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I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm posting right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and since then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations...but so far, I'm not getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's and I just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's something wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I wasn't going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is that I'm not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the issue I'm having...it's the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that I want to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I was serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't know how to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.
 
Do not give up! I'd say, just keep doing what you're doing. We all
develop at different stages, some just take longer than others to
spiritually advance. Do not worry about it. Your powers shall manifest
in their own way and at their own speed.

On 8/18/09, toto_emenefus_tribal <toto_emenefus_tribal@... wrote:
I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm posting
right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and since
then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations...but so far, I'm not
getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's and I
just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's something
wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I wasn't
going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons
but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is that I'm
not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the issue
I'm having...it's the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that I want
to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I was
serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't know how
to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.
 
I have to echo Allison's post. Don't give up.

I've been doing this for years and I still have 'dry spells' and they're very, very discouraging. Also, although I do just fine in some areas, others require considerable growth, which can seem very slow in coming. All you can do is keep going. Often it is at the time when you wonder if anything will happen that shortly afterward something does.

Don't try to do everything at once though or you spread yourself too thin. Concentrate on your meditations as job 1 and possibly connecting with your guardian demon. If that contact is made, you will be able to get some personalized advice especially geared to you and your individual situation.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@... wrote:

Do not give up! I'd say, just keep doing what you're doing. We all
develop at different stages, some just take longer than others to
spiritually advance. Do not worry about it. Your powers shall manifest
in their own way and at their own speed.

On 8/18/09, toto_emenefus_tribal <toto_emenefus_tribal@... wrote:
I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm posting
right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and since
then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations...but so far, I'm not
getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's and I
just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's something
wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I wasn't
going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons
but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is that I'm
not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the issue
I'm having...it's the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that I want
to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I was
serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't know how
to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.
 
Okay, I gotta ask...any tips you could give me on finding my guardian?
How did you find yours, if I may ask? I'm leaning toward either Lady
Astaroth or Lord Thoth at the moment. So, should I just forget about
it and concentrate on empowering myself? I have received no overt
signs, but I feel very connected to the Lady Astaroth, and just
recently, to Thoth, so...I don't know. Advice would be most
appreciated!

On 8/19/09, chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:
I have to echo Allison's post. Don't give up.

I've been doing this for years and I still have 'dry spells' and they're
very, very discouraging. Also, although I do just fine in some areas, others
require considerable growth, which can seem very slow in coming. All you can
do is keep going. Often it is at the time when you wonder if anything will
happen that shortly afterward something does.

Don't try to do everything at once though or you spread yourself too thin.
Concentrate on your meditations as job 1 and possibly connecting with your
guardian demon. If that contact is made, you will be able to get some
personalized advice especially geared to you and your individual situation.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@... wrote:

Do not give up! I'd say, just keep doing what you're doing. We all
develop at different stages, some just take longer than others to
spiritually advance. Do not worry about it. Your powers shall manifest
in their own way and at their own speed.

On 8/18/09, toto_emenefus_tribal <toto_emenefus_tribal@... wrote:
I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm
posting
right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and
since
then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations...but so far, I'm
not
getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's and
I
just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's something
wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I wasn't
going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons
but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is that
I'm
not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the
issue
I'm having...it's the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that I
want
to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I was
serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't know
how
to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.
 
I hesitated to post this because, not only is it somewhat private, I don't like to give the unintended impression that I'm setting myself `above' my brothers and sisters in Satan, and therefore inadvertently causing problems, especially to newbies and the newly dedicated, where someone might think either, "I'll never be able to do that!" or, conversely, "That's nothing; look what I did!", and so starts an unprofitable pissing contest ...

ALL credit ultimately belongs to Satan in the final analysis, no matter what.

Anyway, this `bio' is illustrative of the fact that Satan chooses his people, sometimes a long time before they even have an inkling that they have been selected to become of His Own.

This barely scratches the surface, but here's an abbreviated version:

First, I didn't initiate contact with the Gods (at least not consciously); it was the other way around and the story began about 33 years ago.

Sometime after midnight on what, in retrospect, was one of the most pivotal days in my life, I drove to the countryside, deliberately seeking aloneness and the quiet of what passed for `wilderness' which was accessible by car. I had just purchased an ouija board and brought it with me. As it turned out, that was only time I successfully used a planchette; after that I used a pendulum, but I digress. On a deserted road I pulled over, shut off the car, rolled down the window so I could hear the night sounds and began to meditate, for want of a better word. (This was 1976 and the word "meditate" still conjured visions of unwashed hippies!)

