is varg vikernes true

[sonnenkraft]

About his theories such as :-
1-civilization is bad and its slavery.
2-women was forced to have sex with germans in the eastern fronts.
3-people should live in forest and have farms.
4-Vikernes is innocent when he convicted of the murder of his Mayhem bandmate Øystein Aarseth Known Euronymous


*topic only for anyone who know this character, Just curios .

 

[Aquarius]

1) bullshit, civilization is essential to our advancement, if technology exists that's because of civilization, if we don't have a life expectancy of 30 years old that's because of civilization. You still can have a house and a farm in civilization, but just exiting everything and denying yourself technology and western medicine is suicidal at this point in life. Funny is how he preaches all that stuff then goes on to sell his books on amazon and have youtube channels and all that stuff.

2) Bullshit, it's the other way round, it's the communist pigs that raped whole villages and killed German women and little kids.

3) see point 1

4) As far as I know euronimous tried to kill him, but he could or could not be lying.

 

[Seby]

Varg thinks the Gods are just allegories. He's dumb but still fights against the enemy.

 

[sonnenkraft]

1) bullshit, civilization is essential to our advancement, if technology exists that's because of civilization, if we don't have a life expectancy of 30 years old that's because of civilization. You still can have a house and a farm in civilization, but just exiting everything and denying yourself technology and western medicine is suicidal at this point in life. Funny is how he preaches all that stuff then goes on to sell his books on amazon and have youtube channels and all that stuff.

2) Bullshit, it's the other way round, it's the communist pigs that raped whole villages and killed German women and little kids.

3) see point 1

4) As far as I know euronimous tried to kill him, but he could or could not be lying.

confusing character sometimes he's right sometimes not ,anyway thx

 

[Totora]

About his theories such as :-
1-civilization is bad and its slavery.
2-women was forced to have sex with germans in the eastern fronts.
3-people should live in forest and have farms.
4-Vikernes is innocent when he convicted of the murder of his Mayhem bandmate Øystein Aarseth Known Euronymous


*topic only for anyone who know this character, Just curios .

About the second point, he has ever claimed something like this, it's bs.

Euronymous was a commie that planned to kidnap him, take him to the forest and torture him to death. He has done a right think, it's just this the masonic govermant that wanted to put him in jail.

 

[retrograde]

1) bullshit, civilization is essential to our advancement, if technology exists that's because of civilization, if we don't have a life expectancy of 30 years old that's because of civilization. You still can have a house and a farm in civilization, but just exiting everything and denying yourself technology and western medicine is suicidal at this point in life. Funny is how he preaches all that stuff then goes on to sell his books on amazon and have youtube channels and all that stuff.

1) bullshit, civilization is essential to our advancement, if technology exists that's because of civilization, if we don't have a life expectancy of 30 years old that's because of civilization. You still can have a house and a farm in civilization, but just exiting everything and denying yourself technology and western medicine is suicidal at this point in life. Funny is how he preaches all that stuff then goes on to sell his books on amazon and have youtube channels and all that stuff.

2) Bullshit, it's the other way round, it's the communist pigs that raped whole villages and killed German women and little kids.

3) see point 1

4) As far as I know euronimous tried to kill him, but he could or could not be lying.

I agree that civilization is essential to human advancement. Most of us need other people. When people get together they can create better ideas and technology. "Two heads are better than one," however civilization is broader than just "people interacting".. Outside of it's very basic definition, what civilization actually implicates for human beings in this time period, is much more than medicine and technology. We reap good and bad things from it. We are in a control grid that is growing and clamping down on us. This is not the only thing taking place - because people wouldn't stand for this. This is either intentionally mixed in with, or is a natural byproduct of the progression we've made. There are other ways to do things - it's important to mention this but not to start hypothesizing about what could be different.. I'd like to stay focused on what I'm talking about and not digress. We have electricity, streets, sidewalks, sewers, running water, grocery stores, medicine, a ton of great stuff - no doubt, the list could go on for a very long time. You make sacrifices by belonging to civilization. Those sacrifices in our case are in certain senses restraints on power and freedom. Try to understand what I'm saying before you object to this. The truth is somewhere in the middle. We find it when we acknowledge the whole scope of what's taking place, not just the aspects that we prefer to be aware of or promote.

