How do i let go of someone if i truely love her

[One Wire Phenomenon]

i really didn't believe in true love or like love stuff like in the movies but i feel missing without this person i feel empty and like nothing matters. i dont know how to describe it. I feel we really are meant to be together and im not talking only from a lustful perspective im talking about a deep deep deep connection i have with her that extends deep into the astral. Doesn't matter what i do like i forget about her for a while and started feeling strong like I don't need her and im over her. i had this self confident thoughts and feelings that felt relieving but tonight i felt her again on the Astral i saw her going outside looking at the moon and it was like we were both thinking of eachother at the same time. I could feel it strongly. It makes me so sad an unacceptable that im not with her and it was never meant to end like it did. We were supposed to marry and have a children

Im hopeless... I have nothing absolutely nothing if i dont have her the happyness i have is an illusion i see it now.I don't know if i have any meaning in life even if i am of Satan. i Just really feel i want to not exist if i cannot be with her. Strangely the past couple of weeks i have had a dislike towards woman or let me rather say i didn't feel the need to have sex with them or be around them. My masterbating routine has changed aswell and if i had to choose a woman or masterbating i would choose masterbating. She always said i will try to look for her in others but i won't find her. She said one day she will leave and i wont see her forever she's gone. She was my true drive in life and i fucked it up thanks to circumstances and Jewish bullshit. My connection with her will carry through to my next life and i will feel sad and will be missing this person without even knowing her. I will be lonely again. I feel i want to not exist at all and not be born again. I don't want my soul to be used as a energy battery for a discusting alien thats already the case. im fucked either way.


Please don't reply its not a real question its just me expressing something i cannot beat even if i try.

Im just taking each day as it comes. I hate the people i work with and i hate the same bullshit everyday of my life. I litterly do it for four things and thats to make my mom happy, to earn money to donate to JoS and so that i dont have to go back to that fucking farm and live with that creature thing i call grandma and of course i need to eat and stuff. There is no further meaning to my life.

My life is empty without my drive....

 

[Shadowcat]

i really didn't believe in true love or like love stuff like in the movies but i feel missing without this person i feel empty and like nothing matters. i dont know how to describe it. I feel we really are meant to be together and im not talking only from a lustful perspective im talking about a deep deep deep connection i have with her that extends deep into the astral. Doesn't matter what i do like i forget about her for a while and started feeling strong like I don't need her and im over her. i had this self confident thoughts and feelings that felt relieving but tonight i felt her again on the Astral i saw her going outside looking at the moon and it was like we were both thinking of eachother at the same time. I could feel it strongly. It makes me so sad an unacceptable that im not with her and it was never meant to end like it did. We were supposed to marry and have a children

Im hopeless... I have nothing absolutely nothing if i dont have her the happyness i have is an illusion i see it now.I don't know if i have any meaning in life even if i am of Satan. i Just really feel i want to not exist if i cannot be with her. Strangely the past couple of weeks i have had a dislike towards woman or let me rather say i didn't feel the need to have sex with them or be around them. My masterbating routine has changed aswell and if i had to choose a woman or masterbating i would choose masterbating. She always said i will try to look for her in others but i won't find her. She said one day she will leave and i wont see her forever she's gone. She was my true drive in life and i fucked it up thanks to circumstances and Jewish bullshit. My connection with her will carry through to my next life and i will feel sad and will be missing this person without even knowing her. I will be lonely again. I feel i want to not exist at all and not be born again. I don't want my soul to be used as a energy battery for a discusting alien thats already the case. im fucked either way.


Please don't reply its not a real question its just me expressing something i cannot beat even if i try.

Im just taking each day as it comes. I hate the people i work with and i hate the same bullshit everyday of my life. I litterly do it for four things and thats to make my mom happy, to earn money to donate to JoS and so that i dont have to go back to that fucking farm and live with that creature thing i call grandma and of course i need to eat and stuff. There is no further meaning to my life.

My life is empty without my drive....

