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Hi Brothers and Sisters! Okay, this is a rather odd question, but I'm very serious about it, so I want serious answers here. What I'm wondering is, do the Daemons mind if you call on them to just, well, talk to them? I mean, do you have to have a specific reason to talk to a Daemon, or can it just be for a social call, as it were? The reason I ask is, I really,really would like to get to know Amon Ra, aka Marduk, but I can at this point think of no legitimate reason for me to summon him. But I would very much like to simply talk to him, learn from him, and express my love and respect for him. Would this be considered disrespectful, or a waste of Lord Marduk's time? I certainly do not want to offend him, or any of the Gods in that way. I know they are all extremely busy, but nonetheless...Hail Satan always!   Ceridwyn
 
that is a good question i dont know about marduk but pazuzu has not told me it is disrespectfull. but i dont know marduk so i cant say if he would find it disrespectfull or not .


To: [email protected]
From: apocalypseofjon@...
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:35:42 -0700
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Kind of an odd question

 
Hi Brothers and Sisters! Okay, this is a rather odd question, but I'm very serious about it, so I want serious answers here. What I'm wondering is, do the Daemons mind if you call on them to just, well, talk to them? I mean, do you have to have a specific reason to talk to a Daemon, or can it just be for a social call, as it were? The reason I ask is, I really,really would like to get to know Amon Ra, aka Marduk, but I can at this point think of no legitimate reason for me to summon him. But I would very much like to simply talk to him, learn from him, and express my love and respect for him. Would this be considered disrespectful, or a waste of Lord Marduk's time? I certainly do not want to offend him, or any of the Gods in that way. I know they are all extremely busy, but nonetheless...Hail Satan always!   Ceridwyn
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Okay OKay OKay....I can't stand it anymore....Summoning is not something you just "think about" and it happens....Its not like ordering a hamburger at a drive thru, "Yessss, I want one Beelzebub, and an order of fries....and they certainly are not "SOCIAL CALLS"...I mean really?? Really??? These are infinite DIVINE HOLY BEINGS, with Endless Power and Endless Knowledge, and you think you can just think about, just meditate, or just make a social call??? Where is your Reverence for these Beings, and our forefathers. Summoning Takes A Vast Knowledge of the Occult, It requires certain Astronomical Alignment, Certain Preliminary Gifts, Certain Spells, Certain Hand Made Rings, Amulets, Talismans, which also have to be made during certain Astronomical Alignments with Certain Spells. REAL SUMMONERS MAY SPEND MONTHS, EVEN WHOLE SEASONS, preparing for a Summoning.. Our Forefathers planned these HOLY REVERENT OCCURENCES for the Whole Village to Witness....Anything you meditate into "existence" or "imagine", is just that IMAGINARY, a part of YOUR Subconscience...Believe me if you SUMMON a DAEMON you will know it for sure, no mistaking, cause "HE/SHE", Gender is our concept, will be there in ACTUAL FORM, in CORPOREAL FORM....Look I admire most of you but come on guys, WHen we start asking if its okay to ask for a social call, its time to start weed eating.....Bless the REAL summoners, keep it real, and HAIL to S.a.D.o.H :.. From: Allison Passino <apocalypseofjon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 7:35:42 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Kind of an odd question

  Hi Brothers and Sisters! Okay, this is a rather odd question, but I'm very serious about it, so I want serious answers here. What I'm wondering is, do the Daemons mind if you call on them to just, well, talk to them? I mean, do you have to have a specific reason to talk to a Daemon, or can it just be for a social call, as it were? The reason I ask is, I really,really would like to get to know Amon Ra, aka Marduk, but I can at this point think of no legitimate reason for me to summon him. But I would very much like to simply talk to him, learn from him, and express my love and respect for him. Would this be considered disrespectful, or a waste of Lord Marduk's time? I certainly do not want to offend him, or any of the Gods in that way. I know they are all extremely busy, but nonetheless...Hail Satan always!   Ceridwyn
 
Dude, I bloody know that, okay? I just would like to speak with him.
You obviously misconstrued what I said.

On 9/11/10, chase keplinger <chase_keplinger2003@... wrote:
Okay OKay OKay....I can't stand it anymore....Summoning is not something you
just "think about" and it happens....Its not like ordering a hamburger at a
drive thru, "Yessss, I want one Beelzebub, and an order of fries....and they
certainly are not "SOCIAL CALLS"...I mean really?? Really??? These are
infinite
DIVINE HOLY BEINGS, with Endless Power and Endless Knowledge, and you think
you
can just think about, just meditate, or just make a social call??? Where is
your
Reverence for these Beings, and our forefathers. Summoning Takes A Vast
Knowledge of the Occult, It requires certain Astronomical Alignment, Certain
Preliminary Gifts, Certain Spells, Certain Hand Made Rings, Amulets,
Talismans,
which also have to be made during certain Astronomical Alignments with
Certain
Spells. REAL SUMMONERS MAY SPEND MONTHS, EVEN WHOLE SEASONS, preparing for a
Summoning.. Our Forefathers planned these HOLY REVERENT OCCURENCES for the
Whole
Village to Witness....Anything you meditate into "existence" or "imagine",
is
just that IMAGINARY, a part of YOUR Subconscience...Believe me if you SUMMON
a
DAEMON you will know it for sure, no mistaking, cause "HE/SHE", Gender is
our
concept, will be there in ACTUAL FORM, in CORPOREAL FORM....Look I admire
most
of you but come on guys, WHen we start asking if its okay to ask for a
social
call, its time to start weed eating.....Bless the REAL summoners, keep it
real,
and HAIL to S.a.D.o.H :..
________________________________
From: Allison Passino <apocalypseofjon@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 7:35:42 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Kind of an odd question


