StyleCoin said:What are your opinions?
I've come to a conclusion that the stories that are being announced from media in regards to geopolical situations are for the most part simply opium for the masses having very little to do with reality.Larissa666 said:It appears that Russia is not a warmonger in this situation, but rather the West. Few days ago, I was too quick to judge Russia, but then I looked at situation a bit more closely.
If you look at the current geopolitical map of Eastern Europe, Russia is really pushed into a corner. NATO has surrounded it from all sides, with only place where this is not the case is Ukraine.
When you look at this, isn’t the position of Russia kinda logical? “We do not want anymore NATO on our border, stop pushing us in the corner and demanding us to agree to everything you do”. Russia is even open to talks and negotiations, all that Russia is asking for is signed guarantee that NATO will not expand anymore, and so far the answer has been no. NATO doesn’t want to negotiate at all.
And one more thing to be noted, if you were reading the news for the past few days, you could see that Russia does not want war! There is no threats and aggressive rhetoric coming from the Russia. All the war rhetoric is coming from the West. No matter how much Russia is saying “we are not planning to attack anyone”, the West (USA) keeps yelling, “yes, you do, stop denying it.”
I think that only cause for war here would be some sort of provocation or false flag to make Russia forced to respond.
Do not interpret this as “pro Putin” or think that I am totally blind to the reality of the current power structure that is ruling Russia. I know who is Putin and people who are surrounding him. But that is not the point here.
Henu the Great said:I've come to a conclusion that the stories that are being announced from media in regards to geopolical situations are for the most part simply opium for the masses having very little to do with reality.Larissa666 said:It appears that Russia is not a warmonger in this situation, but rather the West. Few days ago, I was too quick to judge Russia, but then I looked at situation a bit more closely.
If you look at the current geopolitical map of Eastern Europe, Russia is really pushed into a corner. NATO has surrounded it from all sides, with only place where this is not the case is Ukraine.
When you look at this, isn’t the position of Russia kinda logical? “We do not want anymore NATO on our border, stop pushing us in the corner and demanding us to agree to everything you do”. Russia is even open to talks and negotiations, all that Russia is asking for is signed guarantee that NATO will not expand anymore, and so far the answer has been no. NATO doesn’t want to negotiate at all.
And one more thing to be noted, if you were reading the news for the past few days, you could see that Russia does not want war! There is no threats and aggressive rhetoric coming from the Russia. All the war rhetoric is coming from the West. No matter how much Russia is saying “we are not planning to attack anyone”, the West (USA) keeps yelling, “yes, you do, stop denying it.”
I think that only cause for war here would be some sort of provocation or false flag to make Russia forced to respond.
Do not interpret this as “pro Putin” or think that I am totally blind to the reality of the current power structure that is ruling Russia. I know who is Putin and people who are surrounding him. But that is not the point here.
The narrative that you describe is getting old at this point. Can you spell boring?
At the end of the day these superpower nations co-operate in space frontier so who is really the enemy of whom.
I actually find politics interesting. What I meant is that this us vs. Them narrative is overused at this point.Larissa666 said:Henu the Great said:I've come to a conclusion that the stories that are being announced from media in regards to geopolical situations are for the most part simply opium for the masses having very little to do with reality.Larissa666 said:It appears that Russia is not a warmonger in this situation, but rather the West. Few days ago, I was too quick to judge Russia, but then I looked at situation a bit more closely.
If you look at the current geopolitical map of Eastern Europe, Russia is really pushed into a corner. NATO has surrounded it from all sides, with only place where this is not the case is Ukraine.
When you look at this, isn’t the position of Russia kinda logical? “We do not want anymore NATO on our border, stop pushing us in the corner and demanding us to agree to everything you do”. Russia is even open to talks and negotiations, all that Russia is asking for is signed guarantee that NATO will not expand anymore, and so far the answer has been no. NATO doesn’t want to negotiate at all.
And one more thing to be noted, if you were reading the news for the past few days, you could see that Russia does not want war! There is no threats and aggressive rhetoric coming from the Russia. All the war rhetoric is coming from the West. No matter how much Russia is saying “we are not planning to attack anyone”, the West (USA) keeps yelling, “yes, you do, stop denying it.”
I think that only cause for war here would be some sort of provocation or false flag to make Russia forced to respond.
Do not interpret this as “pro Putin” or think that I am totally blind to the reality of the current power structure that is ruling Russia. I know who is Putin and people who are surrounding him. But that is not the point here.
The narrative that you describe is getting old at this point. Can you spell boring?
At the end of the day these superpower nations co-operate in space frontier so who is really the enemy of whom.
I know. Politics are always boring, and I think they are set up this way so that most people lose interest and don't engage in it.
gnome said:There's also a probability that this whole dispute is a staged, but that does not mean there will not be an invasion.
SS66610888 said:I don't think either Russia or NATO are victims in this situation.
Russia is pursuing a strategy that goes back a long way. Years ago they exploited the situation in Donbass to create a conflict and take control, more or less obviously, of the richest region of Ukraine.
High officials in Donbass are former Russian agents, it was not a simple secession at the national level, I think this is obvious to all.
One of the reasons they did this is because the nato treaty does not allow a country that has internal conflicts or internal hostilities to join nato (at least the way it is written in theory).
The situation in donbass has postponed Ukraine's eventual entry into nato.
Today they are doing the same thing.
With the current tension, Ukraine certainly cannot be accepted into nato.
There is no need even to fight for now.
The threat is enough for now.
And Russia is threatening
Exercises in the Mediterranean, exercises with fighters equipped with nuclear warheads army in large quantities at the border etc.
Also nato for its part wants Ukraine to encircle Russia, certainly not to protect Ukrainians.
As I said before, the threat of Russia is enough to keep Ukraine out of NATO, but let's look at the last 2 years, at the end of the day even the covid is just a cold, and paracetamol would be enough, yet they exploited the situation by exaggerating it, and here we are....
So everything will depend, as always, on how these damn people decide to make things go.
It will depend on them and of course our Rtr's and Gods.
Wow, this post didn't age well. Reads like an op-ed on RT.Larissa666 said:It appears that Russia is not a warmonger in this situation, but rather the West. Few days ago, I was too quick to judge Russia, but then I looked at situation a bit more closely.
If you look at the current geopolitical map of Eastern Europe, Russia is really pushed into a corner. NATO has surrounded it from all sides, with only place where this is not the case is Ukraine.
When you look at this, isn’t the position of Russia kinda logical? “We do not want anymore NATO on our border, stop pushing us in the corner and demanding us to agree to everything you do”. Russia is even open to talks and negotiations, all that Russia is asking for is signed guarantee that NATO will not expand anymore, and so far the answer has been no. NATO doesn’t want to negotiate at all.
And one more thing to be noted, if you were reading the news for the past few days, you could see that Russia does not want war! There is no threats and aggressive rhetoric coming from the Russia. All the war rhetoric is coming from the West. No matter how much Russia is saying “we are not planning to attack anyone”, the West (USA) keeps yelling, “yes, you do, stop denying it.”
I think that only cause for war here would be some sort of provocation or false flag to make Russia forced to respond.
Do not interpret this as “pro Putin” or think that I am totally blind to the reality of the current power structure that is ruling Russia. I know who is Putin and people who are surrounding him. But that is not the point here.
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