Did you know certain shapes are illegal? How about certain sequences of sounds you can make with your mouth? Did you know hurting people's feelings is illegal in some cases, or scaring someone?

The meaningful difference most of us can make in the world is going to be limited to affecting the emotions and then the thoughts of some of the people around us. The amount of change you can make is subjective. I'd say for most people it's a small amount. There is something so big and powerful in place that you cannot make it budge.


So to answer the questions:

1. Is civilization slavery? In a way it is. In a way it isn't. It's not black and white, I'm more inclined to say that it is. It's a deep discussion and it's more appropriate for an individual to come to their own conclusion they're happy with because this is something (like a lot of things) that a lot of people are going to argue about. Some people are stuck in a behavior pattern of going around telling people they're wrong. They think they're smart because they can see a point of vulnerability in what someone is expressing that they can use to form an objection. These "vulnerable points" are usually places where inferences could be made that would allow someone to truly understand what the other person is meaning. These inferences can only be made by someone that genuinely wants to hear and understand what someone else is saying. A lot of people are more interested in layering over other people's ideas and feelings with their own because, most of us feel more strongly about what we think as opposed to what someone else thinks.

2.In a time of war I'm sure it happened. I'm not a historian so I don't have statistics, maybe it was a fringe thing that happened once. Or twice. Or a dozen times. Maybe it was more common, I don't know because I wasn't there. I have heard of rape occurring during many wars and it almost seems like something that's bound to happen.

3. I like nature.. I've heard but not extensively verified, that there is more than enough room for all of us on this planet to each have our own land and house. This wouldn't be conducive to the "human cattle" thing though.

4.23 stab wounds. Innocence is a tricky subject that's defined by the state and not us. I don't think he lied about receiving death threats. I think Euronymous probably did mention making a snuff movie out of killing Varg. He probably did have a degree of fear for his at some point during the altercation.


One off topic note. Euronymous is the name of a god, there is not much written about him. Possibly is the goddess Eurynome. I have loosely heard references to Euronymous (the god) in media, or allusions in art. Usually the context in which this god is brought up is.. death. Usually gruesome deaths like ritual sacrifice. I'm interested in whether or not this god is equated with any god in the JoS pantheon. Perhaps Astaroth? Euronymous and Astaroth are mentioned separately in the dictionare infernal though. And obviously we all know that most of the grimoire descriptions are heinous slander of the gods and far from the truth. I don't know if it's a thought form but I believe I've actually had some kind of brief connection to this "Euronymous" concept, and he has a pale white or corpsepainted face.

 

[sonnenkraft]

Varg thinks the Gods are just allegories. He's dumb but still fights against the enemy.

that is the great thing he is still Fighting the enemy ,
he said he don't believe in Satanism but in Odinism which actually the same Satan = Odin

 

[sonnenkraft]

According to varg ,Euronymous is not white He is Hybrid a mongrel , and he was funded by the enemy to spread mental disorder through musik ,,Varg stated that Euronymous planned to torture him and record a video tape and kill him (Jewish Rituals).
After varg killed euronymous the whole media blamed varg as murder nazi &satanic and court was working against varg he had no hope the enemy hated him for everything .

 

[sonnenkraft]

About the second point, he has ever claimed something like this, it's bs.

check his tweets in twitter he did and he shared a link as proof

 

[Saturn6]

Varg Vikernes very very stupid man.

 

[13th_Wolf]

The communists were ordered to rape in eastern Europe , whereas German troops were court martialed as per when those things occurred, nevermind the fact that the SS military culture itself, of strict organisation and high discipline offset this stuff.

Varg is wrong on his points about civilisation + some of his pagan understanding, the HPs have talked about this on other posts about varg you can find them in the search bar if you type his name, some should come up. It's really quite a simple thing varg is confused on with civilisation and many likewise, I guess it's called the "if everyone had less technology and materials, the world would be better just because muh ancestors" -mentality, also known as Ludditism.

