Make yourself uncomfortable

[FancyMancy]

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Oh, yeah. That's great advice. A restaurant worker will do those things. If in a restaurant, you certainly would be sitting on a stool of all things. I am guessing this venture would take place in a not-McDonald's restaurant; McDonald's staff wouldn't do such things; a swanky-arsed restaurant, for a business meeting, would? Lel.
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Pretty sure most of the Big M's chairs are either metal or bolted to the floor, anyway. :lol:

Actually, I think you're right, lol. I haven't been to Maccy D's for ages.

If one lets such immature tactics influence them, or influence their business dealings, they really aren't suited to do business whatsoever.

Hey, it's not all bad. These retarded fantasy threads are separating the idiots from the less-idiots on here. We're seeing members sit on the mount/Sinai, being breast-fed by the deity who demands worship and attention; who contradicts itself; is supposed to be holier-than-thou; wise beyond its ears; not delivering much - if any - helpful advice at all... Such goyimisation.

 

[FancyMancy]

Only onions say "hm" that much. :lol:

I don't know the reference or joke. Regardless, I hope I don't make anyone cry...

:lol:

If you're curious, it's from the Dark Souls games. The games are very, very jewish in nature so I wouldn't recommend playing or watching them, like ever, but some of the in crowd humor is amusing.

K.

I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have thought of any of that. It sounds really dirty and cutthroat though. Is this sort of thing common in the business world? If people pulled stuff like this on me then I'd probably curse them.

Oh, yeah. That's great advice. A restaurant worker will do those things. If in a restaurant, you certainly would be sitting on a stool of all things. I am guessing this venture would take place in a not-McDonald's restaurant; McDonald's staff wouldn't do such things; a swanky-arsed restaurant, for a business meeting, would? Lel.

These fantasy stories are great. Really. I'll go to the second star on the straight-ahead, and straight-on 'til evening. Oh, wait a minute. I am not an actor playing a character in a Children's fantasy story... Oh, fine - back to life, back to reality, back to the here and now, yeah, show me how.

What's all of this about mcdonalds? :lol:

It's jewish, fat, unhealthy... It might taste nice, but that's it. It's unfulfilling and expensive - in the sense that 30 minutes after eating, you're hungry again. The burgers are all water and meh.

You have to realize that many people will agree to do things for you if you give them money. A staff member doesn't own the company, they only work there, so they are more likely to accept bribes. That's usually how it works. Most people have a price, sadly. Then there's stubborn guys like me who will turn bribes down on principle even if they offered me the national coffers. I would rather take than be bought because then I'm not selling out my own will, but rather using my own will to get what they offered me in the first place without doing their dirty work for them. Punishing bribers like that sounds fun.

Yeah, well, we're not going to fall for giving money to a stranger on this forum. thinks, disgustingly, about zola Oh. Some of us did already... It's cool, though - HPS Maxine, et al, all demanded enough slaves to worship them and to give them money before revealing the Satanic secrets of the Universe, that they knew about, back in 2002... Why should a n00b be any different?! No... wait... HPS Maxine, and others, didn't do that! Zoiks! It was revealed free and freely, without charge, gratis, willingly, selflessly...

 

[Aquarius]

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Prepare the ground for battle

When going for negotiations, always fight on your turf and make sure to prepare the battleground.
If it's going to be a restaurant, get there a week earlier. Make the necessary reservations. Ask the staff to cut the legs of your opponent's stool so that they sit a bit lower than you do.
Ask them to make your food extra dry and pump it so it looks bigger. Ask them to serve your opponent dripping food (extra sauce) which will force them to lower their head to eat or make a mess of themselves.
Ask the staff to give bad looks to your guest and disrespect him in a subtle way.
Use every trick in the book.

I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have thought of any of that. It sounds really dirty and cutthroat though. Is this sort of thing common in the business world? If people pulled stuff like this on me then I'd probably curse them.

If I get into business and investing in the future, I think I will try to program my aura to attract straight shooters/honest men and women as business partners and whatnot. I'm not personally fond of manipulation on this level, and I couldn't bring myself to do it to someone. If I felt I had cause to be that ruthless to someone, or if I really really needed them out of my way, then I would probably do magick to sink their business or whatever.

If one lets such immature tactics influence them, or influence their business dealings, they really aren't suited to do business whatsoever.

Hypothetically someone "uses every trick in the book", and proceeds to laugh at their "guest" for it, to humiliate them, etc, what would this really accomplish anyway?

