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Apokovyski said:
I'm asking this because I'm really wondering...

Why don't you and other priests do a ritual or magic etc. etc. about money to help jos ?
Even a High priest is bad at gaining money ?
Or Satan can't help it's own foundation?

It's kinda interesting that you want donations so much. And I really wonder why do SATAN AND THE GODS need that money ? (Even that Some gods are good at money or wealth stuff)

Don't say me about Catholic church shit or Islam shit.

There are many reasons at play here:

It is not that Cobra cannot find the money on his own, but that would still leave him bankrolling the entire operation. It would lessen the burden if everyone was to contribute.

Satan and the Gods help us in many ways, including getting us to the point where we can do our own magic. We can handle our own website maintenance. This is not an emergency situation where Cobra has $0 in the bank, but rather that proper funding channels need to be set up for long-term growth.

These donations go mainly to website maintenance, of which special circumstances are needed for security. JoS is not like other websites. Beyond this, more ambitious projects may be planned.

The Gods themselves do not take our money. They do not need our wealth, and even if they did, what are they to do with our specific currency? They cannot remove it from Earth, at least in any way that is practical.
 
VoiceofEnki said:
Apokovyski said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
BUT: "I don't have 50 dollars to send the JoS!"

Answer: "How can I make 50 dollars extra to send to JoS?", "How can I fix my financial situation to be able to help JoS and the Gods more and improve myself too while I am at it?", "Maybe I am too much of a pussy and a coward, that even though I am a millionaire or gazillionaire, I can't sacrifice 50 dollars [oy vey, too much money to send, my hand is trembling!!], and how much the Gods laugh at me all day for how much of a pussy I have become?" etc etc.

I'm asking this because I'm really wondering...

Why don't you and other priests do a ritual or magic etc. etc. about money to help jos ?
Even a High priest is bad at gaining money ?
Or Satan can't help it's own foundation?

It's kinda interesting that you want donations so much. And I really wonder why do SATAN AND THE GODS need that money ? (Even that Some gods are good at money or wealth stuff)

Don't say me about Catholic church shit or Islam shit.

Do you see what you write yourself?

What a bunch of fucking ridiculous nonsense.

Shameful even that some of you legitimately are on such a pathetic level of mentality that this needs to be explained, and that these things are still asked, in spite of what HP HoodedCobra, Myself, Dahaarkhan and all the others here have already explained on this very topic.

You fail to even read the responses which clarify these things, which in te first place shouldn't even need to be clarified because it constitutes entirely basic human understanding that even my npc mother can understand.


When you learn to see the world like a human, maybe then you can have legitimate reason to ask a question about this.

Until then, stick to the kindergarten and enjoy your self in the sandpit.

Hail Satan!

Listen Man, I don't need Jos to understand how deceitful, liar and fake this world. I know it. Why do I trust someone on Internet :D ? I cannot even trust people on physical world just because Neptune positions or other kinda stuff. Why would I trust Cobra or Jos ? I haven't seen any evidence that Satan supporting Jos, in my 2 years of being with Jos. And you say "hmm, nonsense"

Also, this donation stuff makes me suspicious.
YOU KNOW, there is a lot of cheater in this world.
Maxine or Cobra could be one of them. There are not much evidence for trusting them. Also lot of people creating their own clergies for simply taking their money or deceive them.
Jos and it's priests maybe found their own way for this. I trust Satan. But not Jos. Cobra's post gave me a point.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Apokovyski said:
I'm asking this because I'm really wondering...

Why don't you and other priests do a ritual or magic etc. etc. about money to help jos ?
Even a High priest is bad at gaining money ?
Or Satan can't help it's own foundation?

It's kinda interesting that you want donations so much. And I really wonder why do SATAN AND THE GODS need that money ? (Even that Some gods are good at money or wealth stuff)

Don't say me about Catholic church shit or Islam shit.

There are many reasons at play here:

It is not that Cobra cannot find the money on his own, but that would still leave him bankrolling the entire operation. It would lessen the burden if everyone was to contribute.

Satan and the Gods help us in many ways, including getting us to the point where we can do our own magic. We can handle our own website maintenance. This is not an emergency situation where Cobra has $0 in the bank, but rather that proper funding channels need to be set up for long-term growth.

These donations go mainly to website maintenance, of which special circumstances are needed for security. JoS is not like other websites. Beyond this, more ambitious projects may be planned.

The Gods themselves do not take our money. They do not need our wealth, and even if they did, what are they to do with our specific currency? They cannot remove it from Earth, at least in any way that is practical.

