Make yourself uncomfortable

[TheAbyss]

However, I think AAA should improve its writing and the way it tries to communicate something here, as it could be misunderstood more than it should be. I personally think he could elaborate better what he says.

For example the point of "wasting food" is anything but wasting food (correct me if I'm wrong). Perhaps the point is the psychology behind it and the body language. In a business meal, it is not a time to enjoy the food, but it is an important time to talk about business, jobs, etc., and that should be the focus.

A thought of mine: when we eat certain foods (including fish and meat) and we enjoy them, our brain releases serotonin, the happiness hormone. In this state of joy we are more open and 'generous'.
In a business context this may not be convenient. As we feel comfortable and would be more inclined to naively accept offers that we would not normally accept. One must remain "vigilant" and find the most advantageous offer possible.

Another thing. Certain behaviours he explains might be useful to know in case people around us use them against us. Like the approach he used with his partner for example. Leaving aside the ethical part, I think these manipulative tricks etc. only work because we're not in a Satanic world yet.

Right now 99% of people are NPCs and as much as you want realistic situations they go a certain way and you have to know how to dominate them in the best manner.
AAA specified it at the beginning:

This advice is aimed at improving masculinity and dominance, which will come in handy when dealing with male andrapoda as that's the only language they understand.

 

[Draconi666]

Pay attention to your attitude and behavior.

It will help your attitude if you make yourself believe, just before meeting someone, that you accomplished something great. The greatest thing you can imagine, make yourself believe that. You should have a satisfied poker face.

As for behavior and manners, a book could be written about it. The most important is to lead others. Do not let others lead you. Always go where you want to go and when you decide to do so. For example, if you are at a restaurant and the other person finishes the meal before you and wants to go, tell them that you are still hungry. If they decide to go anyway, let them. If they want to wait outside, fine as well. Btw you never want to finish a meal. Never finish a glass and don't fill your glass to the top. Always throw out some. Don't eat like an animal. Don't lower your head, bring the food up.
As for when to do things, you are always busy and you always check your agenda first. If someone proposes at a certain time, check your agenda and tell them that you are busy. Pick a time that is uncomfortable for the other person. If dealing with xian, pick sunday. If dealing with muslim, pick friday. If dealing with jew, pick saturday. Things have to happen on your terms.

For that thing “that you accomplished something great” actually you are. Why should you need to make yourself believe of it if you definetly have it. Just need to remember who you are, just enough to remember dedication. The step that you taken I think that what is most important of what you accomplished, because most of the people all their life never even consider where such possibility could take them from satanic perspective. But here we are here. Of course half of this “accomplishment” is made by Gods, another half of you. But looking globally to this situation, is it not a greatest accomplishment? I think it is.

 

[Mastermind]

A lot of your post here is strictly about power dynamics. You gave it a grabby title, but perhaps you didn't preface enough.

It wasn't meant to be just about that. I wanted to touch on other areas as well.
Unfortunately the thread got derailed by idiots.
I hope that they are just idiots and not jews that got under the radar.

 

[Mastermind]

Now that I think about it, I think it'd be a mistake. Lots of people on this forum have still lots of trauma and shit to clean. They need to apply the information that's already here. Giving people any more information, especially financial, would probably be a grave mistake. Of course I'm open to be proven wrong.

I am also interested. Having a good financial education is fundamental to standing up in this world. Also the kind of mentality to have in these circumstances.

I for example don't have much experience in the business world yet, and I can perhaps theorise about dynamics but in practice I am still a student and don't know anything concrete. When I have time, I try to inform myself, study how business works, study financial markets etc. When I read advice on this matter I find it useful because no one has ever taught me. School does not teach that.

Maybe in some parts it is not clear what you are trying to communicate, perhaps some people may not like the manner in which you do it or simply some will not agree with you. However, it doesn't matter, as long as you give good insights that some people could find useful, even if they are few, it's fine. Keep going.

I sent you an email to the temp address. The information in there is not to be shared.

 

[Manik]

Another one that has a severe and acute lack of intelligence.

