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jxk2080

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This is from a small questionable yet accurate in most cases book.

"In the 1960s, neuropsychologist Robert Sperry embarked on a research program that eventually won him the nobel prize. Soerry's work with split brain patients-epileptics whose doctors removed the connections between the right and left brain hemispheres to treat their seizures-concluded that a specific half of the brain was more involved in reading, writing, and arithmetic than the other. These findings filtered out into the popular press, and pop psychologists ran with it.

Somehow, Sperry's findings on the "lateralization" of the brain morphed into a belief the creative imagination is controlled by the "right brain" while logical analysis is controlled by the "left brain" and that the people are generally right ir left brained. This belief has since informed everything from self-help books to occupational apptitude tests. The simplicity of the theory combined with its scientific undertones explains why it has stuck around so long-despite the fact it's wrong.

Not that there isn't significant evidence for lateralization of the brain. However, this lateralization tends to be more nuanced. While the right hemisphere visualizes shapes and the left hemisphere visualizes details, both are required for interpreting visual information. While the right side is predominant in processing linguistic meaning and the left side is largely responsible for processing grammar, both are necessary for interpreting language. Recent studies of middle school students as they analyzed mathematical problems indicate that the most successful ones were those whose left and right brain hemispheres communicated the most-not students that showed any particular dominance in one or the other.

The verdict is that while brain lateralization and localization of mental processing are a real thing, these findings do not-and never did-support the idea that creativity and analysis are two ends of a spectrum representing the lateral orientation of the brain. Besides, even those buy into left- and right-brain theory now believe that success is a combination of both analytical strength and creativity. In other words, you benefit most by using more than half if your brain."

So what conclusion(s) do you draw from this? I see it as a revelation uprooting the exaggeration of old time assumptions and nowadays presumptions which obscure the optimal application to evolving through meditation.
 
I honestly believe we need to eliminate all exaggeration and myth, while still respecting the philosophical-ergo the love of wisdom-and with that come to appreciate the truest beauty and application of the occult to achieve a literal Godhead via the Gnostic balance.  

In plain terms, I want a balance between skepticism and openness.  Basically, an agnostic approach to the scientific proof and from there representation of the occult.  

Ive tried posting about these things before with very little luck, in the possibility of expressing a nuance of doubt to whatever moderator reading these.  I have to state my intentions clearly.  Ive been an SS for nearly 7 years, and to be honest, Ive had my share of laziness, overdoing it, and in only the most recent months, finding a calm equilibrium.  My conviction for a superior clarity however, and the strength to achieve that clarity and visa versa has never diminished.  I want what I want and that desire is my own personal perfection so that I may be truly self sufficient, and perhaps happy.  with that ability I would pledge myself to the Daemon lords as an undying contract of devotion for lifting my spirit and with it my entire soul to the abstract structures of eternity.  I want to be a scientific force primarily, analytical yet intuitive, with telepathic accuracy, and no half ass speculation.  A Scientist, a warrior, a philosopher, and what have you.  

That expression aside, I want to introduce a serious thread discussing the validity of certain methods, both in individual experience, as well as empirical objectivity.  This is not something to be passed off as some rant where I say gimme gimme, its a reach out for collaborative effort, instead of taking shots in the dark, lets get some lanterns and sort what really works out.  Id like to contribute what I can in these regards.  Ive never been so serious as to prove the practical methods by which the siddihs and life beyond death can be realized.  

Yes, there are many proofs already hushed by the obnoxious rodent faced enemy, but Im talking about the problem of us settling for cheap imitations of a proof, which relays a half true image of the soul.  In the most basic point, I want to take the abstract and merge it with the material.  No more guessing games.  Real Meditation experience, and real open ended scientific inquiry.  
 
That's very interesting!! Of course I believe both half to be equally important.
It's the union of the male & female aspect of the soul.
I never really tested it out but I'm pretty sure I was/still am more left-brain.
Since only recently I started visualizing effectively because I practice every day. I think Void meditation is a key to achieve balance.
In more than one way.
It helps to keep one's energy and focus from dissipating.
RTRs are really powerful also on one's self.
It feels like a million chains break every time I do them.

Anyway, I'm not sure if what I mentioned is really relevant but this thread and how you plan it to become really got me hyped!!!!^-^
 
Yes Sloth, thats actually a conclusion I cane to a while bsck, chiefly that the true Void is that ehich unites the aspects in our mind to a hermaphroditic pragmatism.

What I mean is the effect is the ultimate sobering of the soul to endure stimuli, or sterilize the stimuli for clarity.

It was discovered that the void meditation truly embodies the concept of "reality is stranger than fiction", which was mentioned in another hidden expression by a distant Satanist known as Kai Purr in his writings.

Im not advocating following anything any one Satanist claims but his take on the unreal effect of lucidity through power meditation was a conclusion I came to after enough experimental sessions.

Void meditation is invaluble and is the basis of modern joint scientific/spiritual movements like the "Transcendental Meditation" that even some PHDs from different branches of science are advocating.

In those studies which are just the foundationsl basic void meditation variants, the brain reconfigures its own balance and allows a coherent picture to form itself as nature intended.

We get so caught up with threatening stress that we no longer have the strength or clarity to maintain a balance, and its the blissful gift of our parent civilization the Daemons who gave us these powers in addition to our superior psychology.

As a rule, complex sentience is a double edges seord which is as strong as it is sensitive, to which everything from men to ancient Daemons like The Father Satan have to build disciplines to protect their unfathomably vast emotion and telepathic faculties.

Void meditation builds into other practices like the foundation energy inhale and exhale, to general energy drawing, then directing, and eventually manipulating the alignment and flow of the Chakras and Nadis with visual/tactile generation within.
 
