Lost Job opportunity due to my honest point of view about not being Vaccinated.

[Hornet666]

So as the title sates:

I applied for a Job opportunity here in Australia involving a non-for profit organisation which deals with wide a range of mens issues in the construction and mining industries. The core issue that this organisation helps deal with is Suicide.The role was a support worker type role helping implement strategies and support guidelines in Suicide prevention in the Construction & mining sector.As the suicides rates here in the Australian industry are astronomically high. With current statistics showing a employees taking their own lives every second day.

My first interview went very well with the company recruitment officer, out of this first interview phase i was successfully shortlisted out of hundreds of candidates to the top 4 candidate list. I was even told that i was a really strong candidate for the role and a real "stand-out" in comparisons to other applicants based on my extensive experience, personality, and knowledge regarding the role. At this point i was even told that my work references and testimonials from former employers were "Glowing" and very "inspiring" and "positive". So after this discussion i was told that i would have a final interview with the CEO of the company and also the General Manager of the company. Then from that interview stage afterwards that i would be informed whether i was successful for the role or not.

So a week later It finally came to my final interview phase. With both the CEO and General Manager of the company. I did a bit of a quick background research on the company itself beforehand. I was wanting to find out if the company itself was receiving its funding via private charity organisations or the Government itself. I wanted to understand where they were going to get the money from to pay my salary if i got the job. Its interesting because i actually asked this question in the first interview phase. And i was told "no no no the Money is heavily invested privately from charity groups". "The Government doesnt put anything towards the organisation".

So on the Final interview day, I had my interview it went really well for most part of the interview. I was feeling pretty confident and i was getting a good response and reaction from the Interviewers. I felt that i had made a really great impression on both of them.Then things began to take its turn, Things started to become very clear to me right at the end of the interview. When i was given the chance to ask questions. I asked that same question again. "Where does this organisation receive their funding from?"..."Private entities[as stated on the website] or Government?"...The main reason why I asked was because when organisations receive funding from Government grants and revenue streams. The business itself has to participate in strict Adherence to government guidelines and policies. They make slaves out of their employees to kiss the current Governments arse out of obedience. In order for them to obtain further funding from Government policy makers. So in order by doing so when a new Government comes into power. They can show that they kissed enough arse of the previous Governments. In order to be granted continued/more funding from the next Government who gets voted in.

his reply " ummm thats a very good question?"..."95% of our business funding comes directly from Government" "we work in conjunction with the Government as we have strict poilicies to follow and adhear to"..."We have sales Officers who go out into the field who look for new business leads and look for stakeholders who want to invest also with us!"...So i thought to myself this does not sit well with me. They already collect millions of dollars in tax payers money for this, 95% apparently.
Then they are sending people out doorknocking and begging for a handout to potential Stakeholders of corporate business to invest more into it. This seemed a little bit weird to me. And i could sense he was a bit taken back by the question. Straight after this question I thought the interview was going to end.

He then quickly regathered himself. And then said to me "im going to change one of my questions i was going to ask you!"

"how do you feel about covid?" "Are you looking to be Vaccinated if you are successful for the role?"..."what is your point of view?"

my response:

"To be quite honest with you sir, I am unvacinated. This does not mean that i am an Anti-vaxx person. I am in alot of uncertainty over it at the moment. I am still learning and researching on my own to really understand what this virus really is about. I want to learn as much as possible from multiple sources other than the facts and evidence that the Government is presenting through main stream medias. I am physically fit and i eat clean. I also take multivitamins daily and i exercise with my current yoga routine. I havent had any illness/injury in the the last 10 years. And i have not had a cold or Flu for 15 years, since i changed my diet and health regime. So im still in a phase of learning and researching on my own, before i decide to make an informed decision. I dont understand or believe in putting foreign substances or toxins into my healthy body to fight off a virus, when i have never ever had to do that in my past at all!. The most recent news article I read prior to this inteview. Was of a E News celebrity in America who was double vaccinated. A family member of hers fell ill with Covid symptoms.She helped care for this family member during the time she was feeling ill. So she thought that because she was double vaccinated. She would be immune to all the symptoms. It turns out that she contracted Covid herself. Even being double vaccinated and she had a mask on inside her house, this story itself shows she had no defence at all from the virus while being vaccinated. The family member was unvaccinated. Her doctor even told her that she could have passed on the virus to her family member also. So I am still trying to understand and get to the very core of this whole pandemic"

He Replied " Well thanks for that, I appreciate your honesty!". "we'll be in contact with you shortly to let you know if you were successful or not....its been a pleasure to meet you!..you are real interesting person to meet today"..."thankyou!"

Judging from his response and his Aura. I knew as soon as replied to that question. I was not going to be given the job. I just felt that i was too straight forward, direct and brutally honest. This trait can be considered to be a strength in some peoples eyes...and a weakness in others.

Well i didnt get the job...

the feedback was :

"They were looking for somebody that was on point with COVID. As you would be dealing with alot of clients face to face. Alot of presenting to large groups and interactions with employees and their employers from multiple worksites. This is what gave the successful candidate the edge over your application!."

So according to that statement, I missed out on the Job because i was honest with how I felt about the vaccine and COVID. So this is what the WORKFORCE has come to here in Australia. I will NEVER change who I am in order to become vaccinated just to be in obedience to obtain employment. I didnt feel disheartened at all that i didnt get the job. I took it as "If Father SATAN and my Guardian Daemon thought that was a safe path for a Satanist like me to be on...they would have made it happen and i would have gone down that path". So i thought about it. And thanked them for opening my eyes to the situation. Had i Been successful with this company. Its highly likely that i would have no doubt been manipulated & co-erced into being Vaccinated in order to fulfill work duties and obligations for this organisation.

So...I am unemployed. And I am currently receiving guidance from Father Satan to navigate around this terrible time. I am now strongly considering starting my own business working from home instead.I just dont see any hope working for somebody else during this time without being asked to be tested or be vaccinated. It seems that this is where the current Workforce is heading at this point based on my interview experience. Starting my own business this to me seems more of a safer route to be on. Where is i can run my own business from home, work my own hours, and have no Manager or boss telling me that i have to be vaccinated in order to keep my employment.