But the only real reason you are also still posting this is because you feel hopeless and are hoping for input and help.
I know all about that venus/pluto type shit and it hurts like a bitch, especially being water dominant. If this is the one that hurt you and cheated the last thing she deserves is your attention and love. I would suggest doing a freeing the soul working or an aura detachment. You can also do a venus square soon to attract the perfect partner for you and combine this with runes. Money workings and jupiter and or sun squares may also help your overall situation in getting a job with a better environment and better pay and maybe even a better place to live. Yoga and working on your soul overall will also help with these negative feelings and it will ground you.

 

[Jack]

Sometimes I read this forum and I feel like a lot of things people say gives me epiphanies. Things that I wouldn't actually have thought of before.

I actually came across a girl somedays ago that I was in love with a couple of years ago. And it's the only time I was so obsessed with a girl that I was considering resorting to using magick and breaking her up from her boyfriend. I couldn't go through with it because I had a really bad vibe when I consulted advice from the Gods. That intense feeling that I felt while looking into her eyes has still been unmatched. And I can say that whatever that feeling was ,it was definitely special.

And that was the final straw for me. Because I couldn't have her ,something changed for me internally and since then I've had a feeling of acceptance that I might never experience that same feeling again. Even my current gf ,even though she's great she can't replicate that same feeling when I looked into that girls eyes. It was like I was drifting in space and that nothing existed other than her. A piercing sun that cut through all the dross in this world.

I came to the conclusion that some of the things are awarded to some people because of karma and some things are taken from others. Since I can't find my purpose in human emotions because she didn't reciprocate it ,it must mean that my purpose is entirely personal, and is in my own spiritual liberation. There are predetermined things you do step by step to become rich, to improve your health and fitness and in almost everything in life other than to a woman's heart. There's no action, no particular thing to say or act that guarantees that she will agree to be with you. It's just one thing in life that no matter how many girls you sleep with ,you always remember that the one particular girl that you actually wanted didn't love you back and none of the sex matters. It's all worthless. You can't force her to love her. You can't fake Love. You can't fake it.

I can honestly say that I've become more and more detached from caring about people as a whole since then. I can honestly put my faith in myself and my actions. Everything and Everyone can leave you. There's nothing you can do to make others like you. This world is amoral. For a brief period of time after that I would get pissed off at seeing happy couples and hope that the entire world burned down so that they could all suffer alongside me. But after doing some emotional healing workings, I've become ambivalent to that ,not caring honestly.

I think it's tit for tat and a sacrificial Karmic thing that is forcing me into this perception so that I focus on achieving liberation through spirituality. Because even if I can't have the special materialistic human feeling while looking into her eyes ,I have the spiritual knowledge that no one else has. And God wants me to pursue the Spiritual path with being detached from the world in order to make sure I don't get distracted. Because otherwise it would mean that there is no reason for my suffering and existence is inherently for no particular reason insufferable just for me.

 

[Shadowcat]

Sometimes I read this forum and I feel like a lot of things people say gives me epiphanies. Things that I wouldn't actually have thought of before.

I actually came across a girl somedays ago that I was in love with a couple of years ago. And it's the only time I was so obsessed with a girl that I was considering resorting to using magick and breaking her up from her boyfriend. I couldn't go through with it because I had a really bad vibe when I consulted advice from the Gods. That intense feeling that I felt while looking into her eyes has still been unmatched. And I can say that whatever that feeling was ,it was definitely special.

And that was the final straw for me. Because I couldn't have her ,something changed for me internally and since then I've had a feeling of acceptance that I might never experience that same feeling again. Even my current gf ,even though she's great she can't replicate that same feeling when I looked into that girls eyes. It was like I was drifting in space and that nothing existed other than her. A piercing sun that cut through all the dross in this world.

I came to the conclusion that some of the things are awarded to some people because of karma and some things are taken from others. Since I can't find my purpose in human emotions because she didn't reciprocate it ,it must mean that my purpose is entirely personal, and is in my own spiritual liberation. There are predetermined things you do step by step to become rich, to improve your health and fitness and in almost everything in life other than to a woman's heart. There's no action, no particular thing to say or act that guarantees that she will agree to be with you. It's just one thing in life that no matter how many girls you sleep with ,you always remember that the one particular girl that you actually wanted didn't love you back and none of the sex matters. It's all worthless. You can't force her to love her. You can't fake Love. You can't fake it.

