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The long list of people who have ruined their health or literally died from new aged vegan/vegetarian diets is long. Its to the point most of the ideological vegans are only vegan several days a week in private. But seven days a week in public. And the list of jews pushing this is long.



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Steve Jobs died October 5, and the animal rights organization PETA stepped right up to honor him as a vegetarian who was deeply committed to animal welfare and the environment. PETA, of course, has yet to acknowledge the role that Jobs's near vegan diet may have played in his death, and continues to maintain that their particular brand of "right eating" will virtually guarantee freedom from cancer and other major health problems.

When I blogged about this topic in October, I promised I would follow up once I learned more about Jobs's dietary habits from Walter Isaacson's biography Steve Jobs (Simon & Schuster, 2011). This column delivers on that promise.

The bullet points below include every reference to diet in the entire book, followed by page numbers. My brief comments are found at the very end.

•Jobs came to appreciate organic fruits and vegetables as a teenager when a neighbor taught him how to be a good organic gardener and to compost. (14)
•Between his sophomore and junior hear of high school, he began smoking marijuana regularly and by his senior year was dabbling in LSD as well as exploring the mind bending effect of sleep deprivation (18-19)
•Toward the end of his senior year in high school, he began his "lifelong experiments with compulsive diets, eating only fruits and vegetables so he was as lean and tight as a whippet" (31)
•He attended the love festivals at the local Hare Krishna temple, and went to the Zen center for free vegetarian meals. (35)
•He was greatly influenced by the book Diet for a Small Planet by Frances Moore Lappe. At that point he swore off meat for good and began embracing extreme diets, which included purges, fasts or eating only one or two foods , such as carrots or apples for weeks on end. (36)
•For awhile at college, Jobs lived on Roman Meal cereal. He would buy a box, which would last a week, then flats of dates, almonds and a lot of carrots. He made carrot juice with a Champion juicer, and at one point turned "a sunset-like orange hue." (36)
•His dietary habits became more obsessive when he read the Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret. Jobs then favored eating nothing but fruits and starchless vegetables, which he said prevented the body from forming harmful mucus, and determined to regularly cleanse his body through prolonged fasts. That meant no more Roman Meal cereal — or any bread, grains, or milk for that matter. At one point, he spent an entire week eating only apples, and then began to try even purer fasts. He started with two day fasts and eventually stretched them out to a week or more, breaking them with large amounts of water and leafy vegetables. "After a week, you start to feel fantastic," he said. "You get a ton of vitality from not having to digest all this food. I was in great shape I felt I could get up and walk to San Francisco anytime I wanted." (36)
•As a $5 an hour technician at Atari, he was known as "a hippie with b.o." and "impossible to deal with." He clung to the belief that his fruit-heavy vegetarian diet would prevent not just mucus but also body odor. As Isaacson writes "It was a flawed theory." (43)
•"He was doing a lot of soul-searching about being adopted . . . (with) the primal scream and the mucusless diets, he was trying to cleanse himself and get deeper into his frustration about his birth." (51)
•He was a fan of the Whole Earth Catalog and particularly taken by the final issue, which came out in 1971 when he was still in high school. On the back cover it said "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." (59)
•The name Apple Computers came to him when he was on one of his fruitarian diets. "I had just come back from the apple farm. It sounded fun, spirited and not intimidating. Apple took the edge off the word `computer.'" (63)
•His mother Clara Jobs didn't mind losing most of her house to piles of computer parts and house guests, but she was frustrated by her son's increasingly quirky diets. She would roll her eyes at his latest eating obsessions. She just wanted him to be healthy, and he would be making weird pronouncements like, "I'm a fruitarian and I will only eat leaves picked by virgins in the moonlight." (68)
•He was still convinced against all evidence that his vegan diet meant that he didn't need to use a deodorant or take regular showers. . . . At meetings people had to look at his dirty feet. Sometimes to relieve stress, he would soak his feet in the toilet. (82)
•A colleague who recommended he bathe more often was told that "in exchange" he would have to read fruitarian diet books. "Steve was adamant that he bathed once a week, and that was adequate as long as he was eating a fruitarian diet." (82-83)
•In 1979 or so he "put aside drugs, eased away from being a strict vegan, and cut back the time he spent on Zen retreats." (91)
•He decreed that the sodas in the office refrigerator be replaced by Odwalla organic orange and carrot juices." (118)
•The kitchen was stocked daily with Odwalla juices (142)
•At the launch of the Lisa computer in 1983, he ate a special vegan meal at the Four Seasons restaurant (152)
•He had edged away from his strict vegan diet for the time being and ate vegetarian omelets. (155)
•In 1984 in Italy, Jobs demanded a vegan meal and became extremely angry when the waiter very elaborately proceeded to dish out a sauce filled with sour cream. (185)
•The meal for his 30th birthday celebration included goat cheese and salmon mousse. (189)
•He had a lot of mannerisms. He bit his nails. His hands were "slightly and inexplicably yellow" and in constant motion. (223)
•At a meal with Mitch Kapor, the chairman of Lotus software, Jobs was horrified to see Kapor slathering butter on his bread, and asked, "Have you ever heard of serum cholesterol?" Kapor responded, "I'll make you a deal. You stay away from commenting on my dietary habits, and I will stay away from the subject of your personality." (224)
•At a 1988 NeXT product launch, the lunch menu included mineral water, croissants, cream cheese, bean sprouts. (233)
•Jobs was a vegetarian and so was Chrisann, the mother of his daughter Lisa. Lisa was not vegetarian, but Jobs was fine with that. "Eating chicken became her little indulgence as she shuttled between two parents who were vegetarians with a spiritual regard for natural foods." Jobs's "dietary fixations came in fanatic waves," and he was "fastidious" about what he ate. Lisa watched him "spit out a mouthful of soup one day after learning that it contained butter." (259-260)
•"Even at a young age Lisa began to realize his diet obsessions reflected a life philosophy, one in which asceticism and minimalism could heighten subsequent sensations. He believed that great harvests came from arid sources, pleasure from restraint. He knew the equations that most people didn't know: Things led to their opposites." (259-260)
•Once he took Lisa on a business trip to Tokyo and they stayed at the Okura Hotel. At the elegant downstairs sushi bar, Jobs ordered large trays of unagi sushi, a dish he loved so much that he allowed the warm cooked eel to pass muster as vegetarian. Lisa later wrote, "It was the first time, I'd felt with him, so relaxed and content, over those trays of meat; the excess, the permission and warmth after the cold salads, meant a once inaccessible space had opened. He was less rigid with himself, even human under the great ceilings with the little chairs with the meat and me." (260-261)
•Jobs had hired a hip young couple who had once worked at Chez Panisse as housekeepers ands vegetarian cooks (264)
•At his wedding to Laurene Powell, the cake was in the shape of Yosemite's Half Dome. It was strictly vegan and more than a few of the guest found it inedible. (274)
•"Since his early teens, he had indulged his weird obsession with extremely restrictive diets and fasts. Even after he married and had children, he retained his dubious eating habits. He would spend weeks eating the same thing — carrot salad with lemon, or just apples — and then suddenly spurn that food and declare that he had stopped eating it. He would go on fasts, just as he did as a teenager and he became sanctimonious as he lectured others at the table on the virtues of whatever eating regimen he was following." (477)
•Jobs's wife, Laurene Powell, had been a vegan when they first married, but after her husband's first cancer operation, the partial Whipple procedure, she began to diversify the family meals with fish and other proteins. Their son, Reed, who had been a vegetarian, became a "hearty omnivore." They knew it was important for Steve to get diverse sources of protein. (477)
•Early in 2008, Jobs's eating disorders got worse. On some nights he would stare at the floor and ignore all of the dishes set out on the long kitchen table. He lost 40 pounds during the spring of 2008.
•Dr James Eason "would even stop at the convenience store to get the energy drinks Jobs liked." (485)
•He remained a finicky eater, which was more of a problem than ever. He would eat only fruit smoothies and he would demand that seven or eight of them be lined up so he could find an option that might satisfy him. He would touch the spoon to his mouth for a tiny taste and pronounce `That's no good. That one's no good either.'" His doctor lectured him: "You know this isn't a matter of taste. Stop thinking of this as food. Start thinking of it as medicine." (486)
•Early in 2010, Jobs went to dinner and ordered a mango smoothie and plain vegan pasta. (505)
•At the launch of the iPad2, Isaacson reported "For a change he was eating, though still with some pickiness. He ordered fresh squeezed juice, which he sent back three times, declaring that each new offering was from a bottle, and a pasta primavera which he shoved away as inedible after one taste. But then he ate half of my crab Louise salad and ordered a full one for himself followed by a bowl of ice cream." (527)
•"Jobs's eating problems were exacerbated over the years by his psychological attitude toward food. When he was young, he learned that he could induce euphoria and ecstasy by fasting. So even though he knew that he should eat — his doctors were begging him to consume high-quality protein –lingering in the back of his subconscious, he admitted was his instinct for fasting and for diets like Arnold Ehret's fruit regimen that he had embraced as a teenager. Powell kept telling him it was crazy. `I wanted him to force himself to eat,' she said `and it was incredibly tense at home.'" (548-549)
•Bryar Brown, their part-time cook, would prepare an array of healthy dishes, but Jobs would touch his tongue to one or two dishes and then dismiss them all as inedible. One evening he announced, "I could probably eat a little pumpkin pie," and the even-tempered Brown created a beautiful pie from scratch in an hour. Jobs ate only one bite, but Brown was thrilled." (549)
•During the final years of his life, Powell talked to eating disorder specialists and psychiatrists to try to get help, but her husband shunned them. (549)
That's it. Not a lot to work with, but more than enough to show a longstanding pattern of eating disorders.

On the plus side, Jobs's diet seems to have been consistently organic and high quality. He employed chefs who'd worked at Chef Panisse, and his wife Laurene Powell founded Terravera, a company that produces ready-to-eat organic meals for stores in northern California. Jobs does not appear to have ever been a junk-food vegan who indulged in all-American junk foods such as soda, chocolate, cookies and crackers.

Soy is not mentioned at all in Isaacson's biography. Although the Apple culture was soy friendly with soy milk readily available in vending machines and at coffee stations, Jobs himself may well have rejected it. Jobs had a longstanding fascination with the book The Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret (1866-1922), who claimed the human body is an "air-gas engine" that runs well only on fruits, starchless vegetables and edible green leaves. Soy and other legumes, according to Ehret's way of thinking, were to be disdained as mucus-producing forbidden foods. Ehret not only condemned protein and fat as "unnatural" but said they could not be used by the body. Inspired by such theories, Jobs appears to have eaten a diet low in both fat and protein for most of his life. And what did he eat instead? Carbs high in fructose.

Whether or not Jobs was in one of his fanatic fruitarian phases, he favored a lot of fruit and fruit juice. These are not only high on the glycemic index, but loaded with fructose. Fruits and fruit juices greatly stress the liver and pancreas, contribute to diabetes and many other blood sugar disorders, and have been linked to pancreatic cancer. Jobs suffered from a type of pancreatic cancer known as islet cell carcinoma, which originates in the insulin-secreting beta cells.

Research published in the November 2007 issue of American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was "evidence for a greater pancreatic cancer risk with a high intake of fruit and juices but not with a high intake of sodas." More recently, in the August 2010 issue of Cancer Research, Dr. Anthony Healy of UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center proposed that aberrant fructose metabolism — and not just aberrant glucose metabolism — might be involved in the pathogenesis of pancreatic cancer. Seems fructose provides the raw material cancer cells prefer to use to make the DNA they need to divide and proliferate. Although the UCLA findings are preliminary and more research needs to be done, the Reuters headline "Cancer Cells Slurp Up Fructose" is fair warning to all of us addicted to fruit and fruit juices, organic or otherwise.

Clearly Jobs broke away from strict veganism from time to time to indulge in a few eggs, salmon and unagi sushi. The words of his daughter Lisa (quoted above) provide a moving testimony to how well Jobs's body and mind responded to eating eel, a fish rich in protein and fat. That said, vegans who would like to think Jobs became sick because he failed to be "perfect vegan" now have evidence to support that belief.
 
I think of vegetarians as the sexists of food. I love meat, its the point of water meal I'm eating. or sometimes eggs are. but usually meat. matter of fact, I'm about to say hello to the ham in the fridge.
 

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Subject: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  The long list of people who have ruined their health or literally died from new aged vegan/vegetarian diets is long. Its to the point most of the ideological vegans are only vegan several days a week in private. But seven days a week in public. And the list of jews pushing this is long.

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http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/kdani ... teve-jobs/

Steve Jobs died October 5, and the animal rights organization PETA stepped right up to honor him as a vegetarian who was deeply committed to animal welfare and the environment. PETA, of course, has yet to acknowledge the role that Jobs's near vegan diet may have played in his death, and continues to maintain that their particular brand of "right eating" will virtually guarantee freedom from cancer and other major health problems.

When I blogged about this topic in October, I promised I would follow up once I learned more about Jobs's dietary habits from Walter Isaacson's biography Steve Jobs (Simon & Schuster, 2011). This column delivers on that promise.

The bullet points below include every reference to diet in the entire book, followed by page numbers. My brief comments are found at the very end.

•Jobs came to appreciate organic fruits and vegetables as a teenager when a neighbor taught him how to be a good organic gardener and to compost. (14)
•Between his sophomore and junior hear of high school, he began smoking marijuana regularly and by his senior year was dabbling in LSD as well as exploring the mind bending effect of sleep deprivation (18-19)
•Toward the end of his senior year in high school, he began his "lifelong experiments with compulsive diets, eating only fruits and vegetables so he was as lean and tight as a whippet" (31)
•He attended the love festivals at the local Hare Krishna temple, and went to the Zen center for free vegetarian meals. (35)
•He was greatly influenced by the book Diet for a Small Planet by Frances Moore Lappe. At that point he swore off meat for good and began embracing extreme diets, which included purges, fasts or eating only one or two foods , such as carrots or apples for weeks on end. (36)
•For awhile at college, Jobs lived on Roman Meal cereal. He would buy a box, which would last a week, then flats of dates, almonds and a lot of carrots. He made carrot juice with a Champion juicer, and at one point turned "a sunset-like orange hue." (36)
•His dietary habits became more obsessive when he read the Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret. Jobs then favored eating nothing but fruits and starchless vegetables, which he said prevented the body from forming harmful mucus, and determined to regularly cleanse his body through prolonged fasts. That meant no more Roman Meal cereal — or any bread, grains, or milk for that matter. At one point, he spent an entire week eating only apples, and then began to try even purer fasts. He started with two day fasts and eventually stretched them out to a week or more, breaking them with large amounts of water and leafy vegetables. "After a week, you start to feel fantastic," he said. "You get a ton of vitality from not having to digest all this food. I was in great shape I felt I could get up and walk to San Francisco anytime I wanted." (36)
•As a $5 an hour technician at Atari, he was known as "a hippie with b.o." and "impossible to deal with." He clung to the belief that his fruit-heavy vegetarian diet would prevent not just mucus but also body odor. As Isaacson writes "It was a flawed theory." (43)
•"He was doing a lot of soul-searching about being adopted . . . (with) the primal scream and the mucusless diets, he was trying to cleanse himself and get deeper into his frustration about his birth." (51)
•He was a fan of the Whole Earth Catalog and particularly taken by the final issue, which came out in 1971 when he was still in high school. On the back cover it said "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." (59)
•The name Apple Computers came to him when he was on one of his fruitarian diets. "I had just come back from the apple farm. It sounded fun, spirited and not intimidating. Apple took the edge off the word `computer.'" (63)
•His mother Clara Jobs didn't mind losing most of her house to piles of computer parts and house guests, but she was frustrated by her son's increasingly quirky diets. She would roll her eyes at his latest eating obsessions. She just wanted him to be healthy, and he would be making weird pronouncements like, "I'm a fruitarian and I will only eat leaves picked by virgins in the moonlight." (68)
•He was still convinced against all evidence that his vegan diet meant that he didn't need to use a deodorant or take regular showers. . . . At meetings people had to look at his dirty feet. Sometimes to relieve stress, he would soak his feet in the toilet. (82)
•A colleague who recommended he bathe more often was told that "in exchange" he would have to read fruitarian diet books. "Steve was adamant that he bathed once a week, and that was adequate as long as he was eating a fruitarian diet." (82-83)
•In 1979 or so he "put aside drugs, eased away from being a strict vegan, and cut back the time he spent on Zen retreats." (91)
•He decreed that the sodas in the office refrigerator be replaced by Odwalla organic orange and carrot juices." (118)
•The kitchen was stocked daily with Odwalla juices (142)
•At the launch of the Lisa computer in 1983, he ate a special vegan meal at the Four Seasons restaurant (152)
•He had edged away from his strict vegan diet for the time being and ate vegetarian omelets. (155)
•In 1984 in Italy, Jobs demanded a vegan meal and became extremely angry when the waiter very elaborately proceeded to dish out a sauce filled with sour cream. (185)
•The meal for his 30th birthday celebration included goat cheese and salmon mousse. (189)
•He had a lot of mannerisms. He bit his nails. His hands were "slightly and inexplicably yellow" and in constant motion. (223)
•At a meal with Mitch Kapor, the chairman of Lotus software, Jobs was horrified to see Kapor slathering butter on his bread, and asked, "Have you ever heard of serum cholesterol?" Kapor responded, "I'll make you a deal. You stay away from commenting on my dietary habits, and I will stay away from the subject of your personality." (224)
•At a 1988 NeXT product launch, the lunch menu included mineral water, croissants, cream cheese, bean sprouts. (233)
•Jobs was a vegetarian and so was Chrisann, the mother of his daughter Lisa. Lisa was not vegetarian, but Jobs was fine with that. "Eating chicken became her little indulgence as she shuttled between two parents who were vegetarians with a spiritual regard for natural foods." Jobs's "dietary fixations came in fanatic waves," and he was "fastidious" about what he ate. Lisa watched him "spit out a mouthful of soup one day after learning that it contained butter." (259-260)
•"Even at a young age Lisa began to realize his diet obsessions reflected a life philosophy, one in which asceticism and minimalism could heighten subsequent sensations. He believed that great harvests came from arid sources, pleasure from restraint. He knew the equations that most people didn't know: Things led to their opposites." (259-260)
•Once he took Lisa on a business trip to Tokyo and they stayed at the Okura Hotel. At the elegant downstairs sushi bar, Jobs ordered large trays of unagi sushi, a dish he loved so much that he allowed the warm cooked eel to pass muster as vegetarian. Lisa later wrote, "It was the first time, I'd felt with him, so relaxed and content, over those trays of meat; the excess, the permission and warmth after the cold salads, meant a once inaccessible space had opened. He was less rigid with himself, even human under the great ceilings with the little chairs with the meat and me." (260-261)
•Jobs had hired a hip young couple who had once worked at Chez Panisse as housekeepers ands vegetarian cooks (264)
•At his wedding to Laurene Powell, the cake was in the shape of Yosemite's Half Dome. It was strictly vegan and more than a few of the guest found it inedible. (274)
•"Since his early teens, he had indulged his weird obsession with extremely restrictive diets and fasts. Even after he married and had children, he retained his dubious eating habits. He would spend weeks eating the same thing — carrot salad with lemon, or just apples — and then suddenly spurn that food and declare that he had stopped eating it. He would go on fasts, just as he did as a teenager and he became sanctimonious as he lectured others at the table on the virtues of whatever eating regimen he was following." (477)
•Jobs's wife, Laurene Powell, had been a vegan when they first married, but after her husband's first cancer operation, the partial Whipple procedure, she began to diversify the family meals with fish and other proteins. Their son, Reed, who had been a vegetarian, became a "hearty omnivore." They knew it was important for Steve to get diverse sources of protein. (477)
•Early in 2008, Jobs's eating disorders got worse. On some nights he would stare at the floor and ignore all of the dishes set out on the long kitchen table. He lost 40 pounds during the spring of 2008.
•Dr James Eason "would even stop at the convenience store to get the energy drinks Jobs liked." (485)
•He remained a finicky eater, which was more of a problem than ever. He would eat only fruit smoothies and he would demand that seven or eight of them be lined up so he could find an option that might satisfy him. He would touch the spoon to his mouth for a tiny taste and pronounce `That's no good. That one's no good either.'" His doctor lectured him: "You know this isn't a matter of taste. Stop thinking of this as food. Start thinking of it as medicine." (486)
•Early in 2010, Jobs went to dinner and ordered a mango smoothie and plain vegan pasta. (505)
•At the launch of the iPad2, Isaacson reported "For a change he was eating, though still with some pickiness. He ordered fresh squeezed juice, which he sent back three times, declaring that each new offering was from a bottle, and a pasta primavera which he shoved away as inedible after one taste. But then he ate half of my crab Louise salad and ordered a full one for himself followed by a bowl of ice cream." (527)
•"Jobs's eating problems were exacerbated over the years by his psychological attitude toward food. When he was young, he learned that he could induce euphoria and ecstasy by fasting. So even though he knew that he should eat — his doctors were begging him to consume high-quality protein –lingering in the back of his subconscious, he admitted was his instinct for fasting and for diets like Arnold Ehret's fruit regimen that he had embraced as a teenager. Powell kept telling him it was crazy. `I wanted him to force himself to eat,' she said `and it was incredibly tense at home.'" (548-549)
•Bryar Brown, their part-time cook, would prepare an array of healthy dishes, but Jobs would touch his tongue to one or two dishes and then dismiss them all as inedible. One evening he announced, "I could probably eat a little pumpkin pie," and the even-tempered Brown created a beautiful pie from scratch in an hour. Jobs ate only one bite, but Brown was thrilled." (549)
•During the final years of his life, Powell talked to eating disorder specialists and psychiatrists to try to get help, but her husband shunned them. (549)
That's it. Not a lot to work with, but more than enough to show a longstanding pattern of eating disorders.

On the plus side, Jobs's diet seems to have been consistently organic and high quality. He employed chefs who'd worked at Chef Panisse, and his wife Laurene Powell founded Terravera, a company that produces ready-to-eat organic meals for stores in northern California. Jobs does not appear to have ever been a junk-food vegan who indulged in all-American junk foods such as soda, chocolate, cookies and crackers.

Soy is not mentioned at all in Isaacson's biography. Although the Apple culture was soy friendly with soy milk readily available in vending machines and at coffee stations, Jobs himself may well have rejected it. Jobs had a longstanding fascination with the book The Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret (1866-1922), who claimed the human body is an "air-gas engine" that runs well only on fruits, starchless vegetables and edible green leaves. Soy and other legumes, according to Ehret's way of thinking, were to be disdained as mucus-producing forbidden foods. Ehret not only condemned protein and fat as "unnatural" but said they could not be used by the body. Inspired by such theories, Jobs appears to have eaten a diet low in both fat and protein for most of his life. And what did he eat instead? Carbs high in fructose.

Whether or not Jobs was in one of his fanatic fruitarian phases, he favored a lot of fruit and fruit juice. These are not only high on the glycemic index, but loaded with fructose. Fruits and fruit juices greatly stress the liver and pancreas, contribute to diabetes and many other blood sugar disorders, and have been linked to pancreatic cancer. Jobs suffered from a type of pancreatic cancer known as islet cell carcinoma, which originates in the insulin-secreting beta cells.

Research published in the November 2007 issue of American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was "evidence for a greater pancreatic cancer risk with a high intake of fruit and juices but not with a high intake of sodas." More recently, in the August 2010 issue of Cancer Research, Dr. Anthony Healy of UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center proposed that aberrant fructose metabolism — and not just aberrant glucose metabolism — might be involved in the pathogenesis of pancreatic cancer. Seems fructose provides the raw material cancer cells prefer to use to make the DNA they need to divide and proliferate. Although the UCLA findings are preliminary and more research needs to be done, the Reuters headline "Cancer Cells Slurp Up Fructose" is fair warning to all of us addicted to fruit and fruit juices, organic or otherwise.

Clearly Jobs broke away from strict veganism from time to time to indulge in a few eggs, salmon and unagi sushi. The words of his daughter Lisa (quoted above) provide a moving testimony to how well Jobs's body and mind responded to eating eel, a fish rich in protein and fat. That said, vegans who would like to think Jobs became sick because he failed to be "perfect vegan" now have evidence to support that belief.


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From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
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Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  I think of vegetarians as the sexists of food. I love meat, its the point of water meal I'm eating. or sometimes eggs are. but usually meat. matter of fact, I'm about to say hello to the ham in the fridge.
 
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From: mageson6666@...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 00:56:47 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  The long list of people who have ruined their health or literally died from new aged vegan/vegetarian diets is long. Its to the point most of the ideological vegans are only vegan several days a week in private. But seven days a week in public. And the list of jews pushing this is long.

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http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/kdani ... teve-jobs/

Steve Jobs died October 5, and the animal rights organization PETA stepped right up to honor him as a vegetarian who was deeply committed to animal welfare and the environment. PETA, of course, has yet to acknowledge the role that Jobs's near vegan diet may have played in his death, and continues to maintain that their particular brand of "right eating" will virtually guarantee freedom from cancer and other major health problems.

When I blogged about this topic in October, I promised I would follow up once I learned more about Jobs's dietary habits from Walter Isaacson's biography Steve Jobs (Simon & Schuster, 2011). This column delivers on that promise.

The bullet points below include every reference to diet in the entire book, followed by page numbers. My brief comments are found at the very end.