So thanks to you all who have read my story this far. The thing is Father Satan and the Gods want you as Satanists to learn to think for yourselves. And not to constantly cry out for answers when you believe that you arent getting the oportunities you so desperately want come your way.Things dont work out for a reason and sometimes we as Satanists dont seem to see or understand these reasons.
They dont let you fail or miss out on something because you thought "ohhh it must be because i didnt do enough meditation last night or I didnt ask the Gods to please give me the job. Or maybe i should ive done Satans prayer invocation, so he can sit beside me in my interview and ace all the questions for me while i sit back and chill!"...NO!!, They want you to learn, spiritually grow and experience things for yourself..But always remember they are always there guiding you. Whether your new to Satanism or an experienced Advanced Satanist. Whether you can sense them around or not they are always there guiding you, and protecting you. In my case i was being protected. I have no job but I understand its for the reasons i stated above. I am content..I am Happy and i am greatful to learn and understand that better...safer endeavours are around the corner for me. I love my Satanic life and its these strong foundations that will keep me alive and safe during this time. I feel for those who are Without Satans protection. As these types would have crumbled into a shitpile by now in my current situation.

So I would like to Take this opportunity, to publicly thank Father Satan, Lucifuge Rofocale & Agares. For their Patience, Guidance and Protection with me. And im excited about the next phase on my path that they have for me!

HAIL SATAN!

HAIL LUCIFUGE ROFOCALE!

HAIL AGARES!

 

[Eric13]

Look, let this be a learning experience. In this life, with the way things are, sometimes you have to tell people what they want to hear. That’s just the way it is. You don’t have to wear your beliefs on your sleeve. This will cost you as you have now seen.

For instance there was a really great volunteer opportunity presented to me recently that I wanted to be apart of. They’re strict on vaccines to join. They asked me if I was vaccinated. I said yes, even though I’m not. They said, “Great!” And I'm on the team and it’s a great learning opportunity for me. This is just general wisdom. You have to know when to keep things to yourself and when to tell people what they want to hear. There’s no shame. It’s self preservation and it’s wisdom that comes from Satan.

“Do not list my name nor my attributes, for you do not know what those without will do.” - Satan.

Good luck in the future.

 

[CrossRoadsPedestrian]

small local businesses will be the only ones who dont care about vaccines. Corporations and non profits are totally jew owned

thanks for sticking up for the truth. without people like you (who stand up against retardation) this world it would be in a much worse situation

 

[SouthernWhiteGentile]

Your mistake was being wordy about it. NPCs don’t want to hear “I’m not vaccinated or anti vaccine because blah blah blah blah.” Keep it simple. A long response just makes them think you are unhinged. When anyone asks me about vaccination I say “I don’t need it” and it usually ends there. Everyone thinks that they are going to be the crusader that can change the mind of NPCs by talking about vitamins and MRNA. THEY DON’T CARE and it only makes you look worse.

 

[Hornet666]

Look, let this be a learning experience. In this life, with the way things are, sometimes you have to tell people what they want to hear. That’s just the way it is. You don’t have to wear your beliefs on your sleeve. This will cost you as you have now seen.

For instance there was a really great volunteer opportunity presented to me recently that I wanted to be apart of. They’re strict on vaccines to join. They asked me if I was vaccinated. I said yes, even though I’m not. They said, “Great!” And I'm on the team and it’s a great learning opportunity for me. This is just general wisdom. You have to know when to keep things to yourself and when to tell people what they want to hear. There’s no shame. It’s self preservation and it’s wisdom that comes from Satan.

“Do not list my name nor my attributes, for you do not know what those without will do.” - Satan.

Good luck in the future.

I fully understand where your coming from. But i would be very careful in your position. How long do you think you will be able to keep this Lie going for??...Before they start putting pressure on you to prove that you are vaccinated. Just think about it for a minute. What do you think these types of businesses will do to somebody that has been dishonest with them??.They may make up all kinds of crazy shit about you, and could potentially set you up to be destroyed. They could even turn you into a front page story for the Media circus.

Imagine the headline.."Volunteer worker lied about being Vaccinated and gave Covid to his Colleagues and Clients".

Im not trying to say what you have done is the right or wrong thing to do. But in my case I did think about bullshitting and saying i was vaccinated. But I knew in doing so, somewhere down the line i would probably be found out. And probably subjected to forced testing & Vaccination for being dishonest. I did not want to put myself in that situation.

The police here in Australia are already following people while out driving. Pulling them over for no apparent reason. Then telling them that they have to Go to the hospital. And from there its obvious what happens next!. I have a former work colleague of mine, who was subjected to this treatment. He was pulled over a few days ago by police.He was fit and healthy and had no symptoms at all. They pulled him out of his car, then ordered him to come with them to the nearest hospital. He refused. He resisted arrest. He was handcuffed and taken to the nearest hospital and then forced to take a test. He is still in police custody somewhere. And i believe they are holding him there until they get the results back. Then its highly likely they will bullshit and say he has Covid and then will probably force it on him. I am still waiting for an update on his situation. It seems to me that they have people they are targeting here.

Here is a video of somebody else here in Australia being pulled over by police and ordered to go to Hospital:

https://worldtruthvideos.website/watch/australian-police-abducting-people-off-the-streets-and-forcing-them-to-get-vaccinated-in-hospitals_VYVRX4RtLiWkuSw.html

 

[Hornet666]

thanks for sticking up for the truth. without people like you (who stand up against retardation) this world it would be in a much worse situation

Thanks mate!. I am trying to avoid any company or business who is in support of the Vaccine. Its sucks because it narrows my options down. I have worked my whole life and I have never been un-employed before. I left my last job because we were told that there would be no point coming back to work if we hadnt made plans already to be vaccinated. And because of the industry i work in i was regarded as a "Essential" worker.

