn.

And thanks HP, I didn't know that before.
Little lesson in history lol.

I do know now that the military uses mostly just the points of fighting where will take the other person down fast or just kill him.

 

[Egon]

I know, I just agreed with that video in particular, half of the things Marcus/Golden says is christian BS.

Hey Egon, I watched some more of the videos he posted and what I noticed is that some of the things he says in the videos are against what he says in others.

 

[Roswitha]

I think I mentioned the older videos would be better, however, most informative videos were uploaded in the last 6 months to a year.

I must say what is said though is well said. Not like the super angry dude or anything. Its good.


When I clicked on them they were in the side being recommendations, which ended me up being confused about the timeline.

If I made any other mistakes, I apologize. It was not my intention to blaspheme a good person.

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

The benifit's of meditation should not be underestimated, especially when combined with martial training.

A while back I was sucker punches, right on my temple by a dude who even had a running start. Somehow, don't ask me exactly how this happened, but somehow I was unscathed and didn't even flinch, it didn't hurt and it felt like his fist just kind of bounced off. I barely wobbled at all, and it definitly was a solid hit, right on my temple.

I saw it comming from the corner of my eye, but couldn't react in time (it was night and the dude was a black man in a black coat, so it was quite hard to see him comming in the small alley way where I was surrounded by these 10 thugs).

I'm not a trained martial artist, but I do have some experience. In this situation I was surrounded by a group of 10 dudes, who decided to be extremely aggressive to me. 3 of them attempted to push me down, after they had surrounded me. In that moment I felt my energy rise up, like a defence mechanism, then this one dude sucker punched me in the right temple. It didn't do anything as I said, due to my energy rising up the way it did.

I pushed the other 3 dudes who attempted to push me down off of me, and suddenly they all backed off and ended the conflict, they became timid like nothing had happened.

In a direct fight I would have stood no chance I think, in a one against 10 situation, where I was already surrounded. On top of that some of them were drunk as well as they reeked of alchohol. Still the moment my energy rose up and I stood my ground, pushing those dudes away from me they backed off.

The way your aura can influence other people is not something to be underestimated. In that moment, even though physically I lack the strength to fight against that many attackers, I got extremely pissed off and vizualized myself killing all of them, right then and there, I projected my anger and killing intent at those thugs almost instinctively and well they backed off and walked away right in that moment.

I can imagine the effects of your aura are not insignificant when you also have a strong, trained physique and have martial arts training as well.

It can soften incomming blows, strengthen your own fist which makes you hit much harder, influence the mind and soul of attackers in such a way they would think better than to attack you, even though physically they might have you beat. It can drastically reduce damage from any attack you suffered too and enhance your survivability significantly, which only get's amplified if you actually have a strong and well trained physique.

 

[Roswitha]

It seems material arts like shaolin kung fu and the more spiritual material arts deal with chi.
But what doesn't seem to be said is anything about how to use it.

If you think about how your aura can affect anything when you're aware of it and have done some practice with it.
Basicly that would just be a minor thing.

I think that you have to work on moving this energy within you. Get rid of blocks so it can flow freely.
Now I have watched this video below. And at some point after a few minutes people go flying off and they mention that by adapting ones own energy to another and moving it around causes to do that.

When you would use your own energy on someone else, that can lead to complications. As you wouldn't breathe in dirty energy during some practice of aquiring energy.
Some people go to pagan circles and they raise their energy or attempt to. Some are good at it and they then overwhelm others and make them nauseated with just their own energy. Now the average pagan has never heard of aura cleaning or anything like that, so it might have to do with this.
But I wanted to point out that this might be the possible reason that one would rather adapt their own energy to put another off balance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT2ZRUR-B0g

There is also another video I saw that was about healing with energy and the person said that male and female energies were united and that was used to heal others. Male below and female above. Which if one takes what one knows from the website turns that this might be the chakras that theyre talking about.

Also I will have to rewatch but more or less it was also said that mastering the female energies or the balance of male and female aka yin/yang has to do with some things one could do.
Now I have had spoken with someone in the past about meditation and stuff and he said that by separating the male and female energies inside the body he could ... like grow his finger nails real long in a short period of time ????? but when I asked about it years later the person wasn't much into meditation anymore.