Hi Brothers and Sisters! Okay, this is a rather odd question, but I'm very
serious about it, so I want serious answers here. What I'm wondering is, do
the
Daemons mind if you call on them to just, well, talk to them? I mean, do you
have to have a specific reason to talk to a Daemon, or can it just be for a
social call, as it were? The reason I ask is, I really,really would like to
get
to know Amon Ra, aka Marduk, but I can at this point think of no legitimate
reason for me to summon him. But I would very much like to simply talk to
him,
learn from him, and express my love and respect for him. Would this be
considered disrespectful, or a waste of Lord Marduk's time? I certainly do
not
want to offend him, or any of the Gods in that way. I know they are all
extremely busy, but nonetheless...Hail Satan always!

Ceridwyn
 
I agree, summoning shouldn't be used just for "shooting the breeze" with a Demon.

You should focus on Enki first,once you've gotten a strong bond, and close connection with Father Satan, then start invoking Amon Ra's energy to grow closer to Him. That would probably be best to do before actually summoning Him.

If you think you feel close to Him because you think He's your GD, There is a page about how to find your Guardian, I think it's on the Satanic Gay Community website.

....yea Chase, you should summon that particular Demon in the hour of the planet that He/She rules, but you don't need special talismen, rings or amulets. We're not LaVeyns, we don't rely on props. If you want to be aware of the Gods when you summon Them, you need to work on advancing your soul.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], chase keplinger <chase_keplinger2003@... wrote:

Okay OKay OKay....I can't stand it anymore....Summoning is not something you
just "think about" and it happens....Its not like ordering a hamburger at a
drive thru, "Yessss, I want one Beelzebub, and an order of fries....and they
certainly are not "SOCIAL CALLS"...I mean really?? Really??? These are infinite
DIVINE HOLY BEINGS, with Endless Power and Endless Knowledge, and you think you
can just think about, just meditate, or just make a social call??? Where is your
Reverence for these Beings, and our forefathers. Summoning Takes A Vast
Knowledge of the Occult, It requires certain Astronomical Alignment, Certain
Preliminary Gifts, Certain Spells, Certain Hand Made Rings, Amulets, Talismans,
which also have to be made during certain Astronomical Alignments with Certain
Spells. REAL SUMMONERS MAY SPEND MONTHS, EVEN WHOLE SEASONS, preparing for a
Summoning.. Our Forefathers planned these HOLY REVERENT OCCURENCES for the Whole
Village to Witness....Anything you meditate into "existence" or "imagine", is
just that IMAGINARY, a part of YOUR Subconscience...Believe me if you SUMMON a
DAEMON you will know it for sure, no mistaking, cause "HE/SHE", Gender is our
concept, will be there in ACTUAL FORM, in CORPOREAL FORM....Look I admire most
of you but come on guys, WHen we start asking if its okay to ask for a social
call, its time to start weed eating.....Bless the REAL summoners, keep it real,
and HAIL to S.a.D.o.H :..
________________________________
From: Allison Passino <apocalypseofjon@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 7:35:42 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Kind of an odd question

 
Hi Brothers and Sisters! Okay, this is a rather odd question, but I'm very
serious about it, so I want serious answers here. What I'm wondering is, do the
Daemons mind if you call on them to just, well, talk to them? I mean, do you
have to have a specific reason to talk to a Daemon, or can it just be for a
social call, as it were? The reason I ask is, I really,really would like to get
to know Amon Ra, aka Marduk, but I can at this point think of no legitimate
reason for me to summon him. But I would very much like to simply talk to him,
learn from him, and express my love and respect for him. Would this be
considered disrespectful, or a waste of Lord Marduk's time? I certainly do not
want to offend him, or any of the Gods in that way. I know they are all
extremely busy, but nonetheless...Hail Satan always!
 
Ceridwyn
 
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What sort of non-sense is this. Psychics don't need anything like props to practice magick or even see beings from the other side or other dimensions.

Siatris <rammesses666@... wrote:

I agree, summoning shouldn't be used just for "shooting the breeze" with a Demon.

You should focus on Enki first,once you've gotten a strong bond, and close connection with Father Satan, then start invoking Amon Ra's energy to grow closer to Him. That would probably be best to do before actually summoning Him.

If you think you feel close to Him because you think He's your GD, There is a page about how to find your Guardian, I think it's on the Satanic Gay Community website.