To feel humiliated is a personal choice at the end of the day. Tactics like this may only work if your guest desperately needs a business deal more than you, and thus one can push them around.

If they aren't desperate for it, it won't do anything as they can just get up and leave without saying a word, leaving you hanging and looking like a buffoon.

The most important thing in any dealing with another person, is to never come across as if you are desperate for it, or need it more than them, but that it is your choice to be there and that it makes no difference to you whether you walk away with nothing or with an agreeable deal.

One must always know what they want from another person, and never let anyone else push you around for it.

Stand in your own shoes, let people act like the clowns they are by using their little beta business tactics, when the talks are about to begin give them a gesture with your gaze "and what of it?" Conveying to the other party you are exactly aware of their little clown tactics, and that it changes nothing.

Or just get up and leave just as they are about to get into the meat of the issue after all the bravado is over. Tell them "If you're serious about discussing a dealing with me, you know where to reach me", get up and leave calmly, without looking back at them or saying another word.

Chances are, if someone is lacking in confidence to have to clown around like this in order to try and position themselves in an advantageous position over you, they are the ones who care about face and humiliation, and who will feel the hurt for days to come after you handle them like that, while you go on with your life unbothered as you were.


Taking initiative, not letting others walk over you, being confident and knowing what you want out of an interaction before you get into it are more important than any such little "cutthroat" tactics.

Whether you are the one humiliated, or they are, depends entirely on how you receive the attempted humiliation of another.


Hail Satan!

This is probably the best reply in the whole thread, no "leave food on your plate" "advice" beats this.

 

[The Alchemist7 [JG]]

Not from after he/she/it attacked others already?

That's the issue. Is not about Fancy this and that as it's about a perpetual vicious cycle of several members attacking, slandering and ridiculizing each other wherever they find the opportunity, something which got worse and worse in the last months. This must somehow be stopped If we are expecting millions of people to reach JoS and many of them will join the forums as well. When they come here they shouldn't see old members attacking each other incessantly and not on very justified reasons sometimes. Is like going to a new job and you see the employees arguing and fighting each other every day, that's not the sort of environment one would want to find in a community especially when they are new.

 

[FancyMancy]

Not from after he/she/it attacked others already?

That's the issue. Is not about Fancy this and that as it's about a perpetual vicious cycle of several members attacking, slandering and ridiculizing each other wherever they find the opportunity, something which got worse and worse in the last months.

Ridiculing*

I am not wielding a sniper rifle and targetting whomever. I thought I made the reasons clear... but also throwing in a bit of my own sense of humour or flare (sarcasm, etc.), if you will.

 

[Jrvan]

__________________________________
Prepare the ground for battle

When going for negotiations, always fight on your turf and make sure to prepare the battleground.
If it's going to be a restaurant, get there a week earlier. Make the necessary reservations. Ask the staff to cut the legs of your opponent's stool so that they sit a bit lower than you do.
Ask them to make your food extra dry and pump it so it looks bigger. Ask them to serve your opponent dripping food (extra sauce) which will force them to lower their head to eat or make a mess of themselves.
Ask the staff to give bad looks to your guest and disrespect him in a subtle way.
Use every trick in the book.

I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have thought of any of that. It sounds really dirty and cutthroat though. Is this sort of thing common in the business world? If people pulled stuff like this on me then I'd probably curse them.

If I get into business and investing in the future, I think I will try to program my aura to attract straight shooters/honest men and women as business partners and whatnot. I'm not personally fond of manipulation on this level, and I couldn't bring myself to do it to someone. If I felt I had cause to be that ruthless to someone, or if I really really needed them out of my way, then I would probably do magick to sink their business or whatever.

That's just scratching the surface.
Most people will cook the books in one way or another.
If someone is selling a business they will make it look like they earn more than they really do.
Here's an example : when going through the documentation of a business, I found a recently made contract with a client for a crazy amount of monthly revenue. Fortunately I caught the scam. The signature of the client started with the word Veto, which invalidates the contract. Thus the client had no obligation towards the business. The business owner could also claim plausible deniability as he could say that the client scammed him. The client can't be prosecuted for that either. If I had proceeded with the purchase, I'd be in a costly legal battle for months and probably never gotten the money back.

Well damn. If it's really that bad then I see your point that you originally made about enlightening people here who will be doing business in the future about how to deal with the rotten scum. People misinterpreted what you were saying for sure, and I see what you were talking about now. Someone who tries to enter the business world with these sharks is going to look like an easy target if they don't follow your advice. It's like someone getting fresh off the bus in a shady area like Jew York City when they don't know the place, and looking around them in amazement. People who are street smart know that such country bumpkins are usually immediately targeted by people who will take advantage of them and their ignorance and false sense of safety. It's a predator smelling blood, and without practicing certain body language and other things that you mentioned it's like willingly knifing oneself and splattering blood in front of hungry animals.