Every working week for the past month My boss urged any employee of the company who hadnt been vaccinated had to go get tested every 3 days, we had to show paperwork also so that we could come into work. My boss would also ask once a week "Have you booked your Vaccination yet?". "when are you getting it done?"..."your the only person who hasnt booked in yet!"..I was running out of excuses. I worked 10-12 hours a day 5-6 days a week. Every time Ive had to go to get tested Ive had to wait hours before being tested.
I dont get paid for this bullshit. And i was required to do it all in my own time!. I got tired of this Shit!.. So out of frustration I thought fuck it!, I dont need this job anymore. Its not worth it!.

I can see what they are doing here In Australia. They shutting all small businesses down who are likely to resist the Covid Mandate. And the businesses and corporations who are in Comlpiance with it, Remain open. Making it hard for Job seekers to find businesses/work where the Vaccine isnt pushed onto employees.
I think starting up my own business working from home is probably my best and safest option. Its quite difficult while there is alot of restrictions in place. I just couldnt carry on with the Regular testing required in my last job. And kind of knew that It wont be long before being forced to take the Vaccine just to work there. And the way my boss was behaving towards me for not being vaccinated by trying to guilt trip me was enough for me to walk out. Im pretty confident in my experience and skillsets so i think doing a small business from home will probably suit me just fine instead!

 

[Hornet666]

Your mistake was being wordy about it. NPCs don’t want to hear “I’m not vaccinated or anti vaccine because blah blah blah blah.” Keep it simple. A long response just makes them think you are unhinged. When anyone asks me about vaccination I say “I don’t need it” and it usually ends there. Everyone thinks that they are going to be the crusader that can change the mind of NPCs by talking about vitamins and MRNA. THEY DON’T CARE and it only makes you look worse.

Yeah i realise that. Its a shame to see how too far gone people are in todays society with this Covid Nonsense. It was probably better off for me that I didnt get to work at this place. I have also just found out today also that my sister in Laws first cousin took the Astra Zaneca Jab last saturday 31st july. Sadly She died from major blood clotting caused by the vaccine on wednesday 4th of August. She was 34 years old. She was fit and healthy also. And it was her first Dose of the Vaccine. This Shit is pretty serious!..This is the first person that I know of personally that has died from this!. It is only going to get worse .

 

[Eric13]

Look, let this be a learning experience. In this life, with the way things are, sometimes you have to tell people what they want to hear. That’s just the way it is. You don’t have to wear your beliefs on your sleeve. This will cost you as you have now seen.

For instance there was a really great volunteer opportunity presented to me recently that I wanted to be apart of. They’re strict on vaccines to join. They asked me if I was vaccinated. I said yes, even though I’m not. They said, “Great!” And I'm on the team and it’s a great learning opportunity for me. This is just general wisdom. You have to know when to keep things to yourself and when to tell people what they want to hear. There’s no shame. It’s self preservation and it’s wisdom that comes from Satan.

“Do not list my name nor my attributes, for you do not know what those without will do.” - Satan.

Good luck in the future.

I fully understand where your coming from. But i would be very careful in your position. How long do you think you will be able to keep this Lie going for??...Before they start putting pressure on you to prove that you are vaccinated. Just think about it for a minute. What do you think these types of businesses will do to somebody that has been dishonest with them??.They may make up all kinds of crazy shit about you, and could potentially set you up to be destroyed. They could even turn you into a front page story for the Media circus.

Imagine the headline.."Volunteer worker lied about being Vaccinated and gave Covid to his Colleagues and Clients".

Im not trying to say what you have done is the right or wrong thing to do. But in my case I did think about bullshitting and saying i was vaccinated. But I knew in doing so, somewhere down the line i would probably be found out. And probably subjected to forced testing & Vaccination for being dishonest. I did not want to put myself in that situation.

The police here in Australia are already following people while out driving. Pulling them over for no apparent reason. Then telling them that they have to Go to the hospital. And from there its obvious what happens next!. I have a former work colleague of mine, who was subjected to this treatment. He was pulled over a few days ago by police.He was fit and healthy and had no symptoms at all. They pulled him out of his car, then ordered him to come with them to the nearest hospital. He refused. He resisted arrest. He was handcuffed and taken to the nearest hospital and then forced to take a test. He is still in police custody somewhere. And i believe they are holding him there until they get the results back. Then its highly likely they will bullshit and say he has Covid and then will probably force it on him. I am still waiting for an update on his situation. It seems to me that they have people they are targeting here.

Here is a video of somebody else here in Australia being pulled over by police and ordered to go to Hospital:

https://worldtruthvideos.website/watch/australian-police-abducting-people-off-the-streets-and-forcing-them-to-get-vaccinated-in-hospitals_VYVRX4RtLiWkuSw.html

Well you can still get covid if you’re vaccinated, so I’m not worried about that. Something people have to learn is reading a situation and reading people. With that you can make informed decisions. I know how to handle myself, so I don’t worry about such things. It’s very hard for someone to play me at this point. If they try to do that they’ll likely end up playing themselves and you know why? Because people like us have wisdom. We have experience. This makes a difference. People like them clearly don’t, hence why they push the vaccine. So that gives us an upper hand, but still a person must be wise and read a situation.

As far as how long can you keep a lie or secret going? Well I’ve been a Satanist for over 10 years. When I was young I would sometimes tell people. I ended up getting kicked out of my home and sent to the streets in the middle of winter because of it. This is why I put that quote by Satan. He warns us of putting our beliefs out there like that for a reason. It can be genuinely dangerous and even ruin opportunities. So I keep the fact that I’m a Satanist a secret. Again, it’s about reading people. To some people I say I’m unreligious. To others I say I’m Pagan. I make a judgement after feeling people out, but I never tell them the whole truth. This is for our safety that we must be this way.

The last thing I’ll say on this we must learn to choose our battles. It’s of little use debating and battling individuals we come across in our life. As people don’t easily change their minds. We’re all passionate about this stuff, but the best use of our time is online activism and spiritual warfare. This is the most efficient way to express our anger and frustration over this stuff. Otherwise we unfortunately have to make our selves blend in when we’re out in the world.

 

[Sunny]

Look, let this be a learning experience. In this life, with the way things are, sometimes you have to tell people what they want to hear. That’s just the way it is. You don’t have to wear your beliefs on your sleeve. This will cost you as you have now seen.