....yea Chase, you should summon that particular Demon in the hour of the planet that He/She rules, but you don't need special talismen, rings or amulets. We're not LaVeyns, we don't rely on props. If you want to be aware of the Gods when you summon Them, you need to work on advancing your soul.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], chase keplinger <chase_keplinger2003@... wrote:

Okay OKay OKay....I can't stand it anymore....Summoning is not something you
just "think about" and it happens....Its not like ordering a hamburger at a
drive thru, "Yessss, I want one Beelzebub, and an order of fries....and they
certainly are not "SOCIAL CALLS"...I mean really?? Really??? These are infinite
DIVINE HOLY BEINGS, with Endless Power and Endless Knowledge, and you think you
can just think about, just meditate, or just make a social call??? Where is your
Reverence for these Beings, and our forefathers. Summoning Takes A Vast
Knowledge of the Occult, It requires certain Astronomical Alignment, Certain
Preliminary Gifts, Certain Spells, Certain Hand Made Rings, Amulets, Talismans,
which also have to be made during certain Astronomical Alignments with Certain
Spells. REAL SUMMONERS MAY SPEND MONTHS, EVEN WHOLE SEASONS, preparing for a
Summoning.. Our Forefathers planned these HOLY REVERENT OCCURENCES for the Whole
Village to Witness....Anything you meditate into "existence" or "imagine", is
just that IMAGINARY, a part of YOUR Subconscience...Believe me if you SUMMON a
DAEMON you will know it for sure, no mistaking, cause "HE/SHE", Gender is our
concept, will be there in ACTUAL FORM, in CORPOREAL FORM....Look I admire most
of you but come on guys, WHen we start asking if its okay to ask for a social
call, its time to start weed eating.....Bless the REAL summoners, keep it real,
and HAIL to S.a.D.o.H :..
________________________________
From: Allison Passino <apocalypseofjon@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 7:35:42 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Kind of an odd question

 
Hi Brothers and Sisters! Okay, this is a rather odd question, but I'm very
serious about it, so I want serious answers here. What I'm wondering is, do the
Daemons mind if you call on them to just, well, talk to them? I mean, do you
have to have a specific reason to talk to a Daemon, or can it just be for a
social call, as it were? The reason I ask is, I really,really would like to get
to know Amon Ra, aka Marduk, but I can at this point think of no legitimate
reason for me to summon him. But I would very much like to simply talk to him,
learn from him, and express my love and respect for him. Would this be
considered disrespectful, or a waste of Lord Marduk's time? I certainly do not
want to offend him, or any of the Gods in that way. I know they are all
extremely busy, but nonetheless...Hail Satan always!
 
Ceridwyn
 
Allison,

I'd advise just asking him- Marduk.

Maybe you don't realize this but you do have a reason for summoning him- to develop rapport, emotional connection. Relationships are good things to have.


Fuck all these people and their shoulds and shouldn'ts. If you want to get to know Marduk and he's cool with it, then do it.



Isn't Satanism about enjoying life? Being free?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@... wrote:

Dude, I bloody know that, okay? I just would like to speak with him.
You obviously misconstrued what I said.

On 9/11/10, chase keplinger <chase_keplinger2003@... wrote:
Okay OKay OKay....I can't stand it anymore....Summoning is not something you
just "think about" and it happens....Its not like ordering a hamburger at a
drive thru, "Yessss, I want one Beelzebub, and an order of fries....and they
certainly are not "SOCIAL CALLS"...I mean really?? Really??? These are
infinite
DIVINE HOLY BEINGS, with Endless Power and Endless Knowledge, and you think
you
can just think about, just meditate, or just make a social call??? Where is
your
Reverence for these Beings, and our forefathers. Summoning Takes A Vast
Knowledge of the Occult, It requires certain Astronomical Alignment, Certain
Preliminary Gifts, Certain Spells, Certain Hand Made Rings, Amulets,
Talismans,
which also have to be made during certain Astronomical Alignments with
Certain
Spells. REAL SUMMONERS MAY SPEND MONTHS, EVEN WHOLE SEASONS, preparing for a
Summoning.. Our Forefathers planned these HOLY REVERENT OCCURENCES for the
Whole
Village to Witness....Anything you meditate into "existence" or "imagine",
is
just that IMAGINARY, a part of YOUR Subconscience...Believe me if you SUMMON
a
DAEMON you will know it for sure, no mistaking, cause "HE/SHE", Gender is
our
concept, will be there in ACTUAL FORM, in CORPOREAL FORM....Look I admire
most
of you but come on guys, WHen we start asking if its okay to ask for a
social
call, its time to start weed eating.....Bless the REAL summoners, keep it
real,
and HAIL to S.a.D.o.H :..
________________________________
From: Allison Passino <apocalypseofjon@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 7:35:42 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Kind of an odd question


Hi Brothers and Sisters! Okay, this is a rather odd question, but I'm very
serious about it, so I want serious answers here. What I'm wondering is, do
the
Daemons mind if you call on them to just, well, talk to them? I mean, do you
have to have a specific reason to talk to a Daemon, or can it just be for a
social call, as it were? The reason I ask is, I really,really would like to
get
to know Amon Ra, aka Marduk, but I can at this point think of no legitimate
reason for me to summon him. But I would very much like to simply talk to
him,
learn from him, and express my love and respect for him. Would this be
considered disrespectful, or a waste of Lord Marduk's time? I certainly do
not
want to offend him, or any of the Gods in that way. I know they are all
extremely busy, but nonetheless...Hail Satan always!

Ceridwyn
 
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@... wrote:
Allison,

I'd advise just asking him- Marduk.

Maybe you don't realize this but you do have a reason for summoning him- to develop rapport, emotional connection. Relationships are good things to have.