I can honestly say that I've become more and more detached from caring about people as a whole since then. I can honestly put my faith in myself and my actions. Everything and Everyone can leave you. There's nothing you can do to make others like you. This world is amoral. For a brief period of time after that I would get pissed off at seeing happy couples and hope that the entire world burned down so that they could all suffer alongside me. But after doing some emotional healing workings, I've become ambivalent to that ,not caring honestly.

I think it's tit for tat and a sacrificial Karmic thing that is forcing me into this perception so that I focus on achieving liberation through spirituality. Because even if I can't have the special materialistic human feeling while looking into her eyes ,I have the spiritual knowledge that no one else has. And God wants me to pursue the Spiritual path with being detached from the world in order to make sure I don't get distracted. Because otherwise it would mean that there is no reason for my suffering and existence is inherently for no particular reason insufferable just for me.

And that was the final straw for me. Because I couldn't have her ,something changed for me internally and since then I've had a feeling of acceptance that I might never experience that same feeling again. Even my current gf ,even though she's great she can't replicate that same feeling when I looked into that girls eyes.

Was this the first love? I actually wrote in another post longer ago that the first time feeling of love is always the strongest and if it breaks there can be no other almost that rivals it. I believe this also has something to do with maybe a chemical tolerance of dopamine in the brain.

It's actually what makes it ideal that before a first love is encountered for young people that all things must be considered including astrology. In a proper society all these things IMO would be done, which would mitigate paring with the wrong person. It would make for less jaded and less damaged people, but more people whose capacity to feel in love and bond would be at maximum potential.

Secondly, if this was not the first love for you, maybe you two had some sort of past life connection and this made for some sort of special energy you felt that you can't explain.

 

[Jack]

Sometimes I read this forum and I feel like a lot of things people say gives me epiphanies. Things that I wouldn't actually have thought of before.

I actually came across a girl somedays ago that I was in love with a couple of years ago. And it's the only time I was so obsessed with a girl that I was considering resorting to using magick and breaking her up from her boyfriend. I couldn't go through with it because I had a really bad vibe when I consulted advice from the Gods. That intense feeling that I felt while looking into her eyes has still been unmatched. And I can say that whatever that feeling was ,it was definitely special.

And that was the final straw for me. Because I couldn't have her ,something changed for me internally and since then I've had a feeling of acceptance that I might never experience that same feeling again. Even my current gf ,even though she's great she can't replicate that same feeling when I looked into that girls eyes. It was like I was drifting in space and that nothing existed other than her. A piercing sun that cut through all the dross in this world.

I came to the conclusion that some of the things are awarded to some people because of karma and some things are taken from others. Since I can't find my purpose in human emotions because she didn't reciprocate it ,it must mean that my purpose is entirely personal, and is in my own spiritual liberation. There are predetermined things you do step by step to become rich, to improve your health and fitness and in almost everything in life other than to a woman's heart. There's no action, no particular thing to say or act that guarantees that she will agree to be with you. It's just one thing in life that no matter how many girls you sleep with ,you always remember that the one particular girl that you actually wanted didn't love you back and none of the sex matters. It's all worthless. You can't force her to love her. You can't fake Love. You can't fake it.

I can honestly say that I've become more and more detached from caring about people as a whole since then. I can honestly put my faith in myself and my actions. Everything and Everyone can leave you. There's nothing you can do to make others like you. This world is amoral. For a brief period of time after that I would get pissed off at seeing happy couples and hope that the entire world burned down so that they could all suffer alongside me. But after doing some emotional healing workings, I've become ambivalent to that ,not caring honestly.

