Jewish gay in nazi Germany

[namtar]

About Nazi regime closing gay bars and venues, dissolving gay associations, and closing gay newspapers and publications. The Nazi regime also arrested and tried thousands of gay men under Section 175 of the German Criminal Code. Did they do this not for all gay people, but because they we're jewish gay people following jewish consideration of being Gay, not their nature but jewish trash about omosexuality?

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

There were some high level officers who were gay. Being gay was not a problem.

What was punished were pedophiles, rapists, criminals.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

About Nazi regime closing gay bars and venues, dissolving gay associations, and closing gay newspapers and publications. The Nazi regime also arrested and tried thousands of gay men under Section 175 of the German Criminal Code. Did they do this not for all gay people, but because they we're jewish gay people following jewish consideration of being Gay, not their nature but jewish trash about omosexuality?

They weren’t against being gay in its natural form but rather jewish versions of homosexuality, transgenderism and propaganda.

They were basically against the current day “LGBT” as a jewish propaganda and organization.

 

[namtar]

There were some high level officers who were gay. Being gay was not a problem.

What was punished were pedophiles, rapists, criminals.

Thanks for the answer. So closing specific newspapers and bars was Not Something against gay but against pédophiles ecc..gay pédophiles and other I presume

 

[namtar]

There were some high level officers who were gay. Being gay was not a problem.

What was punished were pedophiles, rapists, criminals.

I think That could have been done (closing gay Bars ecc) to remove the "categorization" of gays, why a gay bar or a gay newspapers? It was Like they we're different. They are normal people Like Others. Maybe that was the point, treat thèm Not as différent people or specific kinds of people.

 

[Sindweller]

The Nazi regime also arrested and tried thousands of gay men under Section 175 of the German Criminal Code.

The paragraph 175 was about sex offenders, not homosexuals in general. Read it closely:

Paragraph 175: A male who commits a sex offense with another male or allows himself to be used by another male for a sex offense shall be punished with imprisonment. Where a party was not yet twenty-one years of age at the time of the act, the court may in especially minor cases refrain from punishment.

Paragraph 175a: Penal servitude up to 10 years or, where there are mitigating circumstances, imprisonment of not less than three months shall apply to: (1) a male who, with violence or the threat of violence to body and soul or life, compels another male to commit a sex offense with him or to allow himself to be abused for a sex offense; (2) a male who, by abusing a relationship of dependence based upon service, employment or subordination, induces another male to commit a sex offense with him or to allow himself to be abused for a sex offense; (3) a male over 21 years of age who seduces a male person under twenty-one years to commit a sex offense with him or to allow himself to be abused for a sex offense; (4) a male who publicly commits a sex offense with males or allows himself to be abused by males for a sex offense or offers himself for the same.

Paragraph 175b: An unnatural sex act committed by humans with animals is punishable by imprisonment; the loss of civil rights might also be imposed.

Note that it all talks about committing sex offenses, not merely having sex. Sex offenses are things like incest, rape, pedophilia e.t.c.

Compare it to the original paragraph 175 that existed before the National Socialists came to power:

An unnatural sex act committed between persons of male sex or by humans with animals is punishable by imprisonment; the loss of civil rights might also be imposed.

So, this clearly talks about an "unnatural sex act" not a "sex offense". Note that this wording is the same as the paragraph 175b above while the part above it talks about "sex offenses" with animals. Do you not think that they would keep that wording if they wanted to condemn homosexuality in general?

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

I think That could have been done (closing gay Bars ecc) to remove the "categorization" of gays, why a gay bar or a gay newspapers? It was Like they we're different. They are normal people Like Others. Maybe that was the point, treat thèm Not as différent people or specific kinds of people.

You see now in America and Europe that all of these "LGBT" political groups are all evil and subversive. Their actions are to destabilize and erase our civilization, to install a jewish communist government from the ashes. They trick gay people into supporting them, and use these people like soldiers against the society.

This is why these were shut down. Just like all other subversive communist groups which intended to destroy their civilization were also shut down.

 

[Ælberiigor]

The word homosexual hide there was an epidemic of deviant people like this.
These people already try to impose their views to escape what they reject in themselves.
They are psychiatric cases and their influence is dangerous, especially for children and teenagers.

 

[acedia_____]

The word homosexual hide there was an epidemic of deviant people like this.
These people already try to impose their views to escape what they reject in themselves.
They are psychiatric cases and their influence is dangerous, especially for children and teenagers.

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The other day I watched a promotion video about an upcoming theatrical show here in greece, it showed the actor dressed up as a woman and said: "i am my wife, my father was a nazi: a monster" it is about a trans woman in the early 1950s and how "evil" things were and all that propaganda stuff they brainwash with. What makes me angry is that even the summary is promoting this stuff (even about a theatrical act) while it's purpose is only to explain what you're about to watch with no opinions included in it and people do not doubt anything... I'm convinced they are doing it on purpose, calculated it and know it's working. They are aware of the opposide side (us). People just believe everything on the media, especially if that's what they want to hear. I don't know, I see everyday that the situation in my country as a collective is not making any progress yet and if you try to explain to any of them, not necessarily lgbt etc, even basic logic stuff they immediately get offfended and call you names. (also that's why I've stopped socialising long time ago and keep my opinions underground and hidden and I'm very glad that I joined this forum)

 

[Ælberiigor]

I'm very glad that I joined this forum

Welcome among us

 

[WoadWarrior]

To be honest there probably was a quite bit of homophobia in Nazi Germany, it was the 1940's afterall and the country was still massively christian, Hitler had literally only just began his work you can't expect too much in the brief time he had.

The people of the time were still products of their time, you can't expect them to perfectly align to our values here in the JoS, we know things the vast majority of them didn't, and those that did know could only change so much without risking serious pushback, its unfortunate but it should be stated the vast majority of those claiming to have been persecuted as homosexuals were in fact usually deviant pedophiles using homosexuality as a mask or shield, indeed that still happens to this day.

Also what countries treated homosexuals better at the time? My country castrated them with chemicals until they killed themselves, as I said it was a different time.