Frank.Woden said:
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Frank.Woden said:
A Siddhi it's an obstacle on the liberation path.
For the pashu, are just words trowed in the dust.
Who search for them, will never get them.
Who receive them , is because of his accomplishment in merit.
Who deliver them, is Shiva Himself.
This is not exactly true. Siddhis are just spiritual skills. All advancement is useful in some way, and definitely not an "obstacle" or something that you will "never get" by actively training.
Not every skill or endeavor is worth pursuing, but to say the things mentioned above is definitely more inline with New Age thinking, similar to saying wealth is an obstacle.
"True" is a big word indeed
Anyway to clarify
Regarding those powers labeled
"siddhi" , most
vairagi initiates are taught to
renonunce them as well as the quest for them, since
they can become a major obstacle for attaining bhakti. Instead, they are taught to begin each day's
sadhana with a
samkalp to seek only devotion and wisdom. Yet, for those
Ramanandis who go more deeply into their
sadhana practices, power and
siddhis become apparent and prevalent in their lives.
The meaning is without devotion You will not get any powerful siddhi.
I write this to clarify on what you wrote.
The quote you make here isn't wrong, however your previous assessment about Siddhis, or the pursuit of them causing blocks is not correct, neither your interpretation of the words you quoted is completely true.
Siddhi's by themselves are as Blitzkreig said, spiritual skills. One can pursue them to try and develop these, one can train them, and one can do so anytime anywhere.
However, the quote you make is true in that one will never gain any serious Siddhi or higher advancement if one seeks to attain certain power or ability just for the sake of having it, as the mind and soul are not open to receive these if one is stuck on a lower level pursuit of meaningless power just for the sake of it, or for a worthless purpose (like astral projection to spy on the girl next door, no God will teach you if that is your reason for trying to learn.)
Trying to develop a Siddhi to satisfy a desire for it born from a lower drive, one will indeed never get far on this. No true siddhi will be developed.
Idiots doing that may experience moving a coin a few millimeters when practicing telekinesis, and consider themselves grandmasters from doing so, which is pointless and useless.
To such people I would pick up the coin with my hands and throw it in the distance just to show how meaningless that "achievement" truly is.
With less than 10% the effort, just using my body, I can achieve 100 times the result. Indeed, useless.
Those who wholeheartedly pursue spiritual growth and follow the Spiritual Satanic path to advance their soul will gain powers along the way without having to pursue them or train for them.
You are right about that, or rather, the person you quoted from is right and understands this very well.
The reason some people comment on you in disagreement, and why I felt the need to clarify here, is because you take slightly out of context the meaning of what you read.
There is in essence nothing wrong with pursuing spiritual powers or abilities, and for many this is what entices them to try out the spiritual path.
It also doesn't cause blockages or issues later down the line in ones advancement to do so. One is free to try this without any danger down the line.
However, one can fall into a trap where one will seek power without meaning, and without advancement but purely driven by lower drives and ego, and as a result one will never achieve anything as this is equivalent to placing the cart before the horse to put it in a simple lay mans way.
Spiritual advancement is more than the pursuit of siddhi's, the siddhi is the sweet fruit, a reward for ones efforts to advance, not the primary aim.
Siddhi's come easily to those who focus on advancement as the goal, rather than the pursuit of any powers of abilities.
However, after one has started this path and understands the true value lies in the advancement of the mind and soul itself, one can absolutely pursue certain siddhi's and study under the Gods how to use certain powers, in order to learn how to use the power one has build.
There is nothing wrong with wanting to develop abilities and learn how to use them, learn how to use the powers developed through your advancement, however one must ask and wonder if there is meaning in doing so, and for what purpose one wishes to do so.
If this is simply a desire to show off or have power for the sake of power, the Gods will not teach you in full.
To get a taste of the possibilities however, one may still learn something and experience siddhi's to an extend, but to gain full mastery and expression of these requires a more dedicated pursuit to advancement itself.
The Gods teach those who are open to understand and dedicated to this path.
Lastly, I would say, it is not Satan(Shiva) who gives powers to others. It is us who grant powers to ourselves, through partaking in the teachings and knowledge of the Gods.
Without the Gods, one will not learn or develop any serious abilities, however it is in the end us ourselves who grant the siddhi's to ourselves, by being dedicated to the Spiritual Satanic path and fulfilling the conditions to reap the sweet fruits and receive the rewards.
Hail Satan!