Fancy Mancy is manic pay him no mind

My name must taste like cock sense it's in your mouth. I'm nowhere involved in all this

 

[The Alchemist7 [JG]]

I don't think he's bulshitting or trolling in anyway. I think he is sharing some behavioral and psycological practices and that are most likely common practice in the society where he is coming from. Since most members here are not familiar with the people he is meeting, the work he is doing, they will find these practices abnormal.


I think you have done a mistake by generalizing certain practices that only make sense in particular circumstances and in particular environments. For example "eating all your food or not" since half of the thread was only about that, I do believe that you are totally right when you are saying that when you have a meal with an investor or with business purposes anyway is not the food itself that matter but extrapolating that as a generality that would apply in everyone's day to day life wouldn't really make sense. When you go to a restaurant to meet with an investor or buyer or seller I guess there are certain `manners` or "strategies" that this sort of people from the "higher society" follow but when you go to a restaurant with your friends or family, it doesn't make sense to behave like you are there for business purposes.

That's why you got these reactions, for most people here these practices may seem strange or abnormal because they are not common in the kind of environent they work in, or in the people they live with. As an example you was trying to justify these practices to Aquarius with examples from a business environment but have you asked Aquarius if he is even into business? If he is not then of course it wouln't make much sense for him. However I don't agree with the reactions you received neither because you haven't tried to spread any blatant falsehood.

 

[Mastermind]

During meditation today, I think that I was told that I shared secret knowledge that was meant only for me.

I kindly ask to have two posts deleted:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=352793#p352793
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=352825#p352825

 

[NinRick]

Don't eat like an animal. Don't lower your head, bring the food up.

In the context of a business meeting, I agree with you, as this makes sense.
I agree with Alchemist here, you should have made the context more clear, as myself and others probably as well, thought that you were talking about regular everyday interactions.

 

[Jrvan]

A lot of your post here is strictly about power dynamics. You gave it a grabby title, but perhaps you didn't preface enough.

It wasn't meant to be just about that. I wanted to touch on other areas as well.
Unfortunately the thread got derailed by idiots.
I hope that they are just idiots and not jews that got under the radar.

I see. That's unfortunate.

I think what this world is in dire need of is for more people to realize that feces stink no matter whose butt it is.

 

[FancyMancy]

Now that I think about it, I think it'd be a mistake. Lots of people on this forum have still lots of trauma and shit to clean. They need to apply the information that's already here. Giving people any more information, especially financial, would probably be a grave mistake. Of course I'm open to be proven wrong.

I am also interested. Having a good financial education is fundamental to standing up in this world. Also the kind of mentality to have in these circumstances.

I for example don't have much experience in the business world yet, and I can perhaps theorise about dynamics but in practice I am still a student and don't know anything concrete. When I have time, I try to inform myself, study how business works, study financial markets etc. When I read advice on this matter I find it useful because no one has ever taught me. School does not teach that.

Maybe in some parts it is not clear what you are trying to communicate, perhaps some people may not like the manner in which you do it or simply some will not agree with you. However, it doesn't matter, as long as you give good insights that some people could find useful, even if they are few, it's fine. Keep going.

If I see genuine interest from at least twenty people then I'd keep going.

You're such a deity. how often do your demands get met, having chumps eating out of the palms of your hands? Where shall we send our bribe or donation?

Another one that has a severe and acute lack of intelligence.

Fancy Mancy is manic pay him no mind

You have opportunity - and ample time - to reply to me on-topic, and you continue to troll me. Why? Because you're jealous? Apparently.

I don't think he's bulshitting or trolling in anyway. I think he is sharing some behavioral and psycological practices and that are most likely common practice in the society where he is coming from. Since most members here are not familiar with the people he is meeting, the work he is doing, they will find these practices abnormal.

Hm. Calling me unintelligent, then contradicting himself by saying to not call a retard a retard, because in doing so, the name-caller would be shitting on himself. Hm. Then also saying something else about calling people retards, or not. Hm. Saying "I demand people do as I say - and enough people at that - before I share information". Hm. Others saying at first he was OK, then he started being a shit dick. Hm. I'll continue hm-ing, perhaps.