In all sincerity, that , what you've wrote here, in this topic , is almost a perfect representation of the "most ideal" of spiritual experience and module that I perceive to want and to put into application upon myself, once the occasion comes along for me too...  Although even if I feel so close to your relation ,internally, I'm as distant and cold in reality , and little of any "academic" help could arrive in useful time ... It is not of any importance my message here , if not just for saying that I'm glad someone made it before me , so I'm able now to read proof of such a state of being , thank you ! I felt it was better to write it down. 
 
Im glad I could assist in kindling your internalized representation of such a state.

It is my hope to assust the nigh "un-assist-able" in these abstract matters.

Im assuming you're referring to the state achieved theough clarity that essentially scans over reality in what feels like the ultimate surreality?

With that realization one gains indefinite confidence in their endeavors.
 
jxk2080 Wow this is some truly nice explanations!!
I really enjoy reading what you mentioned above.^-^
I have been praticing Void meditation for like 5 years almost every second.
I understand what you say about reality being stranger than fiction.
I've become a SS only since 8months or so but I'm glad that even while being without I managed to grasp the importance of Void meditation.

IMO, when Void meditating, it soon comes to the point where your understanding is beyond words and visualization.
The thoughts you would create now shows their lack of ''space'' & ''color''
to express and paint what you focus upon.
It always feels like:
''Oh here's another nice thought that somewhat embodies a bit the object of my focus. Well, back to Void now.''
I like creating music in my mind sometimes.
Even when I have a very great song in mind I soon get tired of it because it's repetitive.
 
I have some curious questions for the posters in this thread. In your opinion, would you recommend being in void ALL of the time? Do you feel or have experienced that there are any drawbacks to this? Just wondering.
I am in void 92% of the time, until I think something that passes through my mind like lightning, or maybe a bit slower, lol. I find when I think, it takes effort though. Like I am forming words more slower than the average person and sometimes I get revelations on mundane personal things in my life. My thoughts aren't slow like molasses but sometimes I think I think (pun intended) a bit slower and more deliberately than a person who isn't in void all the time. But I know thoughts have power so I have to be careful what I dwell upon.
There could be other reasons in my life why my mind's thoughts and their speed are this way, but I'd rather not talk about them.
 Have you experienced this feeling of "molasses" (okay, maybe I am exaggerating by using that word) and how did you remedy it, if you did?

On Saturday, September 23, 2017, 1:38:46 PM EDT, alex_123456789@... [Advanced_Meditation] <[email protected] wrote:

  jxk2080 Wow this is some truly nice explanations!!
I really enjoy reading what you mentioned above.^-^
I have been praticing Void meditation for like 5 years almost every second.
I understand what you say about reality being stranger than fiction.
I've become a SS only since 8months or so but I'm glad that even while being without I managed to grasp the importance of Void meditation.

IMO, when Void meditating, it soon comes to the point where your understanding is beyond words and visualization.
The thoughts you would create now shows their lack of ''space'' & ''color''
to express and paint what you focus upon.
It always feels like:
''Oh here's another nice thought that somewhat embodies a bit the object of my focus. Well, back to Void now.''
I like creating music in my mind sometimes.
Even when I have a very great song in mind I soon get tired of it because it's repetitive.
 
Yes, Shiningsloth, that is the bliss brought from strength and clarity manifesting by your own will.  

When reality lacks the illusion of a stagnant description of rigid expectations, that is where the void of illusion lays.  

Void as in absent, the mind pierces the veil and is akin to the ether, which is often exchanged in the Vedas with the air element relating to the AU in AUM, aura, or the gold element representing the perfection of complex life enduring eternity.  

Only a strong mind which can find interest in its own recreation of the true objective reality gains its entrance to a sublime subjectivity united with that objectivity.

Letting the thoughts slip by is a key factor in automating your awareness to not be attached to worthless distractions.  

With this you can pay attention to fundamental things like primal survival instincts, natural and complex pleasures and leisure, and altruistic paths to a wholesome civilization.

You are effectively rectifying basic reality by re-evaluation of your root necessities which inevitably branch out into collective ideals for a world which no longer struggles.

It is perhaps when societies reach their peak they are presented with the ultimatum to balance discipline and pleasure (which is not a 50/50 exactitude, but more of a ratio depending on how advanced and protected the civilization is from foreign and domestic threats of decadence).

What the jews have done is instill this rot, they are part of a collective that is straggling on the back of a successful collective, the nations of Satanic prodigy.

They are born from a primal civilization which tasted the power of raw force which arranged itself as projected parasitism, and this is the only reason we have yet to surpass this residue from the age of Pisces.

The age of Aquarius will bring objective and abstract mediumship more or less in the form of opportunities for those already opened, but the the straggling masses attached by the parasitic jew, this age will just be their abrasive detriment.  

Which brings me to my final point, that this concept of an ultimate, which is reflected in the procession and that 26,000 or so cycle which predicts the rise and fall of civilizations.  

The civilizations may fall but this can be for the benefit of simple mass transformation on an industrial scale, or migration due to natural climate changes.

However, in the case with recent deca-millennia, it was the war with enemies of the Daemons trying to intercept the growth of their empire and the eventual seeding of the jews that would be this civilizations ancient decline.  

With the civilization we are in, people are impossibly distracted, and most are beaten into a subjective (stupor) so to speak, as state of mind not unlike that point between dreaming and chaotic murky darkness in sleep.  

The ones who can truly take a look at not only the essential things they require, nd what would be good for humanity, must also look to what means can achieve this end.  