But for those interested it might be worth trying to look up what you can do with this and what is true and what isn't.

 

[SoulSnipes]

One thing I learned from Egon's taekwondo video he has in the Main post here is that when you throw a kick or punch it should be in a spiral effect as this is the only way it can penetrate the body. I think it is personally true as it increased my confidence in my self defense.

Yeah this is a great way to manipulate the body of an attacker; the rotation, like a pinching effect adds to the wounds of the strikes.


My real question is how to execute rolls and dives on concrete. I've tried this on unpaved roads but the effect isn't as serious as the sidewalk I would guess. :roll:

 

[Egon]

For this purpose, you should look after Jiu-Jitsu instructions .

My real question is how to execute rolls and dives on concrete. I've tried this on unpaved roads but the effect isn't as serious as the sidewalk I would guess. :roll:

You can also buy that DVD: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Revolution...ing-Lessons-English-Spanish-TKD-/151766000118

Haven't watched the videos yet but from others reply, I will. I enjoying seeing MA always new things to learn.

And thanks HP, I didn't know that before.
Little lesson in history lol.

I do know now that the military uses mostly just the points of fighting where will take the other person down fast or just kill him.

 

[BoRn of fire]

Is there a way I could teach myself martial arts where and how do I begin to go about this ?

 

[Aquarius]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HVsDRjOHqU&app=desktop

 

[Egon]

You shoul have a tutor to check your progress and correct your blows, not necessarily physically present, but you must have sure you will practice with consistence and discipline. A partner for training is also of great help, you don't need to buy expensive material, just a pair of punch mitts and kick pads if you have a partner is enough, if you are alone, a punch bag or Bob. In general I'm not against paying a few bucks for a formal training, as you will have partners, a tutor, equipment, the local for training and a set up routine.

Is there a way I could teach myself martial arts where and how do I begin to go about this ?

 

[Aquarius]

Do you guys recommend boxing? I read everywhere that once you start sparring those blows at the head will damage your brain in time...

 

[Egon]

Do you guys recommend boxing? I read everywhere that once you start sparring those blows at the head will damage your brain in time...

The gloves do protect the hand at the cost of damaging the brain, which is stupid if you think in mma for example you can hit with bare feet and knees.

This video is about this issue in MMA but the same applies to boxing:
https://youtu.be/cVJbmVUtQqA?t=173

 

[Aquarius]

Do you guys recommend boxing? I read everywhere that once you start sparring those blows at the head will damage your brain in time...

The gloves do protect the hand at the cost of damaging the brain, which is stupid if you think in mma for example you can hit with bare feet and knees.

This video is about this issue in MMA but the same applies to boxing:
https://youtu.be/cVJbmVUtQqA?t=173

That makes a lot of sense. So maybe grappling martial arts like judo or jiu jitsu are better if you don't want problems?

 

[Egon]

Jiu-Jitsu over Judo. Taekwondo as well won't bring health problems. Also you will want ear protection for Jiu-Jitsu if you don't want your ears looking like cabbages.

That makes a lot of sense. So maybe grappling martial arts like judo or jiu jitsu are better if you don't want problems?

 

[Levimega]

I enjoy the karate exhale-left-punch. inhale. exhale-right-punch. inhale. I can really get a trance rythem going. but I mainly practice hard kicks on my boxing bag without controlling my energy. just because I think they are superior for self defense.

 

[Aquarius]

Jiu-Jitsu over Judo. Taekwondo as well won't bring health problems. Also you will want ear protection for Jiu-Jitsu if you don't want your ears looking like cabbages.

That makes a lot of sense. So maybe grappling martial arts like judo or jiu jitsu are better if you don't want problems?

I’d love to do taekwondo but unfortunately my hips don’t stretch and have some kind of problem which makes them blocked with limited mobility so doing middle splits is impossible at the moment though I will look into jou jitsu thanks for your help

 

[Stormblood]

Jiu-Jitsu over Judo. Taekwondo as well won't bring health problems. Also you will want ear protection for Jiu-Jitsu if you don't want your ears looking like cabbages.

