Valontuoja
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This writing is a basic introduction to Finnish religion and mythology and how it ties into other ancient religions. This could be especially of interest to related groups such as Estonians and the Finnic peoples of Russia. Also this serves as a general topic for discussions about Finnish culture, mythology and history.
Finnish people are one of the only non-Indo European Whites. It belongs to the Finno-Ugric (Uralic) language group. Many Finnic peoples remained pagan for a long time, some are still today practicing their ancient religion like the Mari people living in Russia. Finland got conquered by catholic Sweden in the medieval times, Karelia has mostly been part of orthodox Russia. Some remains of the ancient religion remained to the 19th century despite the church trying to get rid of it. Here is an article about one Finnic people that is still pagan:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/in-sight/wp/2016/02/11/the-forgotten-mari-pagans-of-the-volga/?utm_term=.877705cf9aff
Finns had their own word for vril, witch-power. Väki (nowadays meaning is "people") meant energy (different places have their own väki), power and especially magickal power. A powerful mage who had lots of energy was called väkevä.
Kalevala, Finnish national epic, is based around old poems and myths. It is known that when the poems were collected there existed different versions. Elias Lönnrot who wrote Kalevala in the 19th century around the poems he had collected did censor and leave out parts, especially ones, that were against xian sexual morals. Majority of the original magickal songs are available in Suomen kansan vanhat runot ("the ancient poems of the Finnish people") a huge 34-part work. It doesn't include closely related Estonian poems. Link to SKVR in the end of this writing. Note: Finnish word Runo (poem) comes from Proto-Germanic rūnō and is related to English rune. The Finnic poem singing obviously relates to vibration.
The Finnish magic from the text differs from Scandinavian ones as the magic in Scandinavian traditions wasn't as tied to poem singing as in Finnic mythology. The powerful words of Finnish mage were called "luotteet" (possibly from word luottaa meaning "trust" as the knowledge was passed on from a master or relative). In Kalevala poems if a luote was missing the mage had to visit place of the death or some other mage to get to know the powerful word. It is interesting to note Scandinavian myths descripe practitioners of seiðr (magic) usually as Sámi or Finns. In Scandinavia Finland was known as land of the giants (Jotland). Rune Thurisaz is closely related to Finnish entity or god of war Turisas/Tursas (Iku-Turso), the rune means giant in Norse mythology. Norse mythology mentions giants that rules over Finland for example Fornjót, the king of Gotland, Kvenland and Finland.
Kalevala tells mostly about two places Pohjola ("the North") ruled by an evil witch called Louhi. She has several daughters (Pohjolan tyttäret) who many want to marry in the epic. In order to get married to her daughters one has to survive a hard journey to Pohjola and there he has to survive from impossible sounding guests. Another important location is Väinölä, homeland of legendary smith Seppo Ilmarinen and great mage Väinämöinen. This seems like an allegory of the union of lower male chakras with the upper chakras.
Heinrich Himmler, a great friend of Finnish people, send the Ahnenerbe to do research expedition in Karelia. The expedition was led by a Finnish nobleman Yrjö von Grönhagen, along with him traveled German musicologist Fritz Bose who came to record pagan chants. They managed to find a poem singer Timo Lipitsä whose picture, taken by von Grönhagen, ended up decorating the wall of Himmler's workroom. The research group also recorded a Kantele player Hannes Vornanen and a witch Miron-Aku. Himmler ordered 10 traditional kantele instruments from Finland in order to make copies for SS-men. Himmler visited Finland three times during the war against our common enemy.
"Where a Finnish SS-man stood, the enemy was always defeated."
- Heinrich Himmler
Sources, more reading and resources:
The following material is mostly in Finnish as it is quite difficult to find English resources when I have read the materials in Finnish. Also here is lots of lies in the sources especially about "muh holocaust".
(Finnish translation of) Heather Pringle's The Masterplan: Himmler's Scholars and the Holocaust
(Himmlerin suuri suunnitelma arjalaisen herrakansan etsintä)
Suomen kansan vanhat runot:
https://skvr.fi/
Estonian runic song database:
http://www.folklore.ee/regilaul/andmebaas
Suomen kansan muinaisia loitsurunoja:
https://archive.org/details/suomenkansanmui00lngoog
Wikipedia pages of interest:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Norse_religion#Mysticism,_magic_and_shamanism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurisaz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fornj%C3%B3t
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luotes
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A4ki_(mytologia)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorary_Aryan#Finns
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A4ym%C3%A4j%C3%A4rvi_inscriptions
(Finnish news stories)
SS-groups got kantele instruments from Finland (article in Finnish):
https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000000707916.html
This article contains lots of bullshit but is interesting to read about Himmler's visites to Finland:
https://www.aamulehti.fi/ihmiset/pahamaineinen-natsijohtaja-lomaili-salaa-ihannoimassaan-suomessa-yksityiskokoelmasta-loytyi-harvinaisia-kuvia-heinrich-himmlerista-200288419/
Finnish people are one of the only non-Indo European Whites. It belongs to the Finno-Ugric (Uralic) language group. Many Finnic peoples remained pagan for a long time, some are still today practicing their ancient religion like the Mari people living in Russia. Finland got conquered by catholic Sweden in the medieval times, Karelia has mostly been part of orthodox Russia. Some remains of the ancient religion remained to the 19th century despite the church trying to get rid of it. Here is an article about one Finnic people that is still pagan:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/in-sight/wp/2016/02/11/the-forgotten-mari-pagans-of-the-volga/?utm_term=.877705cf9aff
Finns had their own word for vril, witch-power. Väki (nowadays meaning is "people") meant energy (different places have their own väki), power and especially magickal power. A powerful mage who had lots of energy was called väkevä.