For instance there was a really great volunteer opportunity presented to me recently that I wanted to be apart of. They’re strict on vaccines to join. They asked me if I was vaccinated. I said yes, even though I’m not. They said, “Great!” And I'm on the team and it’s a great learning opportunity for me. This is just general wisdom. You have to know when to keep things to yourself and when to tell people what they want to hear. There’s no shame. It’s self preservation and it’s wisdom that comes from Satan.

“Do not list my name nor my attributes, for you do not know what those without will do.” - Satan.

Good luck in the future.

I fully understand where your coming from. But i would be very careful in your position. How long do you think you will be able to keep this Lie going for??...Before they start putting pressure on you to prove that you are vaccinated. Just think about it for a minute. What do you think these types of businesses will do to somebody that has been dishonest with them??.They may make up all kinds of crazy shit about you, and could potentially set you up to be destroyed. They could even turn you into a front page story for the Media circus.

Imagine the headline.."Volunteer worker lied about being Vaccinated and gave Covid to his Colleagues and Clients".

Im not trying to say what you have done is the right or wrong thing to do. But in my case I did think about bullshitting and saying i was vaccinated. But I knew in doing so, somewhere down the line i would probably be found out. And probably subjected to forced testing & Vaccination for being dishonest. I did not want to put myself in that situation.

The police here in Australia are already following people while out driving. Pulling them over for no apparent reason. Then telling them that they have to Go to the hospital. And from there its obvious what happens next!. I have a former work colleague of mine, who was subjected to this treatment. He was pulled over a few days ago by police.He was fit and healthy and had no symptoms at all. They pulled him out of his car, then ordered him to come with them to the nearest hospital. He refused. He resisted arrest. He was handcuffed and taken to the nearest hospital and then forced to take a test. He is still in police custody somewhere. And i believe they are holding him there until they get the results back. Then its highly likely they will bullshit and say he has Covid and then will probably force it on him. I am still waiting for an update on his situation. It seems to me that they have people they are targeting here.

Here is a video of somebody else here in Australia being pulled over by police and ordered to go to Hospital:

https://worldtruthvideos.website/watch/australian-police-abducting-people-off-the-streets-and-forcing-them-to-get-vaccinated-in-hospitals_VYVRX4RtLiWkuSw.html

Well you can still get covid if you’re vaccinated, so I’m not worried about that. Something people have to learn is reading a situation and reading people. With that you can make informed decisions. I know how to handle myself, so I don’t worry about such things. It’s very hard for someone to play me at this point. If they try to do that they’ll likely end up playing themselves and you know why? Because people like us have wisdom. We have experience. This makes a difference. People like them clearly don’t, hence why they push the vaccine. So that gives us an upper hand, but still a person must be wise and read a situation.

As far as how long can you keep a lie or secret going? Well I’ve been a Satanist for over 10 years. When I was young I would sometimes tell people. I ended up getting kicked out of my home and sent to the streets in the middle of winter because of it. This is why I put that quote by Satan. He warns us of putting our beliefs out there like that for a reason. It can be genuinely dangerous and even ruin opportunities. So I keep the fact that I’m a Satanist a secret. Again, it’s about reading people. To some people I say I’m unreligious. To others I say I’m Pagan. I make a judgement after feeling people out, but I never tell them the whole truth. This is for our safety that we must be this way.

The last thing I’ll say on this we must learn to choose our battles. It’s of little use debating and battling individuals we come across in our life. As people don’t easily change their minds. We’re all passionate about this stuff, but the best use of our time is online activism and spiritual warfare. This is the most efficient way to express our anger and frustration over this stuff. Otherwise we unfortunately have to make our selves blend in when we’re out in the world.

How are you brother? Have you improved and settled your life, work and home?

 

[Sunny]

We may not have a choice, they are trying to make it mandatory not only for work but for other aspects of life.

The vaccine might be useless for health and might be used mostly for political purposes but hopefully at least it won't be harmful to health.

We should not give it to the enemy but we have to live. Living with the enemy is the worst thing that could happen to us but we have no other choice. Remember that this war is destined to last a long time, there will be wins and losses but the important thing is the end result.

 

[Sunny]

To clarify, so-called mRNA vaccines are not vaccines but an entirely different medicine. Vaccine is a medicine containing the whole virus weakened or killed.

I would recommend you the old method of vaccine i.e. the real vaccine, this is very tested and applied but it does not offer much safety because let's say that very good and safe resources are not used for its creation. Obviously, it is as useful as the flu vaccine but it will be fine for bureaucratic purposes.

This is a lying world because it is ruled by liars but I would still advise against faking the covid issue. Obviously, those who can do it safely, let them do it but I don't know how possible it will be because they are linking IDs to this.

Also, for the future they are planning to use spy chips on the skin to verify things. You can fake IDs but not the chips or rather the body.

It would be scary to say the least if Satan left us in the hands of this monster.

Know that we are winning, none of this would come out in the open if it didn't and much more evil would have manifested from the hands of the enemy.

Hail Satan Forever!

 

[Eric13]

...

How are you brother? Have you improved and settled your life, work and home?

Hey! Thanks for asking, I’m doing very well, thanks to guidance from the gods during my hard times. Still much hard work ahead, but I’ve failed so much in life and now am at a point where all of the lessons from those failures have put me in a different zone.

Persistence, focus, honesty with ones self, along with self belief and courage= wins.

 

[Sunny]

...

How are you brother? Have you improved and settled your life, work and home?

Hey! Thanks for asking, I’m doing very well, thanks to guidance from the gods during my hard times. Still much hard work ahead, but I’ve failed so much in life and now am at a point where all of the lessons from those failures have put me in a different zone.

Persistence, focus, honesty with ones self, along with self belief and courage= wins.

Glad you are doing well, good luck in your life and take care.