 

[tabby]

This is probably the weirdest advice I'll ever give but if you're someone who struggles to look others in the eye, and are wanting to do the whole "dominance" thing for whatever reason, you can look at the spot between the persons eye brows or their forehead during conversation. Apparently, it causes your eyes to look more intimidating whilst giving the illusion that you are making eye-contact. I don't really get how it works, but it might be useful to guys who are shy or lack self-confidence to make direct eye-contact.

 

[Alexandros Iowno [JG]]

Regardless of the miss intended tones or miss interpretations, on the direct topic of the restaurant or business talk, it is a well known tactic used by mafia guys, politicians etc etc.

This might be something weird for Americans, but in Eastern Europe these things are facts and it is basically a fight of ego, or a brotherly "come up". Nothing in between, nothing less nothing more.

Business done in such ways are always related to real big money and not just some small town lady wanting to make a cake business or just a "nobody" who made their first money and thinks they own the world.

You want to open up a casino on your own and expand, bad luck as you need allowance and REAL ego and value check with the mafia or political influences in the places.

I think AAA knows this and also is with a positive intention speaking of this. However, as much as I'd like to talk as well on these subjects, the overall atmosphere seems to not allow this, given the little things told and the replies on it.

On a spiritual side of things, masculine traits and ego will help 100% in this, anything else such as intuition, emotion should be placed on a pre meditated strategy and not action, especially meetings or real actions of business.

We are SS and discussion of "conquer", supreme elite action and discussion is to be entertained. Money, business, relationships everything. Don't let outsiders larp what you are for real, and that is an elite individual doing elite spiritual practices and life path.

 

[Paladin of Khepu]

__________________________________
Prepare the ground for battle

When going for negotiations, always fight on your turf and make sure to prepare the battleground.
If it's going to be a restaurant, get there a week earlier. Make the necessary reservations. Ask the staff to cut the legs of your opponent's stool so that they sit a bit lower than you do.
Ask them to make your food extra dry and pump it so it looks bigger. Ask them to serve your opponent dripping food (extra sauce) which will force them to lower their head to eat or make a mess of themselves.
Ask the staff to give bad looks to your guest and disrespect him in a subtle way.
Use every trick in the book.

I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have thought of any of that. It sounds really dirty and cutthroat though. Is this sort of thing common in the business world? If people pulled stuff like this on me then I'd probably curse them.

If I get into business and investing in the future, I think I will try to program my aura to attract straight shooters/honest men and women as business partners and whatnot. I'm not personally fond of manipulation on this level, and I couldn't bring myself to do it to someone. If I felt I had cause to be that ruthless to someone, or if I really really needed them out of my way, then I would probably do magick to sink their business or whatever.

If one lets such immature tactics influence them, or influence their business dealings, they really aren't suited to do business whatsoever.

Hypothetically someone "uses every trick in the book", and proceeds to laugh at their "guest" for it, to humiliate them, etc, what would this really accomplish anyway?

To feel humiliated is a personal choice at the end of the day. Tactics like this may only work if your guest desperately needs a business deal more than you, and thus one can push them around.

If they aren't desperate for it, it won't do anything as they can just get up and leave without saying a word, leaving you hanging and looking like a buffoon.

The most important thing in any dealing with another person, is to never come across as if you are desperate for it, or need it more than them, but that it is your choice to be there and that it makes no difference to you whether you walk away with nothing or with an agreeable deal.

One must always know what they want from another person, and never let anyone else push you around for it.

Stand in your own shoes, let people act like the clowns they are by using their little beta business tactics, when the talks are about to begin give them a gesture with your gaze "and what of it?" Conveying to the other party you are exactly aware of their little clown tactics, and that it changes nothing.

Or just get up and leave just as they are about to get into the meat of the issue after all the bravado is over. Tell them "If you're serious about discussing a dealing with me, you know where to reach me", get up and leave calmly, without looking back at them or saying another word.

Chances are, if someone is lacking in confidence to have to clown around like this in order to try and position themselves in an advantageous position over you, they are the ones who care about face and humiliation, and who will feel the hurt for days to come after you handle them like that, while you go on with your life unbothered as you were.