During meditation today, I think that I was told that I shared secret knowledge that was meant only for me.

I kindly ask to have two posts deleted:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=352793#p352793
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=352825#p352825

Security-conscious, then Oh, shhhh. I shared something which was meant to be kept encrypted. Oh, darn. Oh, bloody darn it to heck.

Yeah, whatever. Keep on getting sheep - on here - by the scruffs of their necks. Lel. Hm.

If you are going to be a clown, go to an enemy forum and spew your garbage there.

PMSL, lol. Oh, the (American misunderstanding of) irony... or Oh, the inconsistent, contradictory hypocrisy. Lel. Hm.

People... sheeple, are so desperate. They can meditate, but nope, they sit on the mount or Sinai cross-legged and beg to know more... if they have enough ability to exceed to the demands. Lel. Hm. So desperate - so despair, much troll, indeed.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

My name must taste like cock sense it's in your mouth. I'm nowhere involved in all this

No one asked you loser. Another whipped puppet of mine.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Another one that has a severe and acute lack of intelligence.

Fancy Mancy is manic pay him no mind

My name must taste like cock sense it's in your mouth. I'm nowhere involved in all this

Manic is a word that means hyperactive and crazy. This has nothing to do with you.

 

[Jrvan]

Don't eat like an animal. Don't lower your head, bring the food up.

In the context of a business meeting, I agree with you, as this makes sense.
I agree with Alchemist here, you should have made the context more clear, as myself and others probably as well, thought that you were talking about regular everyday interactions.

That's because you and others make too many assumptions. You're too hasty when you read things. You should try not to jump the gun with your reactions before making an effort to properly understand something that someone else has written.

We can't go through life entirely without ever making any assumptions at all, but people who make too many assumptions are called assholes. "Assume" and "asshole" even have the first 3 letters in common. :lol:

Then there is the other problem that I talked about with the High Priest a while back... the vocabulary barrier. Most people are too lazy to double click a word they don't know, and then right click it, and click "search with google." Sometimes people even believe they know certain words and use them correctly when they don't, and an effort should be made to make sure they are using words correctly. For example, how many people mix up the words "asocial" and "antisocial?" How many even know what antisocial behavior actually is? How many people use the word "literally" when it's not literal at all, and they could use a different method to add emphasis on what they are saying? The brain dead youth have hijacked and corrupted the language, and now no one can understand each other because most people aren't using words correctly.

 

[Jrvan]

My name must taste like cock sense it's in your mouth. I'm nowhere involved in all this

No one asked you loser. Another whipped puppet of mine.

Dude, your profile picture really is degenerate AF. Reconsider Verita's advice please.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

Dude, your profile picture really is degenerate AF. Reconsider Verita's advice please.

No one asked you either cuck

Now I’ll keep it permanently just to make you angry

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

Dude, your profile picture really is degenerate AF. Reconsider Verita's advice please.

Calling me a “degenerate” and being repulsed by a sexual gesture is a very Christian puritan thing to say, which is an unsurprising thing for a little traumatized xian boy like you to believe.

You’ll probably respond to this in a fury whining how everyone attacks you when the truth is that you act like a Karen and constantly try to police other people on this forum and can’t handle when the same is done to you.

 

[Jrvan]

Dude, your profile picture really is degenerate AF. Reconsider Verita's advice please.

Calling me a “degenerate” and being repulsed by a sexual gesture is a very Christian puritan thing to say, which is an unsurprising thing for a little traumatized xian boy like you to believe.

You’ll probably respond to this in a fury whining how everyone attacks you when the truth is that you act like a Karen and constantly try to police other people on this forum and can’t handle when the same is done to you.

Triggered much? :lol:

 

[Taurus]

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Some of this is more worthwhile to pursue than others. I say this because doing spiritual work relevant to the lower chakras will make this behavior come out naturally.