Thanks Man, I understand why. I felt awkward forget about it. Anyways
 
Apokovyski said:
Listen Man, I don't need Jos to understand how deceitful, liar and fake this world. I know it. Why do I trust someone on Internet :D ? I cannot even trust people on physical world just because Neptune positions or other kinda stuff. Why would I trust Cobra or Jos ? I haven't seen any evidence that Satan supporting Jos, in my 2 years of being with Jos. And you say "hmm, nonsense"

Also, this donation stuff makes me suspicious.
YOU KNOW, there is a lot of cheater in this world.
Maxine or Cobra could be one of them. There are not much evidence for trusting them. Also lot of people creating their own clergies for simply taking their money or deceive them.
Jos and it's priests maybe found their own way for this. I trust Satan. But not Jos. Cobra's post gave me a point.
Your every argument is refuted many times in the past few days. Donations being a scam... Give me a break. What you are repeating at this point is nothing but retarded nonsense. You should spend some more time reading what people who have a clue over opining with your delusions. Open you eyes. JoS is attacked non stop day in day out and somehow it's still running. Yes, much of it is done by Humans, but the helping hand of Gods can not be ignored. How do you think that all of the work is funded, hello? Anyone home?
 
For those who asked why we can't do a group ritual on wealth etc, so money comes to him (HPHC) and then we wouldn't need to make donations. The post will also answer the similar questions, like why doesn't Satan(or gods/Demons) personally occupy him since he is the most supreme being in the universe, etc etc.

The others have already explained to you - ethical and moral side of the question - I will only write here about the technical aspect, strictly speaking.

As a first thing, you have to understand how energy works. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that money comes to him from the sky. You need the means. Without means, it will be difficult in order to achieve the goal. I give a trivial example, without the invention of the wheel, transportation will still be slow and difficult, as you have to load on a mule, etc etc. with wheel, it’s more easy. It is the same with HP Hooded. He takes up a large part of the time for us, and the rest for himself, so the means, that is, to finalize the purpose of energy (to get money to him) are limited. What does the energy do in this case? It seeks the shortest path, that is, the means that are immediately within its reach. I emphasize "within its reach." It means many things, there are a lot of variables to take into account, karmic factors, individual and collective, energy of the enemy, planetary energies, so on. i.e. He might, for example, have a negative transit and therefore the energy has more obstacles to cross. Another example I can give, is if you imagine yourself doing wealth rituals for yourself but at the same time doing nothing, how does the energy finalize? If you instead open a store, then the energy will have a much easier task, since it has so many means (hundreds of thousands of people in your city-that is, your potential customers) on which it can find the shortest path (certain right people, because of, precisely, the right coincidence).

So all of us SS, depending on the personal situation, some of us may be unaware the easiest mean of channeling energy, created by us through the wealth rituals we have done, or created by them (gods/demons), so on and so forth. I think that's what Hp Hooded meant when he said that those who donate are very much taken into consideration, because they constitute a means, that is, a channel, reliable for conveying money to the JoS. More means means more doors available to go through, as not all doors are always open (an example is that one door, i.e., a person, is going to have bad transit so it stays closed)

I hope I have explained it well, ciao!
 
Apokovyski said:
Listen Man, I don't need Jos to understand how deceitful, liar and fake this world. I know it. Why do I trust someone on Internet :D ? I cannot even trust people on physical world just because Neptune positions or other kinda stuff. Why would I trust Cobra or Jos ? I haven't seen any evidence that Satan supporting Jos, in my 2 years of being with Jos. And you say "hmm, nonsense"

Also, this donation stuff makes me suspicious.
YOU KNOW, there is a lot of cheater in this world.
Maxine or Cobra could be one of them. There are not much evidence for trusting them. Also lot of people creating their own clergies for simply taking their money or deceive them.
Jos and it's priests maybe found their own way for this. I trust Satan. But not Jos. Cobra's post gave me a point.

So that is how it is.

You turned against Satan because you convinced yourself somehow that the Joy of Satan, the sole Satanic organization which actually cares about Spirituality, Satan and the Gods, as well as the future of Gentile humanity, and which has proven its legitimacy beyond any doubts whatsoever over the past decades, especially the past 4 years, must be a place of scammers and crooks trying desperately to take your 5 shekels.


You may be one of the most idiotic people calling themselves SS that I have ever seen, however you should still be able to read one would hope.

Therefore, you should read what has been said on this thread, as this nonsense you continue to bring up has already been addressed over the past few days.