Before long I felt a strong presence. I was definitely not alone and had, in fact, felt that presence briefly at work earlier. I have had so-called `supernatural' experiences since I was a small child, so to me none of this was frightening, but I sensed it was important. I put the ouija board on my lap, not knowing what would happen, but in a few moments, something did. At first I thought it was "me" speaking, i.e., my own sub-conscious mind bubbling forth and asked if that were true. "No", the planchette pointed out rather forcefully. "I am Xanthippe. You would know me as a demon." (I believe those were the exact words.) The word `demon' can strike terror into a xtian, but I was already well past that, and he obviously knew it.

Remember, at that time, the demons were still bound at the soul level by their more numerous enemies, but that is not to say they were entirely helpless. (Of course back then we didn't even know anything about this!) My experiences over the next three decades cause me to think of this binding more in terms of "restraint" but because I'm a writer and editor it may be just semantics. Xanthippe spoke to me occasionally, but not often, over the years as I found myself embroiled, not only in a personal morass of many layers, but also dealing with alien greys and other hostiles.

Fast forward to about a year after my formal dedication to Satan in November of 2004 when the demon Xanthippe begin seriously counseling and guiding me. The Gods were now free and the enemy be damned! One night, just under a year after that, I realized he had not come alone. There was another God present as well, this one powerful beyond words. It almost felt like the very walls were vibrating! It was the Anubis. (I had been in communication with Aztec and Assyrian gods at various times during the 1980's, and early 90's and they `blew me away' so to speak, but the power of Anubis made that seem like a gentle breeze compared to a hurricane, but not with the danger or fear accompanying a hurricane.)

That was the turning point. It was time for Anubis to `take over' my training, instruction, and guidance. Xanthippe serves under him. He still says `hello' occasionally but his job, as it relates to me, is basically over.

Anubis is extremely patient with me, firm when necessary, likes to tease a little and has a wonderful, childlike (not childish!) sense of humor, and even when firm, is always kind. I have also been privileged to speak with Satan himself as well.

As for tips on contacting a guardian demon, I can only say that perhaps one may have better success by not picking a name from a list, so to speak, but instead focus on "a" guardian demon coming forward, as more or less happened with me.

Also, if you aren't familiar with the demon's name, don't despair. I had no idea who Xanthippe was; I'd never heard the name before but I knew he spoke truth. That's because there are hundreds of thousands of "lesser" gods serving under higher-ranked gods. Look at the lists of the top-echelon gods on the JoS site and you will see that "X is in charge of (insert number) legions of demons".

I know I harp on this a lot, but it always bears repeating: always, always, always, without fail, do your protection exercises before attempting such contact – do them as part of your routine anyway, whether or not you're trying to contact a demon. That way, it is unlikely an impostor or angel will gain a foothold. If Xanthippe, for instance, was not the "real deal", he wouldn't have had the audacity to appear AFTER I had been dedicated for nearly a year! And even less so in the company of Anubis.

People have a tendency to "pick" from the list, I think, because they are more familiar with the god names that are household words. That is not wrong; all I'm saying is that we need to be open ...

On the other side of that coin, however, is the fact that we are often attracted, for reasons we can't always articulate, to a certain God. In that case, definitely pursue that attraction and if it is incorrect, I'm sure you will be told and perhaps even pointed in the `right' direction.

I hope this helps and encourages ...







--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@... wrote:

Okay, I gotta ask...any tips you could give me on finding my guardian?
How did you find yours, if I may ask? I'm leaning toward either Lady
Astaroth or Lord Thoth at the moment. So, should I just forget about
it and concentrate on empowering myself? I have received no overt
signs, but I feel very connected to the Lady Astaroth, and just
recently, to Thoth, so...I don't know. Advice would be most
appreciated!

On 8/19/09, chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:
I have to echo Allison's post. Don't give up.

I've been doing this for years and I still have 'dry spells' and they're
very, very discouraging. Also, although I do just fine in some areas, others
require considerable growth, which can seem very slow in coming. All you can
do is keep going. Often it is at the time when you wonder if anything will
happen that shortly afterward something does.