 

[Sunny]

It should be noted that Astrazeneca and Janssen (the non-mRNA vaccines) claim to the inject the exact same genetic instructions as Pfizer and Moderna, the mRNA vaccines. Namely, "make a SARS-CoV-2 spike protein". This wasn't immediately apparent to me when first looking into it, but the only differences are in the delivery method and the way it's produced. mRNA is made using some form biochemical printing and is immediately translated into proteins once it enters a cell. The two non-mRNA vaccines use a genetically modified, unrelated virus that is unable to replicate itself, but is able to inject DNA in the cell nucleus that will cause it to produce RNA with the instruction to produce spike proteins until the cell dies and bursts. mRNA needs to be cooled when stored because it's less stable than the modified adenovirus used for the non-mRNA vaccines.

The Russian vaccine Sputnik V also uses the modified adenovirus. China produces some vaccines, most of them new and more advanced, but also produces a vaccine with the weakened virus.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoronaVac

Are mRNA vaccines or modified adenovirus used as a vector safer?

 

[Fuchs]

It should be noted that Astrazeneca and Janssen (the non-mRNA vaccines) claim to the inject the exact same genetic instructions as Pfizer and Moderna, the mRNA vaccines. Namely, "make a SARS-CoV-2 spike protein". This wasn't immediately apparent to me when first looking into it, but the only differences are in the delivery method and the way it's produced. mRNA is made using some form biochemical printing and is immediately translated into proteins once it enters a cell. The two non-mRNA vaccines use a genetically modified, unrelated virus that is unable to replicate itself, but is able to inject DNA in the cell nucleus that will cause it to produce RNA with the instruction to produce spike proteins until the cell dies and bursts. mRNA needs to be cooled when stored because it's less stable than the modified adenovirus used for the non-mRNA vaccines.

The Russian vaccine Sputnik V also uses the modified adenovirus. China produces some vaccines, most of them new and more advanced, but also produces a vaccine with the weakened virus.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoronaVac

Are mRNA vaccines or modified adenovirus used as a vector safer?

I've seen that side effects such as fatigue were usually more prevalent and longer lasting with mRNA vaccines. On the other hand, there's the unusually high risk of blood clots with the adenovirus approach (about 1:100000); I've heard some cases of this happening with mRNA vaccines as well, but not as much. This could mean that blood clots are relatively more common with the adenovirus vaccines, but it could also mean that the manufacturers of the mRNA vaccines did a better job at hiding the numbers so that they would be able to gain an advantage over their competitors and make more money. Regardless, most governments recommend Astrazeneca or Janssen for older people and Pfizer or Moderna for young people, as these are said to have a relatively lower death rate from complications for the respective age groups, with old people being more susceptible to succumbing from the fatigue caused by the mRNA vaccines as it seems to strain the immune system for a longer duration (a bit over a week on average).

The weakened virus vaccine from China sounds interesting; I wonder if it will be effective. But I was just thinking how ridiculous the situation has been so far. There's a virus going around that can sometimes severely affect people at random, so governments decide to recklessly put the entire world into lockdown? Then people go mad from all the restrictions, so there is a rush to make a vaccine to end it all, instead of creating medicine to treat the minority that becomes sick? Experimental vaccines are the first to seem promising, so people are pressured to get them ASAP regardless of any of their concerns so that the restrictions they're so sick of can be lifted? But they're not 100% reliable, so the lockdown and restrictions continue, and now many people are even more frustrated?

There's currently a study being done about the negative effects on mental health caused by the lockdown and related restrictions. Depending on the results, it could be used as leverage to dissuade governments from going to such extremes again in the future. However, it's going to take some time to collect the data, and analysing and reviewing it all can be a lengthy process too. It could be years before we see any of that. Even so, I hope that society learns from this and doesn't fall into such a downward spiral again.

There's been a lot of over-the-top fearmongering these days, which can easily be refuted if you look up more recent research, and I'm sure our enemies are liking that just as much as all the other harm caused by the situation. It makes many of the people who are at least able to see how things don't add up in regards to how governments handled this, into paranoid lunatics that are still failing to see what all of this is really about, and are instead obsessing over whatever spicy doomsday story they heard last week. What a waste.

If people stopped obsessing so much about the overblown dangers of the virus and the vaccines, then perhaps they would be able to see that the real problem is how their rights were violated and that they've been unjustly imprisoned in their own homes based on government decisions that are so insensible, that it would be delusional at this point to assume it isn't all just part of some agenda.

Guys the JNWO want you to be vaxxed/marked/labeled, if you agree, you give them full permission over your body/live.
They can change the future shots the way they please, here is a longer rant from me about it:

https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=61236&start=50

 

[Sunny]

It should be noted that Astrazeneca and Janssen (the non-mRNA vaccines) claim to the inject the exact same genetic instructions as Pfizer and Moderna, the mRNA vaccines. Namely, "make a SARS-CoV-2 spike protein". This wasn't immediately apparent to me when first looking into it, but the only differences are in the delivery method and the way it's produced. mRNA is made using some form biochemical printing and is immediately translated into proteins once it enters a cell. The two non-mRNA vaccines use a genetically modified, unrelated virus that is unable to replicate itself, but is able to inject DNA in the cell nucleus that will cause it to produce RNA with the instruction to produce spike proteins until the cell dies and bursts. mRNA needs to be cooled when stored because it's less stable than the modified adenovirus used for the non-mRNA vaccines.

The Russian vaccine Sputnik V also uses the modified adenovirus. China produces some vaccines, most of them new and more advanced, but also produces a vaccine with the weakened virus.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoronaVac

Are mRNA vaccines or modified adenovirus used as a vector safer?

I've seen that side effects such as fatigue were usually more prevalent and longer lasting with mRNA vaccines. On the other hand, there's the unusually high risk of blood clots with the adenovirus approach (about 1:100000); I've heard some cases of this happening with mRNA vaccines as well, but not as much. This could mean that blood clots are relatively more common with the adenovirus vaccines, but it could also mean that the manufacturers of the mRNA vaccines did a better job at hiding the numbers so that they would be able to gain an advantage over their competitors and make more money. Regardless, most governments recommend Astrazeneca or Janssen for older people and Pfizer or Moderna for young people, as these are said to have a relatively lower death rate from complications for the respective age groups, with old people being more susceptible to succumbing from the fatigue caused by the mRNA vaccines as it seems to strain the immune system for a longer duration (a bit over a week on average).