Let me ask you as well, what makes you so convinced that HP HoodedCobra must be trying to scam you of your 5 shekels by making these posts here?

If you'd stop to think with even 1 of your brain cells you'd see the fallacy in this idiotic nonsense.

Explain to me why you believe HP HoodedCobra is trying to scam you, or why the JoS is untrustworthy to your little mind.


I'd like to hear you rationalize these statements and show us your great extraordinary wisdom regarding these thoughts.

Enlighten us will you?


Hail Satan!
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
RED DAWN said:
Ive been influenced by the enemy for who knows how long, fuck.

Im able to remember how this was being done, despite them trying to make the situation confusing. Unfortunately I doubt I can really prevent it from happening, as in the moment I knew it was irrational but I didn't care. They spoke to my subconscious, rather than in a way I could understand as a usual interaction with an entity takes place.

I'm guessing this same entity manipulated mageson, exploiting their jealousy of HPHC and their general suspicion towards the RTRs. This entity exploited sensitive topics with me, pretend to be a God and told me I was irredeemable and would be smited if I did not submit. I told them I wouldn't because I have prior obligations I'd never betray, accepting even supposed soul death. Then they periodically took away my ability to recognize faces, trying to manipulate me into thinking they were a God teaching me a moral lesson. They tried to kill my friend that I wouldn't betray as well.

This entity didn't feel like an enemy at all, it felt like nothing. If anything it felt like me. It drained the fuck out of me after meditating for hours, when I woke up it felt like I had surgery on my solar plexus. My body also undergone some kind of chemical detox, I believe.

Anyway, I think it's best that I leave and sort this out on my own. This also reminds me of another very serious incident my group had.

Everything you have just described is actually a common problem for jews who try to use the gentile spiritual workings we have here. Because our souls are a different and opposite structure from each other, they are not compatible and instructions for the two designs are not interchangeable.

Look at One Wire Phenomenon. His story is the same as yours. He was a jew who tried to use our information to advance, and it ruined him.

Lol. I've honestly been using meditations on JoS for years on and off, and nothing like this ever happened, at least not to the extent of near full on possession. If you think I'm a jew after apologizing for me mist cake, I don't think I'll ever convince you otherwise :roll: . The enemy can distort my perception beyond my current comprehension, possessing random people for confrontations and even animals and shit for elaborate assassinations. I don't have time to prove mesNOTajew right now, or to really respond to any more comments here. I only responded to you because it was outrageous ahaha.

Ave.
 
RED DAWN said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
RED DAWN said:
Ive been influenced by the enemy for who knows how long, fuck.

Im able to remember how this was being done, despite them trying to make the situation confusing. Unfortunately I doubt I can really prevent it from happening, as in the moment I knew it was irrational but I didn't care. They spoke to my subconscious, rather than in a way I could understand as a usual interaction with an entity takes place.

I'm guessing this same entity manipulated mageson, exploiting their jealousy of HPHC and their general suspicion towards the RTRs. This entity exploited sensitive topics with me, pretend to be a God and told me I was irredeemable and would be smited if I did not submit. I told them I wouldn't because I have prior obligations I'd never betray, accepting even supposed soul death. Then they periodically took away my ability to recognize faces, trying to manipulate me into thinking they were a God teaching me a moral lesson. They tried to kill my friend that I wouldn't betray as well.

This entity didn't feel like an enemy at all, it felt like nothing. If anything it felt like me. It drained the fuck out of me after meditating for hours, when I woke up it felt like I had surgery on my solar plexus. My body also undergone some kind of chemical detox, I believe.

Anyway, I think it's best that I leave and sort this out on my own. This also reminds me of another very serious incident my group had.

Everything you have just described is actually a common problem for jews who try to use the gentile spiritual workings we have here. Because our souls are a different and opposite structure from each other, they are not compatible and instructions for the two designs are not interchangeable.

Look at One Wire Phenomenon. His story is the same as yours. He was a jew who tried to use our information to advance, and it ruined him.

Lol. I've honestly been using meditations on JoS for years on and off, and nothing like this ever happened, at least not to the extent of near full on possession. If you think I'm a jew after apologizing for me mist cake, I don't think I'll ever convince you otherwise :roll: . The enemy can distort my perception beyond my current comprehension, possessing random people for confrontations and even animals and shit for elaborate assassinations. I don't have time to prove mesNOTajew right now, or to really respond to any more comments here. I only responded to you because it was outrageous ahaha.

Ave.