•Jobs came to appreciate organic fruits and vegetables as a teenager when a neighbor taught him how to be a good organic gardener and to compost. (14)
•Between his sophomore and junior hear of high school, he began smoking marijuana regularly and by his senior year was dabbling in LSD as well as exploring the mind bending effect of sleep deprivation (18-19)
•Toward the end of his senior year in high school, he began his "lifelong experiments with compulsive diets, eating only fruits and vegetables so he was as lean and tight as a whippet" (31)
•He attended the love festivals at the local Hare Krishna temple, and went to the Zen center for free vegetarian meals. (35)
•He was greatly influenced by the book Diet for a Small Planet by Frances Moore Lappe. At that point he swore off meat for good and began embracing extreme diets, which included purges, fasts or eating only one or two foods , such as carrots or apples for weeks on end. (36)
•For awhile at college, Jobs lived on Roman Meal cereal. He would buy a box, which would last a week, then flats of dates, almonds and a lot of carrots. He made carrot juice with a Champion juicer, and at one point turned "a sunset-like orange hue." (36)
•His dietary habits became more obsessive when he read the Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret. Jobs then favored eating nothing but fruits and starchless vegetables, which he said prevented the body from forming harmful mucus, and determined to regularly cleanse his body through prolonged fasts. That meant no more Roman Meal cereal — or any bread, grains, or milk for that matter. At one point, he spent an entire week eating only apples, and then began to try even purer fasts. He started with two day fasts and eventually stretched them out to a week or more, breaking them with large amounts of water and leafy vegetables. "After a week, you start to feel fantastic," he said. "You get a ton of vitality from not having to digest all this food. I was in great shape I felt I could get up and walk to San Francisco anytime I wanted." (36)
•As a $5 an hour technician at Atari, he was known as "a hippie with b.o." and "impossible to deal with." He clung to the belief that his fruit-heavy vegetarian diet would prevent not just mucus but also body odor. As Isaacson writes "It was a flawed theory." (43)
•"He was doing a lot of soul-searching about being adopted . . . (with) the primal scream and the mucusless diets, he was trying to cleanse himself and get deeper into his frustration about his birth." (51)
•He was a fan of the Whole Earth Catalog and particularly taken by the final issue, which came out in 1971 when he was still in high school. On the back cover it said "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." (59)
•The name Apple Computers came to him when he was on one of his fruitarian diets. "I had just come back from the apple farm. It sounded fun, spirited and not intimidating. Apple took the edge off the word `computer.'" (63)
•His mother Clara Jobs didn't mind losing most of her house to piles of computer parts and house guests, but she was frustrated by her son's increasingly quirky diets. She would roll her eyes at his latest eating obsessions. She just wanted him to be healthy, and he would be making weird pronouncements like, "I'm a fruitarian and I will only eat leaves picked by virgins in the moonlight." (68)
•He was still convinced against all evidence that his vegan diet meant that he didn't need to use a deodorant or take regular showers. . . . At meetings people had to look at his dirty feet. Sometimes to relieve stress, he would soak his feet in the toilet. (82)
•A colleague who recommended he bathe more often was told that "in exchange" he would have to read fruitarian diet books. "Steve was adamant that he bathed once a week, and that was adequate as long as he was eating a fruitarian diet." (82-83)
•In 1979 or so he "put aside drugs, eased away from being a strict vegan, and cut back the time he spent on Zen retreats." (91)
•He decreed that the sodas in the office refrigerator be replaced by Odwalla organic orange and carrot juices." (118)
•The kitchen was stocked daily with Odwalla juices (142)
•At the launch of the Lisa computer in 1983, he ate a special vegan meal at the Four Seasons restaurant (152)
•He had edged away from his strict vegan diet for the time being and ate vegetarian omelets. (155)
•In 1984 in Italy, Jobs demanded a vegan meal and became extremely angry when the waiter very elaborately proceeded to dish out a sauce filled with sour cream. (185)
•The meal for his 30th birthday celebration included goat cheese and salmon mousse. (189)
•He had a lot of mannerisms. He bit his nails. His hands were "slightly and inexplicably yellow" and in constant motion. (223)
•At a meal with Mitch Kapor, the chairman of Lotus software, Jobs was horrified to see Kapor slathering butter on his bread, and asked, "Have you ever heard of serum cholesterol?" Kapor responded, "I'll make you a deal. You stay away from commenting on my dietary habits, and I will stay away from the subject of your personality." (224)
•At a 1988 NeXT product launch, the lunch menu included mineral water, croissants, cream cheese, bean sprouts. (233)
•Jobs was a vegetarian and so was Chrisann, the mother of his daughter Lisa. Lisa was not vegetarian, but Jobs was fine with that. "Eating chicken became her little indulgence as she shuttled between two parents who were vegetarians with a spiritual regard for natural foods." Jobs's "dietary fixations came in fanatic waves," and he was "fastidious" about what he ate. Lisa watched him "spit out a mouthful of soup one day after learning that it contained butter." (259-260)
•"Even at a young age Lisa began to realize his diet obsessions reflected a life philosophy, one in which asceticism and minimalism could heighten subsequent sensations. He believed that great harvests came from arid sources, pleasure from restraint. He knew the equations that most people didn't know: Things led to their opposites." (259-260)
•Once he took Lisa on a business trip to Tokyo and they stayed at the Okura Hotel. At the elegant downstairs sushi bar, Jobs ordered large trays of unagi sushi, a dish he loved so much that he allowed the warm cooked eel to pass muster as vegetarian. Lisa later wrote, "It was the first time, I'd felt with him, so relaxed and content, over those trays of meat; the excess, the permission and warmth after the cold salads, meant a once inaccessible space had opened. He was less rigid with himself, even human under the great ceilings with the little chairs with the meat and me." (260-261)
•Jobs had hired a hip young couple who had once worked at Chez Panisse as housekeepers ands vegetarian cooks (264)
•At his wedding to Laurene Powell, the cake was in the shape of Yosemite's Half Dome. It was strictly vegan and more than a few of the guest found it inedible. (274)
•"Since his early teens, he had indulged his weird obsession with extremely restrictive diets and fasts. Even after he married and had children, he retained his dubious eating habits. He would spend weeks eating the same thing — carrot salad with lemon, or just apples — and then suddenly spurn that food and declare that he had stopped eating it. He would go on fasts, just as he did as a teenager and he became sanctimonious as he lectured others at the table on the virtues of whatever eating regimen he was following." (477)
•Jobs's wife, Laurene Powell, had been a vegan when they first married, but after her husband's first cancer operation, the partial Whipple procedure, she began to diversify the family meals with fish and other proteins. Their son, Reed, who had been a vegetarian, became a "hearty omnivore." They knew it was important for Steve to get diverse sources of protein. (477)
•Early in 2008, Jobs's eating disorders got worse. On some nights he would stare at the floor and ignore all of the dishes set out on the long kitchen table. He lost 40 pounds during the spring of 2008.
•Dr James Eason "would even stop at the convenience store to get the energy drinks Jobs liked." (485)
•He remained a finicky eater, which was more of a problem than ever. He would eat only fruit smoothies and he would demand that seven or eight of them be lined up so he could find an option that might satisfy him. He would touch the spoon to his mouth for a tiny taste and pronounce `That's no good. That one's no good either.'" His doctor lectured him: "You know this isn't a matter of taste. Stop thinking of this as food. Start thinking of it as medicine." (486)
•Early in 2010, Jobs went to dinner and ordered a mango smoothie and plain vegan pasta. (505)
•At the launch of the iPad2, Isaacson reported "For a change he was eating, though still with some pickiness. He ordered fresh squeezed juice, which he sent back three times, declaring that each new offering was from a bottle, and a pasta primavera which he shoved away as inedible after one taste. But then he ate half of my crab Louise salad and ordered a full one for himself followed by a bowl of ice cream." (527)
•"Jobs's eating problems were exacerbated over the years by his psychological attitude toward food. When he was young, he learned that he could induce euphoria and ecstasy by fasting. So even though he knew that he should eat — his doctors were begging him to consume high-quality protein –lingering in the back of his subconscious, he admitted was his instinct for fasting and for diets like Arnold Ehret's fruit regimen that he had embraced as a teenager. Powell kept telling him it was crazy. `I wanted him to force himself to eat,' she said `and it was incredibly tense at home.'" (548-549)
•Bryar Brown, their part-time cook, would prepare an array of healthy dishes, but Jobs would touch his tongue to one or two dishes and then dismiss them all as inedible. One evening he announced, "I could probably eat a little pumpkin pie," and the even-tempered Brown created a beautiful pie from scratch in an hour. Jobs ate only one bite, but Brown was thrilled." (549)
•During the final years of his life, Powell talked to eating disorder specialists and psychiatrists to try to get help, but her husband shunned them. (549)
That's it. Not a lot to work with, but more than enough to show a longstanding pattern of eating disorders.

On the plus side, Jobs's diet seems to have been consistently organic and high quality. He employed chefs who'd worked at Chef Panisse, and his wife Laurene Powell founded Terravera, a company that produces ready-to-eat organic meals for stores in northern California. Jobs does not appear to have ever been a junk-food vegan who indulged in all-American junk foods such as soda, chocolate, cookies and crackers.

Soy is not mentioned at all in Isaacson's biography. Although the Apple culture was soy friendly with soy milk readily available in vending machines and at coffee stations, Jobs himself may well have rejected it. Jobs had a longstanding fascination with the book The Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret (1866-1922), who claimed the human body is an "air-gas engine" that runs well only on fruits, starchless vegetables and edible green leaves. Soy and other legumes, according to Ehret's way of thinking, were to be disdained as mucus-producing forbidden foods. Ehret not only condemned protein and fat as "unnatural" but said they could not be used by the body. Inspired by such theories, Jobs appears to have eaten a diet low in both fat and protein for most of his life. And what did he eat instead? Carbs high in fructose.

Whether or not Jobs was in one of his fanatic fruitarian phases, he favored a lot of fruit and fruit juice. These are not only high on the glycemic index, but loaded with fructose. Fruits and fruit juices greatly stress the liver and pancreas, contribute to diabetes and many other blood sugar disorders, and have been linked to pancreatic cancer. Jobs suffered from a type of pancreatic cancer known as islet cell carcinoma, which originates in the insulin-secreting beta cells.

Research published in the November 2007 issue of American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was "evidence for a greater pancreatic cancer risk with a high intake of fruit and juices but not with a high intake of sodas." More recently, in the August 2010 issue of Cancer Research, Dr. Anthony Healy of UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center proposed that aberrant fructose metabolism — and not just aberrant glucose metabolism — might be involved in the pathogenesis of pancreatic cancer. Seems fructose provides the raw material cancer cells prefer to use to make the DNA they need to divide and proliferate. Although the UCLA findings are preliminary and more research needs to be done, the Reuters headline "Cancer Cells Slurp Up Fructose" is fair warning to all of us addicted to fruit and fruit juices, organic or otherwise.

Clearly Jobs broke away from strict veganism from time to time to indulge in a few eggs, salmon and unagi sushi. The words of his daughter Lisa (quoted above) provide a moving testimony to how well Jobs's body and mind responded to eating eel, a fish rich in protein and fat. That said, vegans who would like to think Jobs became sick because he failed to be "perfect vegan" now have evidence to support that belief.




 
I agree with your statements absolutely. I am surprised that plants react to fear and pain. once again, you have provided me with something to research in my spare time. So, you say only 15 to 30% of plant protein can be used by the body, now I have to ask, is the percentage in reference to different types of plant proteins or... well that seem to be the most likely so I'm just going to end the question there. I buy whey protein with a bunch of various amino acids, to help with muscle gaining. I also eat meat at least once a day. whatchu think about whey protein for working out? It has a ton of people endorsing it, but, well, I know all too well how the jew works.
 

To: [email protected]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 14:44:59 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  The views of vegetarians fall into two main points. One meat is unhealthy to the body so they avoid it. And two is the ethicial debate of slaughtering of animals for food.   The first point is correct is we are looking at factory farmed meat as its loaded with toxic crap, the two major flu viruses that hit N.America came from factory farming operations. If one switches to proper organic meats the first point is cancelled out. The second point is true once again if one looks at the factory farming. But the ethicial animal farms are different and the aspect of killing the animal for food is the way of nature. Beckett studies found plants are just as conscious as animals and react to pain and fear the same way. So the ethic debate is settled. And becomes a matter of bias of what kingdom of life you consider more sentimental about.   The fact is only about 15 to 30% of plant protein can be used by the body and its a weak protein. All plant food is missing B12 as well. Without good B12 levels one can go into a coma and die its vital for brain and gut functioning. The whole vegan population has to take B12 supplements to stay alive but very litte  of non-vegan populations have to do this. Then the quality of the synthetic B12 is low.   The final fact is humans have been eating meat from what has been traced back to our most earliest know pre human ancestors in the fossil record of 3.4 million years we are adapted for this by millions of years of evolution. And despite the claims of some vegans who like to point to other animals in a natural fallacy attempt. Cows, Horses and others have a different biology and the Chimps they love to point to as our nearest non-human relative of which we split from millions of years ago as vegan eaters. Also eat meat, they eat hunt rival Chimps in packs and kill and eat them.etc
From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:03:14 AM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  I think of vegetarians as the sexists of food. I love meat, its the point of water meal I'm eating. or sometimes eggs are. but usually meat. matter of fact, I'm about to say hello to the ham in the fridge.
 
To: [email protected]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 00:56:47 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  The long list of people who have ruined their health or literally died from new aged vegan/vegetarian diets is long. Its to the point most of the ideological vegans are only vegan several days a week in private. But seven days a week in public. And the list of jews pushing this is long.

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Steve Jobs died October 5, and the animal rights organization PETA stepped right up to honor him as a vegetarian who was deeply committed to animal welfare and the environment. PETA, of course, has yet to acknowledge the role that Jobs's near vegan diet may have played in his death, and continues to maintain that their particular brand of "right eating" will virtually guarantee freedom from cancer and other major health problems.

When I blogged about this topic in October, I promised I would follow up once I learned more about Jobs's dietary habits from Walter Isaacson's biography Steve Jobs (Simon & Schuster, 2011). This column delivers on that promise.

The bullet points below include every reference to diet in the entire book, followed by page numbers. My brief comments are found at the very end.

•Jobs came to appreciate organic fruits and vegetables as a teenager when a neighbor taught him how to be a good organic gardener and to compost. (14)
•Between his sophomore and junior hear of high school, he began smoking marijuana regularly and by his senior year was dabbling in LSD as well as exploring the mind bending effect of sleep deprivation (18-19)
•Toward the end of his senior year in high school, he began his "lifelong experiments with compulsive diets, eating only fruits and vegetables so he was as lean and tight as a whippet" (31)
•He attended the love festivals at the local Hare Krishna temple, and went to the Zen center for free vegetarian meals. (35)
•He was greatly influenced by the book Diet for a Small Planet by Frances Moore Lappe. At that point he swore off meat for good and began embracing extreme diets, which included purges, fasts or eating only one or two foods , such as carrots or apples for weeks on end. (36)
•For awhile at college, Jobs lived on Roman Meal cereal. He would buy a box, which would last a week, then flats of dates, almonds and a lot of carrots. He made carrot juice with a Champion juicer, and at one point turned "a sunset-like orange hue." (36)
•His dietary habits became more obsessive when he read the Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret. Jobs then favored eating nothing but fruits and starchless vegetables, which he said prevented the body from forming harmful mucus, and determined to regularly cleanse his body through prolonged fasts. That meant no more Roman Meal cereal — or any bread, grains, or milk for that matter. At one point, he spent an entire week eating only apples, and then began to try even purer fasts. He started with two day fasts and eventually stretched them out to a week or more, breaking them with large amounts of water and leafy vegetables. "After a week, you start to feel fantastic," he said. "You get a ton of vitality from not having to digest all this food. I was in great shape I felt I could get up and walk to San Francisco anytime I wanted." (36)
•As a $5 an hour technician at Atari, he was known as "a hippie with b.o." and "impossible to deal with." He clung to the belief that his fruit-heavy vegetarian diet would prevent not just mucus but also body odor. As Isaacson writes "It was a flawed theory." (43)
•"He was doing a lot of soul-searching about being adopted . . . (with) the primal scream and the mucusless diets, he was trying to cleanse himself and get deeper into his frustration about his birth." (51)
•He was a fan of the Whole Earth Catalog and particularly taken by the final issue, which came out in 1971 when he was still in high school. On the back cover it said "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." (59)
•The name Apple Computers came to him when he was on one of his fruitarian diets. "I had just come back from the apple farm. It sounded fun, spirited and not intimidating. Apple took the edge off the word `computer.'" (63)
•His mother Clara Jobs didn't mind losing most of her house to piles of computer parts and house guests, but she was frustrated by her son's increasingly quirky diets. She would roll her eyes at his latest eating obsessions. She just wanted him to be healthy, and he would be making weird pronouncements like, "I'm a fruitarian and I will only eat leaves picked by virgins in the moonlight." (68)
•He was still convinced against all evidence that his vegan diet meant that he didn't need to use a deodorant or take regular showers. . . . At meetings people had to look at his dirty feet. Sometimes to relieve stress, he would soak his feet in the toilet. (82)
•A colleague who recommended he bathe more often was told that "in exchange" he would have to read fruitarian diet books. "Steve was adamant that he bathed once a week, and that was adequate as long as he was eating a fruitarian diet." (82-83)
•In 1979 or so he "put aside drugs, eased away from being a strict vegan, and cut back the time he spent on Zen retreats." (91)
•He decreed that the sodas in the office refrigerator be replaced by Odwalla organic orange and carrot juices." (118)
•The kitchen was stocked daily with Odwalla juices (142)
•At the launch of the Lisa computer in 1983, he ate a special vegan meal at the Four Seasons restaurant (152)
•He had edged away from his strict vegan diet for the time being and ate vegetarian omelets. (155)
•In 1984 in Italy, Jobs demanded a vegan meal and became extremely angry when the waiter very elaborately proceeded to dish out a sauce filled with sour cream. (185)
•The meal for his 30th birthday celebration included goat cheese and salmon mousse. (189)
•He had a lot of mannerisms. He bit his nails. His hands were "slightly and inexplicably yellow" and in constant motion. (223)
•At a meal with Mitch Kapor, the chairman of Lotus software, Jobs was horrified to see Kapor slathering butter on his bread, and asked, "Have you ever heard of serum cholesterol?" Kapor responded, "I'll make you a deal. You stay away from commenting on my dietary habits, and I will stay away from the subject of your personality." (224)
•At a 1988 NeXT product launch, the lunch menu included mineral water, croissants, cream cheese, bean sprouts. (233)
•Jobs was a vegetarian and so was Chrisann, the mother of his daughter Lisa. Lisa was not vegetarian, but Jobs was fine with that. "Eating chicken became her little indulgence as she shuttled between two parents who were vegetarians with a spiritual regard for natural foods." Jobs's "dietary fixations came in fanatic waves," and he was "fastidious" about what he ate. Lisa watched him "spit out a mouthful of soup one day after learning that it contained butter." (259-260)
•"Even at a young age Lisa began to realize his diet obsessions reflected a life philosophy, one in which asceticism and minimalism could heighten subsequent sensations. He believed that great harvests came from arid sources, pleasure from restraint. He knew the equations that most people didn't know: Things led to their opposites." (259-260)
•Once he took Lisa on a business trip to Tokyo and they stayed at the Okura Hotel. At the elegant downstairs sushi bar, Jobs ordered large trays of unagi sushi, a dish he loved so much that he allowed the warm cooked eel to pass muster as vegetarian. Lisa later wrote, "It was the first time, I'd felt with him, so relaxed and content, over those trays of meat; the excess, the permission and warmth after the cold salads, meant a once inaccessible space had opened. He was less rigid with himself, even human under the great ceilings with the little chairs with the meat and me." (260-261)
•Jobs had hired a hip young couple who had once worked at Chez Panisse as housekeepers ands vegetarian cooks (264)
•At his wedding to Laurene Powell, the cake was in the shape of Yosemite's Half Dome. It was strictly vegan and more than a few of the guest found it inedible. (274)
•"Since his early teens, he had indulged his weird obsession with extremely restrictive diets and fasts. Even after he married and had children, he retained his dubious eating habits. He would spend weeks eating the same thing — carrot salad with lemon, or just apples — and then suddenly spurn that food and declare that he had stopped eating it. He would go on fasts, just as he did as a teenager and he became sanctimonious as he lectured others at the table on the virtues of whatever eating regimen he was following." (477)
•Jobs's wife, Laurene Powell, had been a vegan when they first married, but after her husband's first cancer operation, the partial Whipple procedure, she began to diversify the family meals with fish and other proteins. Their son, Reed, who had been a vegetarian, became a "hearty omnivore." They knew it was important for Steve to get diverse sources of protein. (477)
•Early in 2008, Jobs's eating disorders got worse. On some nights he would stare at the floor and ignore all of the dishes set out on the long kitchen table. He lost 40 pounds during the spring of 2008.
•Dr James Eason "would even stop at the convenience store to get the energy drinks Jobs liked." (485)
•He remained a finicky eater, which was more of a problem than ever. He would eat only fruit smoothies and he would demand that seven or eight of them be lined up so he could find an option that might satisfy him. He would touch the spoon to his mouth for a tiny taste and pronounce `That's no good. That one's no good either.'" His doctor lectured him: "You know this isn't a matter of taste. Stop thinking of this as food. Start thinking of it as medicine." (486)
•Early in 2010, Jobs went to dinner and ordered a mango smoothie and plain vegan pasta. (505)
•At the launch of the iPad2, Isaacson reported "For a change he was eating, though still with some pickiness. He ordered fresh squeezed juice, which he sent back three times, declaring that each new offering was from a bottle, and a pasta primavera which he shoved away as inedible after one taste. But then he ate half of my crab Louise salad and ordered a full one for himself followed by a bowl of ice cream." (527)
•"Jobs's eating problems were exacerbated over the years by his psychological attitude toward food. When he was young, he learned that he could induce euphoria and ecstasy by fasting. So even though he knew that he should eat — his doctors were begging him to consume high-quality protein –lingering in the back of his subconscious, he admitted was his instinct for fasting and for diets like Arnold Ehret's fruit regimen that he had embraced as a teenager. Powell kept telling him it was crazy. `I wanted him to force himself to eat,' she said `and it was incredibly tense at home.'" (548-549)
•Bryar Brown, their part-time cook, would prepare an array of healthy dishes, but Jobs would touch his tongue to one or two dishes and then dismiss them all as inedible. One evening he announced, "I could probably eat a little pumpkin pie," and the even-tempered Brown created a beautiful pie from scratch in an hour. Jobs ate only one bite, but Brown was thrilled." (549)
•During the final years of his life, Powell talked to eating disorder specialists and psychiatrists to try to get help, but her husband shunned them. (549)
That's it. Not a lot to work with, but more than enough to show a longstanding pattern of eating disorders.

On the plus side, Jobs's diet seems to have been consistently organic and high quality. He employed chefs who'd worked at Chef Panisse, and his wife Laurene Powell founded Terravera, a company that produces ready-to-eat organic meals for stores in northern California. Jobs does not appear to have ever been a junk-food vegan who indulged in all-American junk foods such as soda, chocolate, cookies and crackers.

Soy is not mentioned at all in Isaacson's biography. Although the Apple culture was soy friendly with soy milk readily available in vending machines and at coffee stations, Jobs himself may well have rejected it. Jobs had a longstanding fascination with the book The Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret (1866-1922), who claimed the human body is an "air-gas engine" that runs well only on fruits, starchless vegetables and edible green leaves. Soy and other legumes, according to Ehret's way of thinking, were to be disdained as mucus-producing forbidden foods. Ehret not only condemned protein and fat as "unnatural" but said they could not be used by the body. Inspired by such theories, Jobs appears to have eaten a diet low in both fat and protein for most of his life. And what did he eat instead? Carbs high in fructose.

Whether or not Jobs was in one of his fanatic fruitarian phases, he favored a lot of fruit and fruit juice. These are not only high on the glycemic index, but loaded with fructose. Fruits and fruit juices greatly stress the liver and pancreas, contribute to diabetes and many other blood sugar disorders, and have been linked to pancreatic cancer. Jobs suffered from a type of pancreatic cancer known as islet cell carcinoma, which originates in the insulin-secreting beta cells.

Research published in the November 2007 issue of American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was "evidence for a greater pancreatic cancer risk with a high intake of fruit and juices but not with a high intake of sodas." More recently, in the August 2010 issue of Cancer Research, Dr. Anthony Healy of UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center proposed that aberrant fructose metabolism — and not just aberrant glucose metabolism — might be involved in the pathogenesis of pancreatic cancer. Seems fructose provides the raw material cancer cells prefer to use to make the DNA they need to divide and proliferate. Although the UCLA findings are preliminary and more research needs to be done, the Reuters headline "Cancer Cells Slurp Up Fructose" is fair warning to all of us addicted to fruit and fruit juices, organic or otherwise.

Clearly Jobs broke away from strict veganism from time to time to indulge in a few eggs, salmon and unagi sushi. The words of his daughter Lisa (quoted above) provide a moving testimony to how well Jobs's body and mind responded to eating eel, a fish rich in protein and fat. That said, vegans who would like to think Jobs became sick because he failed to be "perfect vegan" now have evidence to support that belief.





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Whey [/IMG]</var>. But you have find a good brand. I remember Creatine some people almost died from taking it. The jews love to sell all kinds of crap to the health and fitness world.   Plant proteins some plants are higher then others, but still a weak protien in general. I once went around two months living on raw plant food and I was taking what was stated to be the highest protein plant food twice a day. And I still ending with mild deficiency in protein. I know some vegans state to eat nuts to help but nuts are a tricky situation as they have a special coding on them to keep them from being digested. One has to soak them for up to a day to break it down first. And then its still not the best as a sole source.   The most power plant food [ and plant food is powerful for healing and regeneration it has its place in nature] is growing wild in many peoples lawns, parks.etc But you have to know what you picking. An example is wild carrot looks very identical to another plant that is pure posion for humans. And I would never recommend mushroom hunting either all it takes is one mistake as in one case  almost an entire family died from eating them as part of dinner.   Its a bit off topic but the death angel mushroom which is supposed to have no known cure. Milk Thisle can cure this from statements by herbalist's as its the most powerful agent for healing the liver. Which shows the powerful of wilf plant [not domesticated] foods in their right place.
From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:28:54 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  I agree with your statements absolutely. I am surprised that plants react to fear and pain. once again, you have provided me with something to research in my spare time. So, you say only 15 to 30% of plant protein can be used by the body, now I have to ask, is the percentage in reference to different types of plant proteins or... well that seem to be the most likely so I'm just going to end the question there. I buy whey protein with a bunch of various amino acids, to help with muscle gaining. I also eat meat at least once a day. whatchu think about whey protein for working out? It has a ton of people endorsing it, but, well, I know all too well how the jew works.
 
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From: mageson6666@...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 14:44:59 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  The views of vegetarians fall into two main points. One meat is unhealthy to the body so they avoid it. And two is the ethicial debate of slaughtering of animals for food.   The first point is correct is we are looking at factory farmed meat as its loaded with toxic crap, the two major flu viruses that hit N.America came from factory farming operations. If one switches to proper organic meats the first point is cancelled out. The second point is true once again if one looks at the factory farming. But the ethicial animal farms are different and the aspect of killing the animal for food is the way of nature. Beckett studies found plants are just as conscious as animals and react to pain and fear the same way. So the ethic debate is settled. And becomes a matter of bias of what kingdom of life you consider more sentimental about.   The fact is only about 15 to 30% of plant protein can be used by the body and its a weak protein. All plant food is missing B12 as well. Without good B12 levels one can go into a coma and die its vital for brain and gut functioning. The whole vegan population has to take B12 supplements to stay alive but very litte  of non-vegan populations have to do this. Then the quality of the synthetic B12 is low.   The final fact is humans have been eating meat from what has been traced back to our most earliest know pre human ancestors in the fossil record of 3.4 million years we are adapted for this by millions of years of evolution. And despite the claims of some vegans who like to point to other animals in a natural fallacy attempt. Cows, Horses and others have a different biology and the Chimps they love to point to as our nearest non-human relative of which we split from millions of years ago as vegan eaters. Also eat meat, they eat hunt rival Chimps in packs and kill and eat them.etc
From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
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Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:03:14 AM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  I think of vegetarians as the sexists of food. I love meat, its the point of water meal I'm eating. or sometimes eggs are. but usually meat. matter of fact, I'm about to say hello to the ham in the fridge.
 
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From: mageson6666@...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 00:56:47 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  The long list of people who have ruined their health or literally died from new aged vegan/vegetarian diets is long. Its to the point most of the ideological vegans are only vegan several days a week in private. But seven days a week in public. And the list of jews pushing this is long.

================================================================

http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/kdani ... teve-jobs/

Steve Jobs died October 5, and the animal rights organization PETA stepped right up to honor him as a vegetarian who was deeply committed to animal welfare and the environment. PETA, of course, has yet to acknowledge the role that Jobs's near vegan diet may have played in his death, and continues to maintain that their particular brand of "right eating" will virtually guarantee freedom from cancer and other major health problems.

When I blogged about this topic in October, I promised I would follow up once I learned more about Jobs's dietary habits from Walter Isaacson's biography Steve Jobs (Simon & Schuster, 2011). This column delivers on that promise.

The bullet points below include every reference to diet in the entire book, followed by page numbers. My brief comments are found at the very end.

