Kudra said:
Dahaarkan said:
Ghost in the Machine said:
"Delight in what you create, and delight in what you destroy."
- Satan
your signature btw
I think that that is only temporary, while things are in turmoil. Once the SS/NS and Golden Age return, things would be much more calm and settled.
WARNING - I am quite graphic in what I type below. I know at least one thread of a person who wanted to know how to overcome severe and extreme problems regarding sexual violation against them.
Saying that (in my first paragraph), though, which I have said before and it does seem relevant here - how far can we go with "free will", with Satan saying that He allows us to follow the dictates of our Nature? When does it cross the line into opposing Him? What then, if - for example, as you just asked about rape - someone, an SS new or old, wanted to rape? Yeah - why not go straight for an extreme thing and ask such a question as rape? It could also be torture or whatever else, as well. I don't think most others here would mention such things and ask such questions, so... We are "allowed" to bind, maim and kill others; why not keep them as rape slaves and/or rape them to death? We'd be getting pleasure and we could use the sexual energies. What if this SS realised the potential victim was beyond repair? Maybe an invalid/retard/spastic, incapable of reincarnating so they'd might as well be thrown away? I do realise the moral, ethical, right-versus-wrong, Spirituality of Energies mingling and dirtying the SS...and of course legalities...but I am not asking about those things.
If we can kill with Magick, we could do a working to make sure that we could get away with murdering someone by chopping them up into tiny, little pieces with an axe instead while they are conscious for as long as possible. If it's a jew, then - soon - the World will welcome such thing - ignoring the disgusting and unwanted interactions with such a being of the act, using the example of rape above - why not torture it for a prolonged period of time? I think the only argument against doing such a thing is to keep yourself clean, instead of mixing with the jew, but maybe everything else would be permissibile. Maybe
for the time being, we could rape/chop to bits without anaesthetic, etc., a person who would be thrown away, one of the segregated christians/muslims, an individual who can't reincarnate, someone who simply rejects Satan for whatever beyond-belief reason... Maybe, as christians and muslims should be segregated, other
untermensch-types would be left to rape and chop-to-bits others, away from the main societies. The question of their - the violent person and the victim - reincarnation would be interesting to find the answers to. Maybe some would become Gods and Goddesses and want to go off and make their own domain (if possible) and be like a jehova - "god of evil" - themself in thier own domain. Of course, with cleaning out their Soul and Mind through meditations, keeping themselves fit and healthy, and then achieving the Magnum Opus, they would re-tune their morals, etc. so as not to want to do and be such things, but I meant just ignoring that.
I do like asking these types of what I consider either difficult questions, or at least horrible or uncomfortable - unconventional - questions. I think most others wouldn't ask them, or wouldn't
think about such topics to ask them, so I don't mind. I am thinking that in realistic terms, maybe there are already, and/or there will be some SSs who might be along these lines, and they do or will want such questions answered, but are too afraid or uncomfortable to ask them. If Satan and some Gods and Goddesses - including Hitler - are to return in about 20 years or so, then in 20 years these types of things would either not matter or they would start to not matter anymore, but for now things seem as if they are going to get worse and worse.
I think it was a very good idea to use rape in the question. A lot of people are (pun not intended) fucked-up sexually. There has been so much suppression, oppression, repression...which leads to depression and other extremes and over-the-top needs and things.
Delight in what you destroy - I won't say it, but maybe consider "destroying" in the sexual/rapey sense, which some individuals might say. As with oppression, suppression and repression which leads to depression and other extremes, people have to fight hard for what they want, and this bubbles up some things inside which are uncomfortable, but also too subtle for many people to notice, and when those things come out, things happen. People are pissed off, but also distracted, so the negativity is there but it is hidden and unnoticeable, it is too subtle, because they are busy with their lives, so while they're getting on with their lives, these bad bubbling-up things are harming them unconsciously...which makes other things happen.
With members saying about discouraging the enjoyment of, and relishing in, the pain and suffering of an enemy - this just reminds me that Whites can be too sentimental and soft. That might sound harsh, but it has been quite true. During war, you have to kill the enemy. Maybe that is difficult and horrible and disgusting, but you'd might as well at least try to enjoy it, so that while you're busy in the war effort, you are concentrating on that and the reward of the enjoyment spurs you on; later, back at "camp", when you're on release, you can mourn over the horrible things you had to do - but I would say mourn, except over the enemy. It deserves a lot of suffering for what it has done.
Dahaarkan said:
This is a difficult topic to discuss for obvious reasons but I'll try to explain without breaking any forum rules.
This is quite simple to understand 2000+ years of curses, rape, murder and misery are starting to manifest as violent tendencies and impulses in people. People are fed up and filled with hate and anger and this ties into a subconscious desire for justice whether they themselves understand this or not.
The gentile people of Satan have had enough and the more that people become aware and the more that the enemy's bullshit is exposed the angrier and more violent they become. This is as it should be. Attempting to deconstruct this is counter-productive and suicidal.