That makes a lot of sense. So maybe grappling martial arts like judo or jiu jitsu are better if you don't want problems?

I’d love to do taekwondo but unfortunately my hips don’t stretch and have some kind of problem which makes them blocked with limited mobility so doing middle splits is impossible at the moment though I will look into jou jitsu thanks for your help

 

[Ninja 666]

Do you guys recommend boxing? I read everywhere that once you start sparring those blows at the head will damage your brain in time...

The gloves do protect the hand at the cost of damaging the brain, which is stupid if you think in mma for example you can hit with bare feet and knees.

This video is about this issue in MMA but the same applies to boxing:
https://youtu.be/cVJbmVUtQqA?t=173

That makes a lot of sense. So maybe grappling martial arts like judo or jiu jitsu are better if you don't want problems?

You should definitely do Jiu Jitsu, and with ear protection like Egon says. Make sure it's Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or Gracie Jiu Jitsu as these are the best. You should add Boxing and Muay Thai for striking. Or learn from someone who incorporate all these styles into a Vale Tudo / MMA / No Holds Barred fighting style. These styles are some of the best for real life situations.

In Boxing and Muay Thai you don't have to hit hard when you're sparring. You can go like 30% of full strength so you get a feel for it. Because of accidents, you still get hit from time to time, but nothing serious. And you can adjust this as you see fit.

In a street fight; I've had friends who've broken their knuckles, and friends who hasn't. All practiced. It all depends on your bones hardness and conditioning. And how good you punch. With Brazilian / Gracie Jiu Jitsu you won't have to bother with this. But it's still a risk because the style is all about getting your opponent to the ground, and to do this you need the take-down or getting close to their bodies. So when you're close up to their body is when they reach their hand around yours and stab you with their knife. This isn't simulation so it's like chaotic stabbing. All it takes is a little bit of timing. And that sucks. So you should definitely have some striking game and Boxing and Muay Thai are some of the best. In Muay Thai you also use your elbows and knees, and learn how to strike from the upper clinch (When your holding unto your opponents head, arms or torso).

I've heard Kali, stick fighting, is good. And I've heard Silat, knife fighting, is good. You can check out all the styles on YouTube and read about them online. You can also check fights where they have compared styles against each other. This is one way of testing it, but take into account the fighter himself, as some are good some are bad. A master of whatever style should be able to beat, or at least have the skill set to do so, any other style. As a master must understand fighting at it's core. When it gets to the physical: Brazilian / Gracie Jiu Jitsu, Boxing, Muay Thai are some of the best.

For the advanced Martial Arts applying your Chi and all this HP Mageson and HPS Maxine is talking about, you should look into it. If you combine the physical with the spiritual, and also the mental game of fighting, aimed at street fights (this would be the best scenario to practice for self defense) you should be pretty though.

In Ancient Greece, they practiced Pankration / Pammachon, meaning "all of power" / "total combat", you can read about it online. It incorporated Boxing and Wrestling and other variations. Some seem very brutal like eye gouging etc, but this can be later period when Christianity took a hold. For a culture that valued beauty, and had the Pentathlon events which incorporated spear tossing, running and so forth as these skills was useful in battle and war. It would be stupid to hold events that gauge out the eyes of your opponents. Wouldn't be much of a line up in the phalanx nor a good model for the statues.

The Greeks also trained their soldiers in Pankration, the Spartans used it, some of the best Athenian soldiers where distinguished pankratiast, and it was also a part of the phalanx of Alexander the Great.

The Greco-Roman Wrestling was used as a way of strengthening the body, but today Brazilian / Gracie Jiu Jitsu is best for self-defence because of the submissions and techniques to fighting bigger opponents. If you look at Boxers they are some of the best trained athletes in the world. And Wrestlers are also tip top shape.