Don't try to do everything at once though or you spread yourself too thin.
Concentrate on your meditations as job 1 and possibly connecting with your
guardian demon. If that contact is made, you will be able to get some
personalized advice especially geared to you and your individual situation.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@ wrote:

Do not give up! I'd say, just keep doing what you're doing. We all
develop at different stages, some just take longer than others to
spiritually advance. Do not worry about it. Your powers shall manifest
in their own way and at their own speed.

On 8/18/09, toto_emenefus_tribal <toto_emenefus_tribal@ wrote:
I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm
posting
right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and
since
then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations...but so far, I'm
not
getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's and
I
just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's something
wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I wasn't
going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons
but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is that
I'm
not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the
issue
I'm having...it's the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that I
want
to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I was
serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't know
how
to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.
 
You're not the only one. It seems like i've been doing the same things you have for probably around a year now too. I actually did the dedication ritual about a year and a half ago or so and for a little bit did the meditations on and off for probably 6 months or so and then started doing them regularly, actually probably went backwards because used to be a little bit more sensitive to energy and stuff it seems. It sucks

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "toto_emenefus_tribal" <toto_emenefus_tribal@... wrote:

I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm posting right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and since then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations...but so far, I'm not getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's and I just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's something wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I wasn't going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is that I'm not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the issue I'm having...it's the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that I want to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I was serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't know how to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.
 
I was wondering. Is it possible to be 3rd eye blind?

From: chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:25:06 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: I've tried...

  I have to echo Allison's post. Don't give up.

I've been doing this for years and I still have 'dry spells' and they're very, very discouraging. Also, although I do just fine in some areas, others require considerable growth, which can seem very slow in coming. All you can do is keep going. Often it is at the time when you wonder if anything will happen that shortly afterward something does.

Don't try to do everything at once though or you spread yourself too thin. Concentrate on your meditations as job 1 and possibly connecting with your guardian demon. If that contact is made, you will be able to get some personalized advice especially geared to you and your individual situation.

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, Allison P <apocalypseofjon@ ... wrote:

Do not give up! I'd say, just keep doing what you're doing. We all
develop at different stages, some just take longer than others to
spiritually advance. Do not worry about it. Your powers shall manifest
in their own way and at their own speed.

On 8/18/09, toto_emenefus_ tribal <toto_emenefus_ tribal@.. . wrote:
I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm posting
right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and since
then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations. ..but so far, I'm not
getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's and I
just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's something
wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I wasn't
going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons
but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is that I'm
not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the issue
I'm having...it' s the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that I want
to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I was
serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't know how
to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.
 
Void meditation doesn't raise kundalini...Breathing Exercises do !
That's why you find Void meditation everywhere on the internet because it
doesn't work!
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ng666.html



Hail Satan!





--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "toto_emenefus_tribal" <toto_emenefus_tribal@... wrote:

I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm posting right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and since then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations...but so far, I'm not getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's and I just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's something wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I wasn't going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is that I'm not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the issue I'm having...it's the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that I want to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I was serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't know how to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.
 
Personal Empowerment leads to better sensory perception. You possibly already know, but it is that part of us that is instilled with doubt that hinders our progression at times. Work on you, your GD will work with you, whether you know His/Her name or not. If you are inclined to think it is one or the other, then build on both. This way you will develop a better understanding of these two very Primary Gods, whether that reveals to you your GD or not, it is still beneficial and worth the effort.

Trust your instincts, for they are born of older things than time.

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@... wrote:

Okay, I gotta ask...any tips you could give me on finding my guardian?
How did you find yours, if I may ask? I'm leaning toward either Lady
Astaroth or Lord Thoth at the moment. So, should I just forget about
it and concentrate on empowering myself? I have received no overt
signs, but I feel very connected to the Lady Astaroth, and just
recently, to Thoth, so...I don't know. Advice would be most
appreciated!

On 8/19/09, chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:
I have to echo Allison's post. Don't give up.

I've been doing this for years and I still have 'dry spells' and they're
very, very discouraging. Also, although I do just fine in some areas, others
require considerable growth, which can seem very slow in coming. All you can
do is keep going. Often it is at the time when you wonder if anything will
happen that shortly afterward something does.

Don't try to do everything at once though or you spread yourself too thin.
Concentrate on your meditations as job 1 and possibly connecting with your
guardian demon. If that contact is made, you will be able to get some
personalized advice especially geared to you and your individual situation.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@ wrote:

Do not give up! I'd say, just keep doing what you're doing. We all
develop at different stages, some just take longer than others to
spiritually advance. Do not worry about it. Your powers shall manifest
in their own way and at their own speed.