Saturn is your endurance and ability to be disciplined and firm. Mars is your raw action, energy, and combativeness. The Sun is your ability to provide, vitality, and self-esteem.

Also, pay attention to "where" this energy is going. If you do a Mars square for "improving natal Mars" without specifying anything else, it will largely apply to the associated house. Yet, Mars rules the 1st house, which is why Aries is very self-oriented (to the point of being willing to kill someone).

As far as dealing with andrapoda, yes this is important. The degenerate ones will try to take advantage of you, or will at least not respect you. Beyond the above advice, make sure you are mindful of Neptunian/Pisces influence, which can weaken you to outside influence. This is good for sensing energy, but not when such energy/entity negatively impacts you.

in regards to improving natal mars, that would be a spiritual square right? i thought spirituals dont require affirmations?

 

[gnome]

the well known 48 Laws of Power.

Straight from the talmud.

Yes, they are "based on historical examples of people who’ve excelled or failed at wielding power", and of course many - if not all - of those examples would be Jewish.

That being said, it's good to know how they operate.

I found another book called 50 Ways to See Thru People a few years after finding '48 Laws of Power', which is actually much more in alignment with my spirit, and is focused more on being transparent whilst being able to protect yourself.

 

[Manik]

My name must taste like cock sense it's in your mouth. I'm nowhere involved in all this

No one asked you loser. Another whipped puppet of mine.

Yet here you are thinking about me, making absolutely no damn sense lmao. Glad to know I'm staying on your tongue like a dick tip tho. I don't feel " whipped", maybe do it harder? Crawl out of your momma's basement and stop sucking at life. You don't have to be a little b*#ch forever

 

[TheAbyss]

If I see genuine interest from at least twenty people then I'd keep going. Of the twenty, probably only a quarter is going to put it into practice.
What's the point otherwise? Spend a week writing something that maybe one person reads and then have to spend another week dealing with trolls?

Yeah. You decide what you believe is best

But don't think that what you say will be put into practice. You may be disappointed that you did not receive the consideration you expected. Or that people do not share your view of things even though it stems from real experiences.
If you have useful information and advice, do it out of a desire to want to share knowledge. If you obviously have this desire and feel it is worth your time.

We are all different, there are those who are not even suited to do business by nature no matter how hard they try. And they don't in principle agree with certain behaviours in these circumstances.

From what you say everyone will draw the information of interest and draw their own conclusions. And there are those who will go against you if they disagree with what you say of course. Maybe this will create critical and constructive discussions with exchanges of ideas, which unfortunately has not entirely happened.

I sent you an email to the temp address. The information in there is not to be shared.

Understood. Did I manage to reply to you correctly with a pgp message by the way?

Generally, the advice that you find on real estate will apply to businesses as well.
I advise against going into real estate as it's already infested with flippers.
The market for flipping businesses is untapped. The season is open, there are no hunters and the deer are so many you can shoot blindly in any direction and hit at least one.
https://www.youtube.com/c/TobyMathisEsq/videos

Thanks for all the info. I got the general idea but I need time to fully comprehend everything though.

 

[Mastermind]

...

See? PGP isn't that complicated. It's not as comfortable but that's the price to pay for anonymity.
Btw you have more mail.

 

[Jrvan]

If I see genuine interest from at least twenty people then I'd keep going. Of the twenty, probably only a quarter is going to put it into practice.
What's the point otherwise? Spend a week writing something that maybe one person reads and then have to spend another week dealing with trolls?

Yeah. You decide what you believe is best

But don't think that what you say will be put into practice. You may be disappointed that you did not receive the consideration you expected. Or that people do not share your view of things even though it stems from real experiences.
If you have useful information and advice, do it out of a desire to want to share knowledge. If you obviously have this desire and feel it is worth your time.

We are all different, there are those who are not even suited to do business by nature no matter how hard they try. And they don't in principle agree with certain behaviours in these circumstances.

From what you say everyone will draw the information of interest and draw their own conclusions. And there are those who will go against you if they disagree with what you say of course. Maybe this will create critical and constructive discussions with exchanges of ideas, which unfortunately has not entirely happened.