There is cautions to take when choosing a gym, because of the world we live in with the Jewish Spell and sub-humans, but also some are not very healthy. Hit hard to the head and so forth. So be careful. Health is the most important, but you must be ready to fight in a real life situation and not just "closed simulated circuits". You should also read HP Mageson's comments on this thread.

 

[Ninja 666]

Do you guys recommend boxing? I read everywhere that once you start sparring those blows at the head will damage your brain in time...

The gloves do protect the hand at the cost of damaging the brain, which is stupid if you think in mma for example you can hit with bare feet and knees.

This video is about this issue in MMA but the same applies to boxing:
https://youtu.be/cVJbmVUtQqA?t=173

That makes a lot of sense. So maybe grappling martial arts like judo or jiu jitsu are better if you don't want problems?

BTW. If you're thinking about practicing any of this, I do not recommend any form or style that calls itself "Pankration" or "Pammachon" in todays society.

I do recommend the other styles I've mentioned though and combining them.

 

[Norse 88]

Personally I have always felt that the most important aspect of the martial arts is self-cultivation. If the development of one's own mental, physical, and spiritual faculties always remain as the highest priority one seeks to achieve, then the style or type of martial art, along with its combative potential, becomes less of a focus, and the readiness towards applying itself as an art form takes leadership.

 

[Ninja 666]

* Because of accidents, you still get hit hard from time to time, but nothing serious.

 

[Norse 88]

Furthermore, just a few hours ago I became cognizant of the fact that the choreographed set of movements which compose the form taught in tai chi (loosely akin to the poomsae or kata in TKD or aidkido and karate respectively) is a sequence of exactly 108 movements. The relevance of this to occult numerology is obvious. I'd appreciate any feedback about similar observations or knowledge from others about this kind of thing or any other comments on the links between the martial arts and occult wisdom. (All eastern arts as I understand it was developed from true occult knowledge and spiritual practices - possibly known simply as normal knowledge and healthy practices back then - along with Sanskrit as the commonly spoken language etc many millennia ago, and over time this filtered down to what is known as eastern martial arts and practice today, right?)

As far as I know, the practice of tai chi claims to be fixed in the cultivation of internal energy and health. To me it has noticeable similarities to some of the breathing techniques or postures in hatha yoga and it also has a few relationships to some of the power meditations we practice. This is especially when meditation promotes feeling chi (I'm going to refer to vril/witchpower/bioelectricity and so forth as simply chi/internal energy from here out) is the mainstay of the objective behind practice (e.g., the laying still phase at the end of hatha/kundalini yoga; opening and strengthening the palm chakras; the hexagradiator etc - tai chi attempts to teach a similar feeling of chi through inward focus coupled with a strong emphasis on inhale/exhale during specific movements of the body). That being said though, tai chi is still far less effective or direct (and subsequently probably much safer to the general public) than any of the power meditations or magick practices shared by the Joy of Satan. Granted, I haven't done all the meditations or works taught here. I have honestly worked with the beginner and most if not all intermediate practices at some stage so far. I've also used the 6 month warfare training manual and the 40 day empowerment program; so to be fair I am basing all my comparative reasoning thus far based on these grounds. I very much welcome rational counter-arguments - I've been wrong before. I want to make it clear that I'm speaking in consideration of both my skills and my rooms for improvement. Albeit, back to martial arts.

The tai chi practitioners with many years of practice (who honour titles like Grand Master and so on) have indicated to me directly either by conversation or in their writings that their comprehension of internal energy and their acquired skillful control over it is worlds apart and far behind from what JoS would seemingly have any of its freshly dedicated members equipped with as a degree of skill which, properly considered, would likely be viewed by anyone here as simply the basic foundations of spiritual practice, and we are encouraged if not guaranteed to get there in usually no more than perhaps 6 months of committed effort from scratch. It's pretty astounding. Tai chi comparatively requires likely many, many years of practice to achieve something close or similar - can anyone say otherwise? Would greatly appreciate feedback on that.