Kalevala, Finnish national epic, is based around old poems and myths. It is known that when the poems were collected there existed different versions. Elias Lönnrot who wrote Kalevala in the 19th century around the poems he had collected did censor and leave out parts, especially ones, that were against xian sexual morals. Majority of the original magickal songs are available in Suomen kansan vanhat runot ("the ancient poems of the Finnish people") a huge 34-part work. It doesn't include closely related Estonian poems. Link to SKVR in the end of this writing. Note: Finnish word Runo (poem) comes from Proto-Germanic rūnō and is related to English rune. The Finnic poem singing obviously relates to vibration.
The Finnish magic from the text differs from Scandinavian ones as the magic in Scandinavian traditions wasn't as tied to poem singing as in Finnic mythology. The powerful words of Finnish mage were called "luotteet" (possibly from word luottaa meaning "trust" as the knowledge was passed on from a master or relative). In Kalevala poems if a luote was missing the mage had to visit place of the death or some other mage to get to know the powerful word. It is interesting to note Scandinavian myths descripe practitioners of seiðr (magic) usually as Sámi or Finns. In Scandinavia Finland was known as land of the giants (Jotland). Rune Thurisaz is closely related to Finnish entity or god of war Turisas/Tursas (Iku-Turso), the rune means giant in Norse mythology. Norse mythology mentions giants that rules over Finland for example Fornjót, the king of Gotland, Kvenland and Finland.
Kalevala tells mostly about two places Pohjola ("the North") ruled by an evil witch called Louhi. She has several daughters (Pohjolan tyttäret) who many want to marry in the epic. In order to get married to her daughters one has to survive a hard journey to Pohjola and there he has to survive from impossible sounding guests. Another important location is Väinölä, homeland of legendary smith Seppo Ilmarinen and great mage Väinämöinen. This seems like an allegory of the union of lower male chakras with the upper chakras.
Heinrich Himmler, a great friend of Finnish people, send the Ahnenerbe to do research expedition in Karelia. The expedition was led by a Finnish nobleman Yrjö von Grönhagen, along with him traveled German musicologist Fritz Bose who came to record pagan chants. They managed to find a poem singer Timo Lipitsä whose picture, taken by von Grönhagen, ended up decorating the wall of Himmler's workroom. The research group also recorded a Kantele player Hannes Vornanen and a witch Miron-Aku. Himmler ordered 10 traditional kantele instruments from Finland in order to make copies for SS-men. Himmler visited Finland three times during the war against our common enemy.
"Where a Finnish SS-man stood, the enemy was always defeated."
- Heinrich Himmler
Sources, more reading and resources:
The following material is mostly in Finnish as it is quite difficult to find English resources when I have read the materials in Finnish. Also here is lots of lies in the sources especially about "muh holocaust".
(Finnish translation of) Heather Pringle's The Masterplan: Himmler's Scholars and the Holocaust
(Himmlerin suuri suunnitelma arjalaisen herrakansan etsintä)
Suomen kansan vanhat runot:
https://skvr.fi/
Estonian runic song database:
http://www.folklore.ee/regilaul/andmebaas
Suomen kansan muinaisia loitsurunoja:
https://archive.org/details/suomenkansanmui00lngoog
Wikipedia pages of interest:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Norse_religion#Mysticism,_magic_and_shamanism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurisaz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fornj%C3%B3t
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luotes
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A4ki_(mytologia)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorary_Aryan#Finns
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A4ym%C3%A4j%C3%A4rvi_inscriptions
(Finnish news stories)
SS-groups got kantele instruments from Finland (article in Finnish):
https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000000707916.html
This article contains lots of bullshit but is interesting to read about Himmler's visites to Finland:
https://www.aamulehti.fi/ihmiset/pahamaineinen-natsijohtaja-lomaili-salaa-ihannoimassaan-suomessa-yksityiskokoelmasta-loytyi-harvinaisia-kuvia-heinrich-himmlerista-200288419/