Is Kinesis really "that" hard?

[PieRohBro]

I've been fucking around with pyrokinesis for two days so far. At first I tried putting out a candle which didn't work AT ALL. I knew intuitively I could sit there for the entire 5 hour life expectancy of the candle and it wouldn't go out from my energy. I wasn't able to connect to the candle without touching it, and I couldn't hold it without dripping hot wax on my hands.

I decided to start using matches, didn't have any so I just started burning rolled up pieces of paper. To my surprise, putting out small flames wasn't hard at all when I was touching the object. If I allowed the fire to grow too large I was only able to slow it's burning rate slightly, not being able to control it enough. Not that impressive, I know.

Anyway, I just wanted to point out a few details as well:
1. I didn't invoke the fire element, I'm not fire dominant
2. I'm only currently doing 50 aum on the ruling chakra everyday, which isn't that much.
3. I didn't think I'd be able to influence immaterial objects to any capacity, as I'm not even sure how that logically makes sense. I thought not believing I could would prevent me, but it didn't matter.
4. I haven't fucked around with yoga, like ever. I wouldn't say I have a healthy diet and I even use a small amount of fluoride toothpaste daily
5. I don't have any past lives where I used pyrokinesis to my knowledge.

Despite every disadvantage I have while attempting pyrokinesis, I still had results... I really didn't think I would. I have to then conclude pyrokinesis isn't that difficult. If I were to practice it I could definitely get better, not even mentioning the four other things I could do to improve it even further.

My point here is, pretty sure psychokinesis is overrated. I wouldn't be surprised if most people could do pyrokinesis without much effort, especially if you're fire dominant. Obviously mastery of pyrokinesis is a different story, but just doing little parlor tricks like Trebor Seven has done isn't a big deal.

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I already know which comments are going to come up, I'll just address them quickly.

"Practicing pyrokinesis instead of using the time to meditate more for the sake of vanity is inappropriate, foolish, retarded, etc"- Thank you, next

"Pyrokinesis is sacred and you shouldn't be playing around with it"- Nothing is sacred

"You weren't able to do anything"- Sounds like projection to me

I could go on, but don't really care to. If you come here to write dumb shit instead of doing something more productive with your own life, especially considering I only practiced pyro for 30 minutes in total so far and took maybe 10 minutes max to write this, then maybe you should self reflect on that. I see a lot of people wasting a lot of time on these forums, even I use to, for nothing.

 

[Henu the Great]

Why did you create a new user account for this?

 

[Alexandros Iowno [JG]]

In reality it is very difficult to manipulate and control fire. Starting fire "isn't necessarily" hard, but extremely dangerous.

If you "fuck around" with something like this you will burn down your house or yourself. If you cannot stop a candle light do not try anything else. This might sound edgy and fun but reality is grim and dangerous.

You are also mistaken on the necessary power and openness and exercise to do something like this. To me sounds just wishful thinking from your part.

There isn't much parallel to make to a truthful statement about any power of this, as there is quite the complex experience to have to be able to say the above.

Sometimes when there's curiosity and sincere effort to any of this, Demons might help you and do this for you, to make you see that it can be done and possible for you.

However with 2 days, nothing will get accomplished in this way. Focus on actually opening your pathways and energy systems.

 

[PieRohBro]

In reality it is very difficult to manipulate and control fire. Starting fire "isn't necessarily" hard, but extremely dangerous.

If you "fuck around" with something like this you will burn down your house or yourself. If you cannot stop a candle light do not try anything else. This might sound edgy and fun but reality is grim and dangerous.

You are also mistaken on the necessary power and openness and exercise to do something like this. To me sounds just wishful thinking from your part.

There isn't much parallel to make to a truthful statement about any power of this, as there is quite the complex experience to have to be able to say the above.

Sometimes when there's curiosity and sincere effort to any of this, Demons might help you and do this for you, to make you see that it can be done and possible for you.

However with 2 days, nothing will get accomplished in this way. Focus on actually opening your pathways and energy systems.

I wrote a disclaimer for posts like this, smh.

I *did* get results without hardly trying within 2 15 minute sessions, the opinions of people who weren't there are irrelevant... though I admit it does seem unlikely. I don't personally consider it a big deal either, and I didn't come here to brag (that much). I would send a video, but there's too many prying jewish eyes (and much, much muuuuuuuuch worse than that), shoo shoo dirty joooos.

Why don't you ask the Gods whether I did instead? Aren't you suppose to be one of the advanced members here with advanced intuition and direct contact with the Gods? Seems pointless that I'd address these irrational concerns, that lighting a candle or piece of paper under my direct focused supervision would be probable concern of "burning my house down", as if you would be legally liable if that happened, lmao. Irrational fears, as if associated with schizophrenia, will never be a guest in my mind full of plenty of other, at least borderline, problems.