•Jobs came to appreciate organic fruits and vegetables as a teenager when a neighbor taught him how to be a good organic gardener and to compost. (14)
•Between his sophomore and junior hear of high school, he began smoking marijuana regularly and by his senior year was dabbling in LSD as well as exploring the mind bending effect of sleep deprivation (18-19)
•Toward the end of his senior year in high school, he began his "lifelong experiments with compulsive diets, eating only fruits and vegetables so he was as lean and tight as a whippet" (31)
•He attended the love festivals at the local Hare Krishna temple, and went to the Zen center for free vegetarian meals. (35)
•He was greatly influenced by the book Diet for a Small Planet by Frances Moore Lappe. At that point he swore off meat for good and began embracing extreme diets, which included purges, fasts or eating only one or two foods , such as carrots or apples for weeks on end. (36)
•For awhile at college, Jobs lived on Roman Meal cereal. He would buy a box, which would last a week, then flats of dates, almonds and a lot of carrots. He made carrot juice with a Champion juicer, and at one point turned "a sunset-like orange hue." (36)
•His dietary habits became more obsessive when he read the Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret. Jobs then favored eating nothing but fruits and starchless vegetables, which he said prevented the body from forming harmful mucus, and determined to regularly cleanse his body through prolonged fasts. That meant no more Roman Meal cereal — or any bread, grains, or milk for that matter. At one point, he spent an entire week eating only apples, and then began to try even purer fasts. He started with two day fasts and eventually stretched them out to a week or more, breaking them with large amounts of water and leafy vegetables. "After a week, you start to feel fantastic," he said. "You get a ton of vitality from not having to digest all this food. I was in great shape I felt I could get up and walk to San Francisco anytime I wanted." (36)
•As a $5 an hour technician at Atari, he was known as "a hippie with b.o." and "impossible to deal with." He clung to the belief that his fruit-heavy vegetarian diet would prevent not just mucus but also body odor. As Isaacson writes "It was a flawed theory." (43)
•"He was doing a lot of soul-searching about being adopted . . . (with) the primal scream and the mucusless diets, he was trying to cleanse himself and get deeper into his frustration about his birth." (51)
•He was a fan of the Whole Earth Catalog and particularly taken by the final issue, which came out in 1971 when he was still in high school. On the back cover it said "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." (59)
•The name Apple Computers came to him when he was on one of his fruitarian diets. "I had just come back from the apple farm. It sounded fun, spirited and not intimidating. Apple took the edge off the word `computer.'" (63)
•His mother Clara Jobs didn't mind losing most of her house to piles of computer parts and house guests, but she was frustrated by her son's increasingly quirky diets. She would roll her eyes at his latest eating obsessions. She just wanted him to be healthy, and he would be making weird pronouncements like, "I'm a fruitarian and I will only eat leaves picked by virgins in the moonlight." (68)
•He was still convinced against all evidence that his vegan diet meant that he didn't need to use a deodorant or take regular showers. . . . At meetings people had to look at his dirty feet. Sometimes to relieve stress, he would soak his feet in the toilet. (82)
•A colleague who recommended he bathe more often was told that "in exchange" he would have to read fruitarian diet books. "Steve was adamant that he bathed once a week, and that was adequate as long as he was eating a fruitarian diet." (82-83)
•In 1979 or so he "put aside drugs, eased away from being a strict vegan, and cut back the time he spent on Zen retreats." (91)
•He decreed that the sodas in the office refrigerator be replaced by Odwalla organic orange and carrot juices." (118)
•The kitchen was stocked daily with Odwalla juices (142)
•At the launch of the Lisa computer in 1983, he ate a special vegan meal at the Four Seasons restaurant (152)
•He had edged away from his strict vegan diet for the time being and ate vegetarian omelets. (155)
•In 1984 in Italy, Jobs demanded a vegan meal and became extremely angry when the waiter very elaborately proceeded to dish out a sauce filled with sour cream. (185)
•The meal for his 30th birthday celebration included goat cheese and salmon mousse. (189)
•He had a lot of mannerisms. He bit his nails. His hands were "slightly and inexplicably yellow" and in constant motion. (223)
•At a meal with Mitch Kapor, the chairman of Lotus software, Jobs was horrified to see Kapor slathering butter on his bread, and asked, "Have you ever heard of serum cholesterol?" Kapor responded, "I'll make you a deal. You stay away from commenting on my dietary habits, and I will stay away from the subject of your personality." (224)
•At a 1988 NeXT product launch, the lunch menu included mineral water, croissants, cream cheese, bean sprouts. (233)
•Jobs was a vegetarian and so was Chrisann, the mother of his daughter Lisa. Lisa was not vegetarian, but Jobs was fine with that. "Eating chicken became her little indulgence as she shuttled between two parents who were vegetarians with a spiritual regard for natural foods." Jobs's "dietary fixations came in fanatic waves," and he was "fastidious" about what he ate. Lisa watched him "spit out a mouthful of soup one day after learning that it contained butter." (259-260)
•"Even at a young age Lisa began to realize his diet obsessions reflected a life philosophy, one in which asceticism and minimalism could heighten subsequent sensations. He believed that great harvests came from arid sources, pleasure from restraint. He knew the equations that most people didn't know: Things led to their opposites." (259-260)
•Once he took Lisa on a business trip to Tokyo and they stayed at the Okura Hotel. At the elegant downstairs sushi bar, Jobs ordered large trays of unagi sushi, a dish he loved so much that he allowed the warm cooked eel to pass muster as vegetarian. Lisa later wrote, "It was the first time, I'd felt with him, so relaxed and content, over those trays of meat; the excess, the permission and warmth after the cold salads, meant a once inaccessible space had opened. He was less rigid with himself, even human under the great ceilings with the little chairs with the meat and me." (260-261)
•Jobs had hired a hip young couple who had once worked at Chez Panisse as housekeepers ands vegetarian cooks (264)
•At his wedding to Laurene Powell, the cake was in the shape of Yosemite's Half Dome. It was strictly vegan and more than a few of the guest found it inedible. (274)
•"Since his early teens, he had indulged his weird obsession with extremely restrictive diets and fasts. Even after he married and had children, he retained his dubious eating habits. He would spend weeks eating the same thing — carrot salad with lemon, or just apples — and then suddenly spurn that food and declare that he had stopped eating it. He would go on fasts, just as he did as a teenager and he became sanctimonious as he lectured others at the table on the virtues of whatever eating regimen he was following." (477)
•Jobs's wife, Laurene Powell, had been a vegan when they first married, but after her husband's first cancer operation, the partial Whipple procedure, she began to diversify the family meals with fish and other proteins. Their son, Reed, who had been a vegetarian, became a "hearty omnivore." They knew it was important for Steve to get diverse sources of protein. (477)
•Early in 2008, Jobs's eating disorders got worse. On some nights he would stare at the floor and ignore all of the dishes set out on the long kitchen table. He lost 40 pounds during the spring of 2008.
•Dr James Eason "would even stop at the convenience store to get the energy drinks Jobs liked." (485)
•He remained a finicky eater, which was more of a problem than ever. He would eat only fruit smoothies and he would demand that seven or eight of them be lined up so he could find an option that might satisfy him. He would touch the spoon to his mouth for a tiny taste and pronounce `That's no good. That one's no good either.'" His doctor lectured him: "You know this isn't a matter of taste. Stop thinking of this as food. Start thinking of it as medicine." (486)
•Early in 2010, Jobs went to dinner and ordered a mango smoothie and plain vegan pasta. (505)
•At the launch of the iPad2, Isaacson reported "For a change he was eating, though still with some pickiness. He ordered fresh squeezed juice, which he sent back three times, declaring that each new offering was from a bottle, and a pasta primavera which he shoved away as inedible after one taste. But then he ate half of my crab Louise salad and ordered a full one for himself followed by a bowl of ice cream." (527)
•"Jobs's eating problems were exacerbated over the years by his psychological attitude toward food. When he was young, he learned that he could induce euphoria and ecstasy by fasting. So even though he knew that he should eat — his doctors were begging him to consume high-quality protein –lingering in the back of his subconscious, he admitted was his instinct for fasting and for diets like Arnold Ehret's fruit regimen that he had embraced as a teenager. Powell kept telling him it was crazy. `I wanted him to force himself to eat,' she said `and it was incredibly tense at home.'" (548-549)
•Bryar Brown, their part-time cook, would prepare an array of healthy dishes, but Jobs would touch his tongue to one or two dishes and then dismiss them all as inedible. One evening he announced, "I could probably eat a little pumpkin pie," and the even-tempered Brown created a beautiful pie from scratch in an hour. Jobs ate only one bite, but Brown was thrilled." (549)
•During the final years of his life, Powell talked to eating disorder specialists and psychiatrists to try to get help, but her husband shunned them. (549)
That's it. Not a lot to work with, but more than enough to show a longstanding pattern of eating disorders.

On the plus side, Jobs's diet seems to have been consistently organic and high quality. He employed chefs who'd worked at Chef Panisse, and his wife Laurene Powell founded Terravera, a company that produces ready-to-eat organic meals for stores in northern California. Jobs does not appear to have ever been a junk-food vegan who indulged in all-American junk foods such as soda, chocolate, cookies and crackers.

Soy is not mentioned at all in Isaacson's biography. Although the Apple culture was soy friendly with soy milk readily available in vending machines and at coffee stations, Jobs himself may well have rejected it. Jobs had a longstanding fascination with the book The Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret (1866-1922), who claimed the human body is an "air-gas engine" that runs well only on fruits, starchless vegetables and edible green leaves. Soy and other legumes, according to Ehret's way of thinking, were to be disdained as mucus-producing forbidden foods. Ehret not only condemned protein and fat as "unnatural" but said they could not be used by the body. Inspired by such theories, Jobs appears to have eaten a diet low in both fat and protein for most of his life. And what did he eat instead? Carbs high in fructose.

Whether or not Jobs was in one of his fanatic fruitarian phases, he favored a lot of fruit and fruit juice. These are not only high on the glycemic index, but loaded with fructose. Fruits and fruit juices greatly stress the liver and pancreas, contribute to diabetes and many other blood sugar disorders, and have been linked to pancreatic cancer. Jobs suffered from a type of pancreatic cancer known as islet cell carcinoma, which originates in the insulin-secreting beta cells.

Research published in the November 2007 issue of American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was "evidence for a greater pancreatic cancer risk with a high intake of fruit and juices but not with a high intake of sodas." More recently, in the August 2010 issue of Cancer Research, Dr. Anthony Healy of UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center proposed that aberrant fructose metabolism — and not just aberrant glucose metabolism — might be involved in the pathogenesis of pancreatic cancer. Seems fructose provides the raw material cancer cells prefer to use to make the DNA they need to divide and proliferate. Although the UCLA findings are preliminary and more research needs to be done, the Reuters headline "Cancer Cells Slurp Up Fructose" is fair warning to all of us addicted to fruit and fruit juices, organic or otherwise.

Clearly Jobs broke away from strict veganism from time to time to indulge in a few eggs, salmon and unagi sushi. The words of his daughter Lisa (quoted above) provide a moving testimony to how well Jobs's body and mind responded to eating eel, a fish rich in protein and fat. That said, vegans who would like to think Jobs became sick because he failed to be "perfect vegan" now have evidence to support that belief.







 
Exactly.
And gmo corn or others (soya beans) are no safer than factory farmed meat. With all the chemicals put into them during growth on top of that.
What You mentioned: meat and animal fat is the food that human genotype was evolving on. Humans were eating grass only when they had to - not because they liked it.Meat and animal fat is The Food :D Provided it's not packed with toxic wastes and is genuine.All the so called authorities practically force a meat free, especially fat free diet on population. Everything is fat free or at least, low fat. And where it did take Us? People following such "advices" eat almost only carbohydrates... Be it in form of factory made sugar or plants. And here we have them, all of the so called civilization diseases: diabetes, high blood pressure to neme just two. All those diseases kill thousands of people each year. That's what we got from trying to be smarter than nature.Human biology cannot be decieved. Not for long.The person that came up with "5 a day" and basically all mainstream dieticians are nothing but criminals.

*sarcasm* A food for thought (darn it did come out nicely :D): isn't it interesting how all the companies, corporations and government run agencies promote that "one and only true and healthy" way of life? They are fanatics of those programs...
Cholesterol has been labelled "evil" and is accused of causing all the mentioned diseases. Animal fat is evil and only plant oils are OK. Carbohydrates are the only way to go. People of the Earth: eat grass and sugar...

Even though it has been proven many times by independent tests and studies (and only those that weren't sponsored by food companies may be considered valid, for obvious reasons) that the sentence above is a load of bollocks and it is in fact the other way around. *sarcasm*

Another proof of jewish conspiracy to kill the Gentiles.

Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War!
/Mike
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Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

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From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:03:14 AM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  I think of vegetarians as the sexists of food. I love meat, its the point of water meal I'm eating. or sometimes eggs are. but usually meat. matter of fact, I'm about to say hello to the ham in the fridge.
 
To: [email protected]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 00:56:47 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  The long list of people who have ruined their health or literally died from new aged vegan/vegetarian diets is long. Its to the point most of the ideological vegans are only vegan several days a week in private. But seven days a week in public. And the list of jews pushing this is long.

================================================================

http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/kdani ... teve-jobs/

Steve Jobs died October 5, and the animal rights organization PETA stepped right up to honor him as a vegetarian who was deeply committed to animal welfare and the environment. PETA, of course, has yet to acknowledge the role that Jobs's near vegan diet may have played in his death, and continues to maintain that their particular brand of "right eating" will virtually guarantee freedom from cancer and other major health problems.

When I blogged about this topic in October, I promised I would follow up once I learned more about Jobs's dietary habits from Walter Isaacson's biography Steve Jobs (Simon & Schuster, 2011). This column delivers on that promise.

The bullet points below include every reference to diet in the entire book, followed by page numbers. My brief comments are found at the very end.

•Jobs came to appreciate organic fruits and vegetables as a teenager when a neighbor taught him how to be a good organic gardener and to compost. (14)
•Between his sophomore and junior hear of high school, he began smoking marijuana regularly and by his senior year was dabbling in LSD as well as exploring the mind bending effect of sleep deprivation (18-19)
•Toward the end of his senior year in high school, he began his "lifelong experiments with compulsive diets, eating only fruits and vegetables so he was as lean and tight as a whippet" (31)
•He attended the love festivals at the local Hare Krishna temple, and went to the Zen center for free vegetarian meals. (35)
•He was greatly influenced by the book Diet for a Small Planet by Frances Moore Lappe. At that point he swore off meat for good and began embracing extreme diets, which included purges, fasts or eating only one or two foods , such as carrots or apples for weeks on end. (36)
•For awhile at college, Jobs lived on Roman Meal cereal. He would buy a box, which would last a week, then flats of dates, almonds and a lot of carrots. He made carrot juice with a Champion juicer, and at one point turned "a sunset-like orange hue." (36)
•His dietary habits became more obsessive when he read the Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret. Jobs then favored eating nothing but fruits and starchless vegetables, which he said prevented the body from forming harmful mucus, and determined to regularly cleanse his body through prolonged fasts. That meant no more Roman Meal cereal — or any bread, grains, or milk for that matter. At one point, he spent an entire week eating only apples, and then began to try even purer fasts. He started with two day fasts and eventually stretched them out to a week or more, breaking them with large amounts of water and leafy vegetables. "After a week, you start to feel fantastic," he said. "You get a ton of vitality from not having to digest all this food. I was in great shape I felt I could get up and walk to San Francisco anytime I wanted." (36)
•As a $5 an hour technician at Atari, he was known as "a hippie with b.o." and "impossible to deal with." He clung to the belief that his fruit-heavy vegetarian diet would prevent not just mucus but also body odor. As Isaacson writes "It was a flawed theory." (43)
•"He was doing a lot of soul-searching about being adopted . . . (with) the primal scream and the mucusless diets, he was trying to cleanse himself and get deeper into his frustration about his birth." (51)
•He was a fan of the Whole Earth Catalog and particularly taken by the final issue, which came out in 1971 when he was still in high school. On the back cover it said "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." (59)
•The name Apple Computers came to him when he was on one of his fruitarian diets. "I had just come back from the apple farm. It sounded fun, spirited and not intimidating. Apple took the edge off the word `computer.'" (63)
•His mother Clara Jobs didn't mind losing most of her house to piles of computer parts and house guests, but she was frustrated by her son's increasingly quirky diets. She would roll her eyes at his latest eating obsessions. She just wanted him to be healthy, and he would be making weird pronouncements like, "I'm a fruitarian and I will only eat leaves picked by virgins in the moonlight." (68)
•He was still convinced against all evidence that his vegan diet meant that he didn't need to use a deodorant or take regular showers. . . . At meetings people had to look at his dirty feet. Sometimes to relieve stress, he would soak his feet in the toilet. (82)
•A colleague who recommended he bathe more often was told that "in exchange" he would have to read fruitarian diet books. "Steve was adamant that he bathed once a week, and that was adequate as long as he was eating a fruitarian diet." (82-83)
•In 1979 or so he "put aside drugs, eased away from being a strict vegan, and cut back the time he spent on Zen retreats." (91)
•He decreed that the sodas in the office refrigerator be replaced by Odwalla organic orange and carrot juices." (118)
•The kitchen was stocked daily with Odwalla juices (142)
•At the launch of the Lisa computer in 1983, he ate a special vegan meal at the Four Seasons restaurant (152)
•He had edged away from his strict vegan diet for the time being and ate vegetarian omelets. (155)
•In 1984 in Italy, Jobs demanded a vegan meal and became extremely angry when the waiter very elaborately proceeded to dish out a sauce filled with sour cream. (185)
•The meal for his 30th birthday celebration included goat cheese and salmon mousse. (189)
•He had a lot of mannerisms. He bit his nails. His hands were "slightly and inexplicably yellow" and in constant motion. (223)
•At a meal with Mitch Kapor, the chairman of Lotus software, Jobs was horrified to see Kapor slathering butter on his bread, and asked, "Have you ever heard of serum cholesterol?" Kapor responded, "I'll make you a deal. You stay away from commenting on my dietary habits, and I will stay away from the subject of your personality." (224)
•At a 1988 NeXT product launch, the lunch menu included mineral water, croissants, cream cheese, bean sprouts. (233)
•Jobs was a vegetarian and so was Chrisann, the mother of his daughter Lisa. Lisa was not vegetarian, but Jobs was fine with that. "Eating chicken became her little indulgence as she shuttled between two parents who were vegetarians with a spiritual regard for natural foods." Jobs's "dietary fixations came in fanatic waves," and he was "fastidious" about what he ate. Lisa watched him "spit out a mouthful of soup one day after learning that it contained butter." (259-260)
•"Even at a young age Lisa began to realize his diet obsessions reflected a life philosophy, one in which asceticism and minimalism could heighten subsequent sensations. He believed that great harvests came from arid sources, pleasure from restraint. He knew the equations that most people didn't know: Things led to their opposites." (259-260)
•Once he took Lisa on a business trip to Tokyo and they stayed at the Okura Hotel. At the elegant downstairs sushi bar, Jobs ordered large trays of unagi sushi, a dish he loved so much that he allowed the warm cooked eel to pass muster as vegetarian. Lisa later wrote, "It was the first time, I'd felt with him, so relaxed and content, over those trays of meat; the excess, the permission and warmth after the cold salads, meant a once inaccessible space had opened. He was less rigid with himself, even human under the great ceilings with the little chairs with the meat and me." (260-261)
•Jobs had hired a hip young couple who had once worked at Chez Panisse as housekeepers ands vegetarian cooks (264)
•At his wedding to Laurene Powell, the cake was in the shape of Yosemite's Half Dome. It was strictly vegan and more than a few of the guest found it inedible. (274)
•"Since his early teens, he had indulged his weird obsession with extremely restrictive diets and fasts. Even after he married and had children, he retained his dubious eating habits. He would spend weeks eating the same thing — carrot salad with lemon, or just apples — and then suddenly spurn that food and declare that he had stopped eating it. He would go on fasts, just as he did as a teenager and he became sanctimonious as he lectured others at the table on the virtues of whatever eating regimen he was following." (477)
•Jobs's wife, Laurene Powell, had been a vegan when they first married, but after her husband's first cancer operation, the partial Whipple procedure, she began to diversify the family meals with fish and other proteins. Their son, Reed, who had been a vegetarian, became a "hearty omnivore." They knew it was important for Steve to get diverse sources of protein. (477)
•Early in 2008, Jobs's eating disorders got worse. On some nights he would stare at the floor and ignore all of the dishes set out on the long kitchen table. He lost 40 pounds during the spring of 2008.
•Dr James Eason "would even stop at the convenience store to get the energy drinks Jobs liked." (485)
•He remained a finicky eater, which was more of a problem than ever. He would eat only fruit smoothies and he would demand that seven or eight of them be lined up so he could find an option that might satisfy him. He would touch the spoon to his mouth for a tiny taste and pronounce `That's no good. That one's no good either.'" His doctor lectured him: "You know this isn't a matter of taste. Stop thinking of this as food. Start thinking of it as medicine." (486)
•Early in 2010, Jobs went to dinner and ordered a mango smoothie and plain vegan pasta. (505)
•At the launch of the iPad2, Isaacson reported "For a change he was eating, though still with some pickiness. He ordered fresh squeezed juice, which he sent back three times, declaring that each new offering was from a bottle, and a pasta primavera which he shoved away as inedible after one taste. But then he ate half of my crab Louise salad and ordered a full one for himself followed by a bowl of ice cream." (527)
•"Jobs's eating problems were exacerbated over the years by his psychological attitude toward food. When he was young, he learned that he could induce euphoria and ecstasy by fasting. So even though he knew that he should eat — his doctors were begging him to consume high-quality protein –lingering in the back of his subconscious, he admitted was his instinct for fasting and for diets like Arnold Ehret's fruit regimen that he had embraced as a teenager. Powell kept telling him it was crazy. `I wanted him to force himself to eat,' she said `and it was incredibly tense at home.'" (548-549)
•Bryar Brown, their part-time cook, would prepare an array of healthy dishes, but Jobs would touch his tongue to one or two dishes and then dismiss them all as inedible. One evening he announced, "I could probably eat a little pumpkin pie," and the even-tempered Brown created a beautiful pie from scratch in an hour. Jobs ate only one bite, but Brown was thrilled." (549)
•During the final years of his life, Powell talked to eating disorder specialists and psychiatrists to try to get help, but her husband shunned them. (549)
That's it. Not a lot to work with, but more than enough to show a longstanding pattern of eating disorders.

On the plus side, Jobs's diet seems to have been consistently organic and high quality. He employed chefs who'd worked at Chef Panisse, and his wife Laurene Powell founded Terravera, a company that produces ready-to-eat organic meals for stores in northern California. Jobs does not appear to have ever been a junk-food vegan who indulged in all-American junk foods such as soda, chocolate, cookies and crackers.

Soy is not mentioned at all in Isaacson's biography. Although the Apple culture was soy friendly with soy milk readily available in vending machines and at coffee stations, Jobs himself may well have rejected it. Jobs had a longstanding fascination with the book The Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret (1866-1922), who claimed the human body is an "air-gas engine" that runs well only on fruits, starchless vegetables and edible green leaves. Soy and other legumes, according to Ehret's way of thinking, were to be disdained as mucus-producing forbidden foods. Ehret not only condemned protein and fat as "unnatural" but said they could not be used by the body. Inspired by such theories, Jobs appears to have eaten a diet low in both fat and protein for most of his life. And what did he eat instead? Carbs high in fructose.

Whether or not Jobs was in one of his fanatic fruitarian phases, he favored a lot of fruit and fruit juice. These are not only high on the glycemic index, but loaded with fructose. Fruits and fruit juices greatly stress the liver and pancreas, contribute to diabetes and many other blood sugar disorders, and have been linked to pancreatic cancer. Jobs suffered from a type of pancreatic cancer known as islet cell carcinoma, which originates in the insulin-secreting beta cells.

Research published in the November 2007 issue of American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was "evidence for a greater pancreatic cancer risk with a high intake of fruit and juices but not with a high intake of sodas." More recently, in the August 2010 issue of Cancer Research, Dr. Anthony Healy of UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center proposed that aberrant fructose metabolism — and not just aberrant glucose metabolism — might be involved in the pathogenesis of pancreatic cancer. Seems fructose provides the raw material cancer cells prefer to use to make the DNA they need to divide and proliferate. Although the UCLA findings are preliminary and more research needs to be done, the Reuters headline "Cancer Cells Slurp Up Fructose" is fair warning to all of us addicted to fruit and fruit juices, organic or otherwise.

Clearly Jobs broke away from strict veganism from time to time to indulge in a few eggs, salmon and unagi sushi. The words of his daughter Lisa (quoted above) provide a moving testimony to how well Jobs's body and mind responded to eating eel, a fish rich in protein and fat. That said, vegans who would like to think Jobs became sick because he failed to be "perfect vegan" now have evidence to support that belief.






 
<var [/IMG]</var>Here is a interesting article on how to id GMO foods at the market:     http://blog.friendseat.com/how-to-id-ge ... upermarket   Not many consumers realize that the FDA does not require genetically modified food to be labeled. That’s because the FDA has decided that you, dear consumer, don’t care if the tomato you’re eating has been cross bred with frog genes to render the tomato more resistant to cold weather. Some consumers may not be concerned with eating Frankenfood, but for those who are, here’s how to determine if the fruits and vegetables you’re buying are (GM) genetically modified.
Hat tip to Marion Owen for her valuable information.

Here’s how it works:
For conventionally grown fruit, (grown with chemicals inputs), the PLU code on the sticker consists of four numbers.

Organically grown fruit has a five-numeral PLU prefaced by the number 9.

Genetically engineered (GM) fruit has a five-numeral PLU prefaced by the number 8.

For example:

A conventionally grown banana would be: 4011

An organic banana would be: 94011

A genetically engineered (GE or GMO) banana would be: 84011

These tips are specially important now that over 80% of all processed foods in the US are genetically modified. Many countries in the European Union have been banning GM products and produce (including Austria, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary and Luxembourg). We say “Eat healthy, buy or grow organic”.
     
From: Mike <misza2@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 7:24:59 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  Exactly.
And gmo corn or others (soya beans) are no safer than factory farmed meat. With all the chemicals put into them during growth on top of that.
What You mentioned: meat and animal fat is the food that human genotype was evolving on. Humans were eating grass only when they had to - not because they liked it. Meat and animal fat is The Food :D Provided it's not packed with toxic wastes and is genuine. All the so called authorities practically force a meat free, especially fat free diet on population. Everything is fat free or at least, low fat. And where it did take Us? People following such "advices" eat almost only carbohydrates... Be it in form of factory made sugar or plants. And here we have them, all of the so called civilization diseases: diabetes, high blood pressure to neme just two. All those diseases kill thousands of people each year. That's what we got from trying to be smarter than nature. Human biology cannot be decieved. Not for long. The person that came up with "5 a day" and basically all mainstream dieticians are nothing but criminals.

*sarcasm* A food for thought (darn it did come out nicely :D): isn't it interesting how all the companies, corporations and government run agencies promote that "one and only true and healthy" way of life? They are fanatics of those programs...
Cholesterol has been labelled "evil" and is accused of causing all the mentioned diseases. Animal fat is evil and only plant oils are OK. Carbohydrates are the only way to go. People of the Earth: eat grass and sugar...

Even though it has been proven many times by independent tests and studies (and only those that weren't sponsored by food companies may be considered valid, for obvious reasons) that the sentence above is a load of bollocks and it is in fact the other way around. *sarcasm*

Another proof of jewish conspiracy to kill the Gentiles.

Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War!
/Mike
From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  The v[/IMG]</var>
From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:03:14 AM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  I think of vegetarians as the sexists of food. I love meat, its the point of water meal I'm eating. or sometimes eggs are. but usually meat. matter of fact, I'm about to say hello to the ham in the fridge.
 
To: [email protected]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 00:56:47 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  The long list of people who have ruined their health or literally died from new aged vegan/vegetarian diets is long. Its to the point most of the ideological vegans are only vegan several days a week in private. But seven days a week in public. And the list of jews pushing this is long.

================================================================

http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/kdani ... teve-jobs/

Steve Jobs died October 5, and the animal rights organization PETA stepped right up to honor him as a vegetarian who was deeply committed to animal welfare and the environment. PETA, of course, has yet to acknowledge the role that Jobs's near vegan diet may have played in his death, and continues to maintain that their particular brand of "right eating" will virtually guarantee freedom from cancer and other major health problems.

When I blogged about this topic in October, I promised I would follow up once I learned more about Jobs's dietary habits from Walter Isaacson's biography Steve Jobs (Simon & Schuster, 2011). This column delivers on that promise.

The bullet points below include every reference to diet in the entire book, followed by page numbers. My brief comments are found at the very end.