On 8/18/09, toto_emenefus_tribal <toto_emenefus_tribal@ wrote:
I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm
posting
right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and
since
then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations...but so far, I'm
not
getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's and
I
just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's something
wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I wasn't
going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons
but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is that
I'm
not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the
issue
I'm having...it's the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that I
want
to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I was
serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't know
how
to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.
 
No, not blind. But your third eye may not be open. There are meditations for this and, believe me, they do work, but be prepared to spend some time and never under estimate the importance of persistence. It could take some time.

Everyone is different, and those who have an occult background, so to speak, and/or have also had a similar background in past lives will often find it comes easier and quicker than in those who have not.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Seth Wood <crazeskull@... wrote:

I was wondering. Is it possible to be 3rd eye blind?




________________________________
From: chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:25:06 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: I've tried...


I have to echo Allison's post. Don't give up.

I've been doing this for years and I still have 'dry spells' and they're very, very discouraging. Also, although I do just fine in some areas, others require considerable growth, which can seem very slow in coming. All you can do is keep going. Often it is at the time when you wonder if anything will happen that shortly afterward something does.

Don't try to do everything at once though or you spread yourself too thin. Concentrate on your meditations as job 1 and possibly connecting with your guardian demon. If that contact is made, you will be able to get some personalized advice especially geared to you and your individual situation.

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, Allison P <apocalypseofjon@ ... wrote:

Do not give up! I'd say, just keep doing what you're doing. We all
develop at different stages, some just take longer than others to
spiritually advance. Do not worry about it. Your powers shall manifest
in their own way and at their own speed.

On 8/18/09, toto_emenefus_ tribal <toto_emenefus_ tribal@ . wrote:
I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm posting
right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and since
then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations. ..but so far, I'm not
getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's and I
just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's something
wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I wasn't
going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons
but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is that I'm
not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the issue
I'm having...it' s the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that I want
to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I was
serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't know how
to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.
 
I used the information on the website to find my guardian demon, it worked quite well - i would suggest starting there. Probably best to keep trying until you get a result. Don't give up on it tho! although it is very important to continue consistently empowering yourself it is also important to forge a relationship with your guardian demon. once you have then at least your guardian demon can help you through!!!

hope this helps

Aaron

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@... wrote:

Okay, I gotta ask...any tips you could give me on finding my guardian?
How did you find yours, if I may ask? I'm leaning toward either Lady
Astaroth or Lord Thoth at the moment. So, should I just forget about
it and concentrate on empowering myself? I have received no overt
signs, but I feel very connected to the Lady Astaroth, and just
recently, to Thoth, so...I don't know. Advice would be most
appreciated!

On 8/19/09, chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:
I have to echo Allison's post. Don't give up.

I've been doing this for years and I still have 'dry spells' and they're
very, very discouraging. Also, although I do just fine in some areas, others
require considerable growth, which can seem very slow in coming. All you can
do is keep going. Often it is at the time when you wonder if anything will
happen that shortly afterward something does.

Don't try to do everything at once though or you spread yourself too thin.
Concentrate on your meditations as job 1 and possibly connecting with your
guardian demon. If that contact is made, you will be able to get some
personalized advice especially geared to you and your individual situation.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@ wrote:

Do not give up! I'd say, just keep doing what you're doing. We all
develop at different stages, some just take longer than others to
spiritually advance. Do not worry about it. Your powers shall manifest
in their own way and at their own speed.

On 8/18/09, toto_emenefus_tribal <toto_emenefus_tribal@ wrote:
I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm
posting
right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and
since
then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations...but so far, I'm
not
getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's and
I
just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's something
wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I wasn't
going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons
but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is that
I'm
not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the
issue
I'm having...it's the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that I
want
to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I was
serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't know
how
to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.
 
Allison and Chalchiuhnenetzin are right, don't give up! You have to appreciate the scope of the task you are undertaking. The sole purpose of christianity for the past two thousand years has been to keep humanity spiritually depleted, dead, and ignorant. Through the removal of occult knowledge, and the replacement of true spiritual workings with their fake, useless rites and rituals, they caused the end of spiritual advancement and MAINTENANCE. The soul is just the same as the brain, or any other muscle. If it is supported, and maintained, it will stay healthy and working. If it is ignored, and never used...it withers and dies. You have to undo all of that.