Very true and well said. However, if everyone goes against everyone they disagree with even if it's not jewish nonsense then we're all going to be fighting each other, and that will make us fall.

Respectful disagreement is best, unless it's obviously jewish crap.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

Triggered much? :lol:

You really are the biggest roach on this forum. Anytime you are met with real criticism you try to make a joke out of it and flip it on the original commenter. It’s a pathetic tactic of the enemy.

 

[Jrvan]

Triggered much? :lol:

You really are the biggest roach on this forum. Anytime you are met with real criticism you try to make a joke out of it and flip it on the original commenter. It’s a pathetic tactic of the enemy.

You think so?

Would you say calling me a cuck, a karen, a roach, etc... qualifies as "real criticism?"

Honestly, what is there to flip? You're still getting triggered btw, and it's still funny.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Yet here you are thinking about me, making absolutely no damn sense lmao. Glad to know I'm staying on your tongue like a dick tip tho. I don't feel " whipped", maybe do it harder? Crawl out of your momma's basement and stop sucking at life. You don't have to be a little b*#ch forever

You are just wrong. Nobody ever said anything about you. He said the word "manic" and you are mad because you are ignorant and you don't know what this word is. But nobody ever mentioned you and you are mad for no reason. You are ridiculous.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/manic

 

[Mastermind]

__________________________________
Prepare the ground for battle

When going for negotiations, always fight on your turf and make sure to prepare the battleground.
If it's going to be a restaurant, get there a week earlier. Make the necessary reservations. Ask the staff to cut the legs of your opponent's stool so that they sit a bit lower than you do.
Ask them to make your food extra dry and pump it so it looks bigger. Ask them to serve your opponent dripping food (extra sauce) which will force them to lower their head to eat or make a mess of themselves.
Ask the staff to give bad looks to your guest and disrespect him in a subtle way.
Use every trick in the book.

 

[The Alchemist7 [JG]]

Hm. Calling me unintelligent, then contradicting himself by saying to not call a retard a retard, because in doing so, the name-caller would be shitting on himself. Hm. Then also saying something else about calling people retards, or not. Hm. Saying "I demand people do as I say - and enough people at that - before I share information". Hm. Others saying at first he was OK, then he started being a shit dick. Hm. I'll continue hm-ing, perhaps.

Well if you look at the comments first you called him incel and mama out of nowhere, and then a troll. Is no surprise why he got triggered and reacted the way he reacted. I think many dump and time wasting arguments could have been avoided in the last months only by careful choice of words to avoid blatant slander and to keep it strictly to the subject of the topic being discussed.

 

[Jrvan]

Hm. Calling me unintelligent, then contradicting himself by saying to not call a retard a retard, because in doing so, the name-caller would be shitting on himself. Hm. Then also saying something else about calling people retards, or not. Hm. Saying "I demand people do as I say - and enough people at that - before I share information". Hm. Others saying at first he was OK, then he started being a shit dick. Hm. I'll continue hm-ing, perhaps.

Well if you look at the comments first you called him incel and mama out of nowhere, and then a troll. Is no surprise why he got triggered and reacted the way he reacted. I think many dump and time wasting arguments could have been avoided in the last months only by careful choice of words to avoid blatant slander and to keep it strictly to the subject of the topic being discussed.

It's Mercury Retrograde now so this might end up being par for the course for a little while.

 

[SyrArisMarsMartin]

This is great advice, but I strongly disagree with crossing your arms.

Your body language shows you as defensive, while the point is to look offensive.

...

I agree with this, everytime someone crosses their arms in front of me,
it looks defensive and as if they have something to hide, or are afraid of my influence.
Just be natural, human behaviour should be natural, not forced.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

in regards to improving natal mars, that would be a spiritual square right? i thought spirituals dont require affirmations?

Yes, a spiritual square. Everything requires programming. I believe HPS Maxine was referring to using them, similar to with cleaning, how you can just use your will, rather than a full affirmation. Yet, any energy needs programming, especially if specific goals are trying to be had.