Taking initiative, not letting others walk over you, being confident and knowing what you want out of an interaction before you get into it are more important than any such little "cutthroat" tactics.

Whether you are the one humiliated, or they are, depends entirely on how you receive the attempted humiliation of another.


Hail Satan!

In all respects brother, to go the lengths of humiliation and using devious means are already a subgrade of ignorance. An honest approach as Jrvan said is quite respectful.

The Op who made this post is not really giving a more honest approach but using means that current world acts while under Jewish control. That would mean I’m going way backwards from what is supposed to be.

It is very degrading to do these things.

Maybe my understanding may seem too naive, but I’m an upfront to the pint kind of man. Devious means are played by fools and cowards in my opinion.

 

[Jrvan]

I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have thought of any of that. It sounds really dirty and cutthroat though. Is this sort of thing common in the business world? If people pulled stuff like this on me then I'd probably curse them.

If I get into business and investing in the future, I think I will try to program my aura to attract straight shooters/honest men and women as business partners and whatnot. I'm not personally fond of manipulation on this level, and I couldn't bring myself to do it to someone. If I felt I had cause to be that ruthless to someone, or if I really really needed them out of my way, then I would probably do magick to sink their business or whatever.

If one lets such immature tactics influence them, or influence their business dealings, they really aren't suited to do business whatsoever.

Hypothetically someone "uses every trick in the book", and proceeds to laugh at their "guest" for it, to humiliate them, etc, what would this really accomplish anyway?

To feel humiliated is a personal choice at the end of the day. Tactics like this may only work if your guest desperately needs a business deal more than you, and thus one can push them around.

If they aren't desperate for it, it won't do anything as they can just get up and leave without saying a word, leaving you hanging and looking like a buffoon.

The most important thing in any dealing with another person, is to never come across as if you are desperate for it, or need it more than them, but that it is your choice to be there and that it makes no difference to you whether you walk away with nothing or with an agreeable deal.

One must always know what they want from another person, and never let anyone else push you around for it.

Stand in your own shoes, let people act like the clowns they are by using their little beta business tactics, when the talks are about to begin give them a gesture with your gaze "and what of it?" Conveying to the other party you are exactly aware of their little clown tactics, and that it changes nothing.

Or just get up and leave just as they are about to get into the meat of the issue after all the bravado is over. Tell them "If you're serious about discussing a dealing with me, you know where to reach me", get up and leave calmly, without looking back at them or saying another word.

Chances are, if someone is lacking in confidence to have to clown around like this in order to try and position themselves in an advantageous position over you, they are the ones who care about face and humiliation, and who will feel the hurt for days to come after you handle them like that, while you go on with your life unbothered as you were.


Taking initiative, not letting others walk over you, being confident and knowing what you want out of an interaction before you get into it are more important than any such little "cutthroat" tactics.

Whether you are the one humiliated, or they are, depends entirely on how you receive the attempted humiliation of another.


Hail Satan!

In all respects brother, to go the lengths of humiliation and using devious means are already a subgrade of ignorance. An honest approach as Jrvan said is quite respectful.

The Op who made this post is not really giving a more honest approach but using means that current world acts while under Jewish control. That would mean I’m going way backwards from what is supposed to be.

It is very degrading to do these things.

Maybe my understanding may seem too naive, but I’m an upfront to the pint kind of man. Devious means are played by fools and cowards in my opinion.

I didn't think VoE was contradicting me, but rather adding on to what I said. Did I miss something?

 

[tabby]

I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have thought of any of that. It sounds really dirty and cutthroat though. Is this sort of thing common in the business world? If people pulled stuff like this on me then I'd probably curse them.

If I get into business and investing in the future, I think I will try to program my aura to attract straight shooters/honest men and women as business partners and whatnot. I'm not personally fond of manipulation on this level, and I couldn't bring myself to do it to someone. If I felt I had cause to be that ruthless to someone, or if I really really needed them out of my way, then I would probably do magick to sink their business or whatever.

If one lets such immature tactics influence them, or influence their business dealings, they really aren't suited to do business whatsoever.

Hypothetically someone "uses every trick in the book", and proceeds to laugh at their "guest" for it, to humiliate them, etc, what would this really accomplish anyway?

To feel humiliated is a personal choice at the end of the day. Tactics like this may only work if your guest desperately needs a business deal more than you, and thus one can push them around.

If they aren't desperate for it, it won't do anything as they can just get up and leave without saying a word, leaving you hanging and looking like a buffoon.