Fuck all these people and their shoulds and shouldn'ts. If you want to get to know Marduk and he's cool with it, then do it.



Isn't Satanism about enjoying life? Being free?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@ wrote:

Dude, I bloody know that, okay? I just would like to speak with him.
You obviously misconstrued what I said.

On 9/11/10, chase keplinger <chase_keplinger2003@ wrote:
Okay OKay OKay....I can't stand it anymore....Summoning is not something you
just "think about" and it happens....Its not like ordering a hamburger at a
drive thru, "Yessss, I want one Beelzebub, and an order of fries....and they
certainly are not "SOCIAL CALLS"...I mean really?? Really??? These are
infinite
DIVINE HOLY BEINGS, with Endless Power and Endless Knowledge, and you think
you
can just think about, just meditate, or just make a social call??? Where is
your
Reverence for these Beings, and our forefathers. Summoning Takes A Vast
Knowledge of the Occult, It requires certain Astronomical Alignment, Certain
Preliminary Gifts, Certain Spells, Certain Hand Made Rings, Amulets,
Talismans,
which also have to be made during certain Astronomical Alignments with
Certain
Spells. REAL SUMMONERS MAY SPEND MONTHS, EVEN WHOLE SEASONS, preparing for a
Summoning.. Our Forefathers planned these HOLY REVERENT OCCURENCES for the
Whole
Village to Witness....Anything you meditate into "existence" or "imagine",
is
just that IMAGINARY, a part of YOUR Subconscience...Believe me if you SUMMON
a
DAEMON you will know it for sure, no mistaking, cause "HE/SHE", Gender is
our
concept, will be there in ACTUAL FORM, in CORPOREAL FORM....Look I admire
most
of you but come on guys, WHen we start asking if its okay to ask for a
social
call, its time to start weed eating.....Bless the REAL summoners, keep it
real,
and HAIL to S.a.D.o.H :..
________________________________
From: Allison Passino <apocalypseofjon@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 7:35:42 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Kind of an odd question


Hi Brothers and Sisters! Okay, this is a rather odd question, but I'm very
serious about it, so I want serious answers here. What I'm wondering is, do
the
Daemons mind if you call on them to just, well, talk to them? I mean, do you
have to have a specific reason to talk to a Daemon, or can it just be for a
social call, as it were? The reason I ask is, I really,really would like to
get
to know Amon Ra, aka Marduk, but I can at this point think of no legitimate
reason for me to summon him. But I would very much like to simply talk to
him,
learn from him, and express my love and respect for him. Would this be
considered disrespectful, or a waste of Lord Marduk's time? I certainly do
not
want to offend him, or any of the Gods in that way. I know they are all
extremely busy, but nonetheless...Hail Satan always!

Ceridwyn
Quite long but good info


I have what you would call a gift of sorts I have no need of the conjuration I simplly speak to them as I would speak to person on the street though with more respect of course I have spoke with Enlil many times Azazel a couple of times Astaroth I have spoke with as well a lot more then any other usually they will tell me they are bussy or not though I don't know if this may work for you. As we are all different. I can mostlly speak to beings on different planets not his one as its a bit harder .
and you know I can tell I am not crazy I hear the voice i noramlly talk in as my own then I hear other ones I adress whom I wish to speak to however.

,
Nero
 
I agree with jonathon completely
From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 13 September, 2010 2:29:12 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Kind of an odd question

  Allison,

I'd advise just asking him- Marduk.

Maybe you don't realize this but you do have a reason for summoning him- to develop rapport, emotional connection. Relationships are good things to have.

Fuck all these people and their shoulds and shouldn'ts. If you want to get to know Marduk and he's cool with it, then do it.

Isn't Satanism about enjoying life? Being free?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@... wrote:

Dude, I bloody know that, okay? I just would like to speak with him.
You obviously misconstrued what I said.

On 9/11/10, chase keplinger <chase_keplinger2003@... wrote:
Okay OKay OKay....I can't stand it anymore....Summoning is not something you
just "think about" and it happens....Its not like ordering a hamburger at a
drive thru, "Yessss, I want one Beelzebub, and an order of fries....and they
certainly are not "SOCIAL CALLS"...I mean really?? Really??? These are
infinite
DIVINE HOLY BEINGS, with Endless Power and Endless Knowledge, and you think
you
can just think about, just meditate, or just make a social call??? Where is
your
Reverence for these Beings, and our forefathers. Summoning Takes A Vast
Knowledge of the Occult, It requires certain Astronomical Alignment, Certain
Preliminary Gifts, Certain Spells, Certain Hand Made Rings, Amulets,
Talismans,
which also have to be made during certain Astronomical Alignments with
Certain
Spells. REAL SUMMONERS MAY SPEND MONTHS, EVEN WHOLE SEASONS, preparing for a
Summoning.. Our Forefathers planned these HOLY REVERENT OCCURENCES for the
Whole
Village to Witness....Anything you meditate into "existence" or "imagine",
is
just that IMAGINARY, a part of YOUR Subconscience...Believe me if you SUMMON
a
DAEMON you will know it for sure, no mistaking, cause "HE/SHE", Gender is
our
concept, will be there in ACTUAL FORM, in CORPOREAL FORM....Look I admire
most
of you but come on guys, WHen we start asking if its okay to ask for a
social
call, its time to start weed eating.....Bless the REAL summoners, keep it
real,
and HAIL to S.a.D.o.H :..
________________________________
From: Allison Passino <apocalypseofjon@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 7:35:42 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Kind of an odd question