•Jobs came to appreciate organic fruits and vegetables as a teenager when a neighbor taught him how to be a good organic gardener and to compost. (14)
•Between his sophomore and junior hear of high school, he began smoking marijuana regularly and by his senior year was dabbling in LSD as well as exploring the mind bending effect of sleep deprivation (18-19)
•Toward the end of his senior year in high school, he began his "lifelong experiments with compulsive diets, eating only fruits and vegetables so he was as lean and tight as a whippet" (31)
•He attended the love festivals at the local Hare Krishna temple, and went to the Zen center for free vegetarian meals. (35)
•He was greatly influenced by the book Diet for a Small Planet by Frances Moore Lappe. At that point he swore off meat for good and began embracing extreme diets, which included purges, fasts or eating only one or two foods , such as carrots or apples for weeks on end. (36)
•For awhile at college, Jobs lived on Roman Meal cereal. He would buy a box, which would last a week, then flats of dates, almonds and a lot of carrots. He made carrot juice with a Champion juicer, and at one point turned "a sunset-like orange hue." (36)
•His dietary habits became more obsessive when he read the Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret. Jobs then favored eating nothing but fruits and starchless vegetables, which he said prevented the body from forming harmful mucus, and determined to regularly cleanse his body through prolonged fasts. That meant no more Roman Meal cereal — or any bread, grains, or milk for that matter. At one point, he spent an entire week eating only apples, and then began to try even purer fasts. He started with two day fasts and eventually stretched them out to a week or more, breaking them with large amounts of water and leafy vegetables. "After a week, you start to feel fantastic," he said. "You get a ton of vitality from not having to digest all this food. I was in great shape I felt I could get up and walk to San Francisco anytime I wanted." (36)
•As a $5 an hour technician at Atari, he was known as "a hippie with b.o." and "impossible to deal with." He clung to the belief that his fruit-heavy vegetarian diet would prevent not just mucus but also body odor. As Isaacson writes "It was a flawed theory." (43)
•"He was doing a lot of soul-searching about being adopted . . . (with) the primal scream and the mucusless diets, he was trying to cleanse himself and get deeper into his frustration about his birth." (51)
•He was a fan of the Whole Earth Catalog and particularly taken by the final issue, which came out in 1971 when he was still in high school. On the back cover it said "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." (59)
•The name Apple Computers came to him when he was on one of his fruitarian diets. "I had just come back from the apple farm. It sounded fun, spirited and not intimidating. Apple took the edge off the word `computer.'" (63)
•His mother Clara Jobs didn't mind losing most of her house to piles of computer parts and house guests, but she was frustrated by her son's increasingly quirky diets. She would roll her eyes at his latest eating obsessions. She just wanted him to be healthy, and he would be making weird pronouncements like, "I'm a fruitarian and I will only eat leaves picked by virgins in the moonlight." (68)
•He was still convinced against all evidence that his vegan diet meant that he didn't need to use a deodorant or take regular showers. . . . At meetings people had to look at his dirty feet. Sometimes to relieve stress, he would soak his feet in the toilet. (82)
•A colleague who recommended he bathe more often was told that "in exchange" he would have to read fruitarian diet books. "Steve was adamant that he bathed once a week, and that was adequate as long as he was eating a fruitarian diet." (82-83)
•In 1979 or so he "put aside drugs, eased away from being a strict vegan, and cut back the time he spent on Zen retreats." (91)
•He decreed that the sodas in the office refrigerator be replaced by Odwalla organic orange and carrot juices." (118)
•The kitchen was stocked daily with Odwalla juices (142)
•At the launch of the Lisa computer in 1983, he ate a special vegan meal at the Four Seasons restaurant (152)
•He had edged away from his strict vegan diet for the time being and ate vegetarian omelets. (155)
•In 1984 in Italy, Jobs demanded a vegan meal and became extremely angry when the waiter very elaborately proceeded to dish out a sauce filled with sour cream. (185)
•The meal for his 30th birthday celebration included goat cheese and salmon mousse. (189)
•He had a lot of mannerisms. He bit his nails. His hands were "slightly and inexplicably yellow" and in constant motion. (223)
•At a meal with Mitch Kapor, the chairman of Lotus software, Jobs was horrified to see Kapor slathering butter on his bread, and asked, "Have you ever heard of serum cholesterol?" Kapor responded, "I'll make you a deal. You stay away from commenting on my dietary habits, and I will stay away from the subject of your personality." (224)
•At a 1988 NeXT product launch, the lunch menu included mineral water, croissants, cream cheese, bean sprouts. (233)
•Jobs was a vegetarian and so was Chrisann, the mother of his daughter Lisa. Lisa was not vegetarian, but Jobs was fine with that. "Eating chicken became her little indulgence as she shuttled between two parents who were vegetarians with a spiritual regard for natural foods." Jobs's "dietary fixations came in fanatic waves," and he was "fastidious" about what he ate. Lisa watched him "spit out a mouthful of soup one day after learning that it contained butter." (259-260)
•"Even at a young age Lisa began to realize his diet obsessions reflected a life philosophy, one in which asceticism and minimalism could heighten subsequent sensations. He believed that great harvests came from arid sources, pleasure from restraint. He knew the equations that most people didn't know: Things led to their opposites." (259-260)
•Once he took Lisa on a business trip to Tokyo and they stayed at the Okura Hotel. At the elegant downstairs sushi bar, Jobs ordered large trays of unagi sushi, a dish he loved so much that he allowed the warm cooked eel to pass muster as vegetarian. Lisa later wrote, "It was the first time, I'd felt with him, so relaxed and content, over those trays of meat; the excess, the permission and warmth after the cold salads, meant a once inaccessible space had opened. He was less rigid with himself, even human under the great ceilings with the little chairs with the meat and me." (260-261)
•Jobs had hired a hip young couple who had once worked at Chez Panisse as housekeepers ands vegetarian cooks (264)
•At his wedding to Laurene Powell, the cake was in the shape of Yosemite's Half Dome. It was strictly vegan and more than a few of the guest found it inedible. (274)
•"Since his early teens, he had indulged his weird obsession with extremely restrictive diets and fasts. Even after he married and had children, he retained his dubious eating habits. He would spend weeks eating the same thing — carrot salad with lemon, or just apples — and then suddenly spurn that food and declare that he had stopped eating it. He would go on fasts, just as he did as a teenager and he became sanctimonious as he lectured others at the table on the virtues of whatever eating regimen he was following." (477)
•Jobs's wife, Laurene Powell, had been a vegan when they first married, but after her husband's first cancer operation, the partial Whipple procedure, she began to diversify the family meals with fish and other proteins. Their son, Reed, who had been a vegetarian, became a "hearty omnivore." They knew it was important for Steve to get diverse sources of protein. (477)
•Early in 2008, Jobs's eating disorders got worse. On some nights he would stare at the floor and ignore all of the dishes set out on the long kitchen table. He lost 40 pounds during the spring of 2008.
•Dr James Eason "would even stop at the convenience store to get the energy drinks Jobs liked." (485)
•He remained a finicky eater, which was more of a problem than ever. He would eat only fruit smoothies and he would demand that seven or eight of them be lined up so he could find an option that might satisfy him. He would touch the spoon to his mouth for a tiny taste and pronounce `That's no good. That one's no good either.'" His doctor lectured him: "You know this isn't a matter of taste. Stop thinking of this as food. Start thinking of it as medicine." (486)
•Early in 2010, Jobs went to dinner and ordered a mango smoothie and plain vegan pasta. (505)
•At the launch of the iPad2, Isaacson reported "For a change he was eating, though still with some pickiness. He ordered fresh squeezed juice, which he sent back three times, declaring that each new offering was from a bottle, and a pasta primavera which he shoved away as inedible after one taste. But then he ate half of my crab Louise salad and ordered a full one for himself followed by a bowl of ice cream." (527)
•"Jobs's eating problems were exacerbated over the years by his psychological attitude toward food. When he was young, he learned that he could induce euphoria and ecstasy by fasting. So even though he knew that he should eat — his doctors were begging him to consume high-quality protein –lingering in the back of his subconscious, he admitted was his instinct for fasting and for diets like Arnold Ehret's fruit regimen that he had embraced as a teenager. Powell kept telling him it was crazy. `I wanted him to force himself to eat,' she said `and it was incredibly tense at home.'" (548-549)
•Bryar Brown, their part-time cook, would prepare an array of healthy dishes, but Jobs would touch his tongue to one or two dishes and then dismiss them all as inedible. One evening he announced, "I could probably eat a little pumpkin pie," and the even-tempered Brown created a beautiful pie from scratch in an hour. Jobs ate only one bite, but Brown was thrilled." (549)
•During the final years of his life, Powell talked to eating disorder specialists and psychiatrists to try to get help, but her husband shunned them. (549)
That's it. Not a lot to work with, but more than enough to show a longstanding pattern of eating disorders.

On the plus side, Jobs's diet seems to have been consistently organic and high quality. He employed chefs who'd worked at Chef Panisse, and his wife Laurene Powell founded Terravera, a company that produces ready-to-eat organic meals for stores in northern California. Jobs does not appear to have ever been a junk-food vegan who indulged in all-American junk foods such as soda, chocolate, cookies and crackers.

Soy is not mentioned at all in Isaacson's biography. Although the Apple culture was soy friendly with soy milk readily available in vending machines and at coffee stations, Jobs himself may well have rejected it. Jobs had a longstanding fascination with the book The Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret (1866-1922), who claimed the human body is an "air-gas engine" that runs well only on fruits, starchless vegetables and edible green leaves. Soy and other legumes, according to Ehret's way of thinking, were to be disdained as mucus-producing forbidden foods. Ehret not only condemned protein and fat as "unnatural" but said they could not be used by the body. Inspired by such theories, Jobs appears to have eaten a diet low in both fat and protein for most of his life. And what did he eat instead? Carbs high in fructose.

Whether or not Jobs was in one of his fanatic fruitarian phases, he favored a lot of fruit and fruit juice. These are not only high on the glycemic index, but loaded with fructose. Fruits and fruit juices greatly stress the liver and pancreas, contribute to diabetes and many other blood sugar disorders, and have been linked to pancreatic cancer. Jobs suffered from a type of pancreatic cancer known as islet cell carcinoma, which originates in the insulin-secreting beta cells.

Research published in the November 2007 issue of American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was "evidence for a greater pancreatic cancer risk with a high intake of fruit and juices but not with a high intake of sodas." More recently, in the August 2010 issue of Cancer Research, Dr. Anthony Healy of UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center proposed that aberrant fructose metabolism — and not just aberrant glucose metabolism — might be involved in the pathogenesis of pancreatic cancer. Seems fructose provides the raw material cancer cells prefer to use to make the DNA they need to divide and proliferate. Although the UCLA findings are preliminary and more research needs to be done, the Reuters headline "Cancer Cells Slurp Up Fructose" is fair warning to all of us addicted to fruit and fruit juices, organic or otherwise.

Clearly Jobs broke away from strict veganism from time to time to indulge in a few eggs, salmon and unagi sushi. The words of his daughter Lisa (quoted above) provide a moving testimony to how well Jobs's body and mind responded to eating eel, a fish rich in protein and fat. That said, vegans who would like to think Jobs became sick because he failed to be "perfect vegan" now have evidence to support that belief.








 
..Hail Satan!! THANK YOU so much for this info HP Don, this is valuable knowledge to me. Now i know what to look for.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:

Here is a interesting article on how to id GMO foods at the market:
 
 
http://blog.friendseat.com/how-to-id-ge ... upermarket
 
Not many consumers realize that the FDA does not require genetically modified food to be labeled. That’s because the FDA has decided that you, dear consumer, don’t care if the tomato you’re eating has been cross bred with frog genes to render the tomato more resistant to cold weather. Some consumers may not be concerned with eating Frankenfood, but for those who are, here’s how to determine if the fruits and vegetables you’re buying are (GM) genetically modified.
Hat tip to Marion Owen for her valuable information.

Here’s how it works:
For conventionally grown fruit, (grown with chemicals inputs), the PLU code on the sticker consists of four numbers.

Organically grown fruit has a five-numeral PLU prefaced by the number 9.

Genetically engineered (GM) fruit has a five-numeral PLU prefaced by the number 8.

For example:

A conventionally grown banana would be: 4011

An organic banana would be: 94011

A genetically engineered (GE or GMO) banana would be: 84011

These tips are specially important now that over 80% of all processed foods in the US are genetically modified. Many countries in the European Union have been banning GM products and produce (including Austria, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary and Luxembourg). We say “Eat healthy, buy or grow organic”.
 
 


________________________________
From: Mike <misza2@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 7:24:59 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs


 
Exactly.

And gmo corn or others (soya beans) are no safer than factory farmed meat. With all the chemicals put into them during growth on top of that.

What You mentioned: meat and animal fat is the food that human genotype was evolving on. Humans were eating grass only when they had to - not because they liked it.
Meat and animal fat is The Food :D Provided it's not packed with toxic wastes and is genuine.
All the so called authorities practically force a meat free, especially fat free diet on population. Everything is fat free or at least, low fat. And where it did take Us? People following such "advices" eat almost only carbohydrates... Be it in form of factory made sugar or plants. And here we have them, all of the so called civilization diseases: diabetes, high blood pressure to neme just two. All those diseases kill thousands of people each year. That's what we got from trying to be smarter than nature.
Human biology cannot be decieved. Not for long.
The person that came up with "5 a day" and basically all mainstream dieticians are nothing but criminals.


*sarcasm* A food for thought (darn it did come out nicely :D): isn't it interesting how all the companies, corporations and government run agencies promote that "one and only true and healthy" way of life? They are fanatics of those programs...

Cholesterol has been labelled "evil" and is accused of causing all the mentioned diseases. Animal fat is evil and only plant oils are OK. Carbohydrates are the only way to go. People of the Earth: eat grass and sugar...

Even though it has been proven many times by independent tests and studies (and only those that weren't sponsored by food companies may be considered valid, for obvious reasons) that the sentence above is a load of bollocks and it is in fact the other way around. *sarcasm*

Another proof of jewish conspiracy to kill the Gentiles.


Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War!
/Mike


________________________________
From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs


 
The views of vegetarians fall into two main points. One meat is unhealthy to the body so they avoid it. And two is the ethicial debate of slaughtering of animals for food.
 
The first point is correct is we are looking at factory farmed meat as its loaded with toxic crap, the two major flu viruses that hit N.America came from factory farming operations. If one switches to proper organic meats the first point is cancelled out. The second point is true once again if one looks at the factory farming. But the ethicial animal farms are different and the aspect of killing the animal for food is the way of nature. Beckett studies found plants are just as conscious as animals and react to pain and fear the same way. So the ethic debate is settled. And becomes a matter of bias of what kingdom of life you consider more sentimental about.
 
The fact is only about 15 to 30% of plant protein can be used by the body and its a weak protein. All plant food is missing B12 as well. Without good B12 levels one can go into a coma and die its vital for brain and gut functioning. The whole vegan population has to take B12 supplements to stay alive but very litte  of non-vegan populations have to do this. Then the quality of the synthetic B12 is low.
 
The final fact is humans have been eating meat from what has been traced back to our most earliest know pre human ancestors in the fossil record of 3.4 million years we are adapted for this by millions of years of evolution. And despite the claims of some vegans who like to point to other animals in a natural fallacy attempt. Cows, Horses and others have a different biology and the Chimps they love to point to as our nearest non-human relative of which we split from millions of years ago as vegan eaters. Also eat meat, they eat hunt rival Chimps in packs and kill and eat them.etc


________________________________
From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:03:14 AM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs


 
I think of vegetarians as the sexists of food. I love meat, its the point of water meal I'm eating. or sometimes eggs are. but usually meat. matter of fact, I'm about to say hello to the ham in the fridge.
 


________________________________
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 00:56:47 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

 
The long list of people who have ruined their health or literally died from new aged vegan/vegetarian diets is long. Its to the point most of the ideological vegans are only vegan several days a week in private. But seven days a week in public. And the list of jews pushing this is long.

================================================================

http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/kdani ... teve-jobs/

Steve Jobs died October 5, and the animal rights organization PETA stepped right up to honor him as a vegetarian who was deeply committed to animal welfare and the environment. PETA, of course, has yet to acknowledge the role that Jobs's near vegan diet may have played in his death, and continues to maintain that their particular brand of "right eating" will virtually guarantee freedom from cancer and other major health problems.

When I blogged about this topic in October, I promised I would follow up once I learned more about Jobs's dietary habits from Walter Isaacson's biography Steve Jobs (Simon & Schuster, 2011). This column delivers on that promise.

The bullet points below include every reference to diet in the entire book, followed by page numbers. My brief comments are found at the very end.

•Jobs came to appreciate organic fruits and vegetables as a teenager when a neighbor taught him how to be a good organic gardener and to compost. (14)
•Between his sophomore and junior hear of high school, he began smoking marijuana regularly and by his senior year was dabbling in LSD as well as exploring the mind bending effect of sleep deprivation (18-19)
•Toward the end of his senior year in high school, he began his "lifelong experiments with compulsive diets, eating only fruits and vegetables so he was as lean and tight as a whippet" (31)
•He attended the love festivals at the local Hare Krishna temple, and went to the Zen center for free vegetarian meals. (35)
•He was greatly influenced by the book Diet for a Small Planet by Frances Moore Lappe. At that point he swore off meat for good and began embracing extreme diets, which included purges, fasts or eating only one or two foods , such as carrots or apples for weeks on end. (36)
•For awhile at college, Jobs lived on Roman Meal cereal. He would buy a box, which would last a week, then flats of dates, almonds and a lot of carrots. He made carrot juice with a Champion juicer, and at one point turned "a sunset-like orange hue." (36)
•His dietary habits became more obsessive when he read the Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret. Jobs then favored eating nothing but fruits and starchless vegetables, which he said prevented the body from forming harmful mucus, and determined to regularly cleanse his body through prolonged fasts. That meant no more Roman Meal cereal â€" or any bread, grains, or milk for that matter. At one point, he spent an entire week eating only apples, and then began to try even purer fasts. He started with two day fasts and eventually stretched them out to a week or more, breaking them with large amounts of water and leafy vegetables. "After a week, you start to feel fantastic," he said. "You get a ton of vitality from not having to digest all this food. I was in great shape I felt I could get up and walk to San Francisco anytime I wanted." (36)
•As a $5 an hour technician at Atari, he was known as "a hippie with b.o." and "impossible to deal with." He clung to the belief that his fruit-heavy vegetarian diet would prevent not just mucus but also body odor. As Isaacson writes "It was a flawed theory." (43)
•"He was doing a lot of soul-searching about being adopted . . . (with) the primal scream and the mucusless diets, he was trying to cleanse himself and get deeper into his frustration about his birth." (51)
•He was a fan of the Whole Earth Catalog and particularly taken by the final issue, which came out in 1971 when he was still in high school. On the back cover it said "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." (59)
•The name Apple Computers came to him when he was on one of his fruitarian diets. "I had just come back from the apple farm. It sounded fun, spirited and not intimidating. Apple took the edge off the word `computer.'" (63)
•His mother Clara Jobs didn't mind losing most of her house to piles of computer parts and house guests, but she was frustrated by her son's increasingly quirky diets. She would roll her eyes at his latest eating obsessions. She just wanted him to be healthy, and he would be making weird pronouncements like, "I'm a fruitarian and I will only eat leaves picked by virgins in the moonlight." (68)
•He was still convinced against all evidence that his vegan diet meant that he didn't need to use a deodorant or take regular showers. . . . At meetings people had to look at his dirty feet. Sometimes to relieve stress, he would soak his feet in the toilet. (82)
•A colleague who recommended he bathe more often was told that "in exchange" he would have to read fruitarian diet books. "Steve was adamant that he bathed once a week, and that was adequate as long as he was eating a fruitarian diet." (82-83)
•In 1979 or so he "put aside drugs, eased away from being a strict vegan, and cut back the time he spent on Zen retreats." (91)
•He decreed that the sodas in the office refrigerator be replaced by Odwalla organic orange and carrot juices." (118)
•The kitchen was stocked daily with Odwalla juices (142)
•At the launch of the Lisa computer in 1983, he ate a special vegan meal at the Four Seasons restaurant (152)
•He had edged away from his strict vegan diet for the time being and ate vegetarian omelets. (155)
•In 1984 in Italy, Jobs demanded a vegan meal and became extremely angry when the waiter very elaborately proceeded to dish out a sauce filled with sour cream. (185)
•The meal for his 30th birthday celebration included goat cheese and salmon mousse. (189)
•He had a lot of mannerisms. He bit his nails. His hands were "slightly and inexplicably yellow" and in constant motion. (223)
•At a meal with Mitch Kapor, the chairman of Lotus software, Jobs was horrified to see Kapor slathering butter on his bread, and asked, "Have you ever heard of serum cholesterol?" Kapor responded, "I'll make you a deal. You stay away from commenting on my dietary habits, and I will stay away from the subject of your personality." (224)
•At a 1988 NeXT product launch, the lunch menu included mineral water, croissants, cream cheese, bean sprouts. (233)
•Jobs was a vegetarian and so was Chrisann, the mother of his daughter Lisa. Lisa was not vegetarian, but Jobs was fine with that. "Eating chicken became her little indulgence as she shuttled between two parents who were vegetarians with a spiritual regard for natural foods." Jobs's "dietary fixations came in fanatic waves," and he was "fastidious" about what he ate. Lisa watched him "spit out a mouthful of soup one day after learning that it contained butter." (259-260)
•"Even at a young age Lisa began to realize his diet obsessions reflected a life philosophy, one in which asceticism and minimalism could heighten subsequent sensations. He believed that great harvests came from arid sources, pleasure from restraint. He knew the equations that most people didn't know: Things led to their opposites." (259-260)
•Once he took Lisa on a business trip to Tokyo and they stayed at the Okura Hotel. At the elegant downstairs sushi bar, Jobs ordered large trays of unagi sushi, a dish he loved so much that he allowed the warm cooked eel to pass muster as vegetarian. Lisa later wrote, "It was the first time, I'd felt with him, so relaxed and content, over those trays of meat; the excess, the permission and warmth after the cold salads, meant a once inaccessible space had opened. He was less rigid with himself, even human under the great ceilings with the little chairs with the meat and me." (260-261)
•Jobs had hired a hip young couple who had once worked at Chez Panisse as housekeepers ands vegetarian cooks (264)
•At his wedding to Laurene Powell, the cake was in the shape of Yosemite's Half Dome. It was strictly vegan and more than a few of the guest found it inedible. (274)
•"Since his early teens, he had indulged his weird obsession with extremely restrictive diets and fasts. Even after he married and had children, he retained his dubious eating habits. He would spend weeks eating the same thing â€" carrot salad with lemon, or just apples â€" and then suddenly spurn that food and declare that he had stopped eating it. He would go on fasts, just as he did as a teenager and he became sanctimonious as he lectured others at the table on the virtues of whatever eating regimen he was following." (477)
•Jobs's wife, Laurene Powell, had been a vegan when they first married, but after her husband's first cancer operation, the partial Whipple procedure, she began to diversify the family meals with fish and other proteins. Their son, Reed, who had been a vegetarian, became a "hearty omnivore." They knew it was important for Steve to get diverse sources of protein. (477)
•Early in 2008, Jobs's eating disorders got worse. On some nights he would stare at the floor and ignore all of the dishes set out on the long kitchen table. He lost 40 pounds during the spring of 2008.
•Dr James Eason "would even stop at the convenience store to get the energy drinks Jobs liked." (485)
•He remained a finicky eater, which was more of a problem than ever. He would eat only fruit smoothies and he would demand that seven or eight of them be lined up so he could find an option that might satisfy him. He would touch the spoon to his mouth for a tiny taste and pronounce `That's no good. That one's no good either.'" His doctor lectured him: "You know this isn't a matter of taste. Stop thinking of this as food. Start thinking of it as medicine." (486)
•Early in 2010, Jobs went to dinner and ordered a mango smoothie and plain vegan pasta. (505)
•At the launch of the iPad2, Isaacson reported "For a change he was eating, though still with some pickiness. He ordered fresh squeezed juice, which he sent back three times, declaring that each new offering was from a bottle, and a pasta primavera which he shoved away as inedible after one taste. But then he ate half of my crab Louise salad and ordered a full one for himself followed by a bowl of ice cream." (527)
•"Jobs's eating problems were exacerbated over the years by his psychological attitude toward food. When he was young, he learned that he could induce euphoria and ecstasy by fasting. So even though he knew that he should eat â€" his doctors were begging him to consume high-quality protein â€"lingering in the back of his subconscious, he admitted was his instinct for fasting and for diets like Arnold Ehret's fruit regimen that he had embraced as a teenager. Powell kept telling him it was crazy. `I wanted him to force himself to eat,' she said `and it was incredibly tense at home.'" (548-549)
•Bryar Brown, their part-time cook, would prepare an array of healthy dishes, but Jobs would touch his tongue to one or two dishes and then dismiss them all as inedible. One evening he announced, "I could probably eat a little pumpkin pie," and the even-tempered Brown created a beautiful pie from scratch in an hour. Jobs ate only one bite, but Brown was thrilled." (549)
•During the final years of his life, Powell talked to eating disorder specialists and psychiatrists to try to get help, but her husband shunned them. (549)
That's it. Not a lot to work with, but more than enough to show a longstanding pattern of eating disorders.

On the plus side, Jobs's diet seems to have been consistently organic and high quality. He employed chefs who'd worked at Chef Panisse, and his wife Laurene Powell founded Terravera, a company that produces ready-to-eat organic meals for stores in northern California. Jobs does not appear to have ever been a junk-food vegan who indulged in all-American junk foods such as soda, chocolate, cookies and crackers.

Soy is not mentioned at all in Isaacson's biography. Although the Apple culture was soy friendly with soy milk readily available in vending machines and at coffee stations, Jobs himself may well have rejected it. Jobs had a longstanding fascination with the book The Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret (1866-1922), who claimed the human body is an "air-gas engine" that runs well only on fruits, starchless vegetables and edible green leaves. Soy and other legumes, according to Ehret's way of thinking, were to be disdained as mucus-producing forbidden foods. Ehret not only condemned protein and fat as "unnatural" but said they could not be used by the body. Inspired by such theories, Jobs appears to have eaten a diet low in both fat and protein for most of his life. And what did he eat instead? Carbs high in fructose.

Whether or not Jobs was in one of his fanatic fruitarian phases, he favored a lot of fruit and fruit juice. These are not only high on the glycemic index, but loaded with fructose. Fruits and fruit juices greatly stress the liver and pancreas, contribute to diabetes and many other blood sugar disorders, and have been linked to pancreatic cancer. Jobs suffered from a type of pancreatic cancer known as islet cell carcinoma, which originates in the insulin-secreting beta cells.

Research published in the November 2007 issue of American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was "evidence for a greater pancreatic cancer risk with a high intake of fruit and juices but not with a high intake of sodas." More recently, in the August 2010 issue of Cancer Research, Dr. Anthony Healy of UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center proposed that aberrant fructose metabolism â€" and not just aberrant glucose metabolism â€" might be involved in the pathogenesis of pancreatic cancer. Seems fructose provides the raw material cancer cells prefer to use to make the DNA they need to divide and proliferate. Although the UCLA findings are preliminary and more research needs to be done, the Reuters headline "Cancer Cells Slurp Up Fructose" is fair warning to all of us addicted to fruit and fruit juices, organic or otherwise.

Clearly Jobs broke away from strict veganism from time to time to indulge in a few eggs, salmon and unagi sushi. The words of his daughter Lisa (quoted above) provide a moving testimony to how well Jobs's body and mind responded to eating eel, a fish rich in protein and fat. That said, vegans who would like to think Jobs became sick because he failed to be "perfect vegan" now have evidence to support that belief.
 
Milk thistle? my liver could definetly use some healing. I'll check into Deer antler. tks.
Hail Satan!
 

To: [email protected]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 22:31:29 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  Whey is what I would call the great mystery product. Who really knows all what goes in to it all? I have found in some cases it just sat badly when I drank stuff with it as part. Since your in to gain I would check in to Deer Antler its been called natures answer to steroids by one herbalist and weight lifter [Truth Calkin's]. Its an interesting product from experience. But you have find a good brand. I remember Creatine some people almost died from taking it. The jews love to sell all kinds of crap to the health and fitness world.   Plant proteins some plants are higher then others, but still a weak protien in general. I once went around two months living on raw plant food and I was taking what was stated to be the highest protein plant food twice a day. And I still ending with mild deficiency in protein. I know some vegans state to eat nuts to help but nuts are a tricky situation as they have a special coding on them to keep them from being digested. One has to soak them for up to a day to break it down first. And then its still not the best as a sole source.   The most power plant food [ and plant food is powerful for healing and regeneration it has its place in nature] is growing wild in many peoples lawns, parks.etc But you have to know what you picking. An example is wild carrot looks very identical to another plant that is pure posion for humans. And I would never recommend mushroom hunting either all it takes is one mistake as in one case  almost an entire family died from eating them as part of dinner.   Its a bit off topic but the death angel mushroom which is supposed to have no known cure. Milk Thisle can cure this from statements by herbalist's as its the most powerful agent for healing the liver. Which shows the powerful of wilf plant [not domesticated] foods in their right place.
From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:28:54 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  I agree with your statements absolutely. I am surprised that plants react to fear and pain. once again, you have provided me with something to research in my spare time. So, you say only 15 to 30% of plant protein can be used by the body, now I have to ask, is the percentage in reference to different types of plant proteins or... well that seem to be the most likely so I'm just going to end the question there. I buy whey protein with a bunch of various amino acids, to help with muscle gaining. I also eat meat at least once a day. whatchu think about whey protein for working out? It has a ton of people endorsing it, but, well, I know all too well how the jew works.
 
To: [email protected]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 14:44:59 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  The views of vegetarians fall into two main points. One meat is unhealthy to the body so they avoid it. And two is the ethicial debate of slaughtering of animals for food.   The first point is correct is we are looking at factory farmed meat as its loaded with toxic crap, the two major flu viruses that hit N.America came from factory farming operations. If one switches to proper organic meats the first point is cancelled out. The second point is true once again if one looks at the factory farming. But the ethicial animal farms are different and the aspect of killing the animal for food is the way of nature. Beckett studies found plants are just as conscious as animals and react to pain and fear the same way. So the ethic debate is settled. And becomes a matter of bias of what kingdom of life you consider more sentimental about.   The fact is only about 15 to 30% of plant protein can be used by the body and its a weak protein. All plant food is missing B12 as well. Without good B12 levels one can go into a coma and die its vital for brain and gut functioning. The whole vegan population has to take B12 supplements to stay alive but very litte  of non-vegan populations have to do this. Then the quality of the synthetic B12 is low.   The final fact is humans have been eating meat from what has been traced back to our most earliest know pre human ancestors in the fossil record of 3.4 million years we are adapted for this by millions of years of evolution. And despite the claims of some vegans who like to point to other animals in a natural fallacy attempt. Cows, Horses and others have a different biology and the Chimps they love to point to as our nearest non-human relative of which we split from millions of years ago as vegan eaters. Also eat meat, they eat hunt rival Chimps in packs and kill and eat them.etc
From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:03:14 AM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  I think of vegetarians as the sexists of food. I love meat, its the point of water meal I'm eating. or sometimes eggs are. but usually meat. matter of fact, I'm about to say hello to the ham in the fridge.
 