The most important thing in any dealing with another person, is to never come across as if you are desperate for it, or need it more than them, but that it is your choice to be there and that it makes no difference to you whether you walk away with nothing or with an agreeable deal.

One must always know what they want from another person, and never let anyone else push you around for it.

Stand in your own shoes, let people act like the clowns they are by using their little beta business tactics, when the talks are about to begin give them a gesture with your gaze "and what of it?" Conveying to the other party you are exactly aware of their little clown tactics, and that it changes nothing.

Or just get up and leave just as they are about to get into the meat of the issue after all the bravado is over. Tell them "If you're serious about discussing a dealing with me, you know where to reach me", get up and leave calmly, without looking back at them or saying another word.

Chances are, if someone is lacking in confidence to have to clown around like this in order to try and position themselves in an advantageous position over you, they are the ones who care about face and humiliation, and who will feel the hurt for days to come after you handle them like that, while you go on with your life unbothered as you were.


Taking initiative, not letting others walk over you, being confident and knowing what you want out of an interaction before you get into it are more important than any such little "cutthroat" tactics.

Whether you are the one humiliated, or they are, depends entirely on how you receive the attempted humiliation of another.


Hail Satan!

In all respects brother, to go the lengths of humiliation and using devious means are already a subgrade of ignorance. An honest approach as Jrvan said is quite respectful.

The Op who made this post is not really giving a more honest approach but using means that current world acts while under Jewish control. That would mean I’m going way backwards from what is supposed to be.

It is very degrading to do these things.

Maybe my understanding may seem too naive, but I’m an upfront to the pint kind of man. Devious means are played by fools and cowards in my opinion.

If a person is willing to be that way, unfortunately, in the current climate of our world, being "devious" or dishonest tends to get you further in society and the business game than being honest. From what I can understand, it's largely because you're entering a rigged game to begin with. One can't roll an honest roll in the higher business world, and expect someone not to come in with the loaded dice and hidden cards up their sleeves to screw you over.

To honest folk, it seems downright crazy. But that's the way it is a lot of the time now.

 

[Mastermind]

Regardless of the miss intended tones or miss interpretations, on the direct topic of the restaurant or business talk, it is a well known tactic used by mafia guys, politicians etc etc.

This might be something weird for Americans, but in Eastern Europe these things are facts and it is basically a fight of ego, or a brotherly "come up". Nothing in between, nothing less nothing more.

Business done in such ways are always related to real big money and not just some small town lady wanting to make a cake business or just a "nobody" who made their first money and thinks they own the world.

You want to open up a casino on your own and expand, bad luck as you need allowance and REAL ego and value check with the mafia or political influences in the places.

I think AAA knows this and also is with a positive intention speaking of this. However, as much as I'd like to talk as well on these subjects, the overall atmosphere seems to not allow this, given the little things told and the replies on it.

On a spiritual side of things, masculine traits and ego will help 100% in this, anything else such as intuition, emotion should be placed on a pre meditated strategy and not action, especially meetings or real actions of business.

We are SS and discussion of "conquer", supreme elite action and discussion is to be entertained. Money, business, relationships everything. Don't let outsiders larp what you are for real, and that is an elite individual doing elite spiritual practices and life path.

Suppose that person A wants to buy a used bike from person B.
At the outset, person A says: "I'm willing to pay between $0 and $2,000".
Person B follows up with: "I'm willing to sell it between $1,000 and $infinity".

How much will they agree on?
In an ideal world, they would split the difference and all parties would be satisfied.

We are not in an ideal world. The buyer will seek the least and the seller will seek the most. The stronger party will get the better deal. The end.

 

[Mastermind]

Regardless of the miss intended tones or miss interpretations, on the direct topic of the restaurant or business talk, it is a well known tactic used by mafia guys, politicians etc etc.

This might be something weird for Americans, but in Eastern Europe these things are facts and it is basically a fight of ego, or a brotherly "come up". Nothing in between, nothing less nothing more.

Business done in such ways are always related to real big money and not just some small town lady wanting to make a cake business or just a "nobody" who made their first money and thinks they own the world.

You want to open up a casino on your own and expand, bad luck as you need allowance and REAL ego and value check with the mafia or political influences in the places.

I think AAA knows this and also is with a positive intention speaking of this. However, as much as I'd like to talk as well on these subjects, the overall atmosphere seems to not allow this, given the little things told and the replies on it.

On a spiritual side of things, masculine traits and ego will help 100% in this, anything else such as intuition, emotion should be placed on a pre meditated strategy and not action, especially meetings or real actions of business.