Hi Brothers and Sisters! Okay, this is a rather odd question, but I'm very
serious about it, so I want serious answers here. What I'm wondering is, do
the
Daemons mind if you call on them to just, well, talk to them? I mean, do you
have to have a specific reason to talk to a Daemon, or can it just be for a
social call, as it were? The reason I ask is, I really,really would like to
get
to know Amon Ra, aka Marduk, but I can at this point think of no legitimate
reason for me to summon him. But I would very much like to simply talk to
him,
learn from him, and express my love and respect for him. Would this be
considered disrespectful, or a waste of Lord Marduk's time? I certainly do
not
want to offend him, or any of the Gods in that way. I know they are all
extremely busy, but nonetheless...Hail Satan always!

Ceridwyn
 
 
I'd like to put my two cents in here if I may.

Summoning the gods IS a very serious business and needs to be done with respect, maturity, and indeed, with a specific purpose in mind. The gods are busy, and to call upon them to simply say "Hello" isn't exactly appropriate.

With that being said, contacting a Demon for the purpose of establishing contact, making introductions, and making oneself available for service or tutelage IS ABSOLUTELY ACCEPTABLE. It should however, be done only once. After the initial introductions, you should have a specific reason for summoning that Demon again.

Basically, before you start the motions of summoning a Demon, one thing you should seriously consider is "Am I wasting this Demon's time?". If you even have to think about it for more than a few seconds - stop, and reevaluate.

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Blaise Parnell <blaiseparnell@... wrote:

I agree with jonathon completely



________________________________
From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Mon, 13 September, 2010 2:29:12 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Kind of an odd question


Allison,

I'd advise just asking him- Marduk.

Maybe you don't realize this but you do have a reason for summoning him- to
develop rapport, emotional connection. Relationships are good things to have.

Fuck all these people and their shoulds and shouldn'ts. If you want to get to
know Marduk and he's cool with it, then do it.

Isn't Satanism about enjoying life? Being free?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@ wrote:

Dude, I bloody know that, okay? I just would like to speak with him.
You obviously misconstrued what I said.

On 9/11/10, chase keplinger <chase_keplinger2003@ wrote:
Okay OKay OKay....I can't stand it anymore....Summoning is not something you
just "think about" and it happens....Its not like ordering a hamburger at a
drive thru, "Yessss, I want one Beelzebub, and an order of fries....and they
certainly are not "SOCIAL CALLS"...I mean really?? Really??? These are
infinite
DIVINE HOLY BEINGS, with Endless Power and Endless Knowledge, and you think
you
can just think about, just meditate, or just make a social call??? Where is
your
Reverence for these Beings, and our forefathers. Summoning Takes A Vast
Knowledge of the Occult, It requires certain Astronomical Alignment, Certain
Preliminary Gifts, Certain Spells, Certain Hand Made Rings, Amulets,
Talismans,
which also have to be made during certain Astronomical Alignments with
Certain
Spells. REAL SUMMONERS MAY SPEND MONTHS, EVEN WHOLE SEASONS, preparing for a
Summoning.. Our Forefathers planned these HOLY REVERENT OCCURENCES for the
Whole
Village to Witness....Anything you meditate into "existence" or "imagine",
is
just that IMAGINARY, a part of YOUR Subconscience...Believe me if you SUMMON
a
DAEMON you will know it for sure, no mistaking, cause "HE/SHE", Gender is
our
concept, will be there in ACTUAL FORM, in CORPOREAL FORM....Look I admire
most
of you but come on guys, WHen we start asking if its okay to ask for a
social
call, its time to start weed eating.....Bless the REAL summoners, keep it
real,
and HAIL to S.a.D.o.H :..
________________________________
From: Allison Passino <apocalypseofjon@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 7:35:42 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Kind of an odd question


Hi Brothers and Sisters! Okay, this is a rather odd question, but I'm very
serious about it, so I want serious answers here. What I'm wondering is, do
the
Daemons mind if you call on them to just, well, talk to them? I mean, do you
have to have a specific reason to talk to a Daemon, or can it just be for a
social call, as it were? The reason I ask is, I really,really would like to
get
to know Amon Ra, aka Marduk, but I can at this point think of no legitimate
reason for me to summon him. But I would very much like to simply talk to
him,
learn from him, and express my love and respect for him. Would this be
considered disrespectful, or a waste of Lord Marduk's time? I certainly do
not
want to offend him, or any of the Gods in that way. I know they are all
extremely busy, but nonetheless...Hail Satan always!

Ceridwyn
 
Okay. Thank you for clarifying. The last thing I wish to do is offend
any of them. Hail Satan!

On 9/13/10, searchingeast666 <searchingeast666@... wrote:
I'd like to put my two cents in here if I may.

Summoning the gods IS a very serious business and needs to be done with
respect, maturity, and indeed, with a specific purpose in mind. The gods are
busy, and to call upon them to simply say "Hello" isn't exactly appropriate.

With that being said, contacting a Demon for the purpose of establishing
contact, making introductions, and making oneself available for service or
tutelage IS ABSOLUTELY ACCEPTABLE. It should however, be done only once.
After the initial introductions, you should have a specific reason for
summoning that Demon again.