This is why the new agers, and highly castrated eastern monks who do meditate are only 2/3rds of the way to where we are spearheading.  

Those who believe in the message the JoS has seeded were already with us despite using a different banner.  

We can see the difference, feel it, between what will inevitably lead to the jewish way, or the way of Sanatana Dharma.  

Reality is stranger and in that more horrifying and beautiful when one pays real attention not only to their own conclusions drawn from it, but what might have to be done to achieve it.  

That again is referring to the new agers and modern day monks who are disciplined but have policies of non interference, or "love will conquer all".  

They are spiritually castrated in the masculine ways of volition and assertion.  They shun active or interception self defense, also called war, seeing it as negative and are too paranoid they will turn into beasts with such participation.  

Yet we are beasts, divine ones, who have the opportunity from the Daemonic civilization to become a winged lion, or whatever mythical beast you'd describe it as.

The fact these new agers shy away from such concepts reflects a hidden incompleteness, ironically straying from the protection and empathy they claim to represent.

So the meditations which enable not simply a clear observation, but a clear activation of principles is what is necessary to establish a civilization on balance.  There can be no half assed wishy washy assumptions. 





Magus Immortalis, I truly believe as time goes on that the void meditation becomes a status that while wavering, is eventually a 99% tier of the perfected mind that higher gods attain anyhow.  

You and Shiningsloth elaborated your most of the time automation of thoughts as it is, which is a good thing.  Pleasures will be more intense if the person acknowledges what is healthiest for them while yielding the rights of others in the ideal civilization I described above.  

It is impossible to be exactly 100% anything, as that concept implies a mortal sense of infinity, which is incorrect in the face of universal transformation.

Transformation never stops, and strengths and vulnerabilities will fluctuate, so with that realization everything already spoken about by the Priests and their references to gentile heroes still holds true, which is the balance between discipline and recreational societies.  

Void meditation is obviously not the same as having a drill sergeant antagonize you up a mountain every day with a whip, rather it becomes automatic as you adjust to it since its the highest faculties of the soul, not a purely physical extension.  

I will liken it to my experience when I did very thorough directing energy routine for 40+ days until I would actually wake up some mornings and do it half consciously.  If you can achieve the ultimate clarity to a 9/10 ratio, I would say you are doing pretty damn well in your discipline factor.

The final frontier remains with what you can create from that clarity, after removing illusions.  Too many assume what should be after they are done (pre)suming what society taught them to stress about.  We are straying from the decadence with these core practices as they slowly merge with more complex meditations where the Daemons can guide us if we are worthy and stable enough.  

Yes, the Void itself bleeds into the habit of being aware anyway, so its not a question of is it a good thing, as it just is essence itself functioning, at least in my opinion it is inevitable progress.






---In [email protected], <magus.immortalis@... wrote :

I have some curious questions for the posters in this thread. In your opinion, would you recommend being in void ALL of the time? Do you feel or have experienced that there are any drawbacks to this? Just wondering.
I am in void 92% of the time, until I think something that passes through my mind like lightning, or maybe a bit slower, lol. I find when I think, it takes effort though. Like I am forming words more slower than the average person and sometimes I get revelations on mundane personal things in my life. My thoughts aren't slow like molasses but sometimes I think I think (pun intended) a bit slower and more deliberately than a person who isn't in void all the time. But I know thoughts have power so I have to be careful what I dwell upon.
There could be other reasons in my life why my mind's thoughts and their speed are this way, but I'd rather not talk about them.
 Have you experienced this feeling of "molasses" (okay, maybe I am exaggerating by using that word) and how did you remedy it, if you did?

On Saturday, September 23, 2017, 1:38:46 PM EDT, alex_123456789@... [Advanced_Meditation] <[email protected] wrote:

 jxk2080 Wow this is some truly nice explanations!!
I really enjoy reading what you mentioned above.^-^
I have been praticing Void meditation for like 5 years almost every second.
I understand what you say about reality being stranger than fiction.
I've become a SS only since 8months or so but I'm glad that even while being without I managed to grasp the importance of Void meditation.

IMO, when Void meditating, it soon comes to the point where your understanding is beyond words and visualization.
The thoughts you would create now shows their lack of ''space'' & ''color''
to express and paint what you focus upon.
It always feels like:
''Oh here's another nice thought that somewhat embodies a bit the object of my focus. Well, back to Void now.''
I like creating music in my mind sometimes.
Even when I have a very great song in mind I soon get tired of it because it's repetitive.
 
Jxk2080 Thank you for your long, detailed and thoughtful reply. I will be saving this thread to refer back to it for future reference. 
You put my worries to rest about being in void most of the time. :)
I do, however, feel like my thoughts have more power because they are deliberate when I think them, and I can feel the intention and power behind them as I think. This sounds obvious but I thought I would share my thoughts on that (pun intended again.)
Hail Satan.
On Saturday, September 23, 2017, 5:55:24 PM EDT, jxk2080@... [Advanced_Meditation] <[email protected] wrote:

  Yes, Shiningsloth, that is the bliss brought from strength and clarity manifesting by your own will.  

When reality lacks the illusion of a stagnant description of rigid expectations, that is where the void of illusion lays.  

Void as in absent, the mind pierces the veil and is akin to the ether, which is often exchanged in the Vedas with the air element relating to the AU in AUM, aura, or the gold element representing the perfection of complex life enduring eternity.  

Only a strong mind which can find interest in its own recreation of the true objective reality gains its entrance to a sublime subjectivity united with that objectivity.

Letting the thoughts slip by is a key factor in automating your awareness to not be attached to worthless distractions.  