Another way to think about it: you can program it and get your result, or you can just chance it and not use an affirmation, potentially ruining it. I don't see any downside to a good affirmation.

 

[FancyMancy]

Well if you look at the comments first you called him incel and mama out of nowhere, and then a troll.

From out of nowhere? Not from after he/she/it attacked others already? Hm. Fancy that. Fancy me - fancy Fancy attacking first... Maybe my Spidey sense was tingling incorrectly. Maybe he/she/it was attacking - or "had changed" as what others said - already; the true him/her/it came out. Hm

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=352421#p352421
Out of nowhere? Yep, indeed. Hm.

 

[Jrvan]

Well if you look at the comments first you called him incel and mama out of nowhere, and then a troll.

From out of nowhere? Not from after he/she/it attacked others already? Hm. Fancy that. Fancy me - fancy Fancy attacking first... Maybe my Spidey sense was tingling incorrectly. Maybe he/she/it was attacking - or "had changed" as what others said - already; the true him/her/it came out. Hm

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=352421#p352421
Out of nowhere? Yep, indeed. Hm.

Only onions say "hm" that much. :lol:

 

[Jrvan]

__________________________________
Prepare the ground for battle

When going for negotiations, always fight on your turf and make sure to prepare the battleground.
If it's going to be a restaurant, get there a week earlier. Make the necessary reservations. Ask the staff to cut the legs of your opponent's stool so that they sit a bit lower than you do.
Ask them to make your food extra dry and pump it so it looks bigger. Ask them to serve your opponent dripping food (extra sauce) which will force them to lower their head to eat or make a mess of themselves.
Ask the staff to give bad looks to your guest and disrespect him in a subtle way.
Use every trick in the book.

I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have thought of any of that. It sounds really dirty and cutthroat though. Is this sort of thing common in the business world? If people pulled stuff like this on me then I'd probably curse them.

If I get into business and investing in the future, I think I will try to program my aura to attract straight shooters/honest men and women as business partners and whatnot. I'm not personally fond of manipulation on this level, and I couldn't bring myself to do it to someone. If I felt I had cause to be that ruthless to someone, or if I really really needed them out of my way, then I would probably do magick to sink their business or whatever.

 

[FancyMancy]

Well if you look at the comments first you called him incel and mama out of nowhere, and then a troll.

From out of nowhere? Not from after he/she/it attacked others already? Hm. Fancy that. Fancy me - fancy Fancy attacking first... Maybe my Spidey sense was tingling incorrectly. Maybe he/she/it was attacking - or "had changed" as what others said - already; the true him/her/it came out. Hm

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=352421#p352421
Out of nowhere? Yep, indeed. Hm.

Only onions say "hm" that much. :lol:

I don't know the reference or joke. Regardless, I hope I don't make anyone cry...

__________________________________
Prepare the ground for battle

When going for negotiations, always fight on your turf and make sure to prepare the battleground.
If it's going to be a restaurant, get there a week earlier. Make the necessary reservations. Ask the staff to cut the legs of your opponent's stool so that they sit a bit lower than you do.
Ask them to make your food extra dry and pump it so it looks bigger. Ask them to serve your opponent dripping food (extra sauce) which will force them to lower their head to eat or make a mess of themselves.
Ask the staff to give bad looks to your guest and disrespect him in a subtle way.
Use every trick in the book.

I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have thought of any of that. It sounds really dirty and cutthroat though. Is this sort of thing common in the business world? If people pulled stuff like this on me then I'd probably curse them.

Oh, yeah. That's great advice. A restaurant worker will do those things. If in a restaurant, you certainly would be sitting on a stool of all things. I am guessing this venture would take place in a not-McDonald's restaurant; McDonald's staff wouldn't do such things; a swanky-arsed restaurant, for a business meeting, would? Lel.