The 40 days of empowerment that HP HC made also teach an individual about their subtle energy and how to nurture it beyond what some of my personal friends, for example, (who are non SS, nor people demonstrating any 'gift' with psychic talent or otherwise to my knowledge) have not even closely grasped after 4-5+ years of dedicated martial arts training in both internal energy arts as well as more physically competitive training. Only one person I know (who is not an instructor and is relatively young compared to internal arts masters - he's under 25) has any real comprehension of chi from my own observation. However, he has been training wing chun kung-fu, taekwondo, qi gong and basic muscle relaxation meditations for more than half his life without pause (10 - 13 years). His skills do not exceed simply an awareness of his own chi through experience, however. Again, the power meditations have this developing and noticeable in maybe a few days depending on the person. It's blowing me away, haha. To think of decades spent getting what is rightly attainable by a degree of what could possibly be a thousandth of the time. It really emphasises the power of knowledge, in my opinion. Though maybe everyone here simply has dues paid in previous lives of slow progress and much effort, to which we now can build on rapidly, after all, there aren't a huge number of us and the trend certainly leans towards quality not quantity in JoS and Satanism on the whole. It would also go without saying that the extent to which the average SS would know the potential skills one can propagate with sufficient chi and psychic development is beyond anything I've read or discussed from tai-chi practitioners, they also expressly forbid using the energy to harm or serve oneself selfishly. This is an obvious line in the sand separating rightful spiritual self defense - a.k.a something like a psychic castle doctrine - and the lunatic self-destructive altruistic compusive behaviour that welcomes onslaught without any reasonable reproach. Tai chi also seems to falter into the rationale that the universe is one energetic pool with no separation, therefore we are all one and should be submissive to what the universe gives us - a deadly over simplification which undermines sensible autonomy and places communistic jewy undertones over them instead. These distinctions mark tai chi as inferior spiritual school of though which I've painted it as so far. Though it is highly likely that if one were highly advanced like this, then they wouldn't reveal such sensitive info publicly anyway - certainly not to someone as relentlessly inquisitive as myself, who is not even a grand master yet or anything! Shit! Haha. Nah, they're titles are fine I'm just taking the piss.

I'm not saying martial arts has no place for serious advancement or the SS. I state the opposite: It is definitely a strong compliment to hatha yoga in regards to chi cultivation and keeping the body supple and strong. It nurtures mental disciplin, and keeps alot of experiential knowledge readily available through physical practice with like minded individuals, which is something JoS doesn't readily promote or encourage (fair enough as it is), we must all mostly do our work without any class mates to directly interact with. So martial arts can compensate for this a bit (not that it's needed, but you may be considerably good at cave dwelling solo tasks, such as myself, and socialising can sometimes be difficult without some interesting context like the martial arts to coax you outside) To convey a blunt message: it is very difficult to find others (in physical interactions) outside of JoS who can readily discuss with you some aspects of chi energy from their own direct experience just like you can, rather than only having a philosophical belief in internal energy, which is something a lot of self-proclaimed spiritual yogis and psychedelic festival patrons are encompassed by. Other than that there is usually only the forms of non-acceptance or disbelief from the greater consensus of the western population. These reasons are definitely worth consideration in my opinion.

Anyway, I really let that one go off on a tangent. Let's get back to the 108 movements point I made earlier. Any thoughts?

I also really appreciated the post earlier which illustrated the swastika shape drawn by advanced taekwondo poomsae. That's great.

Kind regards,

Hail Satan!

 

[Aquarius]

The gloves do protect the hand at the cost of damaging the brain, which is stupid if you think in mma for example you can hit with bare feet and knees.

This video is about this issue in MMA but the same applies to boxing:
https://youtu.be/cVJbmVUtQqA?t=173

That makes a lot of sense. So maybe grappling martial arts like judo or jiu jitsu are better if you don't want problems?

You should definitely do Jiu Jitsu, and with ear protection like Egon says. Make sure it's Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or Gracie Jiu Jitsu as these are the best. You should add Boxing and Muay Thai for striking. Or learn from someone who incorporate all these styles into a Vale Tudo / MMA / No Holds Barred fighting style. These styles are some of the best for real life situations.