I told you before, these "angels" and this hebrew enemy shit is dangerous. It must be avoided. This is not some strange belief of ours or that we "do not want you to do this", it's because it will invite events like this on Gentiles.
 
RED DAWN said:
Note by HP Cobra

Be aware: This post is for archives and all the slander and questions I had to answer because I am trying to create the largest spiritual school and community for Gentiles.

Enjoy both reasonable questions that are answered and slander in this thread.




______________________
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
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-High Priest Hooded Cobra 666

Brutha, if you need money this bad I can wire you
the 50 Dollars, shite.

What kind of bills does JoS have anyway that are significant enough to aggressively beg your audience for sheckles? Azazel doesn't help you guys out financially? Lucifuge Rofocal apparently controls all treasures of earth, why doesn't he help you out? You're apparently fighting their war, honestly I don't get it. The combined effort of the Joy of Satan Ministry can't preform financial rituals in order to cover the 50~ dollars a month it costs to keep your network running? I'm not trying to be insulting, I'm genuinely asking. You have probably 10k+ members, yet you have to constantly remind them to donate, and call those that don't "cowards and pussies". Wtf?

Times are tough, bro. Yes, maybe we muricans don't think 50 Dolla is a lot, but to some here that's their weekly wage.

When my insignificant group had contact with the Gods, they provided us all kinds of perks and benefits that were far more valuable than fucking website maintenance fees. Who negotiated your contracts? They need to be fired.

Ave brotha, maybe I'll win the lottery, indeed, so you can stop bitching.

Anyway on the post itself, you talked about important things and it's valuable. Your begging is another story, I hope the situation is more dire than Maxine not having her KFC allowance. Alright, that was mean, still I think this is partly justified.


The quality of your post is on par with the same quality of your own mediocre IQ.
 
STanBlank said:
If anyone still doesn't understand why JoS needs money, I think I can give an answer. :)
I'm a new member who has been here less than a year ,I think my words can make the other new members understand.
Cobra has set up a server in China for JoS.Each server costs a lot of money to maintain, and if the server and website are under attack, it takes even more time and money to repair.
There are almost as many posts on JoS's translation forum as you can think of as many websites and servers needing maintenance. The annual cost of these servers is far more than an average person's annual salary.

Well said, Bro. As an united Community, we all live understanding each other's needs. Helping each other. And for this to continue, money are needed.
 
VoiceofEnki said:
Apokovyski said:
Listen Man, I don't need Jos to understand how deceitful, liar and fake this world. I know it. Why do I trust someone on Internet :D ? I cannot even trust people on physical world just because Neptune positions or other kinda stuff. Why would I trust Cobra or Jos ? I haven't seen any evidence that Satan supporting Jos, in my 2 years of being with Jos. And you say "hmm, nonsense"

Also, this donation stuff makes me suspicious.
YOU KNOW, there is a lot of cheater in this world.
Maxine or Cobra could be one of them. There are not much evidence for trusting them. Also lot of people creating their own clergies for simply taking their money or deceive them.
Jos and it's priests maybe found their own way for this. I trust Satan. But not Jos. Cobra's post gave me a point.

So that is how it is.

You turned against Satan because you convinced yourself somehow that the Joy of Satan, the sole Satanic organization which actually cares about Spirituality, Satan and the Gods, as well as the future of Gentile humanity, and which has proven its legitimacy beyond any doubts whatsoever over the past decades, especially the past 4 years, must be a place of scammers and crooks trying desperately to take your 5 shekels.


You may be one of the most idiotic people calling themselves SS that I have ever seen, however you should still be able to read one would hope.

Therefore, you should read what has been said on this thread, as this nonsense you continue to bring up has already been addressed over the past few days.


Let me ask you as well, what makes you so convinced that HP HoodedCobra must be trying to scam you of your 5 shekels by making these posts here?

If you'd stop to think with even 1 of your brain cells you'd see the fallacy in this idiotic nonsense.

Explain to me why you believe HP HoodedCobra is trying to scam you, or why the JoS is untrustworthy to your little mind.


I'd like to hear you rationalize these statements and show us your great extraordinary wisdom regarding these thoughts.

Enlighten us will you?


Hail Satan!

It's not very complicated... Because I don't have enough personal evidence for trusting. There is a lot of satanic organisation in the world right now. Everybody claims something etc etc, why would jos be right just because it's logical ?

You call me stupid but I'm just told you "I don't trust Jos and priests", should I trust jos like xians trusting their faith ? Well, I think you stupid one here. I will never stop questioning until I get an enough answer.