These fantasy stories are great. Really. I'll go to the second star on the straight-ahead, and straight-on 'til evening. Oh, wait a minute. I am not an actor playing a character in a Children's fantasy story... Oh, fine - back to life, back to reality, back to the here and now, yeah, show me how.

 

[Mastermind]

__________________________________
Prepare the ground for battle

When going for negotiations, always fight on your turf and make sure to prepare the battleground.
If it's going to be a restaurant, get there a week earlier. Make the necessary reservations. Ask the staff to cut the legs of your opponent's stool so that they sit a bit lower than you do.
Ask them to make your food extra dry and pump it so it looks bigger. Ask them to serve your opponent dripping food (extra sauce) which will force them to lower their head to eat or make a mess of themselves.
Ask the staff to give bad looks to your guest and disrespect him in a subtle way.
Use every trick in the book.

I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have thought of any of that. It sounds really dirty and cutthroat though. Is this sort of thing common in the business world? If people pulled stuff like this on me then I'd probably curse them.

If I get into business and investing in the future, I think I will try to program my aura to attract straight shooters/honest men and women as business partners and whatnot. I'm not personally fond of manipulation on this level, and I couldn't bring myself to do it to someone. If I felt I had cause to be that ruthless to someone, or if I really really needed them out of my way, then I would probably do magick to sink their business or whatever.

That's just scratching the surface.
Most people will cook the books in one way or another.
If someone is selling a business they will make it look like they earn more than they really do.
Here's an example : when going through the documentation of a business, I found a recently made contract with a client for a crazy amount of monthly revenue. Fortunately I caught the scam. The signature of the client started with the word Veto, which invalidates the contract. Thus the client had no obligation towards the business. The business owner could also claim plausible deniability as he could say that the client scammed him. The client can't be prosecuted for that either. If I had proceeded with the purchase, I'd be in a costly legal battle for months and probably never gotten the money back.

 

[Mastermind]

__________________________________
Prepare the ground for battle

When going for negotiations, always fight on your turf and make sure to prepare the battleground.
If it's going to be a restaurant, get there a week earlier. Make the necessary reservations. Ask the staff to cut the legs of your opponent's stool so that they sit a bit lower than you do.
Ask them to make your food extra dry and pump it so it looks bigger. Ask them to serve your opponent dripping food (extra sauce) which will force them to lower their head to eat or make a mess of themselves.
Ask the staff to give bad looks to your guest and disrespect him in a subtle way.
Use every trick in the book.

I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have thought of any of that. It sounds really dirty and cutthroat though. Is this sort of thing common in the business world? If people pulled stuff like this on me then I'd probably curse them.

If I get into business and investing in the future, I think I will try to program my aura to attract straight shooters/honest men and women as business partners and whatnot. I'm not personally fond of manipulation on this level, and I couldn't bring myself to do it to someone. If I felt I had cause to be that ruthless to someone, or if I really really needed them out of my way, then I would probably do magick to sink their business or whatever.

Unfortunately ones has to go through all the records and contracts himself. If you outsource it to a lawyer, he could team up with the other party in order to fuck you.

 

[Jrvan]

From out of nowhere? Not from after he/she/it attacked others already? Hm. Fancy that. Fancy me - fancy Fancy attacking first... Maybe my Spidey sense was tingling incorrectly. Maybe he/she/it was attacking - or "had changed" as what others said - already; the true him/her/it came out. Hm

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Out of nowhere? Yep, indeed. Hm.

Only onions say "hm" that much. :lol:

I don't know the reference or joke. Regardless, I hope I don't make anyone cry...

:lol:

If you're curious, it's from the Dark Souls games. The games are very, very jewish in nature so I wouldn't recommend playing or watching them, like ever, but some of the in crowd humor is amusing.

I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have thought of any of that. It sounds really dirty and cutthroat though. Is this sort of thing common in the business world? If people pulled stuff like this on me then I'd probably curse them.

Oh, yeah. That's great advice. A restaurant worker will do those things. If in a restaurant, you certainly would be sitting on a stool of all things. I am guessing this venture would take place in a not-McDonald's restaurant; McDonald's staff wouldn't do such things; a swanky-arsed restaurant, for a business meeting, would? Lel.