Basically, before you start the motions of summoning a Demon, one thing you
should seriously consider is "Am I wasting this Demon's time?". If you even
have to think about it for more than a few seconds - stop, and reevaluate.

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Blaise Parnell <blaiseparnell@...
wrote:

I agree with jonathon completely



________________________________
From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Mon, 13 September, 2010 2:29:12 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Kind of an odd question


Allison,

I'd advise just asking him- Marduk.

Maybe you don't realize this but you do have a reason for summoning him-
to
develop rapport, emotional connection. Relationships are good things to
have.

Fuck all these people and their shoulds and shouldn'ts. If you want to get
to
know Marduk and he's cool with it, then do it.

Isn't Satanism about enjoying life? Being free?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@ wrote:

Dude, I bloody know that, okay? I just would like to speak with him.
You obviously misconstrued what I said.

On 9/11/10, chase keplinger <chase_keplinger2003@ wrote:
Okay OKay OKay....I can't stand it anymore....Summoning is not
something you
just "think about" and it happens....Its not like ordering a hamburger
at a
drive thru, "Yessss, I want one Beelzebub, and an order of
fries....and they
certainly are not "SOCIAL CALLS"...I mean really?? Really??? These are
infinite
DIVINE HOLY BEINGS, with Endless Power and Endless Knowledge, and you
think
you
can just think about, just meditate, or just make a social call???
Where is
your
Reverence for these Beings, and our forefathers. Summoning Takes A
Vast
Knowledge of the Occult, It requires certain Astronomical Alignment,
Certain
Preliminary Gifts, Certain Spells, Certain Hand Made Rings, Amulets,
Talismans,
which also have to be made during certain Astronomical Alignments with
Certain
Spells. REAL SUMMONERS MAY SPEND MONTHS, EVEN WHOLE SEASONS, preparing
for a
Summoning.. Our Forefathers planned these HOLY REVERENT OCCURENCES for
the
Whole
Village to Witness....Anything you meditate into "existence" or
"imagine",
is
just that IMAGINARY, a part of YOUR Subconscience...Believe me if you
SUMMON
a
DAEMON you will know it for sure, no mistaking, cause "HE/SHE", Gender
is
our
concept, will be there in ACTUAL FORM, in CORPOREAL FORM....Look I
admire
most
of you but come on guys, WHen we start asking if its okay to ask for a
social
call, its time to start weed eating.....Bless the REAL summoners, keep
it
real,
and HAIL to S.a.D.o.H :..
________________________________
From: Allison Passino <apocalypseofjon@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 7:35:42 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Kind of an odd question


Hi Brothers and Sisters! Okay, this is a rather odd question, but I'm
very
serious about it, so I want serious answers here. What I'm wondering
is, do
the
Daemons mind if you call on them to just, well, talk to them? I mean,
do you
have to have a specific reason to talk to a Daemon, or can it just be
for a
social call, as it were? The reason I ask is, I really,really would
like to
get
to know Amon Ra, aka Marduk, but I can at this point think of no
legitimate
reason for me to summon him. But I would very much like to simply talk
to
him,
learn from him, and express my love and respect for him. Would this be
considered disrespectful, or a waste of Lord Marduk's time? I
certainly do
not
want to offend him, or any of the Gods in that way. I know they are
all
extremely busy, but nonetheless...Hail Satan always!

Ceridwyn
 
I agree that its nonsense that you need props, rings or Amulets, etc to contact the gods but something made as a gift or to set the mood and out of respect and reverence for the gods I don't see a problem with that, just don't go out and spend a lot of money on buying a lot of fancy stuff thinking you can't do it without that (especially if you can't afford it), that sounds like the new age idea of trying to make money off peoples stupidity to me.
Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Kevin Tucker <theanimaniacs88@... wrote:

What sort of non-sense is this. Psychics don't need anything like props to practice magick or even see beings from the other side or other dimensions.

Siatris <rammesses666@... wrote:

I agree, summoning shouldn't be used just for "shooting the breeze" with a Demon.

You should focus on Enki first,once you've gotten a strong bond, and close connection with Father Satan, then start invoking Amon Ra's energy to grow closer to Him. That would probably be best to do before actually summoning Him.

If you think you feel close to Him because you think He's your GD, There is a page about how to find your Guardian, I think it's on the Satanic Gay Community website.

....yea Chase, you should summon that particular Demon in the hour of the planet that He/She rules, but you don't need special talismen, rings or amulets. We're not LaVeyns, we don't rely on props. If you want to be aware of the Gods when you summon Them, you need to work on advancing your soul.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], chase keplinger <chase_keplinger2003@ wrote:

Okay OKay OKay....I can't stand it anymore....Summoning is not something you
just "think about" and it happens....Its not like ordering a hamburger at a
drive thru, "Yessss, I want one Beelzebub, and an order of fries....and they
certainly are not "SOCIAL CALLS"...I mean really?? Really??? These are infinite
DIVINE HOLY BEINGS, with Endless Power and Endless Knowledge, and you think you
can just think about, just meditate, or just make a social call??? Where is your
Reverence for these Beings, and our forefathers. Summoning Takes A Vast
Knowledge of the Occult, It requires certain Astronomical Alignment, Certain
Preliminary Gifts, Certain Spells, Certain Hand Made Rings, Amulets, Talismans,
which also have to be made during certain Astronomical Alignments with Certain
Spells. REAL SUMMONERS MAY SPEND MONTHS, EVEN WHOLE SEASONS, preparing for a
Summoning.. Our Forefathers planned these HOLY REVERENT OCCURENCES for the Whole
Village to Witness....Anything you meditate into "existence" or "imagine", is
just that IMAGINARY, a part of YOUR Subconscience...Believe me if you SUMMON a
DAEMON you will know it for sure, no mistaking, cause "HE/SHE", Gender is our
concept, will be there in ACTUAL FORM, in CORPOREAL FORM....Look I admire most
of you but come on guys, WHen we start asking if its okay to ask for a social
call, its time to start weed eating.....Bless the REAL summoners, keep it real,
and HAIL to S.a.D.o.H :..
________________________________
From: Allison Passino <apocalypseofjon@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 7:35:42 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Kind of an odd question

 
Hi Brothers and Sisters! Okay, this is a rather odd question, but I'm very
serious about it, so I want serious answers here. What I'm wondering is, do the
Daemons mind if you call on them to just, well, talk to them? I mean, do you
have to have a specific reason to talk to a Daemon, or can it just be for a
social call, as it were? The reason I ask is, I really,really would like to get
to know Amon Ra, aka Marduk, but I can at this point think of no legitimate
reason for me to summon him. But I would very much like to simply talk to him,
learn from him, and express my love and respect for him. Would this be
considered disrespectful, or a waste of Lord Marduk's time? I certainly do not
want to offend him, or any of the Gods in that way. I know they are all
extremely busy, but nonetheless...Hail Satan always!
 
Ceridwyn
 
Attachments :
Of course it is serious. Each of the 72 demons also govern "primal" aspects of life and humanity, so when you invoke them, those aspects are amplified. The points along the spine are also related to the goetia. Useful to know when thinking about the kundalini (hint hint), when kundalini also is a part of freedom. Due to my personal study into these matters, kundalini being the primal aspect, also means it largely governs the unconscious powers and side of ourselves.

So YES...invoke with respect, as you'd want to respect yourself, because invocation also means calling the demons energy and making it a part of you..disrespecting the demon is the same as disrespecting yourself.

This is all common sense and no different than evocation vs invocation of negative vs positive energy. Negative energy invocation would be the same as disrespecting an invoked demon. So do it positively.




searchingeast666 <searchingeast666@... wrote:

I'd like to put my two cents in here if I may.

Summoning the gods IS a very serious business and needs to be done with respect, maturity, and indeed, with a specific purpose in mind. The gods are busy, and to call upon them to simply say "Hello" isn't exactly appropriate.

With that being said, contacting a Demon for the purpose of establishing contact, making introductions, and making oneself available for service or tutelage IS ABSOLUTELY ACCEPTABLE. It should however, be done only once. After the initial introductions, you should have a specific reason for summoning that Demon again.

Basically, before you start the motions of summoning a Demon, one thing you should seriously consider is "Am I wasting this Demon's time?". If you even have to think about it for more than a few seconds - stop, and reevaluate.

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Blaise Parnell <blaiseparnell@... wrote:

I agree with jonathon completely



________________________________
From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Mon, 13 September, 2010 2:29:12 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Kind of an odd question


Allison,

I'd advise just asking him- Marduk.

Maybe you don't realize this but you do have a reason for summoning him- to
develop rapport, emotional connection. Relationships are good things to have.

Fuck all these people and their shoulds and shouldn'ts. If you want to get to
know Marduk and he's cool with it, then do it.

Isn't Satanism about enjoying life? Being free?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@ wrote:

Dude, I bloody know that, okay? I just would like to speak with him.
You obviously misconstrued what I said.

On 9/11/10, chase keplinger <chase_keplinger2003@ wrote:
Okay OKay OKay....I can't stand it anymore....Summoning is not something you
just "think about" and it happens....Its not like ordering a hamburger at a
drive thru, "Yessss, I want one Beelzebub, and an order of fries....and they
certainly are not "SOCIAL CALLS"...I mean really?? Really??? These are
infinite
DIVINE HOLY BEINGS, with Endless Power and Endless Knowledge, and you think
you
can just think about, just meditate, or just make a social call??? Where is
your
Reverence for these Beings, and our forefathers. Summoning Takes A Vast
Knowledge of the Occult, It requires certain Astronomical Alignment, Certain
Preliminary Gifts, Certain Spells, Certain Hand Made Rings, Amulets,
Talismans,
which also have to be made during certain Astronomical Alignments with
Certain
Spells. REAL SUMMONERS MAY SPEND MONTHS, EVEN WHOLE SEASONS, preparing for a
Summoning.. Our Forefathers planned these HOLY REVERENT OCCURENCES for the
Whole
Village to Witness....Anything you meditate into "existence" or "imagine",
is
just that IMAGINARY, a part of YOUR Subconscience...Believe me if you SUMMON
a
DAEMON you will know it for sure, no mistaking, cause "HE/SHE", Gender is
our
concept, will be there in ACTUAL FORM, in CORPOREAL FORM....Look I admire
most
of you but come on guys, WHen we start asking if its okay to ask for a
social
call, its time to start weed eating.....Bless the REAL summoners, keep it
real,
and HAIL to S.a.D.o.H :..
________________________________
From: Allison Passino <apocalypseofjon@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 7:35:42 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Kind of an odd question