With this you can pay attention to fundamental things like primal survival instincts, natural and complex pleasures and leisure, and altruistic paths to a wholesome civilization.

You are effectively rectifying basic reality by re-evaluation of your root necessities which inevitably branch out into collective ideals for a world which no longer struggles.

It is perhaps when societies reach their peak they are presented with the ultimatum to balance discipline and pleasure (which is not a 50/50 exactitude, but more of a ratio depending on how advanced and protected the civilization is from foreign and domestic threats of decadence).

What the jews have done is instill this rot, they are part of a collective that is straggling on the back of a successful collective, the nations of Satanic prodigy.

They are born from a primal civilization which tasted the power of raw force which arranged itself as projected parasitism, and this is the only reason we have yet to surpass this residue from the age of Pisces.

The age of Aquarius will bring objective and abstract mediumship more or less in the form of opportunities for those already opened, but the the straggling masses attached by the parasitic jew, this age will just be their abrasive detriment.  

Which brings me to my final point, that this concept of an ultimate, which is reflected in the procession and that 26,000 or so cycle which predicts the rise and fall of civilizations.  

The civilizations may fall but this can be for the benefit of simple mass transformation on an industrial scale, or migration due to natural climate changes.

However, in the case with recent deca-millennia, it was the war with enemies of the Daemons trying to intercept the growth of their empire and the eventual seeding of the jews that would be this civilizations ancient decline.  

With the civilization we are in, people are impossibly distracted, and most are beaten into a subjective (stupor) so to speak, as state of mind not unlike that point between dreaming and chaotic murky darkness in sleep.  

The ones who can truly take a look at not only the essential things they require, nd what would be good for humanity, must also look to what means can achieve this end.  

This is why the new agers, and highly castrated eastern monks who do meditate are only 2/3rds of the way to where we are spearheading.  

Those who believe in the message the JoS has seeded were already with us despite using a different banner.  

We can see the difference, feel it, between what will inevitably lead to the jewish way, or the way of Sanatana Dharma.  

Reality is stranger and in that more horrifying and beautiful when one pays real attention not only to their own conclusions drawn from it, but what might have to be done to achieve it.  

That again is referring to the new agers and modern day monks who are disciplined but have policies of non interference, or "love will conquer all".  

They are spiritually castrated in the masculine ways of volition and assertion.  They shun active or interception self defense, also called war, seeing it as negative and are too paranoid they will turn into beasts with such participation.  

Yet we are beasts, divine ones, who have the opportunity from the Daemonic civilization to become a winged lion, or whatever mythical beast you'd describe it as.

The fact these new agers shy away from such concepts reflects a hidden incompleteness, ironically straying from the protection and empathy they claim to represent.

So the meditations which enable not simply a clear observation, but a clear activation of principles is what is necessary to establish a civilization on balance.  There can be no half assed wishy washy assumptions. 





Magus Immortalis, I truly believe as time goes on that the void meditation becomes a status that while wavering, is eventually a 99% tier of the perfected mind that higher gods attain anyhow.  

You and Shiningsloth elaborated your most of the time automation of thoughts as it is, which is a good thing.  Pleasures will be more intense if the person acknowledges what is healthiest for them while yielding the rights of others in the ideal civilization I described above.  

It is impossible to be exactly 100% anything, as that concept implies a mortal sense of infinity, which is incorrect in the face of universal transformation.

Transformation never stops, and strengths and vulnerabilities will fluctuate, so with that realization everything already spoken about by the Priests and their references to gentile heroes still holds true, which is the balance between discipline and recreational societies.  

Void meditation is obviously not the same as having a drill sergeant antagonize you up a mountain every day with a whip, rather it becomes automatic as you adjust to it since its the highest faculties of the soul, not a purely physical extension.  

I will liken it to my experience when I did very thorough directing energy routine for 40+ days until I would actually wake up some mornings and do it half consciously.  If you can achieve the ultimate clarity to a 9/10 ratio, I would say you are doing pretty damn well in your discipline factor.

The final frontier remains with what you can create from that clarity, after removing illusions.  Too many assume what should be after they are done (pre)suming what society taught them to stress about.  We are straying from the decadence with these core practices as they slowly merge with more complex meditations where the Daemons can guide us if we are worthy and stable enough.  

Yes, the Void itself bleeds into the habit of being aware anyway, so its not a question of is it a good thing, as it just is essence itself functioning, at least in my opinion it is inevitable progress.






---In [email protected], <magus.immortalis@... wrote :

I have some curious questions for the posters in this thread. In your opinion, would you recommend being in void ALL of the time? Do you feel or have experienced that there are any drawbacks to this? Just wondering.
I am in void 92% of the time, until I think something that passes through my mind like lightning, or maybe a bit slower, lol. I find when I think, it takes effort though. Like I am forming words more slower than the average person and sometimes I get revelations on mundane personal things in my life. My thoughts aren't slow like molasses but sometimes I think I think (pun intended) a bit slower and more deliberately than a person who isn't in void all the time. But I know thoughts have power so I have to be careful what I dwell upon.
There could be other reasons in my life why my mind's thoughts and their speed are this way, but I'd rather not talk about them.
 Have you experienced this feeling of "molasses" (okay, maybe I am exaggerating by using that word) and how did you remedy it, if you did?

On Saturday, September 23, 2017, 1:38:46 PM EDT, alex_123456789@... [Advanced_Meditation] <[email protected] wrote:

 jxk2080 Wow this is some truly nice explanations!!
I really enjoy reading what you mentioned above.^-^
I have been praticing Void meditation for like 5 years almost every second.
I understand what you say about reality being stranger than fiction.
I've become a SS only since 8months or so but I'm glad that even while being without I managed to grasp the importance of Void meditation.