These fantasy stories are great. Really. I'll go to the second star on the straight-ahead, and straight-on 'til evening. Oh, wait a minute. I am not an actor playing a character in a Children's fantasy story... Oh, fine - back to life, back to reality, back to the here and now, yeah, show me how.

What's all of this about mcdonalds? :lol:

You have to realize that many people will agree to do things for you if you give them money. A staff member doesn't own the company, they only work there, so they are more likely to accept bribes. That's usually how it works. Most people have a price, sadly. Then there's stubborn guys like me who will turn bribes down on principle even if they offered me the national coffers. I would rather take than be bought because then I'm not selling out my own will, but rather using my own will to get what they offered me in the first place without doing their dirty work for them. Punishing bribers like that sounds fun.

 

[tabby]

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Oh, yeah. That's great advice. A restaurant worker will do those things. If in a restaurant, you certainly would be sitting on a stool of all things. I am guessing this venture would take place in a not-McDonald's restaurant; McDonald's staff wouldn't do such things; a swanky-arsed restaurant, for a business meeting, would? Lel.
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Pretty sure most of the Big M's chairs are either metal or bolted to the floor, anyway. :lol:

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

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Prepare the ground for battle

When going for negotiations, always fight on your turf and make sure to prepare the battleground.
If it's going to be a restaurant, get there a week earlier. Make the necessary reservations. Ask the staff to cut the legs of your opponent's stool so that they sit a bit lower than you do.
Ask them to make your food extra dry and pump it so it looks bigger. Ask them to serve your opponent dripping food (extra sauce) which will force them to lower their head to eat or make a mess of themselves.
Ask the staff to give bad looks to your guest and disrespect him in a subtle way.
Use every trick in the book.

I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have thought of any of that. It sounds really dirty and cutthroat though. Is this sort of thing common in the business world? If people pulled stuff like this on me then I'd probably curse them.

If I get into business and investing in the future, I think I will try to program my aura to attract straight shooters/honest men and women as business partners and whatnot. I'm not personally fond of manipulation on this level, and I couldn't bring myself to do it to someone. If I felt I had cause to be that ruthless to someone, or if I really really needed them out of my way, then I would probably do magick to sink their business or whatever.

If one lets such immature tactics influence them, or influence their business dealings, they really aren't suited to do business whatsoever.

Hypothetically someone "uses every trick in the book", and proceeds to laugh at their "guest" for it, to humiliate them, etc, what would this really accomplish anyway?

To feel humiliated is a personal choice at the end of the day. Tactics like this may only work if your guest desperately needs a business deal more than you, and thus one can push them around.

If they aren't desperate for it, it won't do anything as they can just get up and leave without saying a word, leaving you hanging and looking like a buffoon.

The most important thing in any dealing with another person, is to never come across as if you are desperate for it, or need it more than them, but that it is your choice to be there and that it makes no difference to you whether you walk away with nothing or with an agreeable deal.

One must always know what they want from another person, and never let anyone else push you around for it.

Stand in your own shoes, let people act like the clowns they are by using their little beta business tactics, when the talks are about to begin give them a gesture with your gaze "and what of it?" Conveying to the other party you are exactly aware of their little clown tactics, and that it changes nothing.

Or just get up and leave just as they are about to get into the meat of the issue after all the bravado is over. Tell them "If you're serious about discussing a dealing with me, you know where to reach me", get up and leave calmly, without looking back at them or saying another word.

Chances are, if someone is lacking in confidence to have to clown around like this in order to try and position themselves in an advantageous position over you, they are the ones who care about face and humiliation, and who will feel the hurt for days to come after you handle them like that, while you go on with your life unbothered as you were.


Taking initiative, not letting others walk over you, being confident and knowing what you want out of an interaction before you get into it are more important than any such little "cutthroat" tactics.

Whether you are the one humiliated, or they are, depends entirely on how you receive the attempted humiliation of another.


Hail Satan!