We are SS and discussion of "conquer", supreme elite action and discussion is to be entertained. Money, business, relationships everything. Don't let outsiders larp what you are for real, and that is an elite individual doing elite spiritual practices and life path.

I could write lots about negotiating.
In my experience, it's best to start by establishing dominance and humiliating the other person.
That will force either a no deal or a good deal for you.
To prevent a no deal situation, you rebuild the other person's ego after you humiliate them.
I can go into detail and give examples if people are interested.

 

[Cynthia]

Pay attention to your attitude and behavior.

It will help your attitude if you make yourself believe, just before meeting someone, that you accomplished something great. The greatest thing you can imagine, make yourself believe that. You should have a satisfied poker face.

As for behavior and manners, a book could be written about it. The most important is to lead others. Do not let others lead you. Always go where you want to go and when you decide to do so. For example, if you are at a restaurant and the other person finishes the meal before you and wants to go, tell them that you are still hungry. If they decide to go anyway, let them. If they want to wait outside, fine as well. Btw you never want to finish a meal. Never finish a glass and don't fill your glass to the top. Always throw out some. Don't eat like an animal. Don't lower your head, bring the food up.
As for when to do things, you are always busy and you always check your agenda first. If someone proposes at a certain time, check your agenda and tell them that you are busy. Pick a time that is uncomfortable for the other person. If dealing with xian, pick sunday. If dealing with muslim, pick friday. If dealing with jew, pick saturday. Things have to happen on your terms.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I think you need to work on your intelligence. You are severely lacking it.

Rude

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

I didn't think VoE was contradicting me, but rather adding on to what I said. Did I miss something?

You didn't miss anything, that's indeed what I did.

It is MercRx right now, therefore confusion is more common in communication right now.

I think Ramier just slightly misinterpreted my intent, while also adding his own view on this simultaneously.

MercRx communication causes things like that often, where communication becomes hazy sometimes and intents are easily missed due to the haze of Mercury Retrograde.

Hail Satan!

 

[Jrvan]

it's about a perpetual vicious cycle of several members attacking, slandering and ridiculizing each other wherever they find the opportunity, something which got worse and worse in the last months. This must somehow be stopped If we are expecting millions of people to reach JoS and many of them will join the forums as well. When they come here they shouldn't see old members attacking each other incessantly and not on very justified reasons sometimes. Is like going to a new job and you see the employees arguing and fighting each other every day, that's not the sort of environment one would want to find in a community especially when they are new.

I've been thinking the same lately. It makes me a bit anxious when I think of how many hundreds of potential new Satanists could be driven away just because they saw some big egos on the forums squawking at each other like chickens. It's a really embarrassing image, and I've been trying my best to change my approach and set a better example lately. I only hope other people will follow my good example. We all need to put Satan and the JoS above our egos and pride. Imagining the alternative if we lost this precious place or if we failed in our objectives, that terrifies me and pushes me to put Satan first before myself.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

Regardless of the miss intended tones or miss interpretations, on the direct topic of the restaurant or business talk, it is a well known tactic used by mafia guys, politicians etc etc.

This might be something weird for Americans, but in Eastern Europe these things are facts and it is basically a fight of ego, or a brotherly "come up". Nothing in between, nothing less nothing more.

Business done in such ways are always related to real big money and not just some small town lady wanting to make a cake business or just a "nobody" who made their first money and thinks they own the world.

You want to open up a casino on your own and expand, bad luck as you need allowance and REAL ego and value check with the mafia or political influences in the places.

I think AAA knows this and also is with a positive intention speaking of this. However, as much as I'd like to talk as well on these subjects, the overall atmosphere seems to not allow this, given the little things told and the replies on it.

On a spiritual side of things, masculine traits and ego will help 100% in this, anything else such as intuition, emotion should be placed on a pre meditated strategy and not action, especially meetings or real actions of business.

We are SS and discussion of "conquer", supreme elite action and discussion is to be entertained. Money, business, relationships everything. Don't let outsiders larp what you are for real, and that is an elite individual doing elite spiritual practices and life path.

Good point. Yes, these tactics seemed like what one uses in a hostile setting, not with another SS or other decent person.

The thing that I find silly is that I believe you could get a better, even more natural response, through working with masculine energies in various ways. This goes for a lot of life advice threads, where people suggest doing only certain physical actions, forgetting the spiritual origins of that action.

 

[tabby]

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Regardless of the miss intended tones or miss interpretations, on the direct topic of the restaurant or business talk, it is a well known tactic used by mafia guys, politicians etc etc.