I typed what I typed above before reading your reply here. Yes, it is counter-productive and suicidal. We should not slacken. The anger and hate should not be left to spray out like a graffiti spray can; rather, it should be applied more finely and more accurately. Hey - it's an art. In other words, it should be channeled and directed nicely. I wonder, at this point, if using the Rune THURISAZ would work wonders -
The power of this rune is wild and a strong mind/will is needed to direct it.
It might be complemented by the anger and hatred which has built-up over the centuries, racially, but also in the Souls of individuals being reincarnated again and again. Not blind rage, going off like a madman; more like Frank Castle in
The Punisher - focussed and determined.
Ghost is a great guy and I deeply appreciate his contribution but his post on this topic is an embarrassing mess. Not only demanding someone re-write their own nature to suit his personal bias but also doing so as if he speaks for the gods. It's good that people have a burning desire to bring scum to justice. The reason the world is as horrible as it is is because not enough people feel this way and criminals continue to make the world worse.
The most tragic and ironic part of Ghost's post is that his signature completely destroys his own post. I also find it deeply disturbing that a person made a post expressing their hatred and anger towards the enemy and he instantly replies telling them to deconstruct these feelings.
I am not going to dwell on this - and
Ghost in the Machine said:
Ghost, you could do with a good belly tickle sometimes! - but sometimes I do wonder about Ghost and what he says...
Satan has spoken and Israel will get what she deserves,
slyscorpion said:
This is exactly the reason I am not sure i like it when people post torture fantasies about the Jews like has happened sometimes on some threads.
The jew itself is extremely paranoid, and it also says so in its "holy" book that if the Goyim knew about the jew, then the Goyim would kill the jew openly. It might - in realistic terms - be a fantasy, and I have had 1 or 2 other users sort of dip their toe in with me slightly, but - in legal ways (probably when things change it will be legal) - it shouldn't be a fantasy; rather, a reality.
regardless of what some misguided Satanists believe. And after those of us who can get their hands dirty annihilate all the criminal scum you can sit there and judge us from the security we provide you.
You have not stated what, exactly, you might intend or wish/prefer - and I am not asking you to say, nor am I trying subtly to coax you into saying it, so I expect that you might not reply about that, but... my "fantasies" here, which surely others agree with, even if they have not said so, really should be a reality. Perhaps not in the ways I have mentioned, but the jew should pay. It should be
given something to cry about.
Ghost in the Machine said:
Hatred and anger upon the enemy and desires to see them or anyone who does such evil things like them suffer and be tortured for all their wrongs is born from the underlying desires of justice in order to protect what is right, good and positive.
Taking any examples of extreme violence and violation (if punishment can be called a violation) which have been presented in this thread, and the (perverse?) enjoyment and relishing in such pain, agony and suffering of the enemy's torment, it can be very seductive. Seeing/reading about some things where persons need to get gratification, whether sexual or not, from torturing a person and murdering them painfuly, etc., - I think that they didn't just jump into it; rather, something popped in their mind (and I don't mean their Brain died, but...) and the idea was there, and it played and played over a period of time, to where they got aroused by it, they were seduced enough to actually perform the act (rape, torture, painful murder...). Then they enjoyed it and it was nice and pleasurable...but just like porn, it's not enough and they need more and more. What I don't understand, though, is how the negativity, the low-vibrational Energies can be so seductive, so tasty, so pleasurable to the palate. Surely they must think and realise it's disgusting, immoral, etc., but they still enjoy it very much. How... I have no idea.
Regarding doing such things against enemies - or
the enemy specifically - I think it might be more permissible. People would get the satisfaction of taking revenge, and eradicating a big, big problem. That's not to say, perhaps, that they would go back to their family and friends and do the same against them. Of course, there might be exceptions who would lose track of things where they care more about the pleasure of that seduction and "need" to do it again against their friendlies, rather than just enjoying their enemy being in pain as punishment.
So no it is not born from negativity, it is born from positivity because it is their disgusting transgressions against all that is good and positive that fuels this hatred and rage and for all the disgusting wicked things they are. There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting torture and immense suffering or even wishing death upon the enemy or anyone who enjoys torturing the innocent or such disgusting and sadistic things like that, it is perfectly natural and Satan stands for justice.
As long as the justice-giver/s keep focus, as I said just above, that they don't become seduced by it. I think that's why military personnel are programmed/brainwashed into fight/shoot mode, which they snap into and out of.
However, to be that person who desires to watch or make children or animals like puppies and kittens suffer, to enjoy and sadistically revel in their torment is to revel in the negative energies brought forth from such destruction and sadistic defilement of such positive and innocent things, this is fueled by the desire and drawing to negativity, to spread and relish in negativity and to crush and ruin all that is positive. To bring suffering upon good, positive and innocence for the sake of reveling in the suffering and ruin of such is sick, disgusting, parasitic and goes against morale.
I am not excusing nor forgiving sexual violence in what I say, but... take christian "priests" for example - some of them are not "allowed" to have sex. In similar ways, incels or other individuals who might be deemed deranged
need orgasm - we as Spiritual Satanists know how important sex is - this has been covered a lot already; some of those who cannot "get some" would be driven by this need, this requirement, to go and violate someone. Then there is the topic of fighting it out, to get the blood-lust and the 'horniness' out in non-sexual ways; violence is required but the individual might not have a viable sparring partner.