With this kind of opposition, you can't expect any progress to come easily, or quickly. Work slowly, get a *very* good handle on what you are doing, and then move on to the next thing. When trying to contact Satan, or Demons, remember that christianity has made it their job to ensure it is VERY HARD INDEED for you to do so! LET THIS STEEL YOUR RESOLVE! Do not falter, do not quit, just clench your teeth, curse the filthy nazarene on his throne built upon the tears of humankind, and then try again.

I, oddly enough just like Chalchiuhnenetzin, dedicated in November of 2004. I do thanksgiving and affirmation rituals every Monday, I meditate every day(at least try to), and have been a member here for that long. I feel blessed by Satan, I see his influence, support, and guidance every day of my life. But direct, telepathic or otherwise contact with him, or any Demon, is and always has been very hard and infrequent for me. I don't see this as any "curse" or that there is anything "wrong", I just grit my teeth and continue working. Just because you are a Satanist, doesn't mean any of this will be easy. And always remember that being aware and paying attention to what is happening is key - just because what you are trying to make happen isn't working, doesn't mean nothing is happening at all.










--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "toto_emenefus_tribal" <toto_emenefus_tribal@... wrote:

I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm posting right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and since then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations...but so far, I'm not getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's and I just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's something wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I wasn't going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is that I'm not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the issue I'm having...it's the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that I want to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I was serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't know how to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.
 
Alright...Well I'd just like to thank everyone for their words of encouragement, they mean a lot to me, but I do have a few questions regarding the third eye as well...after you've opened it, what sort of meditations should you perform to empower it?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:

No, not blind. But your third eye may not be open. There are meditations for this and, believe me, they do work, but be prepared to spend some time and never under estimate the importance of persistence. It could take some time.

Everyone is different, and those who have an occult background, so to speak, and/or have also had a similar background in past lives will often find it comes easier and quicker than in those who have not.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Seth Wood <crazeskull@ wrote:

I was wondering. Is it possible to be 3rd eye blind?




________________________________
From: chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:25:06 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: I've tried...


I have to echo Allison's post. Don't give up.

I've been doing this for years and I still have 'dry spells' and they're very, very discouraging. Also, although I do just fine in some areas, others require considerable growth, which can seem very slow in coming. All you can do is keep going. Often it is at the time when you wonder if anything will happen that shortly afterward something does.

Don't try to do everything at once though or you spread yourself too thin. Concentrate on your meditations as job 1 and possibly connecting with your guardian demon. If that contact is made, you will be able to get some personalized advice especially geared to you and your individual situation.

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, Allison P <apocalypseofjon@ ... wrote:

Do not give up! I'd say, just keep doing what you're doing. We all
develop at different stages, some just take longer than others to
spiritually advance. Do not worry about it. Your powers shall manifest
in their own way and at their own speed.

On 8/18/09, toto_emenefus_ tribal <toto_emenefus_ tribal@ . wrote:
I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm posting
right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and since
then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations. ..but so far, I'm not
getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's and I
just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's something
wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I wasn't
going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons
but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is that I'm
not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the issue
I'm having...it' s the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that I want
to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I was
serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't know how
to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.
 
It does! I am attracted strongly to Inanna/Astaroth, and to Lord
Thoth...that is what I was trying to say before. Lol. Your advice on
protection is duly noted! Thank you very much.

On 8/19/09, chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:
I hesitated to post this because, not only is it somewhat private, I don't
like to give the unintended impression that I'm setting myself `above' my
brothers and sisters in Satan, and therefore inadvertently causing problems,
especially to newbies and the newly dedicated, where someone might think
either, "I'll never be able to do that!" or, conversely, "That's nothing;
look what I did!", and so starts an unprofitable pissing contest ...

ALL credit ultimately belongs to Satan in the final analysis, no matter
what.

Anyway, this `bio' is illustrative of the fact that Satan chooses his
people, sometimes a long time before they even have an inkling that they
have been selected to become of His Own.

This barely scratches the surface, but here's an abbreviated version:

First, I didn't initiate contact with the Gods (at least not consciously);
it was the other way around and the story began about 33 years ago.

Sometime after midnight on what, in retrospect, was one of the most pivotal
days in my life, I drove to the countryside, deliberately seeking aloneness
and the quiet of what passed for `wilderness' which was accessible by car. I
had just purchased an ouija board and brought it with me. As it turned out,
that was only time I successfully used a planchette; after that I used a
pendulum, but I digress. On a deserted road I pulled over, shut off the car,
rolled down the window so I could hear the night sounds and began to
meditate, for want of a better word. (This was 1976 and the word "meditate"
still conjured visions of unwashed hippies!)