To: [email protected]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 00:56:47 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  The long list of people who have ruined their health or literally died from new aged vegan/vegetarian diets is long. Its to the point most of the ideological vegans are only vegan several days a week in private. But seven days a week in public. And the list of jews pushing this is long.

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http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/kdani ... teve-jobs/

Steve Jobs died October 5, and the animal rights organization PETA stepped right up to honor him as a vegetarian who was deeply committed to animal welfare and the environment. PETA, of course, has yet to acknowledge the role that Jobs's near vegan diet may have played in his death, and continues to maintain that their particular brand of "right eating" will virtually guarantee freedom from cancer and other major health problems.

When I blogged about this topic in October, I promised I would follow up once I learned more about Jobs's dietary habits from Walter Isaacson's biography Steve Jobs (Simon & Schuster, 2011). This column delivers on that promise.

The bullet points below include every reference to diet in the entire book, followed by page numbers. My brief comments are found at the very end.

•Jobs came to appreciate organic fruits and vegetables as a teenager when a neighbor taught him how to be a good organic gardener and to compost. (14)
•Between his sophomore and junior hear of high school, he began smoking marijuana regularly and by his senior year was dabbling in LSD as well as exploring the mind bending effect of sleep deprivation (18-19)
•Toward the end of his senior year in high school, he began his "lifelong experiments with compulsive diets, eating only fruits and vegetables so he was as lean and tight as a whippet" (31)
•He attended the love festivals at the local Hare Krishna temple, and went to the Zen center for free vegetarian meals. (35)
•He was greatly influenced by the book Diet for a Small Planet by Frances Moore Lappe. At that point he swore off meat for good and began embracing extreme diets, which included purges, fasts or eating only one or two foods , such as carrots or apples for weeks on end. (36)
•For awhile at college, Jobs lived on Roman Meal cereal. He would buy a box, which would last a week, then flats of dates, almonds and a lot of carrots. He made carrot juice with a Champion juicer, and at one point turned "a sunset-like orange hue." (36)
•His dietary habits became more obsessive when he read the Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret. Jobs then favored eating nothing but fruits and starchless vegetables, which he said prevented the body from forming harmful mucus, and determined to regularly cleanse his body through prolonged fasts. That meant no more Roman Meal cereal — or any bread, grains, or milk for that matter. At one point, he spent an entire week eating only apples, and then began to try even purer fasts. He started with two day fasts and eventually stretched them out to a week or more, breaking them with large amounts of water and leafy vegetables. "After a week, you start to feel fantastic," he said. "You get a ton of vitality from not having to digest all this food. I was in great shape I felt I could get up and walk to San Francisco anytime I wanted." (36)
•As a $5 an hour technician at Atari, he was known as "a hippie with b.o." and "impossible to deal with." He clung to the belief that his fruit-heavy vegetarian diet would prevent not just mucus but also body odor. As Isaacson writes "It was a flawed theory." (43)
•"He was doing a lot of soul-searching about being adopted . . . (with) the primal scream and the mucusless diets, he was trying to cleanse himself and get deeper into his frustration about his birth." (51)
•He was a fan of the Whole Earth Catalog and particularly taken by the final issue, which came out in 1971 when he was still in high school. On the back cover it said "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." (59)
•The name Apple Computers came to him when he was on one of his fruitarian diets. "I had just come back from the apple farm. It sounded fun, spirited and not intimidating. Apple took the edge off the word `computer.'" (63)
•His mother Clara Jobs didn't mind losing most of her house to piles of computer parts and house guests, but she was frustrated by her son's increasingly quirky diets. She would roll her eyes at his latest eating obsessions. She just wanted him to be healthy, and he would be making weird pronouncements like, "I'm a fruitarian and I will only eat leaves picked by virgins in the moonlight." (68)
•He was still convinced against all evidence that his vegan diet meant that he didn't need to use a deodorant or take regular showers. . . . At meetings people had to look at his dirty feet. Sometimes to relieve stress, he would soak his feet in the toilet. (82)
•A colleague who recommended he bathe more often was told that "in exchange" he would have to read fruitarian diet books. "Steve was adamant that he bathed once a week, and that was adequate as long as he was eating a fruitarian diet." (82-83)
•In 1979 or so he "put aside drugs, eased away from being a strict vegan, and cut back the time he spent on Zen retreats." (91)
•He decreed that the sodas in the office refrigerator be replaced by Odwalla organic orange and carrot juices." (118)
•The kitchen was stocked daily with Odwalla juices (142)
•At the launch of the Lisa computer in 1983, he ate a special vegan meal at the Four Seasons restaurant (152)
•He had edged away from his strict vegan diet for the time being and ate vegetarian omelets. (155)
•In 1984 in Italy, Jobs demanded a vegan meal and became extremely angry when the waiter very elaborately proceeded to dish out a sauce filled with sour cream. (185)
•The meal for his 30th birthday celebration included goat cheese and salmon mousse. (189)
•He had a lot of mannerisms. He bit his nails. His hands were "slightly and inexplicably yellow" and in constant motion. (223)
•At a meal with Mitch Kapor, the chairman of Lotus software, Jobs was horrified to see Kapor slathering butter on his bread, and asked, "Have you ever heard of serum cholesterol?" Kapor responded, "I'll make you a deal. You stay away from commenting on my dietary habits, and I will stay away from the subject of your personality." (224)
•At a 1988 NeXT product launch, the lunch menu included mineral water, croissants, cream cheese, bean sprouts. (233)
•Jobs was a vegetarian and so was Chrisann, the mother of his daughter Lisa. Lisa was not vegetarian, but Jobs was fine with that. "Eating chicken became her little indulgence as she shuttled between two parents who were vegetarians with a spiritual regard for natural foods." Jobs's "dietary fixations came in fanatic waves," and he was "fastidious" about what he ate. Lisa watched him "spit out a mouthful of soup one day after learning that it contained butter." (259-260)
•"Even at a young age Lisa began to realize his diet obsessions reflected a life philosophy, one in which asceticism and minimalism could heighten subsequent sensations. He believed that great harvests came from arid sources, pleasure from restraint. He knew the equations that most people didn't know: Things led to their opposites." (259-260)
•Once he took Lisa on a business trip to Tokyo and they stayed at the Okura Hotel. At the elegant downstairs sushi bar, Jobs ordered large trays of unagi sushi, a dish he loved so much that he allowed the warm cooked eel to pass muster as vegetarian. Lisa later wrote, "It was the first time, I'd felt with him, so relaxed and content, over those trays of meat; the excess, the permission and warmth after the cold salads, meant a once inaccessible space had opened. He was less rigid with himself, even human under the great ceilings with the little chairs with the meat and me." (260-261)
•Jobs had hired a hip young couple who had once worked at Chez Panisse as housekeepers ands vegetarian cooks (264)
•At his wedding to Laurene Powell, the cake was in the shape of Yosemite's Half Dome. It was strictly vegan and more than a few of the guest found it inedible. (274)
•"Since his early teens, he had indulged his weird obsession with extremely restrictive diets and fasts. Even after he married and had children, he retained his dubious eating habits. He would spend weeks eating the same thing — carrot salad with lemon, or just apples — and then suddenly spurn that food and declare that he had stopped eating it. He would go on fasts, just as he did as a teenager and he became sanctimonious as he lectured others at the table on the virtues of whatever eating regimen he was following." (477)
•Jobs's wife, Laurene Powell, had been a vegan when they first married, but after her husband's first cancer operation, the partial Whipple procedure, she began to diversify the family meals with fish and other proteins. Their son, Reed, who had been a vegetarian, became a "hearty omnivore." They knew it was important for Steve to get diverse sources of protein. (477)
•Early in 2008, Jobs's eating disorders got worse. On some nights he would stare at the floor and ignore all of the dishes set out on the long kitchen table. He lost 40 pounds during the spring of 2008.
•Dr James Eason "would even stop at the convenience store to get the energy drinks Jobs liked." (485)
•He remained a finicky eater, which was more of a problem than ever. He would eat only fruit smoothies and he would demand that seven or eight of them be lined up so he could find an option that might satisfy him. He would touch the spoon to his mouth for a tiny taste and pronounce `That's no good. That one's no good either.'" His doctor lectured him: "You know this isn't a matter of taste. Stop thinking of this as food. Start thinking of it as medicine." (486)
•Early in 2010, Jobs went to dinner and ordered a mango smoothie and plain vegan pasta. (505)
•At the launch of the iPad2, Isaacson reported "For a change he was eating, though still with some pickiness. He ordered fresh squeezed juice, which he sent back three times, declaring that each new offering was from a bottle, and a pasta primavera which he shoved away as inedible after one taste. But then he ate half of my crab Louise salad and ordered a full one for himself followed by a bowl of ice cream." (527)
•"Jobs's eating problems were exacerbated over the years by his psychological attitude toward food. When he was young, he learned that he could induce euphoria and ecstasy by fasting. So even though he knew that he should eat — his doctors were begging him to consume high-quality protein –lingering in the back of his subconscious, he admitted was his instinct for fasting and for diets like Arnold Ehret's fruit regimen that he had embraced as a teenager. Powell kept telling him it was crazy. `I wanted him to force himself to eat,' she said `and it was incredibly tense at home.'" (548-549)
•Bryar Brown, their part-time cook, would prepare an array of healthy dishes, but Jobs would touch his tongue to one or two dishes and then dismiss them all as inedible. One evening he announced, "I could probably eat a little pumpkin pie," and the even-tempered Brown created a beautiful pie from scratch in an hour. Jobs ate only one bite, but Brown was thrilled." (549)
•During the final years of his life, Powell talked to eating disorder specialists and psychiatrists to try to get help, but her husband shunned them. (549)
That's it. Not a lot to work with, but more than enough to show a longstanding pattern of eating disorders.

On the plus side, Jobs's diet seems to have been consistently organic and high quality. He employed chefs who'd worked at Chef Panisse, and his wife Laurene Powell founded Terravera, a company that produces ready-to-eat organic meals for stores in northern California. Jobs does not appear to have ever been a junk-food vegan who indulged in all-American junk foods such as soda, chocolate, cookies and crackers.

Soy is not mentioned at all in Isaacson's biography. Although the Apple culture was soy friendly with soy milk readily available in vending machines and at coffee stations, Jobs himself may well have rejected it. Jobs had a longstanding fascination with the book The Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret (1866-1922), who claimed the human body is an "air-gas engine" that runs well only on fruits, starchless vegetables and edible green leaves. Soy and other legumes, according to Ehret's way of thinking, were to be disdained as mucus-producing forbidden foods. Ehret not only condemned protein and fat as "unnatural" but said they could not be used by the body. Inspired by such theories, Jobs appears to have eaten a diet low in both fat and protein for most of his life. And what did he eat instead? Carbs high in fructose.

Whether or not Jobs was in one of his fanatic fruitarian phases, he favored a lot of fruit and fruit juice. These are not only high on the glycemic index, but loaded with fructose. Fruits and fruit juices greatly stress the liver and pancreas, contribute to diabetes and many other blood sugar disorders, and have been linked to pancreatic cancer. Jobs suffered from a type of pancreatic cancer known as islet cell carcinoma, which originates in the insulin-secreting beta cells.

Research published in the November 2007 issue of American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was "evidence for a greater pancreatic cancer risk with a high intake of fruit and juices but not with a high intake of sodas." More recently, in the August 2010 issue of Cancer Research, Dr. Anthony Healy of UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center proposed that aberrant fructose metabolism — and not just aberrant glucose metabolism — might be involved in the pathogenesis of pancreatic cancer. Seems fructose provides the raw material cancer cells prefer to use to make the DNA they need to divide and proliferate. Although the UCLA findings are preliminary and more research needs to be done, the Reuters headline "Cancer Cells Slurp Up Fructose" is fair warning to all of us addicted to fruit and fruit juices, organic or otherwise.

Clearly Jobs broke away from strict veganism from time to time to indulge in a few eggs, salmon and unagi sushi. The words of his daughter Lisa (quoted above) provide a moving testimony to how well Jobs's body and mind responded to eating eel, a fish rich in protein and fat. That said, vegans who would like to think Jobs became sick because he failed to be "perfect vegan" now have evidence to support that belief.








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 on the subject of unhealthy foods and people, my girl told me that theres a girl in her pregnancy class who said,"oh we dont buy fresh food it will just go bad, we just eat junk food," I really feel sorry for that kid. and I really do care about frog genes in my apples or w/e. maybe, if I were eating, per say, a frog, I wouldnt mind the frog genes, but definetly not in anything other than a frog. I think we should ban all unorganic produce, fish and meats, and fast food for that matter. I've been working to get more people aware about water flouridation lately, too.

To: [email protected]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 09:10:30 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

 
Here is a interesting article on how to id GMO foods at the market:     http://blog.friendseat.com/how-to-id-ge ... upermarket   Not many consumers realize that the FDA does not require genetically modified food to be labeled. That’s because the FDA has decided that you, dear consumer, don’t care if the tomato you’re eating has been cross bred with frog genes to render the tomato more resistant to cold weather. Some consumers may not be concerned with eating Frankenfood, but for those who are, here’s how to determine if the fruits and vegetables you’re buying are (GM) genetically modified.
Hat tip to Marion Owen for her valuable information.

Here’s how it works:
For conventionally grown fruit, (grown with chemicals inputs), the PLU code on the sticker consists of four numbers.

Organically grown fruit has a five-numeral PLU prefaced by the number 9.

Genetically engineered (GM) fruit has a five-numeral PLU prefaced by the number 8.

For example:

A conventionally grown banana would be: 4011

An organic banana would be: 94011

A genetically engineered (GE or GMO) banana would be: 84011

These tips are specially important now that over 80% of all processed foods in the US are genetically modified. Many countries in the European Union have been banning GM products and produce (including Austria, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary and Luxembourg). We say “Eat healthy, buy or grow organic”.
     
From: Mike <misza2@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 7:24:59 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  Exactly.
And gmo corn or others (soya beans) are no safer than factory farmed meat. With all the chemicals put into them during growth on top of that.
What You mentioned: meat and animal fat is the food that human genotype was evolving on. Humans were eating grass only when they had to - not because they liked it. Meat and animal fat is The Food :D Provided it's not packed with toxic wastes and is genuine. All the so called authorities practically force a meat free, especially fat free diet on population. Everything is fat free or at least, low fat. And where it did take Us? People following such "advices" eat almost only carbohydrates... Be it in form of factory made sugar or plants. And here we have them, all of the so called civilization diseases: diabetes, high blood pressure to neme just two. All those diseases kill thousands of people each year. That's what we got from trying to be smarter than nature. Human biology cannot be decieved. Not for long. The person that came up with "5 a day" and basically all mainstream dieticians are nothing but criminals.

*sarcasm* A food for thought (darn it did come out nicely :D): isn't it interesting how all the companies, corporations and government run agencies promote that "one and only true and healthy" way of life? They are fanatics of those programs...
Cholesterol has been labelled "evil" and is accused of causing all the mentioned diseases. Animal fat is evil and only plant oils are OK. Carbohydrates are the only way to go. People of the Earth: eat grass and sugar...

Even though it has been proven many times by independent tests and studies (and only those that weren't sponsored by food companies may be considered valid, for obvious reasons) that the sentence above is a load of bollocks and it is in fact the other way around. *sarcasm*

Another proof of jewish conspiracy to kill the Gentiles.

Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War!
/Mike
From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  The views of vegetarians fall into two main points. One meat is unhealthy to the body so they avoid it. And two is the ethicial debate of slaughtering of animals for food.   The first point is correct is we are looking at factory farmed meat as its loaded with toxic crap, the two major flu viruses that hit N.America came from factory farming operations. If one switches to proper organic meats the first point is cancelled out. The second point is true once again if one looks at the factory farming. But the ethicial animal farms are different and the aspect of killing the animal for food is the way of nature. Beckett studies found plants are just as conscious as animals and react to pain and fear the same way. So the ethic debate is settled. And becomes a matter of bias of what kingdom of life you consider more sentimental about.   The fact is only about 15 to 30% of plant protein can be used by the body and its a weak protein. All plant food is missing B12 as well. Without good B12 levels one can go into a coma and die its vital for brain and gut functioning. The whole vegan population has to take B12 supplements to stay alive but very litte  of non-vegan populations have to do this. Then the quality of the synthetic B12 is low.   The final fact is humans have been eating meat from what has been traced back to our most earliest know pre human ancestors in the fossil record of 3.4 million years we are adapted for this by millions of years of evolution. And despite the claims of some vegans who like to point to other animals in a natural fallacy attempt. Cows, Horses and others have a different biology and the Chimps they love to point to as our nearest non-human relative of which we split from millions of years ago as vegan eaters. Also eat meat, they eat hunt rival Chimps in packs and kill and eat them.etc
From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:03:14 AM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  I think of vegetarians as the sexists of food. I love meat, its the point of water meal I'm eating. or sometimes eggs are. but usually meat. matter of fact, I'm about to say hello to the ham in the fridge.
 
To: [email protected]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 00:56:47 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  The long list of people who have ruined their health or literally died from new aged vegan/vegetarian diets is long. Its to the point most of the ideological vegans are only vegan several days a week in private. But seven days a week in public. And the list of jews pushing this is long.

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http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/kdani ... teve-jobs/

Steve Jobs died October 5, and the animal rights organization PETA stepped right up to honor him as a vegetarian who was deeply committed to animal welfare and the environment. PETA, of course, has yet to acknowledge the role that Jobs's near vegan diet may have played in his death, and continues to maintain that their particular brand of "right eating" will virtually guarantee freedom from cancer and other major health problems.

When I blogged about this topic in October, I promised I would follow up once I learned more about Jobs's dietary habits from Walter Isaacson's biography Steve Jobs (Simon & Schuster, 2011). This column delivers on that promise.

The bullet points below include every reference to diet in the entire book, followed by page numbers. My brief comments are found at the very end.

•Jobs came to appreciate organic fruits and vegetables as a teenager when a neighbor taught him how to be a good organic gardener and to compost. (14)
•Between his sophomore and junior hear of high school, he began smoking marijuana regularly and by his senior year was dabbling in LSD as well as exploring the mind bending effect of sleep deprivation (18-19)
•Toward the end of his senior year in high school, he began his "lifelong experiments with compulsive diets, eating only fruits and vegetables so he was as lean and tight as a whippet" (31)
•He attended the love festivals at the local Hare Krishna temple, and went to the Zen center for free vegetarian meals. (35)
•He was greatly influenced by the book Diet for a Small Planet by Frances Moore Lappe. At that point he swore off meat for good and began embracing extreme diets, which included purges, fasts or eating only one or two foods , such as carrots or apples for weeks on end. (36)
•For awhile at college, Jobs lived on Roman Meal cereal. He would buy a box, which would last a week, then flats of dates, almonds and a lot of carrots. He made carrot juice with a Champion juicer, and at one point turned "a sunset-like orange hue." (36)
•His dietary habits became more obsessive when he read the Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret. Jobs then favored eating nothing but fruits and starchless vegetables, which he said prevented the body from forming harmful mucus, and determined to regularly cleanse his body through prolonged fasts. That meant no more Roman Meal cereal — or any bread, grains, or milk for that matter. At one point, he spent an entire week eating only apples, and then began to try even purer fasts. He started with two day fasts and eventually stretched them out to a week or more, breaking them with large amounts of water and leafy vegetables. "After a week, you start to feel fantastic," he said. "You get a ton of vitality from not having to digest all this food. I was in great shape I felt I could get up and walk to San Francisco anytime I wanted." (36)
•As a $5 an hour technician at Atari, he was known as "a hippie with b.o." and "impossible to deal with." He clung to the belief that his fruit-heavy vegetarian diet would prevent not just mucus but also body odor. As Isaacson writes "It was a flawed theory." (43)
•"He was doing a lot of soul-searching about being adopted . . . (with) the primal scream and the mucusless diets, he was trying to cleanse himself and get deeper into his frustration about his birth." (51)
•He was a fan of the Whole Earth Catalog and particularly taken by the final issue, which came out in 1971 when he was still in high school. On the back cover it said "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." (59)
•The name Apple Computers came to him when he was on one of his fruitarian diets. "I had just come back from the apple farm. It sounded fun, spirited and not intimidating. Apple took the edge off the word `computer.'" (63)
•His mother Clara Jobs didn't mind losing most of her house to piles of computer parts and house guests, but she was frustrated by her son's increasingly quirky diets. She would roll her eyes at his latest eating obsessions. She just wanted him to be healthy, and he would be making weird pronouncements like, "I'm a fruitarian and I will only eat leaves picked by virgins in the moonlight." (68)
•He was still convinced against all evidence that his vegan diet meant that he didn't need to use a deodorant or take regular showers. . . . At meetings people had to look at his dirty feet. Sometimes to relieve stress, he would soak his feet in the toilet. (82)
•A colleague who recommended he bathe more often was told that "in exchange" he would have to read fruitarian diet books. "Steve was adamant that he bathed once a week, and that was adequate as long as he was eating a fruitarian diet." (82-83)
•In 1979 or so he "put aside drugs, eased away from being a strict vegan, and cut back the time he spent on Zen retreats." (91)
•He decreed that the sodas in the office refrigerator be replaced by Odwalla organic orange and carrot juices." (118)
•The kitchen was stocked daily with Odwalla juices (142)
•At the launch of the Lisa computer in 1983, he ate a special vegan meal at the Four Seasons restaurant (152)
•He had edged away from his strict vegan diet for the time being and ate vegetarian omelets. (155)
•In 1984 in Italy, Jobs demanded a vegan meal and became extremely angry when the waiter very elaborately proceeded to dish out a sauce filled with sour cream. (185)
•The meal for his 30th birthday celebration included goat cheese and salmon mousse. (189)
•He had a lot of mannerisms. He bit his nails. His hands were "slightly and inexplicably yellow" and in constant motion. (223)
•At a meal with Mitch Kapor, the chairman of Lotus software, Jobs was horrified to see Kapor slathering butter on his bread, and asked, "Have you ever heard of serum cholesterol?" Kapor responded, "I'll make you a deal. You stay away from commenting on my dietary habits, and I will stay away from the subject of your personality." (224)
•At a 1988 NeXT product launch, the lunch menu included mineral water, croissants, cream cheese, bean sprouts. (233)
•Jobs was a vegetarian and so was Chrisann, the mother of his daughter Lisa. Lisa was not vegetarian, but Jobs was fine with that. "Eating chicken became her little indulgence as she shuttled between two parents who were vegetarians with a spiritual regard for natural foods." Jobs's "dietary fixations came in fanatic waves," and he was "fastidious" about what he ate. Lisa watched him "spit out a mouthful of soup one day after learning that it contained butter." (259-260)
•"Even at a young age Lisa began to realize his diet obsessions reflected a life philosophy, one in which asceticism and minimalism could heighten subsequent sensations. He believed that great harvests came from arid sources, pleasure from restraint. He knew the equations that most people didn't know: Things led to their opposites." (259-260)
•Once he took Lisa on a business trip to Tokyo and they stayed at the Okura Hotel. At the elegant downstairs sushi bar, Jobs ordered large trays of unagi sushi, a dish he loved so much that he allowed the warm cooked eel to pass muster as vegetarian. Lisa later wrote, "It was the first time, I'd felt with him, so relaxed and content, over those trays of meat; the excess, the permission and warmth after the cold salads, meant a once inaccessible space had opened. He was less rigid with himself, even human under the great ceilings with the little chairs with the meat and me." (260-261)
•Jobs had hired a hip young couple who had once worked at Chez Panisse as housekeepers ands vegetarian cooks (264)
•At his wedding to Laurene Powell, the cake was in the shape of Yosemite's Half Dome. It was strictly vegan and more than a few of the guest found it inedible. (274)
•"Since his early teens, he had indulged his weird obsession with extremely restrictive diets and fasts. Even after he married and had children, he retained his dubious eating habits. He would spend weeks eating the same thing — carrot salad with lemon, or just apples — and then suddenly spurn that food and declare that he had stopped eating it. He would go on fasts, just as he did as a teenager and he became sanctimonious as he lectured others at the table on the virtues of whatever eating regimen he was following." (477)
•Jobs's wife, Laurene Powell, had been a vegan when they first married, but after her husband's first cancer operation, the partial Whipple procedure, she began to diversify the family meals with fish and other proteins. Their son, Reed, who had been a vegetarian, became a "hearty omnivore." They knew it was important for Steve to get diverse sources of protein. (477)
•Early in 2008, Jobs's eating disorders got worse. On some nights he would stare at the floor and ignore all of the dishes set out on the long kitchen table. He lost 40 pounds during the spring of 2008.
•Dr James Eason "would even stop at the convenience store to get the energy drinks Jobs liked." (485)
•He remained a finicky eater, which was more of a problem than ever. He would eat only fruit smoothies and he would demand that seven or eight of them be lined up so he could find an option that might satisfy him. He would touch the spoon to his mouth for a tiny taste and pronounce `That's no good. That one's no good either.'" His doctor lectured him: "You know this isn't a matter of taste. Stop thinking of this as food. Start thinking of it as medicine." (486)
•Early in 2010, Jobs went to dinner and ordered a mango smoothie and plain vegan pasta. (505)
•At the launch of the iPad2, Isaacson reported "For a change he was eating, though still with some pickiness. He ordered fresh squeezed juice, which he sent back three times, declaring that each new offering was from a bottle, and a pasta primavera which he shoved away as inedible after one taste. But then he ate half of my crab Louise salad and ordered a full one for himself followed by a bowl of ice cream." (527)
•"Jobs's eating problems were exacerbated over the years by his psychological attitude toward food. When he was young, he learned that he could induce euphoria and ecstasy by fasting. So even though he knew that he should eat — his doctors were begging him to consume high-quality protein –lingering in the back of his subconscious, he admitted was his instinct for fasting and for diets like Arnold Ehret's fruit regimen that he had embraced as a teenager. Powell kept telling him it was crazy. `I wanted him to force himself to eat,' she said `and it was incredibly tense at home.'" (548-549)
•Bryar Brown, their part-time cook, would prepare an array of healthy dishes, but Jobs would touch his tongue to one or two dishes and then dismiss them all as inedible. One evening he announced, "I could probably eat a little pumpkin pie," and the even-tempered Brown created a beautiful pie from scratch in an hour. Jobs ate only one bite, but Brown was thrilled." (549)
•During the final years of his life, Powell talked to eating disorder specialists and psychiatrists to try to get help, but her husband shunned them. (549)
That's it. Not a lot to work with, but more than enough to show a longstanding pattern of eating disorders.

On the plus side, Jobs's diet seems to have been consistently organic and high quality. He employed chefs who'd worked at Chef Panisse, and his wife Laurene Powell founded Terravera, a company that produces ready-to-eat organic meals for stores in northern California. Jobs does not appear to have ever been a junk-food vegan who indulged in all-American junk foods such as soda, chocolate, cookies and crackers.

Soy is not mentioned at all in Isaacson's biography. Although the Apple culture was soy friendly with soy milk readily available in vending machines and at coffee stations, Jobs himself may well have rejected it. Jobs had a longstanding fascination with the book The Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret (1866-1922), who claimed the human body is an "air-gas engine" that runs well only on fruits, starchless vegetables and edible green leaves. Soy and other legumes, according to Ehret's way of thinking, were to be disdained as mucus-producing forbidden foods. Ehret not only condemned protein and fat as "unnatural" but said they could not be used by the body. Inspired by such theories, Jobs appears to have eaten a diet low in both fat and protein for most of his life. And what did he eat instead? Carbs high in fructose.

Whether or not Jobs was in one of his fanatic fruitarian phases, he favored a lot of fruit and fruit juice. These are not only high on the glycemic index, but loaded with fructose. Fruits and fruit juices greatly stress the liver and pancreas, contribute to diabetes and many other blood sugar disorders, and have been linked to pancreatic cancer. Jobs suffered from a type of pancreatic cancer known as islet cell carcinoma, which originates in the insulin-secreting beta cells.

Research published in the November 2007 issue of American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was "evidence for a greater pancreatic cancer risk with a high intake of fruit and juices but not with a high intake of sodas." More recently, in the August 2010 issue of Cancer Research, Dr. Anthony Healy of UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center proposed that aberrant fructose metabolism — and not just aberrant glucose metabolism — might be involved in the pathogenesis of pancreatic cancer. Seems fructose provides the raw material cancer cells prefer to use to make the DNA they need to divide and proliferate. Although the UCLA findings are preliminary and more research needs to be done, the Reuters headline "Cancer Cells Slurp Up Fructose" is fair warning to all of us addicted to fruit and fruit juices, organic or otherwise.