They probably watched a lot of porn and they became desensitised to it and got very bored with it, and they had erectile dysfunction Psychologically, so they were seduced into - and Naturally-required to - find orgasms in other ways (if not find a sparring partner to fight it out of themselves). Perhaps they didn't
choose their victim for whatever sexually-attractive reasons; rather - and if you'll excuse the term - it was that "any hole's a goal". In a similar sense to above - things need to be directed and channeled properly, and for whatever reason/s, it had just gone wild and became unfettered. Of course, this is not every case, but it is an example of some. So I think for some, they might not want to destroy good, positive, nice things, but they were gagging (not in the sense of choking; the British slang meaning) for orgasms, and they didn't have anyone to fight with to try and get it out that way. Of course, there would be some who'd enjoy destroying good, positive, nice things for "fun" or "sport".
Satan and our gods deeply despise it.
Despite in the example I gave if it applied to any individual, I expect that Satan and the Gods and Goddesses would not permit it and would not decide to not punish the individual regardless - even though They can see into the individual's Soul and Chakras and see what cleanings and works need to be done.
Kudra said:
I somehow have some desires for violence and bloody scenes for a long time. I want to hear someone's scream and groan in fear and silence them brutally.
I know if I abuse a person somehow Satan will not be pround of me. And I know if I silence an animal somehow Satan will kill me. So I think that if jews were tortured to death both Satan and me will be happy.
If I had a chance I will smash a kike's head into tiny pieces someday. If I can't do it physically I will try to kill someone with black magick. Do you think abusing kikes illegal in Satan's laws?
I think at this point I should link my own thread which I asked before -
An objective question about Animal mistreatment
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=40611&p=158825
It could also be applied directly or indirectly to Children, vulnerable people,
untermensch, the handicapped, those who will not reincarnate, not the jew, those who are to be thrown away, etc.
Ghost in the Machine said:
I too desire in wanting to see the enemy scream in anguish, torment and eternal suffering for all of their wrongs. I want to envision them in the most horrific of horrors and tortures for all of eternity in justice for their sickening and disgustingly filthy transgressions they've done upon humanity and all life, for even so much as existing.
...but that may not happen. Either the reptillians and/or Satan and any Gods and Goddesses will destroy the jew anyway; therefore, just like in the examples and scenarios I just gave - it is also about satisfaction. Not just sexual gratification, but the satisfaction of achieving something. Having closure. Of course, for the continuing seduction of the things, it is not proper closure. It is alluring but it is not fulfilling. It's more a substitute for the actually healthy and good things which actually can fulfill. The higher vibrations are increasingly higher and higher, like dopamine and other pleasurable rewarding chemicals; whereas the lower vibrations are bouncing slightly above the ground, slightly above the bottom of the barrel and the individual is scraping the bottom of the barrel for things to give it pleasure and fulfillment and pride and self-worth and self-esteem.
While the individual is very low, at the bottom of the barrel, the energies are higher but only slightly because they bounce up a bit, but they are still shit and low energies, and it is these slightly-higher low vibrations which the drug-user, rapist, murderer, etc., who is seduced seeks - but because they are shit, low-vibration energies, they
cannot be fulfilling; the individual cannot be fulfilled; the individual's Brain grabbed hold of that shit-pleasure. Like I have said before - what we are, increases. The Brain, in the individual, was enticed by the high-sudden-pleasure, which caused the Brain to be fried, and after enough times, the Brain was numbed by the seduction - drunk, intoxicated but figuratively (whether literally or not) - and the Brain can't think straight. This then lowers the Brain's and Mind's abilities to sense these pleasurable things, fulfillments, which is still drunk/intoxicated, and only the very basic Brain/Mind "nerves" and "senses" can pick up on only the lower vibrations. I think I just answered my own wondering which I said above, about not understanding how it can be enticing.
Satan stands for justice. Our real gods and demons have indeed killed and brought suffering and severe misery and torture upon the enemy and ignorant humans even on Earth who have summoned them most cruelly in binding and new age garbage with mistreatment and offense.
If it is true that one of HPS Maxine's former friends, who used to take the piss out of her and also used to have interracial sex with Blacks, was reincarnated into the Black Race, then that would be very torturous for her Soul firstly, for being reincarnated into a Black Race Body, but then also for her Soul's unconscious Mind along with her current Black Race Mind/Psychology/Consciousness, being out-of-sync with her own-Race Soul during Black Race upbringing, etc., and then possibly her Black Race Body due to it having her own-Race Soul, since the Mind, Body and Soul all affect each other... I would think that that would be very torturous indeed.
If someone does a severe wrong to you or even someone else like someone you love and care about, to want them to suffer or to be tortured for it is natural and how it is in real morality.
If we can use Magick to cause them illness or death, or cause them to lose their job and friends, etc., then that would be torturous in one or more ways. Maybe not Physical violence torture ways, but still extremely unpleasant.
Kudra said:
Maybe you need to find yourself a sparring partner. It might sublimate it, and keep you fit.
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