The weakened virus vaccine from China sounds interesting; I wonder if it will be effective. But I was just thinking how ridiculous the situation has been so far. There's a virus going around that can sometimes severely affect people at random, so governments decide to recklessly put the entire world into lockdown? Then people go mad from all the restrictions, so there is a rush to make a vaccine to end it all, instead of creating medicine to treat the minority that becomes sick? Experimental vaccines are the first to seem promising, so people are pressured to get them ASAP regardless of any of their concerns so that the restrictions they're so sick of can be lifted? But they're not 100% reliable, so the lockdown and restrictions continue, and now many people are even more frustrated?

There's currently a study being done about the negative effects on mental health caused by the lockdown and related restrictions. Depending on the results, it could be used as leverage to dissuade governments from going to such extremes again in the future. However, it's going to take some time to collect the data, and analysing and reviewing it all can be a lengthy process too. It could be years before we see any of that. Even so, I hope that society learns from this and doesn't fall into such a downward spiral again.

There's been a lot of over-the-top fearmongering these days, which can easily be refuted if you look up more recent research, and I'm sure our enemies are liking that just as much as all the other harm caused by the situation. It makes many of the people who are at least able to see how things don't add up in regards to how governments handled this, into paranoid lunatics that are still failing to see what all of this is really about, and are instead obsessing over whatever spicy doomsday story they heard last week. What a waste.

If people stopped obsessing so much about the overblown dangers of the virus and the vaccines, then perhaps they would be able to see that the real problem is how their rights were violated and that they've been unjustly imprisoned in their own homes based on government decisions that are so insensible, that it would be delusional at this point to assume it isn't all just part of some agenda.

China has said that the new vaccines are more effective. In my opinion, not even the new vaccines will stop the covid, it seems to be fooling them by mutating. It will be necessary to create a stronger and more effective medicine but this will not happen soon for the well-known reasons.

 

[Hornet666]

The vaccine might be useless for health and might be used mostly for political purposes but hopefully at least it won't be harmful to health.

I simply do not understand what you are trying to say here!. "Useless" and "harmful" being used in the same sentence is all i understand and got from it!.

I would recommend you the old method of vaccine i.e. the real vaccine, this is very tested and applied but it does not offer much safety because let's say that very good and safe resources are not used for its creation.

What on earth is the "Real Vaccine"??....do you have any data, research or links & legitimate testimonies to support your statements??...Have you gone and taken this yourself?? why would you recommend something and then follow it up with the statement "does not offer much safety because....". I really cant take you seriously right now.

The weakened virus vaccine from China sounds interesting; I wonder if it will be effective.

I DONT & WOULDNT trust anything coming out of communist china. Im sorry to say but that is just plain Retarded to me.

Thats like saying "the chinese have developed a new way to save money on electricity bills..just stick a fork in any electrical socket, your bills will be cut in half!... very interesting i might try that!"

Dont make recommendations if you are uncertain about things...Enjoy the very little freedom you still have left in your country. In my Country it is become very serious. So enjoy being able to go to a beach or a park for leisure. I dont have that luxury here. We have our backs against the wall here!...this is some serious shit going on!.

 

[Sunny]

The Russian vaccine Sputnik V also uses the modified adenovirus. China produces some vaccines, most of them new and more advanced, but also produces a vaccine with the weakened virus.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoronaVac

Are mRNA vaccines or modified adenovirus used as a vector safer?

I've seen that side effects such as fatigue were usually more prevalent and longer lasting with mRNA vaccines. On the other hand, there's the unusually high risk of blood clots with the adenovirus approach (about 1:100000); I've heard some cases of this happening with mRNA vaccines as well, but not as much. This could mean that blood clots are relatively more common with the adenovirus vaccines, but it could also mean that the manufacturers of the mRNA vaccines did a better job at hiding the numbers so that they would be able to gain an advantage over their competitors and make more money. Regardless, most governments recommend Astrazeneca or Janssen for older people and Pfizer or Moderna for young people, as these are said to have a relatively lower death rate from complications for the respective age groups, with old people being more susceptible to succumbing from the fatigue caused by the mRNA vaccines as it seems to strain the immune system for a longer duration (a bit over a week on average).

The weakened virus vaccine from China sounds interesting; I wonder if it will be effective. But I was just thinking how ridiculous the situation has been so far. There's a virus going around that can sometimes severely affect people at random, so governments decide to recklessly put the entire world into lockdown? Then people go mad from all the restrictions, so there is a rush to make a vaccine to end it all, instead of creating medicine to treat the minority that becomes sick? Experimental vaccines are the first to seem promising, so people are pressured to get them ASAP regardless of any of their concerns so that the restrictions they're so sick of can be lifted? But they're not 100% reliable, so the lockdown and restrictions continue, and now many people are even more frustrated?

There's currently a study being done about the negative effects on mental health caused by the lockdown and related restrictions. Depending on the results, it could be used as leverage to dissuade governments from going to such extremes again in the future. However, it's going to take some time to collect the data, and analysing and reviewing it all can be a lengthy process too. It could be years before we see any of that. Even so, I hope that society learns from this and doesn't fall into such a downward spiral again.

There's been a lot of over-the-top fearmongering these days, which can easily be refuted if you look up more recent research, and I'm sure our enemies are liking that just as much as all the other harm caused by the situation. It makes many of the people who are at least able to see how things don't add up in regards to how governments handled this, into paranoid lunatics that are still failing to see what all of this is really about, and are instead obsessing over whatever spicy doomsday story they heard last week. What a waste.

If people stopped obsessing so much about the overblown dangers of the virus and the vaccines, then perhaps they would be able to see that the real problem is how their rights were violated and that they've been unjustly imprisoned in their own homes based on government decisions that are so insensible, that it would be delusional at this point to assume it isn't all just part of some agenda.

Guys the JNWO want you to be vaxxed/marked/labeled, if you agree, you give them full permission over your body/live.
They can change the future shots the way they please, here is a longer rant from me about it:

https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=61236&start=50

We don't want to hand over our rights and freedoms to the enemy and we don't want to be injected with things that are unsafe and ineffective but we are looking at things to see what to do if we are forced.