Clearly Jobs broke away from strict veganism from time to time to indulge in a few eggs, salmon and unagi sushi. The words of his daughter Lisa (quoted above) provide a moving testimony to how well Jobs's body and mind responded to eating eel, a fish rich in protein and fat. That said, vegans who would like to think Jobs became sick because he failed to be "perfect vegan" now have evidence to support that belief.
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Hey, thanks for the link and response.Gotta check that one out.I don't eat/buy vegetables and fruts so this particular example won't affect me but I'm sure many will find it very helpful :DI do have to check meat more carefully now I know what to look for.
Of course FDA knows better what is good for people; after all the general population are idiots and cripples who need to be led by hand for their own good. And no money from different sources were involved. *sigh*It is enough to watch a movie or two about Monsanto (or Montsano) to know that gmo causes sterility and mutations in animals; now they want to controll the whole world's food market.But no, our governments don't know about any ill side effects of Frankenfood. As if it was properly set up and tested.There's no way of telling how exactly modified genotype will affect the human population in all the ways. We will know that once people are fed up with that gmo crap long enough and someone conducts a raliable, not biased studies and experiments. We do know about sterility. And that's not all of it.Scientists and biologists play and experiment with things they know next to nothing about, so waht is to be expected... Not to mention that many do that in hope of doing as much harm as possible.

 Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War! 
/Mike
From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

 
<var [/IMG]</var>Here is a interesting article on how to id GMO foods at the market:     http://blog.friendseat.com/how-to-id-ge ... upermarket   Not many consumers realize that the FDA does not require genetically modified food to be labeled. That’s because the FDA has decided that you, dear consumer, don’t care if the tomato you’re eating has been cross bred with frog genes to render the tomato more resistant to cold weather. Some consumers may not be concerned with eating Frankenfood, but for those who are, here’s how to determine if the fruits and vegetables you’re buying are (GM) genetically modified.
Hat tip to Marion Owen for her valuable information.

Here’s how it works:
For conventionally grown fruit, (grown with chemicals inputs), the PLU code on the sticker consists of four numbers.

Organically grown fruit has a five-numeral PLU prefaced by the number 9.

Genetically engineered (GM) fruit has a five-numeral PLU prefaced by the number 8.

For example:

A conventionally grown banana would be: 4011

An organic banana would be: 94011

A genetically engineered (GE or GMO) banana would be: 84011

These tips are specially important now that over 80% of all processed foods in the US are genetically modified. Many countries in the European Union have been banning GM products and produce (including Austria, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary and Luxembourg). We say “Eat healthy, buy or grow organic”.
     
From: Mike <misza2@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 7:24:59 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  Exactly.
And gmo corn or others (soya beans) are no safer than factory farmed meat. With all the chemicals put into them during growth on top of that.
What You mentioned: meat and animal fat is the food that human genotype was evolving on. Humans were eating grass only when they had to - not because they liked it. Meat and animal fat is The Food :D Provided it's not packed with toxic wastes and is genuine. All the so called authorities practically force a meat free, especially fat free diet on population. Everything is fat free or at least, low fat. And where it did take Us? People following such "advices" eat almost only carbohydrates... Be it in form of factory made sugar or plants. And here we have them, all of the so called civilization diseases: diabetes, high blood pressure to neme just two. All those diseases kill thousands of people each year. That's what we got from trying to be smarter than nature. Human biology cannot be decieved. Not for long. The person that came up with "5 a day" and basically all mainstream dieticians are nothing but criminals.

*sarcasm* A food for thought (darn it did come out nicely :D): isn't it interesting how all the companies, corporations and government run agencies promote that "one and only true and healthy" way of life? They are fanatics of those programs...
Cholesterol has been labelled "evil" and is accused of causing all the mentioned diseases. Animal fat is evil and only plant oils are OK. Carbohydrates are the only way to go. People of the Earth: eat grass and sugar...

Even though it has been proven many times by independent tests and studies (and only those that weren't sponsored by food companies may be considered valid, for obvious reasons) that the sentence above is a load of bollocks and it is in fact the other way around. *sarcasm*

Another proof of jewish conspiracy to kill the Gentiles.

Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War!
/Mike
From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

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From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:03:14 AM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  I think of vegetarians as the sexists of food. I love meat, its the point of water meal I'm eating. or sometimes eggs are. but usually meat. matter of fact, I'm about to say hello to the ham in the fridge.
 
To: [email protected]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 00:56:47 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  The long list of people who have ruined their health or literally died from new aged vegan/vegetarian diets is long. Its to the point most of the ideological vegans are only vegan several days a week in private. But seven days a week in public. And the list of jews pushing this is long.

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http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/kdani ... teve-jobs/

Steve Jobs died October 5, and the animal rights organization PETA stepped right up to honor him as a vegetarian who was deeply committed to animal welfare and the environment. PETA, of course, has yet to acknowledge the role that Jobs's near vegan diet may have played in his death, and continues to maintain that their particular brand of "right eating" will virtually guarantee freedom from cancer and other major health problems.

When I blogged about this topic in October, I promised I would follow up once I learned more about Jobs's dietary habits from Walter Isaacson's biography Steve Jobs (Simon & Schuster, 2011). This column delivers on that promise.

The bullet points below include every reference to diet in the entire book, followed by page numbers. My brief comments are found at the very end.

•Jobs came to appreciate organic fruits and vegetables as a teenager when a neighbor taught him how to be a good organic gardener and to compost. (14)
•Between his sophomore and junior hear of high school, he began smoking marijuana regularly and by his senior year was dabbling in LSD as well as exploring the mind bending effect of sleep deprivation (18-19)
•Toward the end of his senior year in high school, he began his "lifelong experiments with compulsive diets, eating only fruits and vegetables so he was as lean and tight as a whippet" (31)
•He attended the love festivals at the local Hare Krishna temple, and went to the Zen center for free vegetarian meals. (35)
•He was greatly influenced by the book Diet for a Small Planet by Frances Moore Lappe. At that point he swore off meat for good and began embracing extreme diets, which included purges, fasts or eating only one or two foods , such as carrots or apples for weeks on end. (36)
•For awhile at college, Jobs lived on Roman Meal cereal. He would buy a box, which would last a week, then flats of dates, almonds and a lot of carrots. He made carrot juice with a Champion juicer, and at one point turned "a sunset-like orange hue." (36)
•His dietary habits became more obsessive when he read the Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret. Jobs then favored eating nothing but fruits and starchless vegetables, which he said prevented the body from forming harmful mucus, and determined to regularly cleanse his body through prolonged fasts. That meant no more Roman Meal cereal — or any bread, grains, or milk for that matter. At one point, he spent an entire week eating only apples, and then began to try even purer fasts. He started with two day fasts and eventually stretched them out to a week or more, breaking them with large amounts of water and leafy vegetables. "After a week, you start to feel fantastic," he said. "You get a ton of vitality from not having to digest all this food. I was in great shape I felt I could get up and walk to San Francisco anytime I wanted." (36)
•As a $5 an hour technician at Atari, he was known as "a hippie with b.o." and "impossible to deal with." He clung to the belief that his fruit-heavy vegetarian diet would prevent not just mucus but also body odor. As Isaacson writes "It was a flawed theory." (43)
•"He was doing a lot of soul-searching about being adopted . . . (with) the primal scream and the mucusless diets, he was trying to cleanse himself and get deeper into his frustration about his birth." (51)
•He was a fan of the Whole Earth Catalog and particularly taken by the final issue, which came out in 1971 when he was still in high school. On the back cover it said "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." (59)
•The name Apple Computers came to him when he was on one of his fruitarian diets. "I had just come back from the apple farm. It sounded fun, spirited and not intimidating. Apple took the edge off the word `computer.'" (63)
•His mother Clara Jobs didn't mind losing most of her house to piles of computer parts and house guests, but she was frustrated by her son's increasingly quirky diets. She would roll her eyes at his latest eating obsessions. She just wanted him to be healthy, and he would be making weird pronouncements like, "I'm a fruitarian and I will only eat leaves picked by virgins in the moonlight." (68)
•He was still convinced against all evidence that his vegan diet meant that he didn't need to use a deodorant or take regular showers. . . . At meetings people had to look at his dirty feet. Sometimes to relieve stress, he would soak his feet in the toilet. (82)
•A colleague who recommended he bathe more often was told that "in exchange" he would have to read fruitarian diet books. "Steve was adamant that he bathed once a week, and that was adequate as long as he was eating a fruitarian diet." (82-83)
•In 1979 or so he "put aside drugs, eased away from being a strict vegan, and cut back the time he spent on Zen retreats." (91)
•He decreed that the sodas in the office refrigerator be replaced by Odwalla organic orange and carrot juices." (118)
•The kitchen was stocked daily with Odwalla juices (142)
•At the launch of the Lisa computer in 1983, he ate a special vegan meal at the Four Seasons restaurant (152)
•He had edged away from his strict vegan diet for the time being and ate vegetarian omelets. (155)
•In 1984 in Italy, Jobs demanded a vegan meal and became extremely angry when the waiter very elaborately proceeded to dish out a sauce filled with sour cream. (185)
•The meal for his 30th birthday celebration included goat cheese and salmon mousse. (189)
•He had a lot of mannerisms. He bit his nails. His hands were "slightly and inexplicably yellow" and in constant motion. (223)
•At a meal with Mitch Kapor, the chairman of Lotus software, Jobs was horrified to see Kapor slathering butter on his bread, and asked, "Have you ever heard of serum cholesterol?" Kapor responded, "I'll make you a deal. You stay away from commenting on my dietary habits, and I will stay away from the subject of your personality." (224)
•At a 1988 NeXT product launch, the lunch menu included mineral water, croissants, cream cheese, bean sprouts. (233)
•Jobs was a vegetarian and so was Chrisann, the mother of his daughter Lisa. Lisa was not vegetarian, but Jobs was fine with that. "Eating chicken became her little indulgence as she shuttled between two parents who were vegetarians with a spiritual regard for natural foods." Jobs's "dietary fixations came in fanatic waves," and he was "fastidious" about what he ate. Lisa watched him "spit out a mouthful of soup one day after learning that it contained butter." (259-260)
•"Even at a young age Lisa began to realize his diet obsessions reflected a life philosophy, one in which asceticism and minimalism could heighten subsequent sensations. He believed that great harvests came from arid sources, pleasure from restraint. He knew the equations that most people didn't know: Things led to their opposites." (259-260)
•Once he took Lisa on a business trip to Tokyo and they stayed at the Okura Hotel. At the elegant downstairs sushi bar, Jobs ordered large trays of unagi sushi, a dish he loved so much that he allowed the warm cooked eel to pass muster as vegetarian. Lisa later wrote, "It was the first time, I'd felt with him, so relaxed and content, over those trays of meat; the excess, the permission and warmth after the cold salads, meant a once inaccessible space had opened. He was less rigid with himself, even human under the great ceilings with the little chairs with the meat and me." (260-261)
•Jobs had hired a hip young couple who had once worked at Chez Panisse as housekeepers ands vegetarian cooks (264)
•At his wedding to Laurene Powell, the cake was in the shape of Yosemite's Half Dome. It was strictly vegan and more than a few of the guest found it inedible. (274)
•"Since his early teens, he had indulged his weird obsession with extremely restrictive diets and fasts. Even after he married and had children, he retained his dubious eating habits. He would spend weeks eating the same thing — carrot salad with lemon, or just apples — and then suddenly spurn that food and declare that he had stopped eating it. He would go on fasts, just as he did as a teenager and he became sanctimonious as he lectured others at the table on the virtues of whatever eating regimen he was following." (477)
•Jobs's wife, Laurene Powell, had been a vegan when they first married, but after her husband's first cancer operation, the partial Whipple procedure, she began to diversify the family meals with fish and other proteins. Their son, Reed, who had been a vegetarian, became a "hearty omnivore." They knew it was important for Steve to get diverse sources of protein. (477)
•Early in 2008, Jobs's eating disorders got worse. On some nights he would stare at the floor and ignore all of the dishes set out on the long kitchen table. He lost 40 pounds during the spring of 2008.
•Dr James Eason "would even stop at the convenience store to get the energy drinks Jobs liked." (485)
•He remained a finicky eater, which was more of a problem than ever. He would eat only fruit smoothies and he would demand that seven or eight of them be lined up so he could find an option that might satisfy him. He would touch the spoon to his mouth for a tiny taste and pronounce `That's no good. That one's no good either.'" His doctor lectured him: "You know this isn't a matter of taste. Stop thinking of this as food. Start thinking of it as medicine." (486)
•Early in 2010, Jobs went to dinner and ordered a mango smoothie and plain vegan pasta. (505)
•At the launch of the iPad2, Isaacson reported "For a change he was eating, though still with some pickiness. He ordered fresh squeezed juice, which he sent back three times, declaring that each new offering was from a bottle, and a pasta primavera which he shoved away as inedible after one taste. But then he ate half of my crab Louise salad and ordered a full one for himself followed by a bowl of ice cream." (527)
•"Jobs's eating problems were exacerbated over the years by his psychological attitude toward food. When he was young, he learned that he could induce euphoria and ecstasy by fasting. So even though he knew that he should eat — his doctors were begging him to consume high-quality protein –lingering in the back of his subconscious, he admitted was his instinct for fasting and for diets like Arnold Ehret's fruit regimen that he had embraced as a teenager. Powell kept telling him it was crazy. `I wanted him to force himself to eat,' she said `and it was incredibly tense at home.'" (548-549)
•Bryar Brown, their part-time cook, would prepare an array of healthy dishes, but Jobs would touch his tongue to one or two dishes and then dismiss them all as inedible. One evening he announced, "I could probably eat a little pumpkin pie," and the even-tempered Brown created a beautiful pie from scratch in an hour. Jobs ate only one bite, but Brown was thrilled." (549)
•During the final years of his life, Powell talked to eating disorder specialists and psychiatrists to try to get help, but her husband shunned them. (549)
That's it. Not a lot to work with, but more than enough to show a longstanding pattern of eating disorders.

On the plus side, Jobs's diet seems to have been consistently organic and high quality. He employed chefs who'd worked at Chef Panisse, and his wife Laurene Powell founded Terravera, a company that produces ready-to-eat organic meals for stores in northern California. Jobs does not appear to have ever been a junk-food vegan who indulged in all-American junk foods such as soda, chocolate, cookies and crackers.

Soy is not mentioned at all in Isaacson's biography. Although the Apple culture was soy friendly with soy milk readily available in vending machines and at coffee stations, Jobs himself may well have rejected it. Jobs had a longstanding fascination with the book The Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret (1866-1922), who claimed the human body is an "air-gas engine" that runs well only on fruits, starchless vegetables and edible green leaves. Soy and other legumes, according to Ehret's way of thinking, were to be disdained as mucus-producing forbidden foods. Ehret not only condemned protein and fat as "unnatural" but said they could not be used by the body. Inspired by such theories, Jobs appears to have eaten a diet low in both fat and protein for most of his life. And what did he eat instead? Carbs high in fructose.

Whether or not Jobs was in one of his fanatic fruitarian phases, he favored a lot of fruit and fruit juice. These are not only high on the glycemic index, but loaded with fructose. Fruits and fruit juices greatly stress the liver and pancreas, contribute to diabetes and many other blood sugar disorders, and have been linked to pancreatic cancer. Jobs suffered from a type of pancreatic cancer known as islet cell carcinoma, which originates in the insulin-secreting beta cells.

Research published in the November 2007 issue of American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was "evidence for a greater pancreatic cancer risk with a high intake of fruit and juices but not with a high intake of sodas." More recently, in the August 2010 issue of Cancer Research, Dr. Anthony Healy of UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center proposed that aberrant fructose metabolism — and not just aberrant glucose metabolism — might be involved in the pathogenesis of pancreatic cancer. Seems fructose provides the raw material cancer cells prefer to use to make the DNA they need to divide and proliferate. Although the UCLA findings are preliminary and more research needs to be done, the Reuters headline "Cancer Cells Slurp Up Fructose" is fair warning to all of us addicted to fruit and fruit juices, organic or otherwise.

Clearly Jobs broke away from strict veganism from time to time to indulge in a few eggs, salmon and unagi sushi. The words of his daughter Lisa (quoted above) provide a moving testimony to how well Jobs's body and mind responded to eating eel, a fish rich in protein and fat. That said, vegans who would like to think Jobs became sick because he failed to be "perfect vegan" now have evidence to support that belief.

 
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From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 9:36:39 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

   on the subject of unhealthy foods and people, my girl told me that theres a girl in her pregnancy class who said,"oh we dont buy fresh food it will just go bad, we just eat junk food," I really feel sorry for that kid. and I really do care about frog genes in my apples or w/e. maybe, if I were eating, per say, a frog, I wouldnt mind the frog genes, but definetly not in anything other than a frog. I think we should ban all unorganic produce, fish and meats, and fast food for that matter. I've been working to get more people aware about water flouridation lately, too.
To: [email protected]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 09:10:30 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

 
Here is a interesting article on how to id GMO foods at the market:     http://blog.friendseat.com/how-to-id-ge ... upermarket   Not many consumers realize that the FDA does not require genetically modified food to be labeled. That’s because the FDA has decided that you, dear consumer, don’t care if the tomato you’re eating has been cross bred with frog genes to render the tomato more resistant to cold weather. Some consumers may not be concerned with eating Frankenfood, but for those who are, here’s how to determine if the fruits and vegetables you’re buying are (GM) genetically modified.
Hat tip to Marion Owen for her valuable information.

Here’s how it works:
For conventionally grown fruit, (grown with chemicals inputs), the PLU code on the sticker consists of four numbers.

Organically grown fruit has a five-numeral PLU prefaced by the number 9.

Genetically engineered (GM) fruit has a five-numeral PLU prefaced by the number 8.

For example:

A conventionally grown banana would be: 4011

An organic banana would be: 94011

A genetically engineered (GE or GMO) banana would be: 84011

These tips are specially important now that over 80% of all processed foods in the US are genetically modified. Many countries in the European Union have been banning GM products and produce (including Austria, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary and Luxembourg). We say “Eat healthy, buy or grow organic”.
     
From: Mike <misza2@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 7:24:59 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  Exactly.
And gmo corn or others (soya beans) are no safer than factory farmed meat. With all the chemicals put into them during growth on top of that.
What You mentioned: meat and animal fat is the food that human genotype was evolving on. Humans were eating grass only when they had to - not because they liked it. Meat and animal fat is The Food :D Provided it's not packed with toxic wastes and is genuine. All the so called authorities practically force a meat free, especially fat free diet on population. Everything is fat free or at least, low fat. And where it did take Us? People following such "advices" eat almost only carbohydrates... Be it in form of factory made sugar or plants. And here we have them, all of the so called civilization diseases: diabetes, high blood pressure to neme just two. All those diseases kill thousands of people each year. That's what we got from trying to be smarter than nature. Human biology cannot be decieved. Not for long. The person that came up with "5 a day" and basically all mainstream dieticians are nothing but criminals.

*sarcasm* A food for thought (darn it did come out nicely :D): isn't it interesting how all the companies, corporations and government run agencies promote that "one and only true and healthy" way of life? They are fanatics of those programs...
Cholesterol has been labelled "evil" and is accused of causing all the mentioned diseases. Animal fat is evil and only plant oils are OK. Carbohydrates are the only way to go. People of the Earth: eat grass and sugar...

Even though it has been proven many times by independent tests and studies (and only those that weren't sponsored by food companies may be considered valid, for obvious reasons) that the sentence above is a load of bollocks and it is in fact the other way around. *sarcasm*

Another proof of jewish conspiracy to kill the Gentiles.

Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War!
/Mike
From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  The views of vegetarians fall into two main points. One meat is unhealthy to the body so they avoid it. And two is the ethicial debate of slaughtering of animals for food.   The first point is correct is we are looking at factory farmed meat as its loaded with toxic crap, the two major flu viruses that hit N.America came from factory farming operations. If one switches to proper organic meats the first point is cancelled out. The second point is true once again if one looks at the factory farming. But the ethicial animal farms are different and the aspect of killing the animal for food is the way of nature. Beckett studies found plants are just as conscious as animals and react to pain and fear the same way. So the ethic debate is settled. And becomes a matter of bias of what kingdom of life you consider more sentimental about.   The fact is only about 15 to 30% of plant protein can be used by the body and its a weak protein. All plant food is missing B12 as well. Without good B12 levels one can go into a coma and die its vital for brain and gut functioning. The whole vegan population has to take B12 supplements to stay alive but very litte  of non-vegan populations have to do this. Then the quality of the synthetic B12 is low.   The final fact is humans have been eating meat from what has been traced back to our most earliest know pre human ancestors in the fossil record of 3.4 million years we are adapted for this by millions of years of evolution. And despite the claims of some vegans who like to point to other animals in a natural fallacy attempt. Cows, Horses and others have a different biology and the Chimps they love to point to as our nearest non-human relative of which we split from millions of years ago as vegan eaters. Also eat meat, they eat hunt rival Chimps in packs and kill and eat them.etc
From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:03:14 AM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  I think of vegetarians as the sexists of food. I love meat, its the point of water meal I'm eating. or sometimes eggs are. but usually meat. matter of fact, I'm about to say hello to the ham in the fridge.
 
To: [email protected]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 00:56:47 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  The long list of people who have ruined their health or literally died from new aged vegan/vegetarian diets is long. Its to the point most of the ideological vegans are only vegan several days a week in private. But seven days a week in public. And the list of jews pushing this is long.

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http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/kdani ... teve-jobs/

Steve Jobs died October 5, and the animal rights organization PETA stepped right up to honor him as a vegetarian who was deeply committed to animal welfare and the environment. PETA, of course, has yet to acknowledge the role that Jobs's near vegan diet may have played in his death, and continues to maintain that their particular brand of "right eating" will virtually guarantee freedom from cancer and other major health problems.

When I blogged about this topic in October, I promised I would follow up once I learned more about Jobs's dietary habits from Walter Isaacson's biography Steve Jobs (Simon & Schuster, 2011). This column delivers on that promise.

The bullet points below include every reference to diet in the entire book, followed by page numbers. My brief comments are found at the very end.

•Jobs came to appreciate organic fruits and vegetables as a teenager when a neighbor taught him how to be a good organic gardener and to compost. (14)
•Between his sophomore and junior hear of high school, he began smoking marijuana regularly and by his senior year was dabbling in LSD as well as exploring the mind bending effect of sleep deprivation (18-19)
•Toward the end of his senior year in high school, he began his "lifelong experiments with compulsive diets, eating only fruits and vegetables so he was as lean and tight as a whippet" (31)
•He attended the love festivals at the local Hare Krishna temple, and went to the Zen center for free vegetarian meals. (35)
•He was greatly influenced by the book Diet for a Small Planet by Frances Moore Lappe. At that point he swore off meat for good and began embracing extreme diets, which included purges, fasts or eating only one or two foods , such as carrots or apples for weeks on end. (36)
•For awhile at college, Jobs lived on Roman Meal cereal. He would buy a box, which would last a week, then flats of dates, almonds and a lot of carrots. He made carrot juice with a Champion juicer, and at one point turned "a sunset-like orange hue." (36)
•His dietary habits became more obsessive when he read the Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret. Jobs then favored eating nothing but fruits and starchless vegetables, which he said prevented the body from forming harmful mucus, and determined to regularly cleanse his body through prolonged fasts. That meant no more Roman Meal cereal — or any bread, grains, or milk for that matter. At one point, he spent an entire week eating only apples, and then began to try even purer fasts. He started with two day fasts and eventually stretched them out to a week or more, breaking them with large amounts of water and leafy vegetables. "After a week, you start to feel fantastic," he said. "You get a ton of vitality from not having to digest all this food. I was in great shape I felt I could get up and walk to San Francisco anytime I wanted." (36)
•As a $5 an hour technician at Atari, he was known as "a hippie with b.o." and "impossible to deal with." He clung to the belief that his fruit-heavy vegetarian diet would prevent not just mucus but also body odor. As Isaacson writes "It was a flawed theory." (43)
•"He was doing a lot of soul-searching about being adopted . . . (with) the primal scream and the mucusless diets, he was trying to cleanse himself and get deeper into his frustration about his birth." (51)
•He was a fan of the Whole Earth Catalog and particularly taken by the final issue, which came out in 1971 when he was still in high school. On the back cover it said "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." (59)
•The name Apple Computers came to him when he was on one of his fruitarian diets. "I had just come back from the apple farm. It sounded fun, spirited and not intimidating. Apple took the edge off the word `computer.'" (63)
•His mother Clara Jobs didn't mind losing most of her house to piles of computer parts and house guests, but she was frustrated by her son's increasingly quirky diets. She would roll her eyes at his latest eating obsessions. She just wanted him to be healthy, and he would be making weird pronouncements like, "I'm a fruitarian and I will only eat leaves picked by virgins in the moonlight." (68)
•He was still convinced against all evidence that his vegan diet meant that he didn't need to use a deodorant or take regular showers. . . . At meetings people had to look at his dirty feet. Sometimes to relieve stress, he would soak his feet in the toilet. (82)
•A colleague who recommended he bathe more often was told that "in exchange" he would have to read fruitarian diet books. "Steve was adamant that he bathed once a week, and that was adequate as long as he was eating a fruitarian diet." (82-83)
•In 1979 or so he "put aside drugs, eased away from being a strict vegan, and cut back the time he spent on Zen retreats." (91)
•He decreed that the sodas in the office refrigerator be replaced by Odwalla organic orange and carrot juices." (118)
•The kitchen was stocked daily with Odwalla juices (142)
•At the launch of the Lisa computer in 1983, he ate a special vegan meal at the Four Seasons restaurant (152)
•He had edged away from his strict vegan diet for the time being and ate vegetarian omelets. (155)
•In 1984 in Italy, Jobs demanded a vegan meal and became extremely angry when the waiter very elaborately proceeded to dish out a sauce filled with sour cream. (185)
•The meal for his 30th birthday celebration included goat cheese and salmon mousse. (189)
•He had a lot of mannerisms. He bit his nails. His hands were "slightly and inexplicably yellow" and in constant motion. (223)
•At a meal with Mitch Kapor, the chairman of Lotus software, Jobs was horrified to see Kapor slathering butter on his bread, and asked, "Have you ever heard of serum cholesterol?" Kapor responded, "I'll make you a deal. You stay away from commenting on my dietary habits, and I will stay away from the subject of your personality." (224)
•At a 1988 NeXT product launch, the lunch menu included mineral water, croissants, cream cheese, bean sprouts. (233)
•Jobs was a vegetarian and so was Chrisann, the mother of his daughter Lisa. Lisa was not vegetarian, but Jobs was fine with that. "Eating chicken became her little indulgence as she shuttled between two parents who were vegetarians with a spiritual regard for natural foods." Jobs's "dietary fixations came in fanatic waves," and he was "fastidious" about what he ate. Lisa watched him "spit out a mouthful of soup one day after learning that it contained butter." (259-260)
•"Even at a young age Lisa began to realize his diet obsessions reflected a life philosophy, one in which asceticism and minimalism could heighten subsequent sensations. He believed that great harvests came from arid sources, pleasure from restraint. He knew the equations that most people didn't know: Things led to their opposites." (259-260)
•Once he took Lisa on a business trip to Tokyo and they stayed at the Okura Hotel. At the elegant downstairs sushi bar, Jobs ordered large trays of unagi sushi, a dish he loved so much that he allowed the warm cooked eel to pass muster as vegetarian. Lisa later wrote, "It was the first time, I'd felt with him, so relaxed and content, over those trays of meat; the excess, the permission and warmth after the cold salads, meant a once inaccessible space had opened. He was less rigid with himself, even human under the great ceilings with the little chairs with the meat and me." (260-261)
•Jobs had hired a hip young couple who had once worked at Chez Panisse as housekeepers ands vegetarian cooks (264)
•At his wedding to Laurene Powell, the cake was in the shape of Yosemite's Half Dome. It was strictly vegan and more than a few of the guest found it inedible. (274)
•"Since his early teens, he had indulged his weird obsession with extremely restrictive diets and fasts. Even after he married and had children, he retained his dubious eating habits. He would spend weeks eating the same thing — carrot salad with lemon, or just apples — and then suddenly spurn that food and declare that he had stopped eating it. He would go on fasts, just as he did as a teenager and he became sanctimonious as he lectured others at the table on the virtues of whatever eating regimen he was following." (477)
•Jobs's wife, Laurene Powell, had been a vegan when they first married, but after her husband's first cancer operation, the partial Whipple procedure, she began to diversify the family meals with fish and other proteins. Their son, Reed, who had been a vegetarian, became a "hearty omnivore." They knew it was important for Steve to get diverse sources of protein. (477)
•Early in 2008, Jobs's eating disorders got worse. On some nights he would stare at the floor and ignore all of the dishes set out on the long kitchen table. He lost 40 pounds during the spring of 2008.
•Dr James Eason "would even stop at the convenience store to get the energy drinks Jobs liked." (485)
•He remained a finicky eater, which was more of a problem than ever. He would eat only fruit smoothies and he would demand that seven or eight of them be lined up so he could find an option that might satisfy him. He would touch the spoon to his mouth for a tiny taste and pronounce `That's no good. That one's no good either.'" His doctor lectured him: "You know this isn't a matter of taste. Stop thinking of this as food. Start thinking of it as medicine." (486)
•Early in 2010, Jobs went to dinner and ordered a mango smoothie and plain vegan pasta. (505)
•At the launch of the iPad2, Isaacson reported "For a change he was eating, though still with some pickiness. He ordered fresh squeezed juice, which he sent back three times, declaring that each new offering was from a bottle, and a pasta primavera which he shoved away as inedible after one taste. But then he ate half of my crab Louise salad and ordered a full one for himself followed by a bowl of ice cream." (527)
•"Jobs's eating problems were exacerbated over the years by his psychological attitude toward food. When he was young, he learned that he could induce euphoria and ecstasy by fasting. So even though he knew that he should eat — his doctors were begging him to consume high-quality protein –lingering in the back of his subconscious, he admitted was his instinct for fasting and for diets like Arnold Ehret's fruit regimen that he had embraced as a teenager. Powell kept telling him it was crazy. `I wanted him to force himself to eat,' she said `and it was incredibly tense at home.'" (548-549)
•Bryar Brown, their part-time cook, would prepare an array of healthy dishes, but Jobs would touch his tongue to one or two dishes and then dismiss them all as inedible. One evening he announced, "I could probably eat a little pumpkin pie," and the even-tempered Brown created a beautiful pie from scratch in an hour. Jobs ate only one bite, but Brown was thrilled." (549)
•During the final years of his life, Powell talked to eating disorder specialists and psychiatrists to try to get help, but her husband shunned them. (549)
That's it. Not a lot to work with, but more than enough to show a longstanding pattern of eating disorders.

