Forgive or punish?

[mendez]

Please dont understand me wrong. Im not a bad person. In my childhood I was tortured in school. My childhood was destroyed because of my schoolmates and others. I still have consequences because of them. Also I have problems meditating, I have psychic illnesses. Years ago I decided to forgive them. Now im thinking something else. Im thinking for revenge. To curse them, in future. What should I do?

 

[Νίκος]

Sounds like a complete waste of time and energy if you ask me. Let go of the past and focus on healing yourself.
Mental illness is definitely a factor that can slow down your advancement, however, in the JoS there are tools you can use to fix such problems!
After you are done with the chakra opening meditations , which is the next thing you should do after mastering the basic mediations (Aura cleaning,Aura of Protection,Void mediation and Chakra spinning) you should then try to do a magical workings to heal all psychological trauma from your past.

Daily Aura affirmations would be great to start with. You can do them at morning when you wake up and/or at night before you sleep,or even after a mediation/yoga session/breathing exercise that has raised your energy. The page below gives you info about how do it

The Aura

Another example of a magical working you could do ,is to do magical working using the Wunjo rune (although this might be a bit too advanced so don't worry if you can't do it, you shall not push yourself). The link below has everything you need to learn about the runes.

The Runic Kabalah

Finally, since you are not the first one struggling with such problems,I recommend using the search function of the forums to search posts from other members that have also given great advice about how to deal with such obstacles! Of course you can always ask for help and advice if you feel the need to!

 

[FierySoul]

Sounds like a complete waste of time and energy if you ask me. Let go of the past and focus on healing yourself.

I believe you are partially wrong. Of course, one should think clearly about this, but some act of a revenge actually is a part of a healing, because it acts like a catharsis (a punishment shouldn't be too high obviously). Only after a proportional revenge, one should think about a present and not a past.

 

[Havoc]

Cursing can be therapeutic especially if you convert the emotional charge from the even into mana thus getting rid of those feelings. Send them the emotional baggage in the form of a curse and be done with it.

I would say if you do decide to put time and effort into this promise yourself that after you send the negative energy they caused to raise in you at them that you will let it go, that doesn’t mean forgiving but it does mean acknowledging that it’s over the score is settled and you will not allow yourself to think about it any longer and hold yourself to that.

 

[Henu the Great]

When you are able to enact justice in a proper manner feel free to go after it. In the meantime, it is important to heal yourself and learn.

 

[Νίκος]

I believe you are partially wrong. Of course, one should think clearly about this, but some act of a revenge actually is a part of a healing, because it acts like a catharsis (a punishment shouldn't be too high obviously). Only after a proportional revenge, one should think about a present and not a past.

You are right, by taking revenge after being severely mistreated you are actually delivering justice and healing yourself at the process.

Let me please share my thought process behind the statement I made. The person said they already have forgiven the people they are now thinking of punishing and didn't actually specified to what extent their current condition is due to what happened in the past. Furthermore they didn't specify to how many people they want to take revenge from. "My schoolmates and some other people" is a pretty generic statement that could be referring to 5 maybe 10 or even 100 people, which is more than a person can normally handle cursing, let alone a begginer with mental health issues.

Imagine how much time the person will have to devote cursing tens of individuals one by one for something that we don't know how long ago happened. Also doing black magic, especially at this state the person is currently,against so many people will only backfire making the condition of the person even worse than it already is. If it was a specific person or a couple of people then my advice would have been different.
Last but not least, the person said their "childhood was ruined because of them" ,they also didn't specified for how long the situation lasted. Was it something that happened for a year,for less than a year,for more than a year? When?In primary school? After it ? Before it? How severe was what they did and how severe does the person plan their revenge to be? "I was tortured " does not exactly help us understand the severity of the situation given the fact that some people are too emotional and get some things way more seriously than they should,and the same goes for people with mental illness which again is not specified if it is a result of the "torture" or a genetic condition like schizophrenia can be. There is also the question, how ethical would it be to punish someone,or in this case maybe tens of people, for something they did on their childhood for an unspecified amount of time without taking into consideration the fact that they might be completely different people now and ashamed of their past behaviour. The person didn't said if the bullies did actually asked for forgiveness or not, they just said they have decided to forgive them. Keep in mind the time period is also not specified in the person's statement,it could have been a decade or way more time ago that this whole thing happened.
To sum up, although I agree with your statement, given the person's current condition and the lack of details in the person's post, I felt like this was the correct advice to give but after rethinking, indeed it might not have been the best.

Once the person has healed ,and is able to think with clarity and emotional stability they should decide how they want to proceed. This is probably the best!

 

[Onbael_]

Using the protective aura given by [JG] Blizkreig you can find a safer way to establish justice. Even the rituals of the Gods can be used for this purpose in a minor way, an unjust sin against an SS is a sin against God, and so you can return it.

For the rest you will have to do healing and go further, Valefor's ritual and Astarte's ritual can help you with healing.

Also do the meditation on emptiness, the enemy will try to torment you with those memories to distract you in your meditations.

I don't think physically eliminating an enemy is a good solution, it's too risky and illegal, spiritual practices of justice will do the job well.
Then at least in my case, my enemies are literally all damned souls.

 

[Crystal Lake]

Although my opinion may sound silly, I would like to say that I think revenge is a waste of energy.