I think it's tit for tat and a sacrificial Karmic thing that is forcing me into this perception so that I focus on achieving liberation through spirituality. Because even if I can't have the special materialistic human feeling while looking into her eyes ,I have the spiritual knowledge that no one else has. And God wants me to pursue the Spiritual path with being detached from the world in order to make sure I don't get distracted. Because otherwise it would mean that there is no reason for my suffering and existence is inherently for no particular reason insufferable just for me.

And that was the final straw for me. Because I couldn't have her ,something changed for me internally and since then I've had a feeling of acceptance that I might never experience that same feeling again. Even my current gf ,even though she's great she can't replicate that same feeling when I looked into that girls eyes.

Was this the first love? I actually wrote in another post longer ago that the first time feeling of love is always the strongest and if it breaks there can be no other almost that rivals it. I believe this also has something to do with maybe a chemical tolerance of dopamine in the brain.

It's actually what makes it ideal that before a first love is encountered for young people that all things must be considered including astrology. In a proper society all these things IMO would be done, which would mitigate paring with the wrong person. It would make for less jaded and less damaged people, but more people whose capacity to feel in love and bond would be at maximum potential.

Secondly, if this was not the first love for you, maybe you two had some sort of past life connection and this made for some sort of special energy you felt that you can't explain.

I was attracted to and had sex with other women before. But it's probably the only time I felt a special connection that has been unmatched ever since.

 

[Account]

I highly recommend deep cleansing with the sphere of light that attracts negativity from each chakra combined with chakra and soul liberation.
It will give you relief, also ask a demon to help you if you feel the need.

I did it today in a weak form and the negative feelings listed by jack have disappeared.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

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Synastry and Magic

I think the girl you were obsessed with had some pluto-venus synastry with you, probably on a hard aspect, and possibly other strong, similar connections. I also believe that the bad vibe you were given from the Gods indicated that a relationship with her may aggravate your past negative karma pertaining to relationships. Perhaps she would've broken your heart or something.

You can definitely find this in other people, or create such a connection yourself with runes. This is what your Gebo working did for your current relationship: it facilitated Venusian love between two people. You can continue to use Gebo, Eiwhaz, Ehwaz, Berkano, Nauthiz, among other runes to further create positive synastry connections with your current girlfriend, each doing something unique.

People with Saturn-Venus synastry will stick to a relationship even when it is bad, such as for the kids or something. Pluto-Venus creates obsessions and transformations, which can be positive through harmonious aspects. Pluto-Moon, Venus-Moon, etc are also good. There are many ways you can perfect a relationship.


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My Experience with Relationship Karma

I agree that one should try to advance as fast as possible, but this definitely shouldn't be done at the expense of damaging your deep emotions pertaining to loving another person. Even if you choose this path, it sounds like you have more work to do in clearing out karma. These ideas you have still sound like you are suffering, to put it simply.

I can relate to you because I had/may still have similar ideas. I have some placements that can make me block others from getting too close to me. After doing some karma removal for this, it manifested as strange feelings of "fuck everyone, what have they done for me. I can do this on my own."

This lasted for a day or two, culminating in me crying super hard, in my bed. It seemed like the sheer sadness of that kind of pain boiled up and all rushed out. Afterward, I felt much better and less inclined to block myself from certain interactions.


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Emotional Trauma

I saw a phrase soon after, something like "Extreme Circumstance Demand Extreme Actions" or something, from a Death Metal band. So I assume I was compensating for some trauma from the past.

That sort of phrase seems to describe your feelings and ideas here. We are supposed to advance ourselves in all ways, including emotionally. This is not supposed to conflict with your advancement, nor is it right for you to be doomed to this sort of "robotic" existence. HPS Maxine had a family and still advanced herself, for example.

Furthermore, such blockages could actually hinder you, at certain points in your development. In that way, I believe you have to deal with this sooner or later.

It's not your fault that the enemy created such conditions that made you jaded. I have seen quite a few SS charts that have shown negative karma pertaining to love, manifesting in different ways. I don't think it is surprising that our souls get like this, after many lifetimes of trying to pick up the pieces from enemy destruction.