On the plus side, Jobs's diet seems to have been consistently organic and high quality. He employed chefs who'd worked at Chef Panisse, and his wife Laurene Powell founded Terravera, a company that produces ready-to-eat organic meals for stores in northern California. Jobs does not appear to have ever been a junk-food vegan who indulged in all-American junk foods such as soda, chocolate, cookies and crackers.

Soy is not mentioned at all in Isaacson's biography. Although the Apple culture was soy friendly with soy milk readily available in vending machines and at coffee stations, Jobs himself may well have rejected it. Jobs had a longstanding fascination with the book The Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret (1866-1922), who claimed the human body is an "air-gas engine" that runs well only on fruits, starchless vegetables and edible green leaves. Soy and other legumes, according to Ehret's way of thinking, were to be disdained as mucus-producing forbidden foods. Ehret not only condemned protein and fat as "unnatural" but said they could not be used by the body. Inspired by such theories, Jobs appears to have eaten a diet low in both fat and protein for most of his life. And what did he eat instead? Carbs high in fructose.

Whether or not Jobs was in one of his fanatic fruitarian phases, he favored a lot of fruit and fruit juice. These are not only high on the glycemic index, but loaded with fructose. Fruits and fruit juices greatly stress the liver and pancreas, contribute to diabetes and many other blood sugar disorders, and have been linked to pancreatic cancer. Jobs suffered from a type of pancreatic cancer known as islet cell carcinoma, which originates in the insulin-secreting beta cells.

Research published in the November 2007 issue of American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was "evidence for a greater pancreatic cancer risk with a high intake of fruit and juices but not with a high intake of sodas." More recently, in the August 2010 issue of Cancer Research, Dr. Anthony Healy of UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center proposed that aberrant fructose metabolism — and not just aberrant glucose metabolism — might be involved in the pathogenesis of pancreatic cancer. Seems fructose provides the raw material cancer cells prefer to use to make the DNA they need to divide and proliferate. Although the UCLA findings are preliminary and more research needs to be done, the Reuters headline "Cancer Cells Slurp Up Fructose" is fair warning to all of us addicted to fruit and fruit juices, organic or otherwise.

Clearly Jobs broke away from strict veganism from time to time to indulge in a few eggs, salmon and unagi sushi. The words of his daughter Lisa (quoted above) provide a moving testimony to how well Jobs's body and mind responded to eating eel, a fish rich in protein and fat. That said, vegans who would like to think Jobs became sick because he failed to be "perfect vegan" now have evidence to support that belief.


 
Or, as in this case, from their parents stupidity. 


To: [email protected]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 14:06:44 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

 
Most people simply need to be saved from their own stupidity half the time.

From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 9:36:39 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

   on the subject of unhealthy foods and people, my girl told me that theres a girl in her pregnancy class who said,"oh we dont buy fresh food it will just go bad, we just eat junk food," I really feel sorry for that kid. and I really do care about frog genes in my apples or w/e. maybe, if I were eating, per say, a frog, I wouldnt mind the frog genes, but definetly not in anything other than a frog. I think we should ban all unorganic produce, fish and meats, and fast food for that matter. I've been working to get more people aware about water flouridation lately, too.
To: [email protected]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 09:10:30 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

 
Here is a interesting article on how to id GMO foods at the market:     http://blog.friendseat.com/how-to-id-ge ... upermarket   Not many consumers realize that the FDA does not require genetically modified food to be labeled. That’s because the FDA has decided that you, dear consumer, don’t care if the tomato you’re eating has been cross bred with frog genes to render the tomato more resistant to cold weather. Some consumers may not be concerned with eating Frankenfood, but for those who are, here’s how to determine if the fruits and vegetables you’re buying are (GM) genetically modified.
Hat tip to Marion Owen for her valuable information.

Here’s how it works:
For conventionally grown fruit, (grown with chemicals inputs), the PLU code on the sticker consists of four numbers.

Organically grown fruit has a five-numeral PLU prefaced by the number 9.

Genetically engineered (GM) fruit has a five-numeral PLU prefaced by the number 8.

For example:

A conventionally grown banana would be: 4011

An organic banana would be: 94011

A genetically engineered (GE or GMO) banana would be: 84011

These tips are specially important now that over 80% of all processed foods in the US are genetically modified. Many countries in the European Union have been banning GM products and produce (including Austria, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary and Luxembourg). We say “Eat healthy, buy or grow organic”.
     
From: Mike <misza2@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 7:24:59 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  Exactly.
And gmo corn or others (soya beans) are no safer than factory farmed meat. With all the chemicals put into them during growth on top of that.
What You mentioned: meat and animal fat is the food that human genotype was evolving on. Humans were eating grass only when they had to - not because they liked it. Meat and animal fat is The Food :D Provided it's not packed with toxic wastes and is genuine. All the so called authorities practically force a meat free, especially fat free diet on population. Everything is fat free or at least, low fat. And where it did take Us? People following such "advices" eat almost only carbohydrates... Be it in form of factory made sugar or plants. And here we have them, all of the so called civilization diseases: diabetes, high blood pressure to neme just two. All those diseases kill thousands of people each year. That's what we got from trying to be smarter than nature. Human biology cannot be decieved. Not for long. The person that came up with "5 a day" and basically all mainstream dieticians are nothing but criminals.

*sarcasm* A food for thought (darn it did come out nicely :D): isn't it interesting how all the companies, corporations and government run agencies promote that "one and only true and healthy" way of life? They are fanatics of those programs...
Cholesterol has been labelled "evil" and is accused of causing all the mentioned diseases. Animal fat is evil and only plant oils are OK. Carbohydrates are the only way to go. People of the Earth: eat grass and sugar...

Even though it has been proven many times by independent tests and studies (and only those that weren't sponsored by food companies may be considered valid, for obvious reasons) that the sentence above is a load of bollocks and it is in fact the other way around. *sarcasm*

Another proof of jewish conspiracy to kill the Gentiles.

Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War!
/Mike
From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  The views of vegetarians fall into two main points. One meat is unhealthy to the body so they avoid it. And two is the ethicial debate of slaughtering of animals for food.   The first point is correct is we are looking at factory farmed meat as its loaded with toxic crap, the two major flu viruses that hit N.America came from factory farming operations. If one switches to proper organic meats the first point is cancelled out. The second point is true once again if one looks at the factory farming. But the ethicial animal farms are different and the aspect of killing the animal for food is the way of nature. Beckett studies found plants are just as conscious as animals and react to pain and fear the same way. So the ethic debate is settled. And becomes a matter of bias of what kingdom of life you consider more sentimental about.   The fact is only about 15 to 30% of plant protein can be used by the body and its a weak protein. All plant food is missing B12 as well. Without good B12 levels one can go into a coma and die its vital for brain and gut functioning. The whole vegan population has to take B12 supplements to stay alive but very litte  of non-vegan populations have to do this. Then the quality of the synthetic B12 is low.   The final fact is humans have been eating meat from what has been traced back to our most earliest know pre human ancestors in the fossil record of 3.4 million years we are adapted for this by millions of years of evolution. And despite the claims of some vegans who like to point to other animals in a natural fallacy attempt. Cows, Horses and others have a different biology and the Chimps they love to point to as our nearest non-human relative of which we split from millions of years ago as vegan eaters. Also eat meat, they eat hunt rival Chimps in packs and kill and eat them.etc
From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:03:14 AM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  I think of vegetarians as the sexists of food. I love meat, its the point of water meal I'm eating. or sometimes eggs are. but usually meat. matter of fact, I'm about to say hello to the ham in the fridge.
 
To: [email protected]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 00:56:47 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

  The long list of people who have ruined their health or literally died from new aged vegan/vegetarian diets is long. Its to the point most of the ideological vegans are only vegan several days a week in private. But seven days a week in public. And the list of jews pushing this is long.

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Steve Jobs died October 5, and the animal rights organization PETA stepped right up to honor him as a vegetarian who was deeply committed to animal welfare and the environment. PETA, of course, has yet to acknowledge the role that Jobs's near vegan diet may have played in his death, and continues to maintain that their particular brand of "right eating" will virtually guarantee freedom from cancer and other major health problems.

When I blogged about this topic in October, I promised I would follow up once I learned more about Jobs's dietary habits from Walter Isaacson's biography Steve Jobs (Simon & Schuster, 2011). This column delivers on that promise.

The bullet points below include every reference to diet in the entire book, followed by page numbers. My brief comments are found at the very end.

•Jobs came to appreciate organic fruits and vegetables as a teenager when a neighbor taught him how to be a good organic gardener and to compost. (14)
•Between his sophomore and junior hear of high school, he began smoking marijuana regularly and by his senior year was dabbling in LSD as well as exploring the mind bending effect of sleep deprivation (18-19)
•Toward the end of his senior year in high school, he began his "lifelong experiments with compulsive diets, eating only fruits and vegetables so he was as lean and tight as a whippet" (31)
•He attended the love festivals at the local Hare Krishna temple, and went to the Zen center for free vegetarian meals. (35)
•He was greatly influenced by the book Diet for a Small Planet by Frances Moore Lappe. At that point he swore off meat for good and began embracing extreme diets, which included purges, fasts or eating only one or two foods , such as carrots or apples for weeks on end. (36)
•For awhile at college, Jobs lived on Roman Meal cereal. He would buy a box, which would last a week, then flats of dates, almonds and a lot of carrots. He made carrot juice with a Champion juicer, and at one point turned "a sunset-like orange hue." (36)
•His dietary habits became more obsessive when he read the Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret. Jobs then favored eating nothing but fruits and starchless vegetables, which he said prevented the body from forming harmful mucus, and determined to regularly cleanse his body through prolonged fasts. That meant no more Roman Meal cereal — or any bread, grains, or milk for that matter. At one point, he spent an entire week eating only apples, and then began to try even purer fasts. He started with two day fasts and eventually stretched them out to a week or more, breaking them with large amounts of water and leafy vegetables. "After a week, you start to feel fantastic," he said. "You get a ton of vitality from not having to digest all this food. I was in great shape I felt I could get up and walk to San Francisco anytime I wanted." (36)
•As a $5 an hour technician at Atari, he was known as "a hippie with b.o." and "impossible to deal with." He clung to the belief that his fruit-heavy vegetarian diet would prevent not just mucus but also body odor. As Isaacson writes "It was a flawed theory." (43)
•"He was doing a lot of soul-searching about being adopted . . . (with) the primal scream and the mucusless diets, he was trying to cleanse himself and get deeper into his frustration about his birth." (51)
•He was a fan of the Whole Earth Catalog and particularly taken by the final issue, which came out in 1971 when he was still in high school. On the back cover it said "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." (59)
•The name Apple Computers came to him when he was on one of his fruitarian diets. "I had just come back from the apple farm. It sounded fun, spirited and not intimidating. Apple took the edge off the word `computer.'" (63)
•His mother Clara Jobs didn't mind losing most of her house to piles of computer parts and house guests, but she was frustrated by her son's increasingly quirky diets. She would roll her eyes at his latest eating obsessions. She just wanted him to be healthy, and he would be making weird pronouncements like, "I'm a fruitarian and I will only eat leaves picked by virgins in the moonlight." (68)
•He was still convinced against all evidence that his vegan diet meant that he didn't need to use a deodorant or take regular showers. . . . At meetings people had to look at his dirty feet. Sometimes to relieve stress, he would soak his feet in the toilet. (82)
•A colleague who recommended he bathe more often was told that "in exchange" he would have to read fruitarian diet books. "Steve was adamant that he bathed once a week, and that was adequate as long as he was eating a fruitarian diet." (82-83)
•In 1979 or so he "put aside drugs, eased away from being a strict vegan, and cut back the time he spent on Zen retreats." (91)
•He decreed that the sodas in the office refrigerator be replaced by Odwalla organic orange and carrot juices." (118)
•The kitchen was stocked daily with Odwalla juices (142)
•At the launch of the Lisa computer in 1983, he ate a special vegan meal at the Four Seasons restaurant (152)
•He had edged away from his strict vegan diet for the time being and ate vegetarian omelets. (155)
•In 1984 in Italy, Jobs demanded a vegan meal and became extremely angry when the waiter very elaborately proceeded to dish out a sauce filled with sour cream. (185)
•The meal for his 30th birthday celebration included goat cheese and salmon mousse. (189)
•He had a lot of mannerisms. He bit his nails. His hands were "slightly and inexplicably yellow" and in constant motion. (223)
•At a meal with Mitch Kapor, the chairman of Lotus software, Jobs was horrified to see Kapor slathering butter on his bread, and asked, "Have you ever heard of serum cholesterol?" Kapor responded, "I'll make you a deal. You stay away from commenting on my dietary habits, and I will stay away from the subject of your personality." (224)
•At a 1988 NeXT product launch, the lunch menu included mineral water, croissants, cream cheese, bean sprouts. (233)
•Jobs was a vegetarian and so was Chrisann, the mother of his daughter Lisa. Lisa was not vegetarian, but Jobs was fine with that. "Eating chicken became her little indulgence as she shuttled between two parents who were vegetarians with a spiritual regard for natural foods." Jobs's "dietary fixations came in fanatic waves," and he was "fastidious" about what he ate. Lisa watched him "spit out a mouthful of soup one day after learning that it contained butter." (259-260)
•"Even at a young age Lisa began to realize his diet obsessions reflected a life philosophy, one in which asceticism and minimalism could heighten subsequent sensations. He believed that great harvests came from arid sources, pleasure from restraint. He knew the equations that most people didn't know: Things led to their opposites." (259-260)
•Once he took Lisa on a business trip to Tokyo and they stayed at the Okura Hotel. At the elegant downstairs sushi bar, Jobs ordered large trays of unagi sushi, a dish he loved so much that he allowed the warm cooked eel to pass muster as vegetarian. Lisa later wrote, "It was the first time, I'd felt with him, so relaxed and content, over those trays of meat; the excess, the permission and warmth after the cold salads, meant a once inaccessible space had opened. He was less rigid with himself, even human under the great ceilings with the little chairs with the meat and me." (260-261)
•Jobs had hired a hip young couple who had once worked at Chez Panisse as housekeepers ands vegetarian cooks (264)
•At his wedding to Laurene Powell, the cake was in the shape of Yosemite's Half Dome. It was strictly vegan and more than a few of the guest found it inedible. (274)
•"Since his early teens, he had indulged his weird obsession with extremely restrictive diets and fasts. Even after he married and had children, he retained his dubious eating habits. He would spend weeks eating the same thing — carrot salad with lemon, or just apples — and then suddenly spurn that food and declare that he had stopped eating it. He would go on fasts, just as he did as a teenager and he became sanctimonious as he lectured others at the table on the virtues of whatever eating regimen he was following." (477)
•Jobs's wife, Laurene Powell, had been a vegan when they first married, but after her husband's first cancer operation, the partial Whipple procedure, she began to diversify the family meals with fish and other proteins. Their son, Reed, who had been a vegetarian, became a "hearty omnivore." They knew it was important for Steve to get diverse sources of protein. (477)
•Early in 2008, Jobs's eating disorders got worse. On some nights he would stare at the floor and ignore all of the dishes set out on the long kitchen table. He lost 40 pounds during the spring of 2008.
•Dr James Eason "would even stop at the convenience store to get the energy drinks Jobs liked." (485)
•He remained a finicky eater, which was more of a problem than ever. He would eat only fruit smoothies and he would demand that seven or eight of them be lined up so he could find an option that might satisfy him. He would touch the spoon to his mouth for a tiny taste and pronounce `That's no good. That one's no good either.'" His doctor lectured him: "You know this isn't a matter of taste. Stop thinking of this as food. Start thinking of it as medicine." (486)
•Early in 2010, Jobs went to dinner and ordered a mango smoothie and plain vegan pasta. (505)
•At the launch of the iPad2, Isaacson reported "For a change he was eating, though still with some pickiness. He ordered fresh squeezed juice, which he sent back three times, declaring that each new offering was from a bottle, and a pasta primavera which he shoved away as inedible after one taste. But then he ate half of my crab Louise salad and ordered a full one for himself followed by a bowl of ice cream." (527)
•"Jobs's eating problems were exacerbated over the years by his psychological attitude toward food. When he was young, he learned that he could induce euphoria and ecstasy by fasting. So even though he knew that he should eat — his doctors were begging him to consume high-quality protein –lingering in the back of his subconscious, he admitted was his instinct for fasting and for diets like Arnold Ehret's fruit regimen that he had embraced as a teenager. Powell kept telling him it was crazy. `I wanted him to force himself to eat,' she said `and it was incredibly tense at home.'" (548-549)
•Bryar Brown, their part-time cook, would prepare an array of healthy dishes, but Jobs would touch his tongue to one or two dishes and then dismiss them all as inedible. One evening he announced, "I could probably eat a little pumpkin pie," and the even-tempered Brown created a beautiful pie from scratch in an hour. Jobs ate only one bite, but Brown was thrilled." (549)
•During the final years of his life, Powell talked to eating disorder specialists and psychiatrists to try to get help, but her husband shunned them. (549)
That's it. Not a lot to work with, but more than enough to show a longstanding pattern of eating disorders.

On the plus side, Jobs's diet seems to have been consistently organic and high quality. He employed chefs who'd worked at Chef Panisse, and his wife Laurene Powell founded Terravera, a company that produces ready-to-eat organic meals for stores in northern California. Jobs does not appear to have ever been a junk-food vegan who indulged in all-American junk foods such as soda, chocolate, cookies and crackers.

Soy is not mentioned at all in Isaacson's biography. Although the Apple culture was soy friendly with soy milk readily available in vending machines and at coffee stations, Jobs himself may well have rejected it. Jobs had a longstanding fascination with the book The Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret (1866-1922), who claimed the human body is an "air-gas engine" that runs well only on fruits, starchless vegetables and edible green leaves. Soy and other legumes, according to Ehret's way of thinking, were to be disdained as mucus-producing forbidden foods. Ehret not only condemned protein and fat as "unnatural" but said they could not be used by the body. Inspired by such theories, Jobs appears to have eaten a diet low in both fat and protein for most of his life. And what did he eat instead? Carbs high in fructose.

Whether or not Jobs was in one of his fanatic fruitarian phases, he favored a lot of fruit and fruit juice. These are not only high on the glycemic index, but loaded with fructose. Fruits and fruit juices greatly stress the liver and pancreas, contribute to diabetes and many other blood sugar disorders, and have been linked to pancreatic cancer. Jobs suffered from a type of pancreatic cancer known as islet cell carcinoma, which originates in the insulin-secreting beta cells.

Research published in the November 2007 issue of American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was "evidence for a greater pancreatic cancer risk with a high intake of fruit and juices but not with a high intake of sodas." More recently, in the August 2010 issue of Cancer Research, Dr. Anthony Healy of UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center proposed that aberrant fructose metabolism — and not just aberrant glucose metabolism — might be involved in the pathogenesis of pancreatic cancer. Seems fructose provides the raw material cancer cells prefer to use to make the DNA they need to divide and proliferate. Although the UCLA findings are preliminary and more research needs to be done, the Reuters headline "Cancer Cells Slurp Up Fructose" is fair warning to all of us addicted to fruit and fruit juices, organic or otherwise.

Clearly Jobs broke away from strict veganism from time to time to indulge in a few eggs, salmon and unagi sushi. The words of his daughter Lisa (quoted above) provide a moving testimony to how well Jobs's body and mind responded to eating eel, a fish rich in protein and fat. That said, vegans who would like to think Jobs became sick because he failed to be "perfect vegan" now have evidence to support that belief.



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One of good friends is a vegan. He has a youtube channel called durianrider http://www.youtube.com/user/durianriders?feature=g-u-u. He debunks most of the vegan myths.

Most people cannot sustain a vegan diet because they don't get enough calories. I personally eat upto 3500 calories via fruit. It gives my brain enough sugar to function.

I have been vegan for 6 months now. My bench press and squats have gone off the charts.My 10km timing is at 40min. There is lot vegan bs promoted to confuse us gentile. Just like everything else.

Irrespective of media and opinions, people have to find what fits best for them.I personally do it for myself and then the animals and earth.

PS I have been living in thailand and fruits are bloody cheap.









--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Andre Wilson <darthxilon@... wrote:


Or, as in this case, from their parents stupidity.

To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 14:06:44 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs




























Most people simply need to be saved from their own stupidity half the time.





From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 9:36:39 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs





on the subject of unhealthy foods and people, my girl told me that theres a girl in her pregnancy class who said,"oh we dont buy fresh food it will just go bad, we just eat junk food," I really feel sorry for that kid. and I really do care about frog genes in my apples or w/e. maybe, if I were eating, per say, a frog, I wouldnt mind the frog genes, but definetly not in anything other than a frog. I think we should ban all unorganic produce, fish and meats, and fast food for that matter. I've been working to get more people aware about water flouridation lately, too.



To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 09:10:30 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs








Here is a interesting article on how to id GMO foods at the market:


http://blog.friendseat.com/how-to-id-ge ... upermarket

Not many consumers realize that the FDA does not require genetically modified food to be labeled. That's because the FDA has decided that you, dear consumer, don't care if the tomato you're eating has been cross bred with frog genes to render the tomato more resistant to cold weather. Some consumers may not be concerned with eating Frankenfood, but for those who are, here's how to determine if the fruits and vegetables you're buying are (GM) genetically modified.
Hat tip to Marion Owen for her valuable information.

Here's how it works:
For conventionally grown fruit, (grown with chemicals inputs), the PLU code on the sticker consists of four numbers.

Organically grown fruit has a five-numeral PLU prefaced by the number 9.

Genetically engineered (GM) fruit has a five-numeral PLU prefaced by the number 8.

For example:

A conventionally grown banana would be: 4011

An organic
banana would be: 94011

A genetically engineered (GE or GMO) banana would be: 84011

These tips are specially important now that over 80% of all processed foods in the US are genetically modified. Many countries in the European Union have been banning GM products and produce (including Austria, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary and Luxembourg). We say "Eat healthy, buy or grow organic".









From: Mike <misza2@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 7:24:59 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs






Exactly.


And gmo corn or others (soya beans) are no safer than factory farmed meat. With all the chemicals put into them during growth on top of that.

What You mentioned: meat and animal fat is the food that human genotype was evolving on. Humans were eating grass only when they had to - not because they liked it.
Meat and animal fat is The Food :D Provided it's not packed with toxic wastes and is genuine.
All the so called authorities practically force a meat free, especially fat free diet on population. Everything is fat free or at least, low fat. And where it did take Us? People following such "advices" eat almost only carbohydrates... Be it in form of factory made sugar or plants. And here we have them, all of the so called civilization diseases: diabetes, high blood pressure to neme just two. All those diseases kill thousands of people each year. That's what we got from trying to be smarter than nature.
Human biology cannot be decieved. Not for long.
The person that came up with "5 a day" and basically all mainstream dieticians are nothing but criminals.



*sarcasm* A food for thought (darn it did come out nicely :D): isn't it interesting how all the companies, corporations and government run agencies promote that "one and only true and healthy" way of life? They are fanatics of those programs...


Cholesterol has been labelled "evil" and is accused of causing all the mentioned diseases. Animal fat is evil and only plant oils are OK. Carbohydrates are the only way to go. People of the Earth: eat grass and sugar...

Even though it has been proven many times by independent tests and studies (and only those that weren't sponsored by food companies may be considered valid, for obvious reasons) that the sentence above is a load of bollocks and it is in fact the other way around. *sarcasm*

Another proof of jewish conspiracy to kill the Gentiles.


Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War!
/Mike




From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs






The views of vegetarians fall into two main points. One meat is unhealthy to the body so they avoid it. And two is the ethicial debate of slaughtering of animals for food.

The first point is correct is we are looking at factory farmed meat as its loaded with toxic crap, the two major flu viruses that hit N.America came from factory farming operations. If one switches to proper organic meats the first point is cancelled out. The second point is true once again if one looks at the factory farming. But the ethicial animal farms are different and the aspect of killing the animal for food is the way of nature. Beckett studies found plants are just as conscious as animals and react to pain and fear the same way. So the ethic debate is settled. And becomes a matter of bias of what kingdom of life you consider more sentimental about.

The fact is only about 15 to 30% of plant protein can be used by the body and its a weak protein. All plant food is missing B12 as well. Without good B12 levels one can go into a coma and die its vital for brain and gut functioning. The whole vegan population has to take B12 supplements to stay alive but very litte of non-vegan populations have to do this. Then the quality of the synthetic B12 is low.

The final fact is humans have been eating meat from what has been traced back to our most earliest know pre human ancestors in the fossil record of 3.4 million years we are adapted for this by millions of years of evolution. And despite the claims of some vegans who like to point to other animals in a natural fallacy attempt. Cows, Horses and others have a different biology and the Chimps they love to point to as our nearest non-human relative of which we split from millions of years ago as vegan eaters. Also eat meat, they eat hunt rival Chimps in packs and kill and eat them.etc





From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:03:14 AM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs





I think of vegetarians as the sexists of food. I love meat, its the point of water meal I'm eating. or sometimes eggs are. but usually meat. matter of fact, I'm about to say hello to the ham in the fridge.




To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 00:56:47 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs




The long list of people who have ruined their health or literally died from new aged vegan/vegetarian diets is long. Its to the point most of the ideological vegans are only vegan several days a week in private. But seven days a week in public. And the list of jews pushing this is long.

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http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/kdani ... teve-jobs/

Steve Jobs died October 5, and the animal rights organization PETA stepped right up to honor him as a vegetarian who was deeply committed to animal welfare and the environment. PETA, of course, has yet to acknowledge the role that Jobs's near vegan diet may have played in his death, and continues to maintain that their particular brand of "right eating" will virtually guarantee freedom from cancer and other major health
problems.

When I blogged about this topic in October, I promised I would follow up once I learned more about Jobs's dietary habits from Walter Isaacson's biography Steve Jobs (Simon & Schuster, 2011). This column delivers on that promise.

The bullet points below include every reference to diet in the entire book, followed by page numbers. My brief comments are found at the very end.