Who says that I'm against Satan? Did I cursed centiles ? Burned temples ? Told lies to millions of people? Or I just wrote something on a forum called:"ancient forums" HMM! I'm Destroyer of worlds just because Mr. Voice of enki didn't appreciate my SS status... Hmm...

You don't know anything about me. Or how a Satanist I'm. So stop talking like you know it all.

I don't have a problem like enlightening you. Do it yourself "donator".
 
Apokovyski said:
It's not very complicated... Because I don't have enough personal evidence for trusting. There is a lot of satanic organisation in the world right now. Everybody claims something etc etc, why would jos be right just because it's logical ?

You call me stupid but I'm just told you "I don't trust Jos and priests", should I trust jos like xians trusting their faith ? Well, I think you stupid one here. I will never stop questioning until I get an enough answer.

Who says that I'm against Satan? Did I cursed centiles ? Burned temples ? Told lies to millions of people? Or I just wrote something on a forum called:"ancient forums" HMM! I'm Destroyer of worlds just because Mr. Voice of enki didn't appreciate my SS status... Hmm...

You don't know anything about me. Or how a Satanist I'm. So stop talking like you know it all.

I don't have a problem like enlightening you. Do it yourself "donator".

What part of this answers the question I asked?

You cannot even rationalize or sum up the reasons you have for not trusting.

You arbitrarily say, there's many organizations who claim this or that, JoS must be the same, therefore I cannot trust them.

Let me ask you once again, try to rationalize these things. If you stop and think for a moment, it becomes simple to see how fallacious this comparison is.

Once again, you still have not read the other replies written here by myself, by HP HoodedCobra, by the others.

Since you seem inept at listening, I shall repeat the same words, everything you just said, has already been answered multiple times.

All it takes to clear these doubts of yours is to read what has been written. These doubts have already been addressed and debunked.

You may disagree with that, however if you do, then rationalize here why that is the case.

The point you make in this reply you wrote is a non argument, since it is already explained and addressed.

See the reason now why I write to you what I wrote?


If you need me to spell something out for till you see a few things. To run the JoS in this world is very expensive. Like 6 figure expensive.

None of this comes for free. The Gods don't live here, so they cannot have us the money in this direct manner even if we beg for it. Not that we need to.

The reason the JoS continues to run and always has had the money to continue expanding, is because there are people who care about its expansion, and because the Gods teach us how to be able to care for this.

If you cannot see the benefit the JoS brings to the world, the merit it has over any other satanic nonsense groups out there, why are you even here?

How can one even compare the JoS with any random group calling themselves satanic? Do you see how ridiculous that is?


The JoS is the only legitimate SS group which fights against the jews to restore our true spiritual heritage, and who fight in order to see the Gods venerated rightfully once again, and who fight to allow gentile humanity to have the ability to aim for Godhood once more through providing the necessary spiritual knowledge.

If you think there are other groups out there who compare in actual accomplishments and proven merit to succeed in this, do tell us.

Do tell which other groups are so extraordinary as to compare with the Joy of Satan, and why the Joy of Satan should be treated as just one of the many inferior "satanic" groups out there.


The burden of proof is on you on this, since it is abundantly clear this couldn't be further from the truth.


To suggest as such, does in fact equate with turning against Satan and the Gods. However you wouldn't understand why, since you know nothing of Satan nor the Gods at all.

If you'd seek out Satan earnestly, and speak to Him about this, you'd never have had these thoughts in the first place, since He makes it abundantly clear to all his true followers that the Joy of Satan is His only verified Temple on the Earth.

What have you been doing the past 2 years as an SS? Did you even dedicate at all?

Hail Satan!
 
VoiceofEnki said:
Apokovyski said:
It's not very complicated... Because I don't have enough personal evidence for trusting. There is a lot of satanic organisation in the world right now. Everybody claims something etc etc, why would jos be right just because it's logical ?

You call me stupid but I'm just told you "I don't trust Jos and priests", should I trust jos like xians trusting their faith ? Well, I think you stupid one here. I will never stop questioning until I get an enough answer.

Who says that I'm against Satan? Did I cursed centiles ? Burned temples ? Told lies to millions of people? Or I just wrote something on a forum called:"ancient forums" HMM! I'm Destroyer of worlds just because Mr. Voice of enki didn't appreciate my SS status... Hmm...

You don't know anything about me. Or how a Satanist I'm. So stop talking like you know it all.

I don't have a problem like enlightening you. Do it yourself "donator".

What part of this answers the question I asked?