 

[Sunny]

The vaccine might be useless for health and might be used mostly for political purposes but hopefully at least it won't be harmful to health.

I simply do not understand what you are trying to say here!. "Useless" and "harmful" being used in the same sentence is all i understand and got from it!.

I would recommend you the old method of vaccine i.e. the real vaccine, this is very tested and applied but it does not offer much safety because let's say that very good and safe resources are not used for its creation.

What on earth is the "Real Vaccine"??....do you have any data, research or links & legitimate testimonies to support your statements??...Have you gone and taken this yourself?? why would you recommend something and then follow it up with the statement "does not offer much safety because....". I really cant take you seriously right now.

The weakened virus vaccine from China sounds interesting; I wonder if it will be effective.

I DONT & WOULDNT trust anything coming out of communist china. Im sorry to say but that is just plain Retarded to me.

Thats like saying "the chinese have developed a new way to save money on electricity bills..just stick a fork in any electrical socket, your bills will be cut in half!... very interesting i might try that!"

Dont make recommendations if you are uncertain about things...Enjoy the very little freedom you still have left in your country. In my Country it is become very serious. So enjoy being able to go to a beach or a park for leisure. I dont have that luxury here. We have our backs against the wall here!...this is some serious shit going on!.

I wanted to say that the vaccine may not be very useful against the virus but it will allow you to work. However, we hope that the vaccine is not very harmful to health.

I know we should not accept the blackmail of the enemy but we might not have any other choice because we have to live and you cannot live without working.

Regarding the meaning of the vaccine, sorry I was not very accurate. Below is a full explanation of the vaccine.

A vaccine is a biological preparation produced for the purpose of providing an active acquired immunity against a particular type of infection to those to whom it is administered.

The practice of administering vaccines, known as vaccination or vaccine-protection, is intended to actively exploit the immunological memory of the immune system, enabling the body to develop a defence system against a bacterium, virus or other micro-organism (usually against their wild type or against several of their more pathogenic variants) even before coming into contact with it. In this it differs from passive artificial immunity, which is based on the use of sera, i.e. body fluids from another human (homologous serum) or animal (heterologous serum) that has already come into contact with the pathogen.

Vaccines are fundamental preventive health tools, the introduction of which has made it possible to safely and significantly reduce the incidence of serious and potentially fatal diseases that had been widespread for millennia, infant mortality and various forms of disability in the world in just a few decades.

One of the most important achievements of vaccination was in 1980 when the World Health Organisation declared human smallpox eradicated from the earth. Today, there are different types of vaccines available against many diseases, the application of which is regulated by the health laws of different countries around the world.

The term 'vaccine' derives from the Latin word 'vacca', which identifies the female specimen of Bos taurus, and the related adjective vaccinus (bovine, of the cow). It was coined by the British physician Edward Jenner, who first used it in 1796 to refer to material obtained from the pustules of cattle sick with cowpox. Jenner realised that inoculating this material, the vaccine (hence the term vaccination, which indicates its inoculation), into humans caused a slight infection, but also resulted in the production of specific antibodies that provided immunity to human smallpox, which is similar to cowpox but deadly to humans.

Apart from the disease they protect against, the distinction between vaccines is linked to the way in which the components capable of triggering an immune response are obtained and produced. There are vaccines that contain

attenuated organisms, such as Sabin's polio vaccines (OPV), yellow fever, measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, rotavirus and smallpox.

inactivated or killed organisms, such as rabies vaccines, Salk's antipolio (IPV)[9], influenza vaccines, whooping cough, cholera, hepatitis A, typhoid fever and plague;

purified antigens (or subunit vaccines), such as vaccines (consisting of anatoxins) against tetanus or diphtheria;

recombinant antigens and synthetic peptides, such as the hepatitis B vaccine;

DNA or RNA, such as several vaccines against SARS-CoV2;

protein carriers conjugated to antigens, which allow for an enhanced immune response and are often used in vaccines containing polysaccharide antigens (which are more difficult for lymphocytes to recognise) such as those against meningococcal, pneumococcal and Haemophilus influenzae type B.

Many of the vaccines in use today act mainly by inducing a humoral response.

I am referring to the old vaccine, i.e. the whole and inactivated virus. This vaccine is not experimental but it still contains toxic things in it. I recommended this vaccine because in childhood, many of us had such vaccines for other viruses. But I cannot lie about this and say that it is very safe.

China is communist but it is not israel and the Chinese are not borgs, so I cannot treat the Chinese as the enemy.

You want a safe vaccine? I too would like a safe vaccine but for the moment there isn't one.

 

[Hornet666]

I've seen that side effects such as fatigue were usually more prevalent and longer lasting with mRNA vaccines. On the other hand, there's the unusually high risk of blood clots with the adenovirus approach (about 1:100000); I've heard some cases of this happening with mRNA vaccines as well, but not as much. This could mean that blood clots are relatively more common with the adenovirus vaccines, but it could also mean that the manufacturers of the mRNA vaccines did a better job at hiding the numbers so that they would be able to gain an advantage over their competitors and make more money. Regardless, most governments recommend Astrazeneca or Janssen for older people and Pfizer or Moderna for young people, as these are said to have a relatively lower death rate from complications for the respective age groups, with old people being more susceptible to succumbing from the fatigue caused by the mRNA vaccines as it seems to strain the immune system for a longer duration (a bit over a week on average).

The weakened virus vaccine from China sounds interesting; I wonder if it will be effective. But I was just thinking how ridiculous the situation has been so far. There's a virus going around that can sometimes severely affect people at random, so governments decide to recklessly put the entire world into lockdown? Then people go mad from all the restrictions, so there is a rush to make a vaccine to end it all, instead of creating medicine to treat the minority that becomes sick? Experimental vaccines are the first to seem promising, so people are pressured to get them ASAP regardless of any of their concerns so that the restrictions they're so sick of can be lifted? But they're not 100% reliable, so the lockdown and restrictions continue, and now many people are even more frustrated?