This might be something weird for Americans, but in Eastern Europe these things are facts and it is basically a fight of ego, or a brotherly "come up". Nothing in between, nothing less nothing more.

Business done in such ways are always related to real big money and not just some small town lady wanting to make a cake business or just a "nobody" who made their first money and thinks they own the world.

You want to open up a casino on your own and expand, bad luck as you need allowance and REAL ego and value check with the mafia or political influences in the places.

I think AAA knows this and also is with a positive intention speaking of this. However, as much as I'd like to talk as well on these subjects, the overall atmosphere seems to not allow this, given the little things told and the replies on it.

On a spiritual side of things, masculine traits and ego will help 100% in this, anything else such as intuition, emotion should be placed on a pre meditated strategy and not action, especially meetings or real actions of business.

We are SS and discussion of "conquer", supreme elite action and discussion is to be entertained. Money, business, relationships everything. Don't let outsiders larp what you are for real, and that is an elite individual doing elite spiritual practices and life path.

Good point. Yes, these tactics seemed like what one uses in a hostile setting, not with another SS or other decent person.

The thing that I find silly is that I believe you could get a better, even more natural response, through working with masculine energies in various ways. This goes for a lot of life advice threads, where people suggest doing only certain physical actions, forgetting the spiritual origins of that action.

I agree with you. Given some time, I think eventually people will start to naturally think and approach problems in a more balanced way between the physical and spiritual, see the links between the two and how they impact each other - the more they realize and understand just how powerful the spiritual approach is to achieve what you want. It can be a difficult hurdle to overcome at first, and depending on ones placements may make it harder to overcome compared to others. Most have lived without even knowing basic aura programming was a thing, and heavily relying on material actions to get themselves through life. So it's only natural that the spiritual approach is not yet second nature to many who come here and start learning.

The more we learn to trust ourselves and our power, apply our spiritual knowledge, and see things manifest in our lives, the easier it becomes on the mind to trust more spiritual actions to solve problems. I'm stating this in general, some people need to see in order to believe, whilst others already know how to.

 

[Paladin of Khepu]

If one lets such immature tactics influence them, or influence their business dealings, they really aren't suited to do business whatsoever.

Hypothetically someone "uses every trick in the book", and proceeds to laugh at their "guest" for it, to humiliate them, etc, what would this really accomplish anyway?

To feel humiliated is a personal choice at the end of the day. Tactics like this may only work if your guest desperately needs a business deal more than you, and thus one can push them around.

If they aren't desperate for it, it won't do anything as they can just get up and leave without saying a word, leaving you hanging and looking like a buffoon.

The most important thing in any dealing with another person, is to never come across as if you are desperate for it, or need it more than them, but that it is your choice to be there and that it makes no difference to you whether you walk away with nothing or with an agreeable deal.

One must always know what they want from another person, and never let anyone else push you around for it.

Stand in your own shoes, let people act like the clowns they are by using their little beta business tactics, when the talks are about to begin give them a gesture with your gaze "and what of it?" Conveying to the other party you are exactly aware of their little clown tactics, and that it changes nothing.

Or just get up and leave just as they are about to get into the meat of the issue after all the bravado is over. Tell them "If you're serious about discussing a dealing with me, you know where to reach me", get up and leave calmly, without looking back at them or saying another word.

Chances are, if someone is lacking in confidence to have to clown around like this in order to try and position themselves in an advantageous position over you, they are the ones who care about face and humiliation, and who will feel the hurt for days to come after you handle them like that, while you go on with your life unbothered as you were.


Taking initiative, not letting others walk over you, being confident and knowing what you want out of an interaction before you get into it are more important than any such little "cutthroat" tactics.

Whether you are the one humiliated, or they are, depends entirely on how you receive the attempted humiliation of another.


Hail Satan!

In all respects brother, to go the lengths of humiliation and using devious means are already a subgrade of ignorance. An honest approach as Jrvan said is quite respectful.

The Op who made this post is not really giving a more honest approach but using means that current world acts while under Jewish control. That would mean I’m going way backwards from what is supposed to be.

It is very degrading to do these things.

Maybe my understanding may seem too naive, but I’m an upfront to the pint kind of man. Devious means are played by fools and cowards in my opinion.

I didn't think VoE was contradicting me, but rather adding on to what I said. Did I miss something?

I was referring toS AAA’s post and how his response are in using the rigged ideas to get ahead.

 

[Paladin of Khepu]

I didn't think VoE was contradicting me, but rather adding on to what I said. Did I miss something?