Before long I felt a strong presence. I was definitely not alone and had, in
fact, felt that presence briefly at work earlier. I have had so-called
`supernatural' experiences since I was a small child, so to me none of this
was frightening, but I sensed it was important. I put the ouija board on my
lap, not knowing what would happen, but in a few moments, something did. At
first I thought it was "me" speaking, i.e., my own sub-conscious mind
bubbling forth and asked if that were true. "No", the planchette pointed out
rather forcefully. "I am Xanthippe. You would know me as a demon." (I
believe those were the exact words.) The word `demon' can strike terror into
a xtian, but I was already well past that, and he obviously knew it.

Remember, at that time, the demons were still bound at the soul level by
their more numerous enemies, but that is not to say they were entirely
helpless. (Of course back then we didn't even know anything about this!) My
experiences over the next three decades cause me to think of this binding
more in terms of "restraint" but because I'm a writer and editor it may be
just semantics. Xanthippe spoke to me occasionally, but not often, over the
years as I found myself embroiled, not only in a personal morass of many
layers, but also dealing with alien greys and other hostiles.

Fast forward to about a year after my formal dedication to Satan in November
of 2004 when the demon Xanthippe begin seriously counseling and guiding me.
The Gods were now free and the enemy be damned! One night, just under a year
after that, I realized he had not come alone. There was another God present
as well, this one powerful beyond words. It almost felt like the very walls
were vibrating! It was the Anubis. (I had been in communication with Aztec
and Assyrian gods at various times during the 1980's, and early 90's and
they `blew me away' so to speak, but the power of Anubis made that seem like
a gentle breeze compared to a hurricane, but not with the danger or fear
accompanying a hurricane.)

That was the turning point. It was time for Anubis to `take over' my
training, instruction, and guidance. Xanthippe serves under him. He still
says `hello' occasionally but his job, as it relates to me, is basically
over.

Anubis is extremely patient with me, firm when necessary, likes to tease a
little and has a wonderful, childlike (not childish!) sense of humor, and
even when firm, is always kind. I have also been privileged to speak with
Satan himself as well.

As for tips on contacting a guardian demon, I can only say that perhaps one
may have better success by not picking a name from a list, so to speak, but
instead focus on "a" guardian demon coming forward, as more or less happened
with me.

Also, if you aren't familiar with the demon's name, don't despair. I had no
idea who Xanthippe was; I'd never heard the name before but I knew he spoke
truth. That's because there are hundreds of thousands of "lesser" gods
serving under higher-ranked gods. Look at the lists of the top-echelon gods
on the JoS site and you will see that "X is in charge of (insert number)
legions of demons".

I know I harp on this a lot, but it always bears repeating: always, always,
always, without fail, do your protection exercises before attempting such
contact – do them as part of your routine anyway, whether or not you're
trying to contact a demon. That way, it is unlikely an impostor or angel
will gain a foothold. If Xanthippe, for instance, was not the "real deal",
he wouldn't have had the audacity to appear AFTER I had been dedicated for
nearly a year! And even less so in the company of Anubis.

People have a tendency to "pick" from the list, I think, because they are
more familiar with the god names that are household words. That is not
wrong; all I'm saying is that we need to be open ...

On the other side of that coin, however, is the fact that we are often
attracted, for reasons we can't always articulate, to a certain God. In that
case, definitely pursue that attraction and if it is incorrect, I'm sure you
will be told and perhaps even pointed in the `right' direction.

I hope this helps and encourages ...







--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@... wrote:

Okay, I gotta ask...any tips you could give me on finding my guardian?
How did you find yours, if I may ask? I'm leaning toward either Lady
Astaroth or Lord Thoth at the moment. So, should I just forget about
it and concentrate on empowering myself? I have received no overt
signs, but I feel very connected to the Lady Astaroth, and just
recently, to Thoth, so...I don't know. Advice would be most
appreciated!

On 8/19/09, chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:
I have to echo Allison's post. Don't give up.

I've been doing this for years and I still have 'dry spells' and they're
very, very discouraging. Also, although I do just fine in some areas,
others
require considerable growth, which can seem very slow in coming. All you
can
do is keep going. Often it is at the time when you wonder if anything
will
happen that shortly afterward something does.

