Jack
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Rook said:I'm not sure about you, but people listen to music while they're conscious, not unconscious or do you simply knock yourself out whenever music starts playing?Scion of Atlantis said:This nonsense all started from the absurd idea that the Gods are apparently keeping us as sheltered spiritual infants with no personal responsibility or the ability to choose what we want as Satanists to influence us or not. Music is vibration that gets into one's subconscious and often manipulates their thoughts and emotions, and plenty of Satanists listen to music, do the Gods suddenly turn off the audio and give us a little chastisement for listening to something that might be negative? Oh wait, what's this void meditation they taught to us along with countless other spiritual disciplines to hone our minds and allow us to fully control our emotions? It isn't hard to understand the difference between two Satanists cursing/binding each other and standing in the way of Satan's work being carried out, and the OP's case. The energy and intention is drastically different and that's what makes the spell what it is.
Speaking of manipulation and the subconscious, you can see a little bit of the subconscious Xtian programming coming out here with the posts claiming that the Gods are going to flip out about a man's ex girlfriend using spirituality taught by them to manipulate his emotions in a way he has no problem with, has full control over, serves as a spiritual lesson to him, and has positive intentions/energy behind it. One should always analyze their own thoughts and the garbage that might be seeping out of them before seeking to "correct" others and assume the Gods will do such and such. This is why deprogramming from lifetimes of Xtianity and related enemy programs is so important and something that often takes many years to achieve. Wiccans are often afraid to even attempt to cast simple spells because of the Xtianized "Gods will punish you if you do x, y, and z" lie. Hopefully that's all that needs be said as this is just common sense like I said in my last few posts.
@Jack you had no need to "put your pride elsewhere" since these guys needed a refresher on all of this to begin with.
Yes people put a lot of effort into getting their music to affect the subconscious via subliminal messages, but that compared to psychically programming someone while they're unconscious is a weak comparison.
Satan's work? what you mean manipulating someone into liking them?
lol
programming someone to like you and to find you irresistible is a binding, did i really have to point this out for you?
just because it's used for love doesn't mean it isn't manipulation lol.
(A premonition is not always for something bad.The caster may have genuinely good intentions in mind.)Love magick can be ethical or unethical, or with good or bad goals in mind. It cannot be treated as a singular condition. Also, love is a very complicated matter, and said matters, should ideally be dealt with conscience and maturity, but this is not always the case.
(Free Will =/= Binding)If the girl did a spell to you, the Gods wouldn't "protect" you from it unless it was a big danger. The fact that you are aware of it means that you are capable to decide the outcome of said event, even if you are emotionally inflated from this.
(Free Will =/= Binding)Despite of which of the above this is the case, this is clearly not beyond you, and even if intended for manipulative purposes, you have the free will to decide, that was earned to you by you spiritually advancing and being aware.
(OP said he truly truly loves her even before this.)For all of this to be possible in the first place, there is some clause in yourself that still has something for this particular girl or person.
(Unconscious =/= extremely vulnerable to change for a Satanist.)Depending on your decision you have to deal with this and decide. As far as the Gods in this case, you have a choice, so that is them, considering your dream showed that she essentially may have 'overpowered you, even in hypothetical circumstance. This can happen with some people who may have natural potential even if they do not meditate, compared to a new or unpracticed Satanist, but this doesn't mean that what they do will work necessarily.
Rook wrote:
just because it's used for love doesn't mean it isn't manipulation lol.
Manipulation meaning:
https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/dictionary.cambridge.org/amp/english/manipulationmainly disapproving controlling someone or something to your own advantage, often unfairly or dishonestly:
They have been accused of fraud and stock market manipulations.
There's been so much media manipulation of the facts that nobody knows the truth of the matter.
The country's opposition party claims the president returned to power through political manipulation.
I'm not sure what kind of pathological nihilist would think that love always = manipulation. But you seem like that kind of person to me. This situation definitely does not look like a manipulate ,dishonest,lying kind of love to Me and I wouldn't call that love to begin with. I feel you have been suffering in life to develop this kind of brutal nihilism. I'm sorry for you brother, but unfortunately I can't do anything to cure you of it. I do hope you get over it one day and see what the world has to offer.