There's currently a study being done about the negative effects on mental health caused by the lockdown and related restrictions. Depending on the results, it could be used as leverage to dissuade governments from going to such extremes again in the future. However, it's going to take some time to collect the data, and analysing and reviewing it all can be a lengthy process too. It could be years before we see any of that. Even so, I hope that society learns from this and doesn't fall into such a downward spiral again.

There's been a lot of over-the-top fearmongering these days, which can easily be refuted if you look up more recent research, and I'm sure our enemies are liking that just as much as all the other harm caused by the situation. It makes many of the people who are at least able to see how things don't add up in regards to how governments handled this, into paranoid lunatics that are still failing to see what all of this is really about, and are instead obsessing over whatever spicy doomsday story they heard last week. What a waste.

If people stopped obsessing so much about the overblown dangers of the virus and the vaccines, then perhaps they would be able to see that the real problem is how their rights were violated and that they've been unjustly imprisoned in their own homes based on government decisions that are so insensible, that it would be delusional at this point to assume it isn't all just part of some agenda.

Guys the JNWO want you to be vaxxed/marked/labeled, if you agree, you give them full permission over your body/live.
They can change the future shots the way they please, here is a longer rant from me about it:

https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=61236&start=50

We don't want to hand over our rights and freedoms to the enemy and we don't want to be injected with things that are unsafe and ineffective but we are looking at things to see what to do if we are forced.

In that case... what you should be looking into, is what can i do or use to combat/heal myself if I am ever forced into taking the the vaccination. Instead of reading into all the political propaganda and misinformation that is so widespread. Giving up and taking the vaccine because you want to live and work with the enemy. To me just sounds like a scared little Xtian mentality. Alot of Germans gave their lives in the War fighting the enemy and fighting for the truth. It was the ones that were scared and surrendered to the enemy which is why it ended the way it did.

Even after they surrendered they suffered horrendous atrocities for Generations. That shit still goes on in todays time. I am a person who is an out of the box person, I always think and view things differently to the norm. One of the main core purposes of being a Satanist is representing the Truth. I will always remain true to myself to my inner core of my soul. I dont believe in consenting to the jab just because your rights have been taken away is they only way out of this mess. Right up until the end of the War Hitler was never found. He was the most wanted person on the planet. They never found him they never found his body. He fought for the truth to the very end. Never surrendered!..That gives us hope as Satanists that there is always a way out or around this mess. Never surrender!, Be a strong and wise Satanist. Dont become 1 of the subservient 2800 slaves they want for each Jew.

 

[Sunny]

Guys the JNWO want you to be vaxxed/marked/labeled, if you agree, you give them full permission over your body/live.
They can change the future shots the way they please, here is a longer rant from me about it:

https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=61236&start=50

We don't want to hand over our rights and freedoms to the enemy and we don't want to be injected with things that are unsafe and ineffective but we are looking at things to see what to do if we are forced.

In that case... what you should be looking into, is what can i do or use to combat/heal myself if I am ever forced into taking the the vaccination. Instead of reading into all the political propaganda and misinformation that is so widespread. Giving up and taking the vaccine because you want to live and work with the enemy. To me just sounds like a scared little Xtian mentality. Alot of Germans gave their lives in the War fighting the enemy and fighting for the truth. It was the ones that were scared and surrendered to the enemy which is why it ended the way it did.

Even after they surrendered they suffered horrendous atrocities for Generations. That shit still goes on in todays time. I am a person who is an out of the box person, I always think and view things differently to the norm. One of the main core purposes of being a Satanist is representing the Truth. I will always remain true to myself to my inner core of my soul. I dont believe in consenting to the jab just because your rights have been taken away is they only way out of this mess. Right up until the end of the War Hitler was never found. He was the most wanted person on the planet. They never found him they never found his body. He fought for the truth to the very end. Never surrendered!..That gives us hope as Satanists that there is always a way out or around this mess. Never surrender!, Be a strong and wise Satanist. Dont become 1 of the subservient 2800 slaves they want for each Jew.

Germany could not fight against all the other Nations controlled by jews and working for jews.

I understand your point of view but we must do what we must and what we can. Hitler was, is and will forever be an Immortal and Eternal God.

In our present situation, we do not have the power and the position that Hitler and the German National Socialists had to repel the enemy to such an extent.

I am not one to limit myself and trust things blindly either, but we have to camouflage ourselves and we have to be cunning.

 

[Sunny]

We don't want to hand over our rights and freedoms to the enemy and we don't want to be injected with things that are unsafe and ineffective but we are looking at things to see what to do if we are forced.

In that case... what you should be looking into, is what can i do or use to combat/heal myself if I am ever forced into taking the the vaccination. Instead of reading into all the political propaganda and misinformation that is so widespread. Giving up and taking the vaccine because you want to live and work with the enemy. To me just sounds like a scared little Xtian mentality. Alot of Germans gave their lives in the War fighting the enemy and fighting for the truth. It was the ones that were scared and surrendered to the enemy which is why it ended the way it did.

Even after they surrendered they suffered horrendous atrocities for Generations. That shit still goes on in todays time. I am a person who is an out of the box person, I always think and view things differently to the norm. One of the main core purposes of being a Satanist is representing the Truth. I will always remain true to myself to my inner core of my soul. I dont believe in consenting to the jab just because your rights have been taken away is they only way out of this mess. Right up until the end of the War Hitler was never found. He was the most wanted person on the planet. They never found him they never found his body. He fought for the truth to the very end. Never surrendered!..That gives us hope as Satanists that there is always a way out or around this mess. Never surrender!, Be a strong and wise Satanist. Dont become 1 of the subservient 2800 slaves they want for each Jew.

Germany could not fight against all the other Nations controlled by jews and working for jews.

I understand your point of view but we must do what we must and what we can. Hitler was, is and will forever be an Immortal and Eternal God.

In our present situation, we do not have the power and the position that Hitler and the German National Socialists had to repel the enemy to such an extent.

I am not one to limit myself and trust things blindly either, but we have to camouflage ourselves and we have to be cunning.

By camouflaging ourselves I meant pretending like the xian and muslim sheep to protect ourselves from the enemy.

However, even in a free society, we don't have to be open books. He who has no secrets is helpless. Knowing this, you can understand why xianism questions people with holy confession.