Don't try to do everything at once though or you spread yourself too
thin.
Concentrate on your meditations as job 1 and possibly connecting with
your
guardian demon. If that contact is made, you will be able to get some
personalized advice especially geared to you and your individual
situation.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@
wrote:

Do not give up! I'd say, just keep doing what you're doing. We all
develop at different stages, some just take longer than others to
spiritually advance. Do not worry about it. Your powers shall manifest
in their own way and at their own speed.

On 8/18/09, toto_emenefus_tribal <toto_emenefus_tribal@ wrote:
I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm
posting
right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and
since
then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations...but so far,
I'm
not
getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's
and
I
just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's
something
wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I
wasn't
going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons
but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is
that
I'm
not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the
issue
I'm having...it's the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that
I
want
to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I
was
serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't
know
how
to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.
 
You need to take a brake. Let it come to you by relaxing and pulling lightly on your energy. If you strain your self to much I think the stress makes you unfocused and tends to burn you out.
Do yoga. Breathing, like some others have said would help some.   Just don't make your self so desperate, take your time as your body needs. This is pretty much what I am trying to tell you. (Since I find that shoving every thing at once on your self seems to make things a lot harder and almost inefficient when I try to rush to much with some things.)
From: toto_emenefus_tribal <toto_emenefus_tribal@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:15:59 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] I've tried...

  I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm posting right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and since then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations. ..but so far, I'm not getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's and I just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's something wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I wasn't going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is that I'm not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the issue I'm having...it' s the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that I want to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I was serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't know how to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.


 
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "xancthros777" <xancthros777@... wrote:
I used the information on the website to find my guardian demon, it worked quite well - i would suggest starting there. Probably best to keep trying until you get a result. Don't give up on it tho! although it is very important to continue consistently empowering yourself it is also important to forge a relationship with your guardian demon. once you have then at least your guardian demon can help you through!!!

hope this helps

Aaron

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@ wrote:

Okay, I gotta ask...any tips you could give me on finding my guardian?
How did you find yours, if I may ask? I'm leaning toward either Lady
Astaroth or Lord Thoth at the moment. So, should I just forget about
it and concentrate on empowering myself? I have received no overt
signs, but I feel very connected to the Lady Astaroth, and just
recently, to Thoth, so...I don't know. Advice would be most
appreciated!

On 8/19/09, chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@ wrote:
I have to echo Allison's post. Don't give up.

I've been doing this for years and I still have 'dry spells' and they're
very, very discouraging. Also, although I do just fine in some areas, others
require considerable growth, which can seem very slow in coming. All you can
do is keep going. Often it is at the time when you wonder if anything will
happen that shortly afterward something does.

Don't try to do everything at once though or you spread yourself too thin.
Concentrate on your meditations as job 1 and possibly connecting with your
guardian demon. If that contact is made, you will be able to get some
personalized advice especially geared to you and your individual situation.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@ wrote:

Do not give up! I'd say, just keep doing what you're doing. We all
develop at different stages, some just take longer than others to
spiritually advance. Do not worry about it. Your powers shall manifest
in their own way and at their own speed.

On 8/18/09, toto_emenefus_tribal <toto_emenefus_tribal@ wrote:
I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm
posting
right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and
since
then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations...but so far, I'm
not
getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's and
I
just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's something
wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I wasn't
going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons
but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is that
I'm
not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the
issue
I'm having...it's the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that I
want
to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I was
serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't know
how
to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.
Yes I agree I have a strong relationship with my guardian belial he helps me in a lot of stuff......I HAIL HIM FOR THAT!!!!!

HAIL SATAN! HAIL ALL THE GODS OF OLD!!
 
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "toto_emenefus_tribal" <toto_emenefus_tribal@... wrote:
I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm posting right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and since then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations...but so far, I'm not getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's and I just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's something wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I wasn't going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is that I'm not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the issue I'm having...it's the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that I want to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I was serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't know how to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.
Don't track your progress while you are doing your meditations. That not only divides your power into doing and seeing if you are doing. It also shows you have a believe it when I see it mentality that spells defeat. If we look for validation that means we aren't sure we will make progress. If we are not sure we are making progress the outcome is still a toss up. I have done the same thing so I understand. Believe more in yourself and keep up the good work. HS!
 
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "dooms2212" <dooms2212@... wrote:
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "toto_emenefus_tribal" <toto_emenefus_tribal@ wrote:

I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm posting right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and since then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations...but so far, I'm not getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's and I just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's something wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I wasn't going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is that I'm not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the issue I'm having...it's the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that I want to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I was serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't know how to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.