In Boxing and Muay Thai you don't have to hit hard when you're sparring. You can go like 30% of full strength so you get a feel for it. Because of accidents, you still get hit from time to time, but nothing serious. And you can adjust this as you see fit.

In a street fight; I've had friends who've broken their knuckles, and friends who hasn't. All practiced. It all depends on your bones hardness and conditioning. And how good you punch. With Brazilian / Gracie Jiu Jitsu you won't have to bother with this. But it's still a risk because the style is all about getting your opponent to the ground, and to do this you need the take-down or getting close to their bodies. So when you're close up to their body is when they reach their hand around yours and stab you with their knife. This isn't simulation so it's like chaotic stabbing. All it takes is a little bit of timing. And that sucks. So you should definitely have some striking game and Boxing and Muay Thai are some of the best. In Muay Thai you also use your elbows and knees, and learn how to strike from the upper clinch (When your holding unto your opponents head, arms or torso).

I've heard Kali, stick fighting, is good. And I've heard Silat, knife fighting, is good. You can check out all the styles on YouTube and read about them online. You can also check fights where they have compared styles against each other. This is one way of testing it, but take into account the fighter himself, as some are good some are bad. A master of whatever style should be able to beat, or at least have the skill set to do so, any other style. As a master must understand fighting at it's core. When it gets to the physical: Brazilian / Gracie Jiu Jitsu, Boxing, Muay Thai are some of the best.

For the advanced Martial Arts applying your Chi and all this HP Mageson and HPS Maxine is talking about, you should look into it. If you combine the physical with the spiritual, and also the mental game of fighting, aimed at street fights (this would be the best scenario to practice for self defense) you should be pretty though.

In Ancient Greece, they practiced Pankration / Pammachon, meaning "all of power" / "total combat", you can read about it online. It incorporated Boxing and Wrestling and other variations. Some seem very brutal like eye gouging etc, but this can be later period when Christianity took a hold. For a culture that valued beauty, and had the Pentathlon events which incorporated spear tossing, running and so forth as these skills was useful in battle and war. It would be stupid to hold events that gauge out the eyes of your opponents. Wouldn't be much of a line up in the phalanx nor a good model for the statues.

The Greeks also trained their soldiers in Pankration, the Spartans used it, some of the best Athenian soldiers where distinguished pankratiast, and it was also a part of the phalanx of Alexander the Great.

The Greco-Roman Wrestling was used as a way of strengthening the body, but today Brazilian / Gracie Jiu Jitsu is best for self-defence because of the submissions and techniques to fighting bigger opponents. If you look at Boxers they are some of the best trained athletes in the world. And Wrestlers are also tip top shape.

There is cautions to take when choosing a gym, because of the world we live in with the Jewish Spell and sub-humans, but also some are not very healthy. Hit hard to the head and so forth. So be careful. Health is the most important, but you must be ready to fight in a real life situation and not just "closed simulated circuits". You should also read HP Mageson's comments on this thread.

Thanks a lot for your help

 

[Aquarius]

I have started boxing and this is sooo fun, it really develops masculine energy and being in a room of people who fight is so fucking epic, like no fucking snowflakes in there lol!

 

[Egon]

I have started boxing and this is sooo fun, it really develops masculine energy and being in a room of people who fight is so fucking epic, like no fucking snowflakes in there lol!

Lol just yesterday I was watching some videos about Muhammad Ali, his boxing style, career etc., and I was watched some eps of Hajime no Ippo, an anime about boxing which I highly recommend by the way.

 

[Aquarius]

I have started boxing and this is sooo fun, it really develops masculine energy and being in a room of people who fight is so fucking epic, like no fucking snowflakes in there lol!

Lol just yesterday I was watching some videos about Muhammad Ali, his boxing style, career etc., and I was watched some eps of Hajime no Ippo, an anime about boxing which I highly recommend by the way.

Muhammad Ali was a great guy, he was a very controversial figure too as he openly spoke against race mixing.

 

[Egon]

Karate Sucks for Self Defense | Muay Thai vs. Kyokushin Breakdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBGhSUsUm68

 

[Aquarius]

What is your opinion on the russian martial art Systema?