You cannot even rationalize or sum up the reasons you have for not trusting.

You arbitrarily say, there's many organizations who claim this or that, JoS must be the same, therefore I cannot trust them.

Let me ask you once again, try to rationalize these things. If you stop and think for a moment, it becomes simple to see how fallacious this comparison is.

Once again, you still have not read the other replies written here by myself, by HP HoodedCobra, by the others.

Since you seem inept at listening, I shall repeat the same words, everything you just said, has already been answered multiple times.

All it takes to clear these doubts of yours is to read what has been written. These doubts have already been addressed and debunked.

You may disagree with that, however if you do, then rationalize here why that is the case.

The point you make in this reply you wrote is a non argument, since it is already explained and addressed.

See the reason now why I write to you what I wrote?


If you need me to spell something out for till you see a few things. To run the JoS in this world is very expensive. Like 6 figure expensive.

None of this comes for free. The Gods don't live here, so they cannot have us the money in this direct manner even if we beg for it. Not that we need to.

The reason the JoS continues to run and always has had the money to continue expanding, is because there are people who care about its expansion, and because the Gods teach us how to be able to care for this.

If you cannot see the benefit the JoS brings to the world, the merit it has over any other satanic nonsense groups out there, why are you even here?

How can one even compare the JoS with any random group calling themselves satanic? Do you see how ridiculous that is?


The JoS is the only legitimate SS group which fights against the jews to restore our true spiritual heritage, and who fight in order to see the Gods venerated rightfully once again, and who fight to allow gentile humanity to have the ability to aim for Godhood once more through providing the necessary spiritual knowledge.

If you think there are other groups out there who compare in actual accomplishments and proven merit to succeed in this, do tell us.

Do tell which other groups are so extraordinary as to compare with the Joy of Satan, and why the Joy of Satan should be treated as just one of the many inferior "satanic" groups out there.


The burden of proof is on you on this, since it is abundantly clear this couldn't be further from the truth.


To suggest as such, does in fact equate with turning against Satan and the Gods. However you wouldn't understand why, since you know nothing of Satan nor the Gods at all.

If you'd seek out Satan earnestly, and speak to Him about this, you'd never have had these thoughts in the first place, since He makes it abundantly clear to all his true followers that the Joy of Satan is His only verified Temple on the Earth.

What have you been doing the past 2 years as an SS? Did you even dedicate at all?

Hail Satan!

This is the classic effortless stance people have in general on the planet. It is here yet without depth, here without actual interests in study, in deprogramming.

Even as so, fine, everything at the right time, one would desire their best interest yet waste their own time, delay themselves. All of this is on them undoing themselves.

The only problem on the above, is just the audacity to have a stubborn and ignorant opinion, while pridefully acknowledging it.

This is an individual who doesn't want to discover, to know. Only an effortless reaction, given without value as they truly don't understand value.

Therefore we don't have to entertain this "no value".

They have the study material, they have the tools of meditation, they have the free will enough for it to be discriminant in their analysis. They have the HP directly and with elegance answering the real "concerns", yet what they project is of no substance but their own lack of fulfilment in this.

The above is to be seen and understood. As beginners might lose their time in this manner, by not taking serious or at least with respect or curiosity this path. This path is the most serious, yet they lack even the seriousness they posses when walking in a store for example.
 
NakedPluto said:
This is the classic effortless stance people have in general on the planet. It is here yet without depth, here without actual interests in study, in deprogramming.

Even as so, fine, everything at the right time, one would desire their best interest yet waste their own time, delay themselves. All of this is on them undoing themselves.

The only problem on the above, is just the audacity to have a stubborn and ignorant opinion, while pridefully acknowledging it.

This is an individual who doesn't want to discover, to know. Only an effortless reaction, given without value as they truly don't understand value.

Therefore we don't have to entertain this "no value".

They have the study material, they have the tools of meditation, they have the free will enough for it to be discriminant in their analysis. They have the HP directly and with elegance answering the real "concerns", yet what they project is of no substance but their own lack of fulfilment in this.

The above is to be seen and understood. As beginners might lose their time in this manner, by not taking serious or at least with respect or curiosity this path. This path is the most serious, yet they lack even the seriousness they posses when walking in a store for example.

You are right, thank you also for this well written response.

Hail Satan!
 
RED DAWN said:
Ive been influenced by the enemy for who knows how long, fuck.

Im able to remember how this was being done, despite them trying to make the situation confusing. Unfortunately I doubt I can really prevent it from happening, as in the moment I knew it was irrational but I didn't care. They spoke to my subconscious, rather than in a way I could understand as a usual interaction with an entity takes place.