Obviously there is more to it than that, as Varg hasn't factored in the element of spiritual consciousness in people and like I did before I arrived here, dislikes most people for their idiocy and dependence (while being somewhat dependent on things like the internet himself, hypocritically) other than that most of his factual stuff he has made if you can still find it was spot on, just be wary of his luddite, primitivist outlook as this is a symptom of his generational disgruntlement and only contains quasi-insights here and there.

 

[Pirate11]

He released a new album for his musical project Burzum just today

 

[melmelxmoon]

1) I'd say it's essential. Pretty subjective though.
2) Fuck no. It's the russians who mass raped german woman and teens. And I mean mass raped. I know they did kill babies or small kids who were with women they wanted to rape. Germans didn't really rape foreign women or kill children at all. At least that I know.
3) I don't know maybe.
4) Varg def killed euronymous. He planned it. He ment it. There's complete evidence he did it. I don't know if it's justified in a way or not, since eurynomous was a complete jerk (so bad necrobutcher also planned to kill him) and apparently he had planned to kill varg (but that's debatable. varg claimed that some guy told him that eurynomous was planning to kill him. But it's pretty shacky. Most likely made up as an excuse to kill him unless it's true).

He's a cool dude, def is right about a number of things. I don't think he's pagan though.

 

[Stormblood]

Ultimately, he's just a boor. The fact he paints himself as a Odinist, doesn't mean he really is one. Many people paint themselves as Pagans but they are not really. It's like living in a haunted house: if you paint the walls a different colour and change the furniture, are the haunters going to disappears? Not really. You'll live in a haunted house with a different cover-up. In the same way, if you just change the name of the Gods but still approach spirituality in the same way a xtard does... you're still a xtard. The core stays the same, it's the outward appearance that changes, which is mostly meaningless.


People need to learn how to think outside the (jewish) box. If a jewish-poisoned civilisation doesn't work, it doesn't mean one must just to the other extreme: the destruction of civilisation. A human being can't and will never be able to do everything on their own. There are family, clans, castes, tribes, nations, races for a reason. I could never do what the butcher does, what healers do, what mechanics/smiths do, and so on. I can do what my talents have been honed to do for several lifetimes and the same is true for everyone else. Humans are specialists, not generalists. The goal is to create a healthy society for everyone to live in, not to submit to the jewish-infested one and neither to destroy it and die in the jungle. This is what we're doing here.

 

[sonnenkraft]

Ultimately, he's just a boor. The fact he paints himself as a Odinist, doesn't mean he really is one. Many people paint themselves as Pagans but they are not really. It's like living in a haunted house: if you paint the walls a different colour and change the furniture, are the haunters going to disappears? Not really. You'll live in a haunted house with a different cover-up. In the same way, if you just change the name of the Gods but still approach spirituality in the same way a xtard does... you're still a xtard. The core stays the same, it's the outward appearance that changes, which is mostly meaningless.


People need to learn how to think outside the (jewish) box. If a jewish-poisoned civilisation doesn't work, it doesn't mean one must just to the other extreme: the destruction of civilisation. A human being can't and will never be able to do everything on their own. There are family, clans, castes, tribes, nations, races for a reason. I could never do what the butcher does, what healers do, what mechanics/smiths do, and so on. I can do what my talents have been honed to do for several lifetimes and the same is true for everyone else. Humans are specialists, not generalists. The goal is to create a healthy society for everyone to live in, not to submit to the jewish-infested one and neither to destroy it and die in the jungle. This is what we're doing here.

correctly exactly %100, he's just a boor as u said,, he have been jailed for 21 years i feel sorry for him,
if we act like varg we will be also jailed for 20 years for defending himself and he burned churches.

as satanist we must act secretly no need to be hero front of the the public it will cost us our life

 

[Stormblood]

People need to learn how to think outside the (jewish) box. If a jewish-poisoned civilisation doesn't work, it doesn't mean one must just to the other extreme: the destruction of civilisation.

*jump