You didn't miss anything, that's indeed what I did.

It is MercRx right now, therefore confusion is more common in communication right now.

I think Ramier just slightly misinterpreted my intent, while also adding his own view on this simultaneously.

MercRx communication causes things like that often, where communication becomes hazy sometimes and intents are easily missed due to the haze of Mercury Retrograde.

Hail Satan!

I did understand what you were referring to, however yes you are right in that I added something to it. I can grasp the idea from how tabby described it in playing in an already rigged game currently in society.

I do find it dishonorable and in all respects subhuman it’s entirety. I understand AAA is trying to give info, but he gets hung up on people listening to his delivery. Not everyone will agree or read the emails. This is reality. Calling others idiots definitely doesn’t help his delivery either, and that makes him more of a blubbering fool if he decides to react each time.

It would be in his best interest is to evolve and recognize his own issues and resolve. Not get mad and react like a ticking bomb.

In regards to Jrvan, I responded to him letting him know I wasn’t referring to him.

 

[Dahaarkan]

It's interesting to hear different ways of dealing with life situations, I personally take a different approach. I know some respond to such with disapproval since it does not suit them personally but I think it's cool nonetheless.

I have an opposite approach when it comes to this kind of thing. I am very cold and neutral, and ignore many of these things. Not that I am blind to them but when someone believes themselves in control they have their guard down.


When someone is comfortable, and believe themselves in control they are vulnerable to mental poisons and you can influence them relatively easily. People who obsess with being in a position of leadership are often easily manipulated by those who allow them to assume that role. Hardly ever realizing that in truth they are being influenced by the people they think are beneath them and have control over.

It is relatively easy especially when you are in between two of these people, to poison their minds against one another and have them ruin each other creating a vacuum for you to take advantage of.


When people underestimate you, think you weak and defenseless, they open themselves to your influence as a result of believing you are not a threat in any way. I imagine to you this sounds unthinkable. Just different modus operandi.

The last thing I'd want is for someone who could be useful for me is for them to feel humiliated or uncomfortable in my presence. I want them not only to like being in my presence but also pursue it more and more. And never perceive me as a threat or even see me as someone with ambitions or greater goals.

I suppose in a way be aware and careful about the way you handle these affairs as your advantages can be turned on you if you open yourself to the wrong person and believe you have them under your thumb.

People who operate like this sometimes have rude awakenings when someone who they believed was inferior to them then tramples them like a stairway towards their goals.

 

[Dahaarkan]

This is becoming another discussion like all threads that discuss any ideas, methods or modus operandi outside of what is generally accepted as the "norm".

The reality is that success requires no explanation. Others will seize opportunities and advantages, will accomplish and conquer, while you sit in a room contemplating the morality of such actions.

Others will think outside the box and seek ways to gain advantages while you sit there thinking of reasons as to why you shouldn't do everything in your power to succeed.


This ties into the defeatist and loser mindset that many have and I have written about this. In which their minds will seek reasons to fail and reasons not to do things, rather than seeking solutions and methods of obtaining success.

These people are also internally bitter at themselves and then project it towards others. Condemning anybody who dares to seek solutions and methods of being successful. I hope you continue to find success in all your endeavors.

 

[Mastermind]

When people underestimate you, think you weak and defenseless, they open themselves to your influence as a result of believing you are not a threat in any way. I imagine to you this sounds unthinkable. Just different modus operandi.

Not at all. In fact I advocated for such a modus operandi right in my first ever post on this forum.
I operate similarly to you most of the time.

However, there are situations where another modus operandi is called for.
If your goal is to buy something at half asking price, you know that most of the time you won't get a deal, if ever.
The domination & humiliation approach gives you a good chance.
The goal is to filter out those that have strong positions in a two stage filter, in order to waste the least amount of effort and time.
In the first stage you choose an uncomfortable time for the seller. Like sunday for a xian.
In the second stage you humiliate them. This gets rid of all the strong people and you are left with the desperate ones.
However, they won't take lightly to your humiliation and will be on the razor's edge of leaving to salvage their ego.
To prevent them from leaving you rebuild their ego. You make it seem like the humiliation wasn't intentional and give them praise. Make them feel valued. They will see you as a hero.
Now when you make a counteroffer for half of what they ask, you'll get a yes most of the time.

 

[Mastermind]

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I forgot to add. Once you make the counteroffer, don't wait for an answer.
Wait five to ten seconds and then hand them over the contract, the pen and tell them to sign it.