The essence of the question is whether your emotions are worth the amount of energy you expend torturing someone who is no longer useful.

In fact, you can restore your mood without expending any energy on any worthless enemy. Why waste all that energy?

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

The most important thing, and really the only thing important right now is for you to heal and fix yourself. Fix your problems, heal, and become strong and healthy.

When you are strong and healthy, then you can work on revenge if you want to.

 

[FierySoul]

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First of all, thank you for clarifying what you meant behind that message. And let me tell you my thought process when I was reading your post.

By their message I found their current state is pretty bad, because of the past, but I agree with you on this part, where we don't know how many people mistreated them (and what even exactly happened) and it could be even 100, but I thought this person should in the first place curse a person who mistreated them most, then if they would feel it is not enough, they would curse second person and so on, until they would feel it is time to stop it (and I personally think it wouldn't take that many people to feel that there was enough of revenge). And yes, handling many people or even few for a beginner can have negative effects, but doing it cautiously, for example by cleaning one's aura afterwards, they should be okay, and even if not, they would take bigger breaks between cursing next people.

When it comes what time in their life it happened at, I think it doesn't matter, because wrongdoing anytime is still wrongdoing, but definitely the longer bullying was lasting, more serious is case. And yes, being emotional can distort the perception of reality and I agree with you we don't know if it is a case or by what mental illness was caused if they have it.

If these bullys would regret what they did, it could help this person to feel a little bit better, but one may think it is not enough, because the damage was still done and they got away from it, so the revenge should be done.

To summarize, I agree with you on few points, especially when you were saying we don't have enough data and it would be the best when this person would give us details about it, so I realized stating this person should just do some cursing was too quick decision from me. The moment I was writing my previous message I just found that serious damage was done to that person, so proper revenge should take place. Also, right now I am not sure what should be done first: revenge or healing.

 

[TheWhiteGiant]

Follow your heart. If you truly believe 100% that they deserve to be punished, and that will heal you, then do it.

 

[Νίκος]

Also, right now I am not sure what should be done first: revenge or healing.

It is well known that parts of the brain of a person with psychological trauma stop functioning properly. Healing should be nunber 1 priority since a malfunctioning mind will hurt the advancement of the person,which in turn will make their magic weaker. So by focusing on healing first ,the person would be able to do black magic ,in order to get revenge, more effectively.

 

[FierySoul]

It is well known that parts of the brain of a person with psychological trauma stop functioning properly. Healing should be nunber 1 priority since a malfunctioning mind will hurt the advancement of the person,which in turn will make their magic weaker. So by focusing on healing first ,the person would be able to do black magic ,in order to get revenge, more effectively.

Yeah, sounds reasonable

 

[Engineered Trasformation]

The most important thing, and really the only thing important right now is for you to heal and fix yourself. Fix your problems, heal, and become strong and healthy.

When you are strong and healthy, then you can work on revenge if you want to.

I fully agree.
Choosing revenge or forgiveness, it's personal choice, but most important - in bot cases - is to LET GO what happened so this will not affect mind and emotions anymore, it will be a somehow cold unemotional memory.

Please dont understand me wrong. Im not a bad person. In my childhood I was tortured in school. My childhood was destroyed because of my schoolmates and others. I still have consequences because of them. Also I have problems meditating, I have psychic illnesses. Years ago I decided to forgive them. Now im thinking something else. Im thinking for revenge. To curse them, in future. What should I do?

Do not forget to detach those abusive people from your chakras, as most likely they formed links to your soul when torturing you, that function and drain you still today. This may be a root cause of the consequences and difficulties you experience now.
You will find proper meditations here and in this page.

 

[Engineered Trasformation]

Im not a bad person. In my childhood I was tortured in school.

Sorry I forgot to add.
Why should you feel as a bad person if you have been victimized? The offenders are bad, not the victim.
Most likely you have no responsibility, do not feel guilt for what they did to you - as if you are the cause of the damage inflicted to you. They are the cause! And their inferiority complex so that they wanted to put you down as probably they perceived you as superior being, so they wanted to smash you down.
So should it be your fault being a better person than the ones who wanted to torture you ? No way.
One of the first point to work on, in case of childhood physical abuses, is the reversed guilt. This is not your fault. The abusers, project guilt onto the victim, so the victim opens holes in his aura and experience problems.
I do not think that a serpent caught by an eagle, feels guilty to be "attacked". Simply the eagle was in a stronger position at the moment, but this DOES NOT make the serpent weak or guilty because it was subdued. The serpent may escape and recover and still be a strong being, with power and its own abilities in nature, also attacking and defense tactic. The serpent is not the cause of the attack brought to itself.

 

[WoadWarrior]

The choice is yours, but remember, non Satanists are petty small things, its not a question of if you should seek justice more a question of is it worthwhile? What will it gain you? I can't say but weigh the energy required for revenge compared to the energy you could use to empower yourself or bless those who were kind to you and compare the results.

I have a list of people I will get revenge against and frankly they didn't even do much, but they seriously pissed me off but I am going to wait until crushing them is as easy as crushing a bug, no point wasting my energy and time before that point, I am patient and I want it over and done with when I start im not interested in dragging it out, I suggest the same unless the grievances are serious.