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Off topic but I'm writing this anyway

It seriously pisses me off that I know very loyal people in this community that have been shut out for the dumbest reasons excusable, were never ambitious or otherwise motivated to even TRY something meaningful with PASSION. Sure, maybe that's not this community's fault in any reasonable capacity, but these people (to me at least) represent the final product of what this place offers. Not much. There's only a handful of active people who's been here longer than 5 years, and half of them are probably paid professional infiltrators.

There is a terrible social atmosphere, that people like to think is politics but it certainly isn't, that doesn't allow emotional confidence when one is struggling. People have to, and often do, seek this vulnerability amongst each other in other places that eventually develop into "problematic groups". It just seems like a terrible way to me for dealing with people's very predictable breaks in sense of self and sanity when they walk a path that ultimately CONTRADICTS EVERYTHING THEY KNOW! WTF? Do people always have to have a 100ft pole up their stuck up ass here? If they didn't, they'd be eaten alive by a swarm of blood thirsty phirans, with their own roughly equal sized pole up their own asses too. Look at Fancy Mancy specifically if you doubt this, but he's actually one example where he only got devoured from the waist down (specifically his balls, because that boa's reputation will forever be castrated.

Worse yet, people are becoming too comfortable and settling into conformity within atmospheres they aren't productively challenged in. I know one specific person many of you might know actually, who's been an SS for 10 years+ and just might be the BIGGEST FUCKING LOSER I KNOW! He did the JoS meditations for years, was always loyal to the clergy, never deviated to any unreasonable capacity and ACOMPLISHED JACK SHIT. I ACCOMPLISHED MORE THAN HIM IN 10 YEARS IN 30 MINUTES, and when I offered to help him out of his situation, HE DECIDED TO STAB ME IN THE FUCKING BACK AND DOXXED ME TO WHO FUCKING KNOWS WHO! Fuck that guy. He did a 4 month prosperity ritual and got a minimum wage job at some hipster grocery store LMAO. "I don't know what to tell you, we're on the same level", NO WE AREN'T I'm fucking leagues above you retard degenerate fucking sub-human APE.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

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Your post seems like you are hypersensitive about your position on the forums, or what you think others will say to you. If you then hold an aggressive stance to counter any perceived hostility, this risks creating the very conflict which you are trying to avoid. It is better to be civil until you are forced otherwise.

NakedPluto is basically saying to just be cautious, regardless of whether you did actually manipulate fire or not.
Part of this caution involves balancing your routine and not putting excessive amount of time into specific abilities. This is the main reason why many don't pursue pyrokinesis, not vanity or sacredness.

As for the rest of your concerns: I have seen some instances where people were needlessly harsh to another, but I have also seen many threads of compassion. What you describe needs to be evaluated on a case by case basis.

In regards to Fancy Mancy, he is still accepted here. The concern from his past behavior was that it appeared like he was not doing his meditations and/or talking to known enemies of JoS. I also believe he is sensitive about how others view him here, and this led to aggression on his part, which others took as confirmation of their concerns. I had talked to him about this and he took steps to rectify any problems here.

Also, what is your solution to this scenario you described about this JoS veteran? To me, it sounds like he just needs some guidance on his routine or other workings. However, it appears you are generalizing his situation onto everyone, at least partially. It is important to use your discretion when attempting to discover the root problem of something.

 

[Alexandros Iowno [JG]]

In reality it is very difficult to manipulate and control fire. Starting fire "isn't necessarily" hard, but extremely dangerous.

If you "fuck around" with something like this you will burn down your house or yourself. If you cannot stop a candle light do not try anything else. This might sound edgy and fun but reality is grim and dangerous.

You are also mistaken on the necessary power and openness and exercise to do something like this. To me sounds just wishful thinking from your part.

There isn't much parallel to make to a truthful statement about any power of this, as there is quite the complex experience to have to be able to say the above.

Sometimes when there's curiosity and sincere effort to any of this, Demons might help you and do this for you, to make you see that it can be done and possible for you.

However with 2 days, nothing will get accomplished in this way. Focus on actually opening your pathways and energy systems.

I wrote a disclaimer for posts like this, smh.

I *did* get results without hardly trying within 2 15 minute sessions, the opinions of people who weren't there are irrelevant... though I admit it does seem unlikely. I don't personally consider it a big deal either, and I didn't come here to brag (that much). I would send a video, but there's too many prying jewish eyes (and much, much muuuuuuuuch worse than that), shoo shoo dirty joooos.