IMO, when Void meditating, it soon comes to the point where your understanding is beyond words and visualization.
The thoughts you would create now shows their lack of ''space'' & ''color''
to express and paint what you focus upon.
It always feels like:
''Oh here's another nice thought that somewhat embodies a bit the object of my focus. Well, back to Void now.''
I like creating music in my mind sometimes.
Even when I have a very great song in mind I soon get tired of it because it's repetitive.
 
I got caught up in the bigger picture so I forgot to add this.  

As to your slowing of thoughts I have contemplated and had epiphanies regarding relativism on ones advancement in the faculties of the soul.  

Paying attention to anything makes time seem slower, and often this reflects greater stimulation due to intensity or spontaneity in variation.  

When "time flies when you're having fun" it is because you are technically content, regardless of the stimulation the stimulation is one which is expected, and valued bring comfort to fulfill the appetite for recreation.  

When something bizarre or painful is detected, it has to do with something we ae not accustomed too, and it makes time slow down because its as though time tests our resolve to remain one thing or become another, even in mundane micro decisions.  

Its like if you were running a mile every day, and you took the same route and ran with the same cadence, you would adapt to that load of stimulation and mechanical direction.  

If you decide to go in the opposite direction or another path altogether, and decided to add a longer duration or just change the way you run, you would feel off put or even uncomfortable eventually and this adds up to new stimulation for which the brain and thus soul cannot tolerate until it repeats that very thing.  
I'll add off from the discussion involving balance and void meditation, the part referring to reality transforming so we can never really be 100% anything, leaving room for adaptation.  
Perfection, like infinity, is the dynamic movement that is discerned by a dynamic truth, revealing the turbulence, and fluency of reality in its exchange of energy through mind.  

Perfection is through a system, ie being which can survive with its identity in tact while avoiding destruction in any form, save for its own excretion of imbalanced forces thwarting its functional wholeness.  

Perfection is dynamic, only being expressed or seeming static.  It is always adapting.  This is why Void must not be restrained to observation, but intention as well.  



---In [email protected], <magus.immortalis@... wrote :

Jxk2080 Thank you for your long, detailed and thoughtful reply. I will be saving this thread to refer back to it for future reference. 
You put my worries to rest about being in void most of the time. :)
I do, however, feel like my thoughts have more power because they are deliberate when I think them, and I can feel the intention and power behind them as I think. This sounds obvious but I thought I would share my thoughts on that (pun intended again.)
Hail Satan.
On Saturday, September 23, 2017, 5:55:24 PM EDT, jxk2080@... [Advanced_Meditation] <[email protected] wrote:

 Yes, Shiningsloth, that is the bliss brought from strength and clarity manifesting by your own will.  

When reality lacks the illusion of a stagnant description of rigid expectations, that is where the void of illusion lays.  

Void as in absent, the mind pierces the veil and is akin to the ether, which is often exchanged in the Vedas with the air element relating to the AU in AUM, aura, or the gold element representing the perfection of complex life enduring eternity.  

Only a strong mind which can find interest in its own recreation of the true objective reality gains its entrance to a sublime subjectivity united with that objectivity.

Letting the thoughts slip by is a key factor in automating your awareness to not be attached to worthless distractions.  

With this you can pay attention to fundamental things like primal survival instincts, natural and complex pleasures and leisure, and altruistic paths to a wholesome civilization.

You are effectively rectifying basic reality by re-evaluation of your root necessities which inevitably branch out into collective ideals for a world which no longer struggles.

It is perhaps when societies reach their peak they are presented with the ultimatum to balance discipline and pleasure (which is not a 50/50 exactitude, but more of a ratio depending on how advanced and protected the civilization is from foreign and domestic threats of decadence).

What the jews have done is instill this rot, they are part of a collective that is straggling on the back of a successful collective, the nations of Satanic prodigy.

They are born from a primal civilization which tasted the power of raw force which arranged itself as projected parasitism, and this is the only reason we have yet to surpass this residue from the age of Pisces.

The age of Aquarius will bring objective and abstract mediumship more or less in the form of opportunities for those already opened, but the the straggling masses attached by the parasitic jew, this age will just be their abrasive detriment.  

Which brings me to my final point, that this concept of an ultimate, which is reflected in the procession and that 26,000 or so cycle which predicts the rise and fall of civilizations.  

The civilizations may fall but this can be for the benefit of simple mass transformation on an industrial scale, or migration due to natural climate changes.

However, in the case with recent deca-millennia, it was the war with enemies of the Daemons trying to intercept the growth of their empire and the eventual seeding of the jews that would be this civilizations ancient decline.  

With the civilization we are in, people are impossibly distracted, and most are beaten into a subjective (stupor) so to speak, as state of mind not unlike that point between dreaming and chaotic murky darkness in sleep.  

The ones who can truly take a look at not only the essential things they require, nd what would be good for humanity, must also look to what means can achieve this end.  

This is why the new agers, and highly castrated eastern monks who do meditate are only 2/3rds of the way to where we are spearheading.  

Those who believe in the message the JoS has seeded were already with us despite using a different banner.  

We can see the difference, feel it, between what will inevitably lead to the jewish way, or the way of Sanatana Dharma.  

Reality is stranger and in that more horrifying and beautiful when one pays real attention not only to their own conclusions drawn from it, but what might have to be done to achieve it.  

That again is referring to the new agers and modern day monks who are disciplined but have policies of non interference, or "love will conquer all".  

They are spiritually castrated in the masculine ways of volition and assertion.  They shun active or interception self defense, also called war, seeing it as negative and are too paranoid they will turn into beasts with such participation.  