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Liberation from Suffering

Through the efforts of the Gods and from ourselves, we are no longer helpless. Humanity will no longer suffer from the enemy in these coming decades. Therefore, it is time for everyone to get past their karma. We are on the path of advancement.

You speak of spiritual liberation, but just as that includes freedom from financial or health problems, so does it mean freedom from emotional problems as well.

We get so badly hurt because our relational bonds are so strong. These bonds are strong because they are meant to keep the family, the race, and the soul family together. Such bonds are why the Gods worked to rescue us, and why you would run into a burning building for your loved ones as well.

Astarte's page elaborates on love and its benefits. You should not screw yourself so badly out of something you rightly deserve. Karma can make you have errant thoughts, but do your best to look past this, for the sake of your total advancement.

 

[Jack]

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Synastry and Magic

I think the girl you were obsessed with had some pluto-venus synastry with you, probably on a hard aspect, and possibly other strong, similar connections. I also believe that the bad vibe you were given from the Gods indicated that a relationship with her may aggravate your past negative karma pertaining to relationships. Perhaps she would've broken your heart or something.

You can definitely find this in other people, or create such a connection yourself with runes. This is what your Gebo working did for your current relationship: it facilitated Venusian love between two people. You can continue to use Gebo, Eiwhaz, Ehwaz, Berkano, Nauthiz, among other runes to further create positive synastry connections with your current girlfriend, each doing something unique.

People with Saturn-Venus synastry will stick to a relationship even when it is bad, such as for the kids or something. Pluto-Venus creates obsessions and transformations, which can be positive through harmonious aspects. Pluto-Moon, Venus-Moon, etc are also good. There are many ways you can perfect a relationship.


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My Experience with Relationship Karma

I agree that one should try to advance as fast as possible, but this definitely shouldn't be done at the expense of damaging your deep emotions pertaining to loving another person. Even if you choose this path, it sounds like you have more work to do in clearing out karma. These ideas you have still sound like you are suffering, to put it simply.

I can relate to you because I had/may still have similar ideas. I have some placements that can make me block others from getting too close to me. After doing some karma removal for this, it manifested as strange feelings of "fuck everyone, what have they done for me. I can do this on my own."

This lasted for a day or two, culminating in me crying super hard, in my bed. It seemed like the sheer sadness of that kind of pain boiled up and all rushed out. Afterward, I felt much better and less inclined to block myself from certain interactions.


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Emotional Trauma

I saw a phrase soon after, something like "Extreme Circumstance Demand Extreme Actions" or something, from a Death Metal band. So I assume I was compensating for some trauma from the past.

That sort of phrase seems to describe your feelings and ideas here. We are supposed to advance ourselves in all ways, including emotionally. This is not supposed to conflict with your advancement, nor is it right for you to be doomed to this sort of "robotic" existence. HPS Maxine had a family and still advanced herself, for example.

Furthermore, such blockages could actually hinder you, at certain points in your development. In that way, I believe you have to deal with this sooner or later.

It's not your fault that the enemy created such conditions that made you jaded. I have seen quite a few SS charts that have shown negative karma pertaining to love, manifesting in different ways. I don't think it is surprising that our souls get like this, after many lifetimes of trying to pick up the pieces from enemy destruction.


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Liberation from Suffering

Through the efforts of the Gods and from ourselves, we are no longer helpless. Humanity will no longer suffer from the enemy in these coming decades. Therefore, it is time for everyone to get past their karma. We are on the path of advancement.

You speak of spiritual liberation, but just as that includes freedom from financial or health problems, so does it mean freedom from emotional problems as well.

We get so badly hurt because our relational bonds are so strong. These bonds are strong because they are meant to keep the family, the race, and the soul family together. Such bonds are why the Gods worked to rescue us, and why you would run into a burning building for your loved ones as well.

Astarte's page elaborates on love and its benefits. You should not screw yourself so badly out of something you rightly deserve. Karma can make you have errant thoughts, but do your best to look past this, for the sake of your total advancement.

You're most probably right. I might need to do another emotional healing just for the sake of it.