Why don't you ask the Gods whether I did instead? Aren't you suppose to be one of the advanced members here with advanced intuition and direct contact with the Gods? Seems pointless that I'd address these irrational concerns, that lighting a candle or piece of paper under my direct focused supervision would be probable concern of "burning my house down", as if you would be legally liable if that happened, lmao. Irrational fears, as if associated with schizophrenia, will never be a guest in my mind full of plenty of other, at least borderline, problems.

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Off topic but I'm writing this anyway

It seriously pisses me off that I know very loyal people in this community that have been shut out for the dumbest reasons excusable, were never ambitious or otherwise motivated to even TRY something meaningful with PASSION. Sure, maybe that's not this community's fault in any reasonable capacity, but these people (to me at least) represent the final product of what this place offers. Not much. There's only a handful of active people who's been here longer than 5 years, and half of them are probably paid professional infiltrators.

There is a terrible social atmosphere, that people like to think is politics but it certainly isn't, that doesn't allow emotional confidence when one is struggling. People have to, and often do, seek this vulnerability amongst each other in other places that eventually develop into "problematic groups". It just seems like a terrible way to me for dealing with people's very predictable breaks in sense of self and sanity when they walk a path that ultimately CONTRADICTS EVERYTHING THEY KNOW! WTF? Do people always have to have a 100ft pole up their stuck up ass here? If they didn't, they'd be eaten alive by a swarm of blood thirsty phirans, with their own roughly equal sized pole up their own asses too. Look at Fancy Mancy specifically if you doubt this, but he's actually one example where he only got devoured from the waist down (specifically his balls, because that boa's reputation will forever be castrated.

Worse yet, people are becoming too comfortable and settling into conformity within atmospheres they aren't productively challenged in. I know one specific person many of you might know actually, who's been an SS for 10 years+ and just might be the BIGGEST FUCKING LOSER I KNOW! He did the JoS meditations for years, was always loyal to the clergy, never deviated to any unreasonable capacity and ACOMPLISHED JACK SHIT. I ACCOMPLISHED MORE THAN HIM IN 10 YEARS IN 30 MINUTES, and when I offered to help him out of his situation, HE DECIDED TO STAB ME IN THE FUCKING BACK AND DOXXED ME TO WHO FUCKING KNOWS WHO! Fuck that guy. He did a 4 month prosperity ritual and got a minimum wage job at some hipster grocery store LMAO. "I don't know what to tell you, we're on the same level", NO WE AREN'T I'm fucking leagues above you retard degenerate fucking sub-human APE.

You are imagining that lightning something of fire is a big deal that would make a difference and a power statement. You also do this in contrast to laugh about others, not to challenge anyone really.

The guy you mentioned that did 4 months working for an honest job, in my view is much more sane and of a quality than random erratic things.

Since I don't know about who and what is the situation of that SS and you, I am addressing this from a hypothetical situation based on what you told me.

The judgement on this is based on the maturity aspect, that he spent 4 months and shared with you this. And he succeeded.

Yet you spent 30 minutes lighting a small flame which is the reasoning of a spark, nothing more than this, and more than this, it made you feel enough to belittle other people here and "challenge" us.

You tell me who has the better quality of investment and who's on the way of the true superhuman.

This is not wrong, but having strong statements and intents will receive the same, of course with good purpose and with the aim of being helpful.

The warning I gave you is actually very necessary and is not of a legal liability aspect, as there's no true basis for any legal terms in this since we talk about spirituality and intent, no actual material act of lighting with a material known process, but by "thought" .

Fire element, intent of lighting, of sparking even when not sufficient to produce it in the moment, can pool around the surroundings and will manifest.

Either by accidents, fires, destroying electrical components, strokes etc. This is not something you might receive as an advice, as there are few who can actually give it to you. Since that is the case, you can value this advice as you see fit.

I would want to hear challenges to our SS, since you are open and spoken about your level, that suit the lower levels of us, and as such adapted to our needs for us to succeed like you.

I take it from your advice, that we need a fiery approach to life and a little bit of youthful ignorance. Maybe a little ego of the blunt form.

The point is from the above to advance even more, and mature it, to a more stable and passionate side and actually control it, since this is only an emotional chain reaction to the overwhelming of life in general.

As for the infiltrators that are paid of long-term, unless you clarify directly what you meant about this in this context of discussion, I don't see the meaning of this.

There are SS that are advancing very highly and some have also extreme power. I know because I was told by the Gods. I also can see and know. You not seeing this, or understand why this is not advertised, well it is with a reason and not a community problem but an internal one that you need to resolve and ask why.

A secret to this is, one can know the level of someone else by reading their responses. Maybe even asking the Gods. Maybe advance yourself and get to know and form an appreciation of what this path is about. Then you can be perceptive and know and see, the changes in others and the beauty of the superiors and those who walk up to them.