CaspianTheDreamer said:
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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NeonBlueReal said:
The average JoS member does not contend with more danger and you dont even know what its like to be energy ripped let alone marathon cursed. Im not going to flip out on you here but what do you rhink would happen if someone trying to open there senses would experience when targetted by others that use abilities and openess provided by dmt? Especially when you blatantly dont even know these things exist and give me a "The Gods will help" reply. We are supposed to be a community and unite so that others dont gang up on us and prevail against us. Would you avenge me? Nah. Im starting to ask myself does the Jos even notice or care if I get dragged down for years and eventually offed? You dont know the "strats" here and this is not world of warcraft. People get hurt and we are asking for help. Saying we must apply the advise is not at all helpful as you simply didnt bother.
If you return curses it wont help because they group up and straight up overpower you. It is simply more than one person can handle. And after you return curses they energy rip or ing. Do you plan on returning ripping and ing? How about it? Will returning curses help anyone when they send it back again in force? No. It wont and you didnt consider it. What you gave us is essentially an automated kind of response. Its all okay no matter what because returning curses. We are asking for help because that isnt enough. When automated response isnt enpugh you seem to get incredulous but we are here for help.
Of course we care about you, and all the others who have posted these sorts of problems. You can see the large response from many members, including HPHC himself. Everyone is sympathetic here.
I am just being honest that there is not much we can realistically do. Many people are already managing their lives and have some time for warfare against the enemy, but not enough time to take on a personal battle with these other people. We also don't know the situation to any extent, and we are just hearing about all of this now.
Do you want us to just start mass cursing some random person, of which you will provide a picture or something? We were in the middle of a schedule while this was posted, and will soon have another. We cannot afford to split our energies like this.
No, asking the Gods for help is definitely not a generic reply, because situations that are out of your control are exactly where they are most helpful. If you are a dedicated member of 10 years, then you are valuable to them, and they will not let you die.
The Gods have helped people with much lesser problems, so I know that they will help you with a problem concerning major danger, especially for a 10 year veteran of the Satanic path.
I dont wanna sound like an ass or accuse ppl of being an infiltrator or a troll, but:
If they have been a veteran of Satan's path for 10 WHOLE YEARS then how are they whining so much about a supposed few deranged psycho druggie "magicians"?
This account was literally only made a few days ago.
Just like the kalikat situation: present a supposed extremely dangerous problem or situation, ignore and try to prove all the members wrong on how their advice sucks or is useless, and then flip out and leave, as if putting on a show to somehow convince other people, especially those of the without, to not bother with this place.
Im not calling names here. Just saying my thoughts on how similar this is to that kalikat fellow (who had a lot of discrepancies in what they wrote).
Also the gods would NEVER abandon a truly 10 year dedicated SS who would ever be in such a situation or just give "guidance and thats it".
Also they keep talking about all these rune variations and describe exactly what they do almost as if they know everything. Something which can also be seen in kalikats posts. Posing the "lethal" situation and then rejecting all sound advice with the further vague explanations as if they are trying to say they know everything.
If a supposed ten year veteran SS, who supposedly doesnt get direct help from the gods and only made this account a few days ago, knows what their enemies are exactly doing to curse them, then they would know what to do about it in the proper way.
That, or theres something else going on here.
I think on some level there's a small group of drug users that do possess a strength to kinda do these things. Here is the thing there ARE a handful of people and I say this relatively rare. That CAN take hallucinogenic/entheogenic/mind altering substances and actually fix or change themselves and do stuff.
I understand JoS wants sober people doing stuff i.e. without the use of mind altering substances even things like drinking red wine as some do for health reasons we look down on it.
But I think it's completely naive to believe Drugger = total crap. Sheer fact is in the beginning of the prior decade sometime circa 2011 when I was doing various research on computers, mechanical keyboards, electronics etc.etc. I did run into drug websites to study such as erowid or shroomery or whatever(although I've been aware of those websites for many years prior). I mean hell it wasn't till like 2015-2016 wiki craze when psychonauts wikia opened up and explains various hallucinogenic/entheogenic stuff.
The sheer fact is think of it like this a Drug(mind altering substance) = brute force entry into some World. For example HP.Cobra once told me in a post that I go into thought loops. I have no idea what a thought loop is even reading acidchains websites that states LSD molecules enter the brain and sometimes from time to time stay stuck for about 2-5 minutes until it's processed and in turn produces thought loops. But normal people even those who've never used drugs have been in thought loops. I still don't understand what a thought loop is nor have a clear concise explanation whether it's a sober or drugged response. Hell reading on thought loops didn't fix anything.
Funny when the internet is incredibly unhelpful. Reminds me of a recent member telling me to study more. Yeah sometimes the internet doesn't have it nor has that information.
TLDR: Drug user = brute forcer of alternative World. IF drugs are seen as religious escapism and seen as religion or religious. Then obviously some people are going to harness this for stuff like this.
Which leads to me a statement. I don't mean to demean the JoS organization. But also I can't lie and say I'm a spiritual master. Just recently Wotanwarrior relayed some issues and funny enough I clearly recall him in ProPHP before it's closer or mid 2017 when current A-forums were opened. That he spent about a solid year or two working on his astral senses.