I'm guessing this same entity manipulated mageson, exploiting their jealousy of HPHC and their general suspicion towards the RTRs. This entity exploited sensitive topics with me, pretend to be a God and told me I was irredeemable and would be smited if I did not submit. I told them I wouldn't because I have prior obligations I'd never betray, accepting even supposed soul death. Then they periodically took away my ability to recognize faces, trying to manipulate me into thinking they were a God teaching me a moral lesson. They tried to kill my friend that I wouldn't betray as well.

This entity didn't feel like an enemy at all, it felt like nothing. If anything it felt like me. It drained the fuck out of me after meditating for hours, when I woke up it felt like I had surgery on my solar plexus. My body also undergone some kind of chemical detox, I believe.

Anyway, I think it's best that I leave and sort this out on my own. This also reminds me of another very serious incident my group had.

If this is the case, then you are more in need of doing both RTR's (and subsequent cleaning) and invoking Satanic energy to resolve this connection to your soul and remove any Hebrew curses or energy, than what I assumed beforehand.
 
VoiceofEnki said:
Apokovyski said:
It's not very complicated... Because I don't have enough personal evidence for trusting. There is a lot of satanic organisation in the world right now. Everybody claims something etc etc, why would jos be right just because it's logical ?

You call me stupid but I'm just told you "I don't trust Jos and priests", should I trust jos like xians trusting their faith ? Well, I think you stupid one here. I will never stop questioning until I get an enough answer.

Who says that I'm against Satan? Did I cursed centiles ? Burned temples ? Told lies to millions of people? Or I just wrote something on a forum called:"ancient forums" HMM! I'm Destroyer of worlds just because Mr. Voice of enki didn't appreciate my SS status... Hmm...

You don't know anything about me. Or how a Satanist I'm. So stop talking like you know it all.

I don't have a problem like enlightening you. Do it yourself "donator".

What part of this answers the question I asked?

You cannot even rationalize or sum up the reasons you have for not trusting.

You arbitrarily say, there's many organizations who claim this or that, JoS must be the same, therefore I cannot trust them.

Let me ask you once again, try to rationalize these things. If you stop and think for a moment, it becomes simple to see how fallacious this comparison is.

Once again, you still have not read the other replies written here by myself, by HP HoodedCobra, by the others.

Since you seem inept at listening, I shall repeat the same words, everything you just said, has already been answered multiple times.

All it takes to clear these doubts of yours is to read what has been written. These doubts have already been addressed and debunked.

You may disagree with that, however if you do, then rationalize here why that is the case.

The point you make in this reply you wrote is a non argument, since it is already explained and addressed.

See the reason now why I write to you what I wrote?


If you need me to spell something out for till you see a few things. To run the JoS in this world is very expensive. Like 6 figure expensive.

None of this comes for free. The Gods don't live here, so they cannot have us the money in this direct manner even if we beg for it. Not that we need to.

The reason the JoS continues to run and always has had the money to continue expanding, is because there are people who care about its expansion, and because the Gods teach us how to be able to care for this.

If you cannot see the benefit the JoS brings to the world, the merit it has over any other satanic nonsense groups out there, why are you even here?

How can one even compare the JoS with any random group calling themselves satanic? Do you see how ridiculous that is?


The JoS is the only legitimate SS group which fights against the jews to restore our true spiritual heritage, and who fight in order to see the Gods venerated rightfully once again, and who fight to allow gentile humanity to have the ability to aim for Godhood once more through providing the necessary spiritual knowledge.

If you think there are other groups out there who compare in actual accomplishments and proven merit to succeed in this, do tell us.

Do tell which other groups are so extraordinary as to compare with the Joy of Satan, and why the Joy of Satan should be treated as just one of the many inferior "satanic" groups out there.


The burden of proof is on you on this, since it is abundantly clear this couldn't be further from the truth.


To suggest as such, does in fact equate with turning against Satan and the Gods. However you wouldn't understand why, since you know nothing of Satan nor the Gods at all.

If you'd seek out Satan earnestly, and speak to Him about this, you'd never have had these thoughts in the first place, since He makes it abundantly clear to all his true followers that the Joy of Satan is His only verified Temple on the Earth.

What have you been doing the past 2 years as an SS? Did you even dedicate at all?

Hail Satan!