Yet we are beasts, divine ones, who have the opportunity from the Daemonic civilization to become a winged lion, or whatever mythical beast you'd describe it as.

The fact these new agers shy away from such concepts reflects a hidden incompleteness, ironically straying from the protection and empathy they claim to represent.

So the meditations which enable not simply a clear observation, but a clear activation of principles is what is necessary to establish a civilization on balance.  There can be no half assed wishy washy assumptions. 





Magus Immortalis, I truly believe as time goes on that the void meditation becomes a status that while wavering, is eventually a 99% tier of the perfected mind that higher gods attain anyhow.  

You and Shiningsloth elaborated your most of the time automation of thoughts as it is, which is a good thing.  Pleasures will be more intense if the person acknowledges what is healthiest for them while yielding the rights of others in the ideal civilization I described above.  

It is impossible to be exactly 100% anything, as that concept implies a mortal sense of infinity, which is incorrect in the face of universal transformation.

Transformation never stops, and strengths and vulnerabilities will fluctuate, so with that realization everything already spoken about by the Priests and their references to gentile heroes still holds true, which is the balance between discipline and recreational societies.  

Void meditation is obviously not the same as having a drill sergeant antagonize you up a mountain every day with a whip, rather it becomes automatic as you adjust to it since its the highest faculties of the soul, not a purely physical extension.  

I will liken it to my experience when I did very thorough directing energy routine for 40+ days until I would actually wake up some mornings and do it half consciously.  If you can achieve the ultimate clarity to a 9/10 ratio, I would say you are doing pretty damn well in your discipline factor.

The final frontier remains with what you can create from that clarity, after removing illusions.  Too many assume what should be after they are done (pre)suming what society taught them to stress about.  We are straying from the decadence with these core practices as they slowly merge with more complex meditations where the Daemons can guide us if we are worthy and stable enough.  

Yes, the Void itself bleeds into the habit of being aware anyway, so its not a question of is it a good thing, as it just is essence itself functioning, at least in my opinion it is inevitable progress.






---In [email protected], <magus.immortalis@... wrote :

I have some curious questions for the posters in this thread. In your opinion, would you recommend being in void ALL of the time? Do you feel or have experienced that there are any drawbacks to this? Just wondering.
I am in void 92% of the time, until I think something that passes through my mind like lightning, or maybe a bit slower, lol. I find when I think, it takes effort though. Like I am forming words more slower than the average person and sometimes I get revelations on mundane personal things in my life. My thoughts aren't slow like molasses but sometimes I think I think (pun intended) a bit slower and more deliberately than a person who isn't in void all the time. But I know thoughts have power so I have to be careful what I dwell upon.
There could be other reasons in my life why my mind's thoughts and their speed are this way, but I'd rather not talk about them.
 Have you experienced this feeling of "molasses" (okay, maybe I am exaggerating by using that word) and how did you remedy it, if you did?

On Saturday, September 23, 2017, 1:38:46 PM EDT, alex_123456789@... [Advanced_Meditation] <[email protected] wrote:

 jxk2080 Wow this is some truly nice explanations!!
I really enjoy reading what you mentioned above.^-^
I have been praticing Void meditation for like 5 years almost every second.
I understand what you say about reality being stranger than fiction.
I've become a SS only since 8months or so but I'm glad that even while being without I managed to grasp the importance of Void meditation.

IMO, when Void meditating, it soon comes to the point where your understanding is beyond words and visualization.
The thoughts you would create now shows their lack of ''space'' & ''color''
to express and paint what you focus upon.
It always feels like:
''Oh here's another nice thought that somewhat embodies a bit the object of my focus. Well, back to Void now.''
I like creating music in my mind sometimes.
Even when I have a very great song in mind I soon get tired of it because it's repetitive.
 
Essentially, Void Meditation assures you pay attention to a consistent shift in phases, so you will be able to slow down perceptions, but as you adapt to things through reinforcement, they may go by faster.  

Im still contemplating these things though.
 
On the topic of Void meditation, these are my personal findings regarding it, aswell as the benifits I have noticed from it.

As I am now I'm also void most of the time, to others around me it appears as if I am absend minded, however I really am just void all the time pretty much, where ever I am. I admit though that lately this has slightly subsided as I have had more things on my mind, but I am getting back to that state of tranquillity and clarity.

It gives a focus unlike anything else, while being in that state of void you learn things much faster, you understand things much easier and better, your thoughts hold so much more power which also makes it easier for one to express oneself. You get an overarching sense of understanding and awareness, akin to the state of all knowing spoken of in Satanama Dharma.

Void is the basis of attaining that state.

Fear leaves your mind, pain is subdued, emotions are brought under conscious control. It extends throughout your whole being eventually, where you are consciously aware and in control of all aspects of your being.

I did personal experiments to see how far I could consciously control my body when I was at the height of this void state, one of the things I tried was to consciously increase or lower my heartrate, a process that is usually controlled by the subconscious mind, which I was able to do. Same with adrenaline, which can be consciously released or subdued.

Stress, fear and panick simply fade. Even in very chaotic situations you can stay calm and be in full control because the mind processes information so much faster.

When you reach very deep in a void state everything appears to slow down around you. It made it so I could keep track of all my surroundings and everything going on around me easily, I never got surprised or startled, because I noticed things comming before they happened.

My reaction time became noticably faster. A kid in the supermarket walking with his mother almost tripped over something on the floor, nobody noticed it, not even his mother, but I noticed it quickly and stopped him from falling easily, even though I was looking the other way when it happened.