Hi Brothers and Sisters! Okay, this is a rather odd question, but I'm very
serious about it, so I want serious answers here. What I'm wondering is, do
the
Daemons mind if you call on them to just, well, talk to them? I mean, do you
have to have a specific reason to talk to a Daemon, or can it just be for a
social call, as it were? The reason I ask is, I really,really would like to
get
to know Amon Ra, aka Marduk, but I can at this point think of no legitimate
reason for me to summon him. But I would very much like to simply talk to
him,
learn from him, and express my love and respect for him. Would this be
considered disrespectful, or a waste of Lord Marduk's time? I certainly do
not
want to offend him, or any of the Gods in that way. I know they are all
extremely busy, but nonetheless...Hail Satan always!

Ceridwyn
 
Attachments :
Props for most people are training wheels. When you become good enough, you can make certain distinctions in an objects true power. The first thing you must realize is if you are a beginnr, lose the props right away, as it will do you far greater good in the long run. Focus on utilizing energy manipulation, meditation, psychic practices and varying forms of mind magick. "WED" yourself to your "own power."

This means a level of mastery above your current level, or at least a certain level to become very proficient or adept. Props are good "macrocosmic" helpers and "amplifiers" to manipulating your microcosmic (inner) world abilities. If you are already wedded to your own power, then it will be amplified by the mnemonic ritual tools which is good for organizing more complex tasks, especially if the tools in question are previously imbued magickally.



David <darkmonkey87@... wrote:

I agree that its nonsense that you need props, rings or Amulets, etc to contact the gods but something made as a gift or to set the mood and out of respect and reverence for the gods I don't see a problem with that, just don't go out and spend a lot of money on buying a lot of fancy stuff thinking you can't do it without that (especially if you can't afford it), that sounds like the new age idea of trying to make money off peoples stupidity to me.
Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Kevin Tucker <theanimaniacs88@... wrote:

What sort of non-sense is this. Psychics don't need anything like props to practice magick or even see beings from the other side or other dimensions.

Siatris <rammesses666@... wrote:

I agree, summoning shouldn't be used just for "shooting the breeze" with a Demon.

You should focus on Enki first,once you've gotten a strong bond, and close connection with Father Satan, then start invoking Amon Ra's energy to grow closer to Him. That would probably be best to do before actually summoning Him.

If you think you feel close to Him because you think He's your GD, There is a page about how to find your Guardian, I think it's on the Satanic Gay Community website.

....yea Chase, you should summon that particular Demon in the hour of the planet that He/She rules, but you don't need special talismen, rings or amulets. We're not LaVeyns, we don't rely on props. If you want to be aware of the Gods when you summon Them, you need to work on advancing your soul.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], chase keplinger <chase_keplinger2003@ wrote:

Okay OKay OKay....I can't stand it anymore....Summoning is not something you
just "think about" and it happens....Its not like ordering a hamburger at a
drive thru, "Yessss, I want one Beelzebub, and an order of fries....and they
certainly are not "SOCIAL CALLS"...I mean really?? Really??? These are infinite
DIVINE HOLY BEINGS, with Endless Power and Endless Knowledge, and you think you
can just think about, just meditate, or just make a social call??? Where is your
Reverence for these Beings, and our forefathers. Summoning Takes A Vast
Knowledge of the Occult, It requires certain Astronomical Alignment, Certain
Preliminary Gifts, Certain Spells, Certain Hand Made Rings, Amulets, Talismans,
which also have to be made during certain Astronomical Alignments with Certain
Spells. REAL SUMMONERS MAY SPEND MONTHS, EVEN WHOLE SEASONS, preparing for a
Summoning.. Our Forefathers planned these HOLY REVERENT OCCURENCES for the Whole
Village to Witness....Anything you meditate into "existence" or "imagine", is
just that IMAGINARY, a part of YOUR Subconscience...Believe me if you SUMMON a
DAEMON you will know it for sure, no mistaking, cause "HE/SHE", Gender is our
concept, will be there in ACTUAL FORM, in CORPOREAL FORM....Look I admire most
of you but come on guys, WHen we start asking if its okay to ask for a social
call, its time to start weed eating.....Bless the REAL summoners, keep it real,
and HAIL to S.a.D.o.H :..
________________________________
From: Allison Passino <apocalypseofjon@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 7:35:42 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Kind of an odd question

 
Hi Brothers and Sisters! Okay, this is a rather odd question, but I'm very
serious about it, so I want serious answers here. What I'm wondering is, do the
Daemons mind if you call on them to just, well, talk to them? I mean, do you
have to have a specific reason to talk to a Daemon, or can it just be for a
social call, as it were? The reason I ask is, I really,really would like to get
to know Amon Ra, aka Marduk, but I can at this point think of no legitimate
reason for me to summon him. But I would very much like to simply talk to him,
learn from him, and express my love and respect for him. Would this be
considered disrespectful, or a waste of Lord Marduk's time? I certainly do not
want to offend him, or any of the Gods in that way. I know they are all
extremely busy, but nonetheless...Hail Satan always!
 
Ceridwyn
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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