I don't know man... Time passed so fast. Yes, I dedicated. Both with ritual and doing RTRs, Meditations etc.
But yet I feel like confused about myself.
Maybe it's because I have low psychic sensitivity. Because on my natal chart I'm earth element dominant or I don't know why.
And in last times I have serious problems with Neptune, because it's aspecting my natal planets or I don't know. I am ignorant as don't knowing simplest things. I don't know, idk idk

Hail Satan
 
NakedPluto said:
VoiceofEnki said:
Apokovyski said:
It's not very complicated... Because I don't have enough personal evidence for trusting. There is a lot of satanic organisation in the world right now. Everybody claims something etc etc, why would jos be right just because it's logical ?

You call me stupid but I'm just told you "I don't trust Jos and priests", should I trust jos like xians trusting their faith ? Well, I think you stupid one here. I will never stop questioning until I get an enough answer.

Who says that I'm against Satan? Did I cursed centiles ? Burned temples ? Told lies to millions of people? Or I just wrote something on a forum called:"ancient forums" HMM! I'm Destroyer of worlds just because Mr. Voice of enki didn't appreciate my SS status... Hmm...

You don't know anything about me. Or how a Satanist I'm. So stop talking like you know it all.

I don't have a problem like enlightening you. Do it yourself "donator".

What part of this answers the question I asked?

You cannot even rationalize or sum up the reasons you have for not trusting.

You arbitrarily say, there's many organizations who claim this or that, JoS must be the same, therefore I cannot trust them.

Let me ask you once again, try to rationalize these things. If you stop and think for a moment, it becomes simple to see how fallacious this comparison is.

Once again, you still have not read the other replies written here by myself, by HP HoodedCobra, by the others.

Since you seem inept at listening, I shall repeat the same words, everything you just said, has already been answered multiple times.

All it takes to clear these doubts of yours is to read what has been written. These doubts have already been addressed and debunked.

You may disagree with that, however if you do, then rationalize here why that is the case.

The point you make in this reply you wrote is a non argument, since it is already explained and addressed.

See the reason now why I write to you what I wrote?


If you need me to spell something out for till you see a few things. To run the JoS in this world is very expensive. Like 6 figure expensive.

None of this comes for free. The Gods don't live here, so they cannot have us the money in this direct manner even if we beg for it. Not that we need to.

The reason the JoS continues to run and always has had the money to continue expanding, is because there are people who care about its expansion, and because the Gods teach us how to be able to care for this.

If you cannot see the benefit the JoS brings to the world, the merit it has over any other satanic nonsense groups out there, why are you even here?

How can one even compare the JoS with any random group calling themselves satanic? Do you see how ridiculous that is?


The JoS is the only legitimate SS group which fights against the jews to restore our true spiritual heritage, and who fight in order to see the Gods venerated rightfully once again, and who fight to allow gentile humanity to have the ability to aim for Godhood once more through providing the necessary spiritual knowledge.

If you think there are other groups out there who compare in actual accomplishments and proven merit to succeed in this, do tell us.

Do tell which other groups are so extraordinary as to compare with the Joy of Satan, and why the Joy of Satan should be treated as just one of the many inferior "satanic" groups out there.


The burden of proof is on you on this, since it is abundantly clear this couldn't be further from the truth.


To suggest as such, does in fact equate with turning against Satan and the Gods. However you wouldn't understand why, since you know nothing of Satan nor the Gods at all.

If you'd seek out Satan earnestly, and speak to Him about this, you'd never have had these thoughts in the first place, since He makes it abundantly clear to all his true followers that the Joy of Satan is His only verified Temple on the Earth.

What have you been doing the past 2 years as an SS? Did you even dedicate at all?

Hail Satan!

This is the classic effortless stance people have in general on the planet. It is here yet without depth, here without actual interests in study, in deprogramming.

Even as so, fine, everything at the right time, one would desire their best interest yet waste their own time, delay themselves. All of this is on them undoing themselves.

The only problem on the above, is just the audacity to have a stubborn and ignorant opinion, while pridefully acknowledging it.

This is an individual who doesn't want to discover, to know. Only an effortless reaction, given without value as they truly don't understand value.

Therefore we don't have to entertain this "no value".

They have the study material, they have the tools of meditation, they have the free will enough for it to be discriminant in their analysis. They have the HP directly and with elegance answering the real "concerns", yet what they project is of no substance but their own lack of fulfilment in this.

The above is to be seen and understood. As beginners might lose their time in this manner, by not taking serious or at least with respect or curiosity this path. This path is the most serious, yet they lack even the seriousness they posses when walking in a store for example.
True
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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