So it comes to pass that JoS attracts lots of crazies or trolls or people who probably do something which is like whatever to us.
But seriously how does OP get to these levels. Kalikiat or whatever her/his name is said Miami wanksters did stuff to her or harass her or whatever. She goes I can't help, I can fight back but it doesn't work.
Okay then well how in the first place do you even know your under attack. Was it "It was real because it was in my mind?"
I don't know how people open themselves up or trance up to these ranges of levels or whatever. AP'ing into my house etc.etc.
I can assure you with the amount of years I've been trying to study astral projection and spending hours on the subject back in 2000/2001 time period. I can assure you if you got people who only use it for this kind of stuff rather than explore or find entities or interact with ayylmaos(aliens). You got some petty people who probably deserve to get shot on principle for being dipsticks.
It's like here is astral projection. I can do it and yet they do it for stupid shit. Or if they are drug users they do it to advance further into this realm.
I think two things:
1. JoS mentality. Drugs/Druggers/Druggy = stupid whacked out crack methy trippers or whatever is stupid. Never underestimate what a drug can do. Never underestimate what some people do who naturally, learned, or without even knowing posses a spiritual property from usage.
2. I've noticed a theme with people coming online in these two cases or in other cases. Whether these two almost xtianistic people. I can do stuff but it doesn't work. Or in cases of various people coming online and not even here but around in other spiritual communities. That they inasmuch use these tools or whatever but nothing works.
Either nothing works and what works is 2A and a gun. Which I'm not suggesting due to hitting the justice system.
But O.P. there is nothing we can do. Seriously like no idea, we already suggested stuff it works it works do it. It doesn't work, it doesn't work.
I don't know what kind of crazy shit is happening in Africa or South Africa or whatever. All I know is SHTF a long time ago with your country. So if you got some people maybe even military trained people. Who knows what kind of shit you run into now a days. There's some crazy fucks out there in today's day in age.
Sorry we can't help you. Buy some guns and some ammo learn how to defend yourself and 2A them if the situation calls for it. Again legal system but considering what is going on in South Africa with all these people training others with guns and people getting killed and shot and S.A. being turned into a communist shithole cause of coofy. From the things I seen it seems like SA already is in communism. Hell what is stopping these people from criminally harassing you.
You DID say they act like a criminal crime group only with occult things. Or perhaps they just say that to scare people. When in reality they probably are scared shitless of the population or people or whomever is against them and like Sirmixalot says "pulling out tough".
They do DMT okay cool so it seems like these people are heavy into hallunigenic substances hell I would not be surprised if they even did Salvia Divinorium or LSD-25 or ALD-52(Crystalized LSD) or other substances.
DMT is something that people have stated exposes them to weird things in outerspace. Practically 90% of it's users report having an out of body experience and blasting off into outerspace and seeing weird shit. One guy saw a giant being about 25-30 feet in size masturbating towards the Earth. Another guy entered a space vessel and one of the Humanoid looking aliens goes "Huh so you can finally see us!" which freaked him out probably EXACTLY as dreamviews astral projection journal by one member in their forums. When he met a being an extraterrestrial he had a freak out like a genetic explosion going through his system. He was FREAKED right the fuck out and funny he knew about this stuff but like he said and one other person said "Meeting entities in the astral is not like running into a stranger in the streets. This is beyond surreal feeling, it's akin to this massive burst of surging fear even if friendly it's just out of it."
Sheer fact is if people are doing drugs and getting instant results then obviously it makes sense the action-reward system entails it. Funny many new agers and many people in spirituality are entranced by certain substances. It's not unlike the device from Batman Beyond where the deaf guy gives a tuning fork device to the person to trip out without the uses of substances.
My best guess O.P. has a mental illness probably a paranoid style issue. Maybe schizo-affective type to paranoid properties.
If people are genuinely doing this then your probably more advanced than some of the newer members. If somehow they have your image or something. I'm not denying images don't act as vessels for something but it seems strange.
Why you? What is so special about you? Do you have guns, money, property? Are you some kind of big shot and they dislike that?
There's so many questions that I think it's just O.P. maybe he did drugs maybe he got involved with LSD and had those thought loops.
I don't know but O.P. we can't help you sheer fact is you could just be speaking delusionally. Maybe he looks out the window and imagines people doing stuff. Reminds me of some member living in Los Angelos and stating his entire neighborhood astral projects or knows people that do it. And people harass him or state leave me alone I'm sleeping or whatever it was the person in question said.
Sheer fact is 50 million people a year claim out of body experiences most don't bother any further. Some could be considered what I call dream projections whereby you get a strong dream and even have false awakenings. A virtual projection not an actual one in fact if you look at your bed you'll see nothing. When people truly AP they freak out and see their body on the bed sleeping.
If these people are blasting you or chutulu or whatever shit they are in it begs the question why they keep going. Seriously O.P. are you some kind of big shot? Or some kind of special entity that hinders them? Did you go around fucking around with them or telling them stuff or you said something and they wish to use you as a whipping boy to test out weapons on you?
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