Don't track your progress while you are doing your meditations. That not only divides your power into doing and seeing if you are doing. It also shows you have a believe it when I see it mentality that spells defeat. If we look for validation that means we aren't sure we will make progress. If we are not sure we are making progress the outcome is still a toss up. I have done the same thing so I understand. Believe more in yourself and keep up the good work. HS!
The main thing is not to expect too much from yourself. If you're sitting there trying to meditate, or summon, or whatever you happen to be doing, and the whole time you're saying to yourself, "it's not working, why isn't it working, I've been trying for like half an hour..." etc., etc., you end up ruining your concentration and ultimately any power the working may have had had is lost. I don't wanna just say you need to "believe in yourself", but you need to be able to let go from the desire to achieve a result, and sit back like a casual observer in your own mind, letting what happens, happen. If you can't detach yourself like that it makes it EXTREMELY hard to focus (trust me, I know). I've only been a Satanist for a few months, but I was into meditation and chi manipulation for at least 4 years before that. Even so, I've only just recently been able to affect even tiny things outside of my body. For most people it takes time, a lot of it, before you can build up enough sensitivity to even perceive energies, let alone begin to manipulate them. Do not think that just because you can't shoot lightning out of your hands like the emperor from star wars, YET, that it means you're some kind of failure. Keep trying everything you can. There are many others who know what you're going through, so don't give up! Good luck and HAIL SATAN!!
 
that is true i have been doing all sorts of meditations and i felt like nothing was happening but then i felt my entire self leave my body and i was walking about astrally and saw a car that woulde disrupt my day when i snapped out of my trance the very same car drove up to me and it was my filthy xian mother and sure enough i knew i was successful and trances and meditations but dont get discouraged keep at it and you will become more sensitive and on the road to using witchpower



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "vorpulor" <vorpulor@... wrote:

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "dooms2212" <dooms2212@ wrote:

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "toto_emenefus_tribal" <toto_emenefus_tribal@ wrote:

I don't really know how to begin, but I will say that the reason I'm posting right now is because I really need help...

I dedicated to Spiritual Satanism a little bit over a year ago, and since then I've tried many things, many kinds of meditations...but so far, I'm not getting any results.

I've tried so many things, from void meditation to opening chakra's and I just can't seem to find any results...I don't know if there's something wrong with me, but yesterday I had this sudden realisation that I wasn't going anywhere, and I'm beginning to lose hope...

I don't know what I should be doing, I've even tried summoning demons but...I've never seen one, the only explanation I can think of is that I'm not psychically open enough to see or hear them, but that's just the issue I'm having...it's the fact that I'm not psychically open enough that I want to communicate with them, so I can learn how to be...

Nothing seems to be working for me, I don't know what else to say.

I am in desperate need of help, I dedicated to father Enki because I was serious about spiritually advancing and becoming a god, but I don't know how to go about it anymore.

So I'm asking someone, please help me.



Don't track your progress while you are doing your meditations. That not only divides your power into doing and seeing if you are doing. It also shows you have a believe it when I see it mentality that spells defeat. If we look for validation that means we aren't sure we will make progress. If we are not sure we are making progress the outcome is still a toss up. I have done the same thing so I understand. Believe more in yourself and keep up the good work. HS!


The main thing is not to expect too much from yourself. If you're sitting there trying to meditate, or summon, or whatever you happen to be doing, and the whole time you're saying to yourself, "it's not working, why isn't it working, I've been trying for like half an hour..." etc., etc., you end up ruining your concentration and ultimately any power the working may have had had is lost. I don't wanna just say you need to "believe in yourself", but you need to be able to let go from the desire to achieve a result, and sit back like a casual observer in your own mind, letting what happens, happen. If you can't detach yourself like that it makes it EXTREMELY hard to focus (trust me, I know). I've only been a Satanist for a few months, but I was into meditation and chi manipulation for at least 4 years before that. Even so, I've only just recently been able to affect even tiny things outside of my body. For most people it takes time, a lot of it, before you can build up enough sensitivity to even perceive energies, let alone begin to manipulate them. Do not think that just because you can't shoot lightning out of your hands like the emperor from star wars, YET, that it means you're some kind of failure. Keep trying everything you can. There are many others who know what you're going through, so don't give up! Good luck and HAIL SATAN!!
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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