It was like my body moved on it's own, there was no resistance between my mind and my movements. Another example, a woman dropped a piece of fruit in front of me, which I caught very quickly before it fell, I noticed it happen right away, even though I didn't focus on it at all.

Talking with people became even easier, as I had a much easier time reading into them while speaking with them. On the other hand I did become much more reserved, when people speak to me I find myself rather uninterested most of the time.

I would find myself answering with a hand genture or a nod much more often rather than to actually speak when I didn't really care much. Or give a smile and a hand gesture of some kind when meeting someone rather than say hello, unless the person I was meeting was someone I was genuinly interested to meet.

I found that I prefer not to speak unless needed or unless I genuinly want to say something, or when I am speaking to a friend/family member. Spoken words hold more value to me somehow because of being in that Void state and I see no reason to speak just for the sake of it.

On the topic of learing much faster, I had to help my little sister with her mathematics homework, which I haven't done any of for atleast 4 years and had mosty completely forgotten about. I expected I'd need atleast a couple of days to give myself a crash course in mathemetics to relearn it again, but I refreshed my understanding in just an hour, and understood it better than I ever did before as well after just studying it for an hour.

I found I could formulate and express myself much better to other people. Such as having coversations about the third reich and Adolf Hitler with people, which are of course very sensitive topics for most people, I had a much easier time speaking about those. My mind had such clarity I knew exactly what to say, how to formulate my words and had counter arguements for everything those other people could think of.

Before, even though I had studied it all when I joined the JoS and dedicated to Satan I was not really able to put it into words at all, whenever the topic came up I didn't really know what to say to convince the other person or explain to them what I had studied and looked into, now however it was easy to do so, the words just flow off my tongue, like a river flowing down a mountain.

Where I might have gotten stressed in the past, I am not stressed or scared at all. Where I might have fumbled over my words in the past, I speak normally and even if I do fumble over my words it doesn't stop my momentum whenever I speak.

I used to be a bit clumsy, the kind of person who trips on the sidewalk because they are thinking about nonsense while walking around, or the dude that walks into a lantern pole while admireing his hot girlfriend as they walk together (actually happened in the past). The dude that drops a present on accident due to being excited to give it and loosing control of his dexterity like an idiot (also actually happened... Literally as I walked in to give it too the person as well). Maybe a bit clumsy is an understatement, I was pretty damn clumsy.

Those kinds of fumbles don't happen at all anymore due to this void state. This heightened awareness completely got rid of any clumsyness I exhibited in the past.

So while to others I might appear as absend minded, it's the exact opposite. I am much more aware than the average person due to this void state. Other meditations build upon this and further improve this in many ways, but void is the foundation to put it all together and keep yourself on the right track.

There is a Satanist I know who has completely lost himself due to not controlling his mind properly while working on advanced meditations such as Kundalini Yoga and what not. Void meditation is needed to keep yourself in balance and protect yourself from delusions, without void meditation you can easily fall into delusions and loose yourself entirely like this former SS friend of mine.
 
I couldn't agree more, Voice of Enki.

That absent mindedness, along with what Another said here about slowing thoughts happens to me after I get a good exercise often with the flowing energy partly depleted yet rectifying itself due to relaxation later.

Eventually I found ways to focus and ease into or zone out to register stimuli and let unneeded thoughts dissipate.

In the beginning I feared I was loosing my mind on days it became more automated and that I was just slugish, but it was only when induced through exhaustion that I was depleted by using that vice.

Exercise wouldn't be much of a bother to the mind if it was lighter or if I had added some foundation after to reload my reservoir.

As I achieved the state in the way intended through taking advantage of spontaneous zoning out, I began to realize what was spoken above, regarding the dynamic union of activity and passivity.

It was in time decided that I was no longer reflecting the delepted forced mind but a mind which could absorb and vent into the subconscious what was unneeded.

So I had similar symptoms of behavioral alteration, the reservation, firm yet polite demeanor, curious yet patient, and I have generally grown into a sensitive look every angle kind of guy but void added natural organization to my previous chaotic vacillations.

Though to be honest, I was beginning to lose parts of myself for other reasons like being cooped up in this house and though going outside I was rarely social.

I was a hyper but shyish kid, who grew a lot more open then wuickly railed off in recent years to a reserved madness.

The combination of extensive void and aura chakra cleansing, alignment, foundation absorption, directing, and circulation for my major routine that I gained a wavering confidence to be more of the "Hello (smile)" type.

It must have been more about my cleansing that my akwardness dissipated, especially when people automatically addressed me on my walks as well.

The thing with studying being easier is a paramount for me, being a scientific type, ironically enough mathematics were always a moderately annoying or dull challenge.

But every so often like a period of two years, I would subconsciously come back to such subjects only to find them much easier because my mind relaxed and rectified the information.

Now with actual voud however this has accelerate to only needing a few days or a weeks break to come back to a complicated equation set or counter intuitive processes.
 
..That moment when your whole reply disappears due to pressing backwards on the page instead of the text space...... I find myself lucky to know Void meditation in those times! ahahahhh x)


jxk2080,Wow! Everything you wrote is so ultimate & golden!!!! It's like THE sermon about Void meditation!
I am so stunned by all THIS! I truly have no words to describe my appreciation!!!!! This thread is so wonderful!

Void meditation is something that has always fascinated me but I have never found a sermon in the groups or forum with such extensive knowledge about it!

''Only a strong mind which can find interest in its own recreation of the true objective reality gains its entrance to a sublime subjectivity united with that objectivity.'' This whole sentence is so perfect!