•Jobs came to appreciate organic fruits and vegetables as a teenager when a neighbor taught him how to be a good organic gardener and to compost. (14)
•Between his sophomore and junior hear of high school, he began smoking marijuana regularly and by his senior year was dabbling in LSD as well as exploring the mind bending effect of sleep deprivation (18-19)
•Toward the end of his senior year in high school, he began his "lifelong experiments with compulsive diets, eating only fruits and vegetables so he was as lean and tight as a whippet"
(31)
•He attended the love festivals at the local Hare Krishna temple, and went to the Zen center for free vegetarian meals. (35)
•He was greatly influenced by the book Diet for a Small Planet by Frances Moore Lappe. At that point he swore off meat for good and began embracing extreme diets, which included purges, fasts or eating only one or two foods , such as carrots or apples for weeks on end. (36)
•For awhile at college, Jobs lived on Roman Meal cereal. He would buy a box, which would last a week, then flats of dates, almonds and a lot of carrots. He made carrot juice with a Champion juicer, and at one point turned "a sunset-like orange hue." (36)
•His dietary habits became more obsessive when he read the Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret. Jobs then favored eating nothing but fruits and starchless vegetables, which he said prevented the body from forming harmful mucus, and determined to regularly cleanse his body
through prolonged fasts. That meant no more Roman Meal cereal — or any bread, grains, or milk for that matter. At one point, he spent an entire week eating only apples, and then began to try even purer fasts. He started with two day fasts and eventually stretched them out to a week or more, breaking them with large amounts of water and leafy vegetables. "After a week, you start to feel fantastic," he said. "You get a ton of vitality from not having to digest all this food. I was in great shape I felt I could get up and walk to San Francisco anytime I wanted." (36)
•As a $5 an hour technician at Atari, he was known as "a hippie with b.o." and "impossible to deal with." He clung to the belief that his fruit-heavy vegetarian diet would prevent not just mucus but also body odor. As Isaacson writes "It was a flawed theory." (43)
•"He was doing a lot of soul-searching about being adopted . . . (with) the primal scream and the mucusless diets, he
was trying to cleanse himself and get deeper into his frustration about his birth." (51)
•He was a fan of the Whole Earth Catalog and particularly taken by the final issue, which came out in 1971 when he was still in high school. On the back cover it said "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." (59)
•The name Apple Computers came to him when he was on one of his fruitarian diets. "I had just come back from the apple farm. It sounded fun, spirited and not intimidating. Apple took the edge off the word `computer.'" (63)
•His mother Clara Jobs didn't mind losing most of her house to piles of computer parts and house guests, but she was frustrated by her son's increasingly quirky diets. She would roll her eyes at his latest eating obsessions. She just wanted him to be healthy, and he would be making weird pronouncements like, "I'm a fruitarian and I will only eat leaves picked by virgins in the moonlight." (68)
•He was still convinced against all
evidence that his vegan diet meant that he didn't need to use a deodorant or take regular showers. . . . At meetings people had to look at his dirty feet. Sometimes to relieve stress, he would soak his feet in the toilet. (82)
•A colleague who recommended he bathe more often was told that "in exchange" he would have to read fruitarian diet books. "Steve was adamant that he bathed once a week, and that was adequate as long as he was eating a fruitarian diet." (82-83)
•In 1979 or so he "put aside drugs, eased away from being a strict vegan, and cut back the time he spent on Zen retreats." (91)
•He decreed that the sodas in the office refrigerator be replaced by Odwalla organic orange and carrot juices." (118)
•The kitchen was stocked daily with Odwalla juices (142)
•At the launch of the Lisa computer in 1983, he ate a special vegan meal at the Four Seasons restaurant (152)
•He had edged away from his strict vegan diet for the
time being and ate vegetarian omelets. (155)
•In 1984 in Italy, Jobs demanded a vegan meal and became extremely angry when the waiter very elaborately proceeded to dish out a sauce filled with sour cream. (185)
•The meal for his 30th birthday celebration included goat cheese and salmon mousse. (189)
•He had a lot of mannerisms. He bit his nails. His hands were "slightly and inexplicably yellow" and in constant motion. (223)
•At a meal with Mitch Kapor, the chairman of Lotus software, Jobs was horrified to see Kapor slathering butter on his bread, and asked, "Have you ever heard of serum cholesterol?" Kapor responded, "I'll make you a deal. You stay away from commenting on my dietary habits, and I will stay away from the subject of your personality." (224)
•At a 1988 NeXT product launch, the lunch menu included mineral water, croissants, cream cheese, bean sprouts. (233)
•Jobs was a vegetarian and so was Chrisann, the mother
of his daughter Lisa. Lisa was not vegetarian, but Jobs was fine with that. "Eating chicken became her little indulgence as she shuttled between two parents who were vegetarians with a spiritual regard for natural foods." Jobs's "dietary fixations came in fanatic waves," and he was "fastidious" about what he ate. Lisa watched him "spit out a mouthful of soup one day after learning that it contained butter." (259-260)
•"Even at a young age Lisa began to realize his diet obsessions reflected a life philosophy, one in which asceticism and minimalism could heighten subsequent sensations. He believed that great harvests came from arid sources, pleasure from restraint. He knew the equations that most people didn't know: Things led to their opposites." (259-260)
•Once he took Lisa on a business trip to Tokyo and they stayed at the Okura Hotel. At the elegant downstairs sushi bar, Jobs ordered large trays of unagi sushi, a dish he loved so much that
he allowed the warm cooked eel to pass muster as vegetarian. Lisa later wrote, "It was the first time, I'd felt with him, so relaxed and content, over those trays of meat; the excess, the permission and warmth after the cold salads, meant a once inaccessible space had opened. He was less rigid with himself, even human under the great ceilings with the little chairs with the meat and me." (260-261)
•Jobs had hired a hip young couple who had once worked at Chez Panisse as housekeepers ands vegetarian cooks (264)
•At his wedding to Laurene Powell, the cake was in the shape of Yosemite's Half Dome. It was strictly vegan and more than a few of the guest found it inedible. (274)
•"Since his early teens, he had indulged his weird obsession with extremely restrictive diets and fasts. Even after he married and had children, he retained his dubious eating habits. He would spend weeks eating the same thing — carrot salad with lemon, or just apples
— and then suddenly spurn that food and declare that he had stopped eating it. He would go on fasts, just as he did as a teenager and he became sanctimonious as he lectured others at the table on the virtues of whatever eating regimen he was following." (477)
•Jobs's wife, Laurene Powell, had been a vegan when they first married, but after her husband's first cancer operation, the partial Whipple procedure, she began to diversify the family meals with fish and other proteins. Their son, Reed, who had been a vegetarian, became a "hearty omnivore." They knew it was important for Steve to get diverse sources of protein. (477)
•Early in 2008, Jobs's eating disorders got worse. On some nights he would stare at the floor and ignore all of the dishes set out on the long kitchen table. He lost 40 pounds during the spring of 2008.
•Dr James Eason "would even stop at the convenience store to get the energy drinks Jobs liked." (485)
•He
remained a finicky eater, which was more of a problem than ever. He would eat only fruit smoothies and he would demand that seven or eight of them be lined up so he could find an option that might satisfy him. He would touch the spoon to his mouth for a tiny taste and pronounce `That's no good. That one's no good either.'" His doctor lectured him: "You know this isn't a matter of taste. Stop thinking of this as food. Start thinking of it as medicine." (486)
•Early in 2010, Jobs went to dinner and ordered a mango smoothie and plain vegan pasta. (505)
•At the launch of the iPad2, Isaacson reported "For a change he was eating, though still with some pickiness. He ordered fresh squeezed juice, which he sent back three times, declaring that each new offering was from a bottle, and a pasta primavera which he shoved away as inedible after one taste. But then he ate half of my crab Louise salad and ordered a full one for himself followed by a bowl of
ice cream." (527)
•"Jobs's eating problems were exacerbated over the years by his psychological attitude toward food. When he was young, he learned that he could induce euphoria and ecstasy by fasting. So even though he knew that he should eat — his doctors were begging him to consume high-quality protein –lingering in the back of his subconscious, he admitted was his instinct for fasting and for diets like Arnold Ehret's fruit regimen that he had embraced as a teenager. Powell kept telling him it was crazy. `I wanted him to force himself to eat,' she said `and it was incredibly tense at home.'" (548-549)
•Bryar Brown, their part-time cook, would prepare an array of healthy dishes, but Jobs would touch his tongue to one or two dishes and then dismiss them all as inedible. One evening he announced, "I could probably eat a little pumpkin pie," and the even-tempered Brown created a beautiful pie from scratch in an hour. Jobs ate only one
bite, but Brown was thrilled." (549)
•During the final years of his life, Powell talked to eating disorder specialists and psychiatrists to try to get help, but her husband shunned them. (549)
That's it. Not a lot to work with, but more than enough to show a longstanding pattern of eating disorders.

On the plus side, Jobs's diet seems to have been consistently organic and high quality. He employed chefs who'd worked at Chef Panisse, and his wife Laurene Powell founded Terravera, a company that produces ready-to-eat organic meals for stores in northern California. Jobs does not appear to have ever been a junk-food vegan who indulged in all-American junk foods such as soda, chocolate, cookies and crackers.

Soy is not mentioned at all in Isaacson's biography. Although the Apple culture was soy friendly with soy milk readily available in vending machines and at coffee stations, Jobs himself may well have rejected it. Jobs had a
longstanding fascination with the book The Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret (1866-1922), who claimed the human body is an "air-gas engine" that runs well only on fruits, starchless vegetables and edible green leaves. Soy and other legumes, according to Ehret's way of thinking, were to be disdained as mucus-producing forbidden foods. Ehret not only condemned protein and fat as "unnatural" but said they could not be used by the body. Inspired by such theories, Jobs appears to have eaten a diet low in both fat and protein for most of his life. And what did he eat instead? Carbs high in fructose.

Whether or not Jobs was in one of his fanatic fruitarian phases, he favored a lot of fruit and fruit juice. These are not only high on the glycemic index, but loaded with fructose. Fruits and fruit juices greatly stress the liver and pancreas, contribute to diabetes and many other blood sugar disorders, and have been linked to pancreatic cancer.
Jobs suffered from a type of pancreatic cancer known as islet cell carcinoma, which originates in the insulin-secreting beta cells.

Research published in the November 2007 issue of American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was "evidence for a greater pancreatic cancer risk with a high intake of fruit and juices but not with a high intake of sodas." More recently, in the August 2010 issue of Cancer Research, Dr. Anthony Healy of UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center proposed that aberrant fructose metabolism — and not just aberrant glucose metabolism — might be involved in the pathogenesis of pancreatic cancer. Seems fructose provides the raw material cancer cells prefer to use to make the DNA they need to divide and proliferate. Although the UCLA findings are preliminary and more research needs to be done, the Reuters headline "Cancer Cells Slurp Up Fructose" is fair warning to all of us addicted to fruit and fruit juices, organic or
otherwise.

Clearly Jobs broke away from strict veganism from time to time to indulge in a few eggs, salmon and unagi sushi. The words of his daughter Lisa (quoted above) provide a moving testimony to how well Jobs's body and mind responded to eating eel, a fish rich in protein and fat. That said, vegans who would like to think Jobs became sick because he failed to be "perfect vegan" now have evidence to support that belief.
 
..Hail Satan!! Yes, check the meat more carefully and ALWAYS buy organic grassfed beef if at all possible. Here is a story I have been following for a while now since fast foods such as McDonalds first rejected this 'meat product' recently due to it being exposed what thier 'meat' really contains. And if McDonalds rejects it, what does that tell you? lol Now, they shipped this to school lunch programs instead. {again kike targets young kids} but it's also in
almost all beef. It's sick what they do! not only worry about gmo but this
http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/8 ... 00153.html
At least people waking up and start petions, but there is a long way to go what they have done to our food supply.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Mike <misza2@... wrote:

Hey, thanks for the link and response.
Gotta check that one out.
I don't eat/buy vegetables and fruts so this particular example won't affect me but I'm sure many will find it very helpful :D
I do have to check meat more carefully now I know what to look for.

Of course FDA knows better what is good for people; after all the general population are idiots and cripples who need to be led by hand for their own good. And no money from different sources were involved. *sigh*
It is enough to watch a movie or two about Monsanto (or Montsano) to know that gmo causes sterility and mutations in animals; now they want to controll the whole world's food market.
But no, our governments don't know about any ill side effects of Frankenfood. As if it was properly set up and tested.
There's no way of telling how exactly modified genotype will affect the human population in all the ways. We will know that once people are fed up with that gmo crap long enough and someone conducts a raliable, not biased studies and experiments. We do know about sterility. And that's not all of it.
Scientists and biologists play and experiment with things they know next to nothing about, so waht is to be expected... Not to mention that many do that in hope of doing as much harm as possible.


 
Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War! 
/Mike


________________________________
From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs


 
Here is a interesting article on how to id GMO foods at the market:
 
 
http://blog.friendseat.com/how-to-id-ge ... upermarket
 
Not many consumers realize that the FDA does not require genetically modified food to be labeled. That’s because the FDA has decided that you, dear consumer, don’t care if the tomato you’re eating has been cross bred with frog genes to render the tomato more resistant to cold weather. Some consumers may not be concerned with eating Frankenfood, but for those who are, here’s how to determine if the fruits and vegetables you’re buying are (GM) genetically modified.
Hat tip to Marion Owen for her valuable information.

Here’s how it works:
For conventionally grown fruit, (grown with chemicals inputs), the PLU code on the sticker consists of four numbers.

Organically grown fruit has a five-numeral PLU prefaced by the number 9.

Genetically engineered (GM) fruit has a five-numeral PLU prefaced by the number 8.

For example:

A conventionally grown banana would be: 4011

An organic banana would be: 94011

A genetically engineered (GE or GMO) banana would be: 84011

These tips are specially important now that over 80% of all processed foods in the US are genetically modified. Many countries in the European Union have been banning GM products and produce (including Austria, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary and Luxembourg). We say “Eat healthy, buy or grow organic”.
 
 
 

From: Mike <misza2@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 7:24:59 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs


 
Exactly.

And gmo corn or others (soya beans) are no safer than factory farmed meat. With all the chemicals put into them during growth on top of that.

What You mentioned: meat and animal fat is the food that human genotype was evolving on. Humans were eating grass only when they had to - not because they liked it.
Meat and animal fat is The Food :D Provided it's not packed with toxic wastes and is genuine.
All the so called authorities practically force a meat free, especially fat free diet on population. Everything is fat free or at least, low fat. And where it did take Us? People following such "advices" eat almost only carbohydrates... Be it in form of factory made sugar or plants. And here we have them, all of the so called civilization diseases: diabetes, high blood pressure to neme just two. All those diseases kill thousands of people each year. That's what we got from trying to be smarter than nature.
Human biology cannot be decieved. Not for long.
The person that came up with "5 a day" and basically all mainstream dieticians are nothing but criminals.


*sarcasm* A food for thought (darn it did come out nicely :D): isn't it interesting how all the companies, corporations and government run agencies promote that "one and only true and healthy" way of life? They are fanatics of those programs...

Cholesterol has been labelled "evil" and is accused of causing all the mentioned diseases. Animal fat is evil and only plant oils are OK. Carbohydrates are the only way to go. People of the Earth: eat grass and sugar...

Even though it has been proven many times by independent tests and studies (and only those that weren't sponsored by food companies may be considered valid, for obvious reasons) that the sentence above is a load of bollocks and it is in fact the other way around. *sarcasm*

Another proof of jewish conspiracy to kill the Gentiles.


Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War!
/Mike

From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs


 
The views of vegetarians fall into two main points. One meat is unhealthy to the body so they avoid it. And two is the ethicial debate of slaughtering of animals for food.
 
The first point is correct is we are looking at factory farmed meat as its loaded with toxic crap, the two major flu viruses that hit N.America came from factory farming operations. If one switches to proper organic meats the first point is cancelled out. The second point is true once again if one looks at the factory farming. But the ethicial animal farms are different and the aspect of killing the animal for food is the way of nature. Beckett studies found plants are just as conscious as animals and react to pain and fear the same way. So the ethic debate is settled. And becomes a matter of bias of what kingdom of life you consider more sentimental about.
 
The fact is only about 15 to 30% of plant protein can be used by the body and its a weak protein. All plant food is missing B12 as well. Without good B12 levels one can go into a coma and die its vital for brain and gut functioning. The whole vegan population has to take B12 supplements to stay alive but very litte  of non-vegan populations have to do this. Then the quality of the synthetic B12 is low.
 
The final fact is humans have been eating meat from what has been traced back to our most earliest know pre human ancestors in the fossil record of 3.4 million years we are adapted for this by millions of years of evolution. And despite the claims of some vegans who like to point to other animals in a natural fallacy attempt. Cows, Horses and others have a different biology and the Chimps they love to point to as our nearest non-human relative of which we split from millions of years ago as vegan eaters. Also eat meat, they eat hunt rival Chimps in packs and kill and eat them.etc

From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:03:14 AM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs


 
I think of vegetarians as the sexists of food. I love meat, its the point of water meal I'm eating. or sometimes eggs are. but usually meat. matter of fact, I'm about to say hello to the ham in the fridge.
 

To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: mageson6666@...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 00:56:47 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Extreme Diets Of Steve Jobs

 
The long list of people who have ruined their health or literally died from new aged vegan/vegetarian diets is long. Its to the point most of the ideological vegans are only vegan several days a week in private. But seven days a week in public. And the list of jews pushing this is long.

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Steve Jobs died October 5, and the animal rights organization PETA stepped right up to honor him as a vegetarian who was deeply committed to animal welfare and the environment. PETA, of course, has yet to acknowledge the role that Jobs's near vegan diet may have played in his death, and continues to maintain that their particular brand of "right eating" will virtually guarantee freedom from cancer and other major health problems.

When I blogged
about this topic in October, I promised I would follow up once I learned more about Jobs's dietary habits from Walter Isaacson's biography Steve Jobs (Simon & Schuster, 2011). This column delivers on that promise.

The bullet points below include every reference to diet in the entire book, followed by page numbers. My brief comments are found at the very end.

•Jobs came to appreciate organic fruits and vegetables as a teenager when a neighbor taught him how to be a good organic gardener and to compost. (14)
•Between his sophomore and junior hear of high school, he began smoking marijuana regularly and by his senior year was dabbling in LSD as well as exploring the mind bending effect of sleep deprivation (18-19)
•Toward the end of his senior year in high school, he began his "lifelong experiments with compulsive diets, eating only fruits and vegetables so he was as lean and tight as a whippet" (31)
•He attended the love
festivals at the local Hare Krishna temple, and went to the Zen center for free vegetarian meals. (35)
•He was greatly influenced by the book Diet for a Small Planet by Frances Moore Lappe. At that point he swore off meat for good and began embracing extreme diets, which included purges, fasts or eating only one or two foods , such as carrots or apples for weeks on end. (36)
•For awhile at college, Jobs lived on Roman Meal cereal. He would buy a box, which would last a week, then flats of dates, almonds and a lot of carrots. He made carrot juice with a Champion juicer, and at one point turned "a sunset-like orange hue." (36)
•His dietary habits became more obsessive when he read the Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret. Jobs then favored eating nothing but fruits and starchless vegetables, which he said prevented the body from forming harmful mucus, and determined to regularly cleanse his body through prolonged fasts. That meant
no more Roman Meal cereal â€" or any bread, grains, or milk for that matter. At one point, he spent an entire week eating only apples, and then began to try even purer fasts. He started with two day fasts and eventually stretched them out to a week or more, breaking them with large amounts of water and leafy vegetables. "After a week, you start to feel fantastic," he said. "You get a ton of vitality from not having to digest all this food. I was in great shape I felt I could get up and walk to San Francisco anytime I wanted." (36)
•As a $5 an hour technician at Atari, he was known as "a hippie with b.o." and "impossible to deal with." He clung to the belief that his fruit-heavy vegetarian diet would prevent not just mucus but also body odor. As Isaacson writes "It was a flawed theory." (43)
•"He was doing a lot of soul-searching about being adopted . . . (with) the primal scream and the mucusless diets, he was trying to cleanse himself and get
deeper into his frustration about his birth." (51)
•He was a fan of the Whole Earth Catalog and particularly taken by the final issue, which came out in 1971 when he was still in high school. On the back cover it said "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." (59)
•The name Apple Computers came to him when he was on one of his fruitarian diets. "I had just come back from the apple farm. It sounded fun, spirited and not intimidating. Apple took the edge off the word `computer.'" (63)
•His mother Clara Jobs didn't mind losing most of her house to piles of computer parts and house guests, but she was frustrated by her son's increasingly quirky diets. She would roll her eyes at his latest eating obsessions. She just wanted him to be healthy, and he would be making weird pronouncements like, "I'm a fruitarian and I will only eat leaves picked by virgins in the moonlight." (68)
•He was still convinced against all evidence that his vegan diet meant that
he didn't need to use a deodorant or take regular showers. . . . At meetings people had to look at his dirty feet. Sometimes to relieve stress, he would soak his feet in the toilet. (82)
•A colleague who recommended he bathe more often was told that "in exchange" he would have to read fruitarian diet books. "Steve was adamant that he bathed once a week, and that was adequate as long as he was eating a fruitarian diet." (82-83)
•In 1979 or so he "put aside drugs, eased away from being a strict vegan, and cut back the time he spent on Zen retreats." (91)
•He decreed that the sodas in the office refrigerator be replaced by Odwalla organic orange and carrot juices." (118)
•The kitchen was stocked daily with Odwalla juices (142)
•At the launch of the Lisa computer in 1983, he ate a special vegan meal at the Four Seasons restaurant (152)
•He had edged away from his strict vegan diet for the time being and ate vegetarian omelets.
(155)
•In 1984 in Italy, Jobs demanded a vegan meal and became extremely angry when the waiter very elaborately proceeded to dish out a sauce filled with sour cream. (185)
•The meal for his 30th birthday celebration included goat cheese and salmon mousse. (189)
•He had a lot of mannerisms. He bit his nails. His hands were "slightly and inexplicably yellow" and in constant motion. (223)
•At a meal with Mitch Kapor, the chairman of Lotus software, Jobs was horrified to see Kapor slathering butter on his bread, and asked, "Have you ever heard of serum cholesterol?" Kapor responded, "I'll make you a deal. You stay away from commenting on my dietary habits, and I will stay away from the subject of your personality." (224)
•At a 1988 NeXT product launch, the lunch menu included mineral water, croissants, cream cheese, bean sprouts. (233)
•Jobs was a vegetarian and so was Chrisann, the mother of his daughter Lisa. Lisa was not
vegetarian, but Jobs was fine with that. "Eating chicken became her little indulgence as she shuttled between two parents who were vegetarians with a spiritual regard for natural foods." Jobs's "dietary fixations came in fanatic waves," and he was "fastidious" about what he ate. Lisa watched him "spit out a mouthful of soup one day after learning that it contained butter." (259-260)
•"Even at a young age Lisa began to realize his diet obsessions reflected a life philosophy, one in which asceticism and minimalism could heighten subsequent sensations. He believed that great harvests came from arid sources, pleasure from restraint. He knew the equations that most people didn't know: Things led to their opposites." (259-260)
•Once he took Lisa on a business trip to Tokyo and they stayed at the Okura Hotel. At the elegant downstairs sushi bar, Jobs ordered large trays of unagi sushi, a dish he loved so much that he allowed the warm cooked eel to
pass muster as vegetarian. Lisa later wrote, "It was the first time, I'd felt with him, so relaxed and content, over those trays of meat; the excess, the permission and warmth after the cold salads, meant a once inaccessible space had opened. He was less rigid with himself, even human under the great ceilings with the little chairs with the meat and me." (260-261)
•Jobs had hired a hip young couple who had once worked at Chez Panisse as housekeepers ands vegetarian cooks (264)
•At his wedding to Laurene Powell, the cake was in the shape of Yosemite's Half Dome. It was strictly vegan and more than a few of the guest found it inedible. (274)
•"Since his early teens, he had indulged his weird obsession with extremely restrictive diets and fasts. Even after he married and had children, he retained his dubious eating habits. He would spend weeks eating the same thing â€" carrot salad with lemon, or just apples â€" and then suddenly spurn that
food and declare that he had stopped eating it. He would go on fasts, just as he did as a teenager and he became sanctimonious as he lectured others at the table on the virtues of whatever eating regimen he was following." (477)
•Jobs's wife, Laurene Powell, had been a vegan when they first married, but after her husband's first cancer operation, the partial Whipple procedure, she began to diversify the family meals with fish and other proteins. Their son, Reed, who had been a vegetarian, became a "hearty omnivore." They knew it was important for Steve to get diverse sources of protein. (477)
•Early in 2008, Jobs's eating disorders got worse. On some nights he would stare at the floor and ignore all of the dishes set out on the long kitchen table. He lost 40 pounds during the spring of 2008.
•Dr James Eason "would even stop at the convenience store to get the energy drinks Jobs liked." (485)
•He remained a finicky eater, which was
more of a problem than ever. He would eat only fruit smoothies and he would demand that seven or eight of them be lined up so he could find an option that might satisfy him. He would touch the spoon to his mouth for a tiny taste and pronounce `That's no good. That one's no good either.'" His doctor lectured him: "You know this isn't a matter of taste. Stop thinking of this as food. Start thinking of it as medicine." (486)
•Early in 2010, Jobs went to dinner and ordered a mango smoothie and plain vegan pasta. (505)
•At the launch of the iPad2, Isaacson reported "For a change he was eating, though still with some pickiness. He ordered fresh squeezed juice, which he sent back three times, declaring that each new offering was from a bottle, and a pasta primavera which he shoved away as inedible after one taste. But then he ate half of my crab Louise salad and ordered a full one for himself followed by a bowl of ice cream." (527)
•"Jobs's
eating problems were exacerbated over the years by his psychological attitude toward food. When he was young, he learned that he could induce euphoria and ecstasy by fasting. So even though he knew that he should eat â€" his doctors were begging him to consume high-quality protein â€"lingering in the back of his subconscious, he admitted was his instinct for fasting and for diets like Arnold Ehret's fruit regimen that he had embraced as a teenager. Powell kept telling him it was crazy. `I wanted him to force himself to eat,' she said `and it was incredibly tense at home.'" (548-549)
•Bryar Brown, their part-time cook, would prepare an array of healthy dishes, but Jobs would touch his tongue to one or two dishes and then dismiss them all as inedible. One evening he announced, "I could probably eat a little pumpkin pie," and the even-tempered Brown created a beautiful pie from scratch in an hour. Jobs ate only one bite, but Brown was thrilled."
(549)
•During the final years of his life, Powell talked to eating disorder specialists and psychiatrists to try to get help, but her husband shunned them. (549)
That's it. Not a lot to work with, but more than enough to show a longstanding pattern of eating disorders.

On the plus side, Jobs's diet seems to have been consistently organic and high quality. He employed chefs who'd worked at Chef Panisse, and his wife Laurene Powell founded Terravera, a company that produces ready-to-eat organic meals for stores in northern California. Jobs does not appear to have ever been a junk-food vegan who indulged in all-American junk foods such as soda, chocolate, cookies and crackers.

Soy is not mentioned at all in Isaacson's biography. Although the Apple culture was soy friendly with soy milk readily available in vending machines and at coffee stations, Jobs himself may well have rejected it. Jobs had a longstanding fascination with the book
The Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret (1866-1922), who claimed the human body is an "air-gas engine" that runs well only on fruits, starchless vegetables and edible green leaves. Soy and other legumes, according to Ehret's way of thinking, were to be disdained as mucus-producing forbidden foods. Ehret not only condemned protein and fat as "unnatural" but said they could not be used by the body. Inspired by such theories, Jobs appears to have eaten a diet low in both fat and protein for most of his life. And what did he eat instead? Carbs high in fructose.

Whether or not Jobs was in one of his fanatic fruitarian phases, he favored a lot of fruit and fruit juice. These are not only high on the glycemic index, but loaded with fructose. Fruits and fruit juices greatly stress the liver and pancreas, contribute to diabetes and many other blood sugar disorders, and have been linked to pancreatic cancer. Jobs suffered from a type of
pancreatic cancer known as islet cell carcinoma, which originates in the insulin-secreting beta cells.

Research published in the November 2007 issue of American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was "evidence for a greater pancreatic cancer risk with a high intake of fruit and juices but not with a high intake of sodas." More recently, in the August 2010 issue of Cancer Research, Dr. Anthony Healy of UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center proposed that aberrant fructose metabolism â€" and not just aberrant glucose metabolism â€" might be involved in the pathogenesis of pancreatic cancer. Seems fructose provides the raw material cancer cells prefer to use to make the DNA they need to divide and proliferate. Although the UCLA findings are preliminary and more research needs to be done, the Reuters headline "Cancer Cells Slurp Up Fructose" is fair warning to all of us addicted to fruit and fruit juices, organic or otherwise.

Clearly Jobs
broke away from strict veganism from time to time to indulge in a few eggs, salmon and unagi sushi. The words of his daughter Lisa (quoted above) provide a moving testimony to how well Jobs's body and mind responded to eating eel, a fish rich in protein and fat. That said, vegans who would like to think Jobs became sick because he failed to be "perfect vegan" now have evidence to support that belief.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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