Thanks you very much jxk2080, Magus Immortalis & voiceofenki for all this sheer information & experiences you shared^-^

voiceofenki, When reading your reply I could relate so much!!
People must think I am asleep with my eyes open x)
This is the same for me with being startled. Nothing can startle me even when I splash boiling oil on my arm at work. I already processed that the oil would hit me. When feeling the pain I am so focus that it just flows through my nervous system without resistance. I have also tried & achieve to slow/speed up my heart rate effectively. Same thing with the reflexes, learning stuff, almost only talking to people only to respond when they are speaking to me & no more clumsiness.^-^ (The thing with the gift really broke my heart in half ahahhhh:/ )

It's so damn satisfying to read someone else sharing their experiences about the benefits of Void meditation!!

This is just a guess but I think HP(S)s can copy a whole thread from the yahoo groups into the new forums & I'm sure this thread could really use some highlights due to its unfathomable amazingness!!!!
.

( I managed to get back bits and pieces of my lost typed text with this thread if anyone's interested https://www.reddit.com/r/LifeProTips/co ... a_form_on/ )
 
The anecdote referring to the diluted reaction to hot oil inflicting pain is yet another addition to the piercing of the veil of illusory expectation.

In addition to "realistic" expectations, people have exaggerations of something they are not prepared to handle, and this creates an emotion which acts as a medium for amplifying the oncoming stimuli.

If you focus on a situation with its raw components, such as the pain itself without the urge to react, you plug energy which would leak and exhaust you faster, had you decided to give the pain power through emotion.

I sit and void sometimes to ward off wisdom tooth pain by tuning into it.

These pains in my opinion are not the worst pain possible, but for me the most enduring or chronic and off putting aching Ive ever dealt with.

The pain of the inflammation and exposed nerves in addition to my throat and sinuses taking the malignant substances of it all really gets to ruin my enjoyment of the day.

After reading about a pain article, I drew my iwn conclusion that being actively tuned in then passively letting the stimuli flow is superior to wasting energy fighting it.

To be emotionally reactive to any pain either gives it power or diffuses your own like swimming against the current of a river.

A positive emotion is the equivalent of allowing the pain to be "enjoyed" like a challenge but in my opinion may adjust you to not only tolerating pain but subconsciously inviting future pain or prolonging it.

Therefore the best thing to do is tune into the stimuli itself and let the emotion of nothingness dissolve it.

Thus as activity and passivity go, you create a mode of emotion that reflects the condition of that pain, and cancels it out with reciprocative processes (goes one way then like a pendulum has to go the other way).

The purest emotions are modeled after this rejuvenated awareness, deciding what is necessary to survive, loving that which is positive to that survival, hating which is inevitably negative to the same.

Here is the article referred to where I drew my own conclusion. It is about the physiological differentiation of the sexes' coping mechanisms for pain. This can vary however. Its written in a gag tonality so there is exaggerated effect.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking ... n-too.html
 
The anecdote referring to the diluted reaction to hot oil inflicting pain is yet another addition to the piercing of the veil of illusory expectation.

In addition to "realistic" expectations, people have exaggerations of something they are not prepared to handle, and this creates an emotion which acts as a medium for amplifying the oncoming stimuli.

If you focus on a situation with its raw components, such as the pain itself without the urge to react, you plug energy which would leak and exhaust you faster, had you decided to give the pain power through emotion.

I sit and void sometimes to ward off wisdom tooth pain by tuning into it.

These pains in my opinion are not the worst pain possible, but for me the most enduring or chronic and off putting aching Ive ever dealt with.

The pain of the inflammation and exposed nerves in addition to my throat and sinuses taking the malignant substances of it all really gets to ruin my enjoyment of the day.

After reading about a pain article, I drew my iwn conclusion that being actively tuned in then passively letting the stimuli flow is superior to wasting energy fighting it.

To be emotionally reactive to any pain either gives it power or diffuses your own like swimming against the current of a river.

A positive emotion is the equivalent of allowing the pain to be "enjoyed" like a challenge but in my opinion may adjust you to not only tolerating pain but subconsciously inviting future pain or prolonging it.

Therefore the best thing to do is tune into the stimuli itself and let the emotion of nothingness dissolve it.

Thus as activity and passivity go, you create a mode of emotion that reflects the condition of that pain, and cancels it out with reciprocative processes (goes one way then like a pendulum has to go the other way).

The purest emotions are modeled after this rejuvenated awareness, deciding what is necessary to survive, loving that which is positive to that survival, hating which is inevitably negative to the same.

Here is the article referred to where I drew my own conclusion. It is about the physiological differentiation of the sexes' coping mechanisms for pain. This can vary however. Its written in a gag tonality so there is exaggerated effect.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking ... n-too.html
 
jxk2080, I like the bit where you explain about being Void instead of trying to be positive when dealing with negative stuff like physical pain.
I always thought that as well and done the same.
Tuning in is exactly what I do when I feel some sort of pain.
It's like putting an Ether blanket on it.^-^
 
Well, yet another article actually said what we believe as well, namely that positive reinforcement may not always work, but constructive* realism does.

An affirmation which in the moment of suffering states that something bad is indeed happening but that you have the will to say fuck it and knock the problem over with desire and effort.

Its like the Rune Nauthiz, something Ive come to reflect on often now.

Happy positivity works only when the struggle is removed and all else is natural challenges we crave.
 
Nice, I really like Nauths and I've been using it a lot.
Because of its description on JOS but also I noticed I really like it without knowing why. Like, I would sometimes start vibrating it out of nowhere.
Then of course to not lose the energy affirming X times something like:

''The energies of (insert rune(s) here) are empowering me spiritually, physically and mentally at all times in a positive way for me.''

With AUM before and after affirmations.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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