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Elections NL mar 14-17

Lunar Dance 666

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The Netherlands will have elections for a new parliament from the 14th to the 17th where the people can vote who will be next in charge.

Also (((Rutte))) gave himself up to be elected again as president. So that we can have a cabinet Rutte IV ...

Despite him quitting and the cabinet falling. ... He's been speaking and acting to the public as if he is still in charge.
 
There is libtard Mark Rutte and anti-islamic jew Geert Wilders, so nothing good do not happen.
 
Meteor said:
I don't know too much about politics, but I used to really like Rutte because he always seemed so down-to-earth and serious, unlike most politicians. I even named my succulent plant after him.
But with the recent events, I've become increasingly disappointed in him. I understand not wanting to be associated with the horrible mess that is the lockdown, but quitting just makes him look very irresponsible.
I have no idea what to vote this time.

How can you adore that filth?! seriously!

Within the first year that he was elected people startted regretting their decision.

Also we have a lot of new party's so. Ive been looking through a few. It is hard to choose this year but it might be better to not vote for any big party.
 
Kurat said:
There is libtard Mark Rutte and anti-islamic jew Geert Wilders, so nothing good do not happen.

Shortsighted?
These elections are FAR different from those in the other years.
Votes might be more splintered. We shall see. The results will be interesting, to say the least.
 
Meteor said:
I used to not look into politics much and initially only kinda liked Geert Wilders a decade ago because he spoke out against immigrants, but then I saw an English article saying "the Dutch prime minister commutes to work on a bike", and I thought that was just awesome. I also heard that he lives with his sister, and although the person telling me thought it was weird, I thought such a good bond between siblings that they still live together at that age is heartwarming (although now I can't find any information about that so I wonder if that was just a rumour?).
So I looked into his party's intentions at the time and it looked fine to me. And his party has been the biggest one for a long time, so I figured that many other people approve of him as well. From then on I had a good impression of Rutte.

Was he actually filth from the start and did I just not notice because I only looked on such a shallow level?

Also we have a lot of new party's so. Ive been looking through a few. It is hard to choose this year but it might be better to not vote for any big party.
I asked my brother what he thinks and he also recommended voting a smaller party, although it's not a new one.
I used to think there was no point in it since it would only fracture the government and make it hard for them to get anything done. But if they're just going to run the country down the drain anyway, then maybe it's for the best if they don't get shit done.

You cant blame young people for not knowing politics and not voting. There was nothing presented that did benefit our interest. Then they decided that 'loaning' studies would be a good thing.
It was state funded before.
Even though people that left VMBO to MBO couldnt get any compensation for travelcosts since they were not 17 or 18 yet.

Which in my class was just a discussion topic we needed to have a discussion about in a group, and figure out a way to a solution together.
In the end it was like 4 to 1 in my group. We got roles to be pro or con and to find a compromis. My partner on the con role just instantly agreed to their plan, and I was forced to agree, even though I did not want to.
In this case the compromis was just whatever the other side wanted.

There are so many ways and solutions to a problem, but some arent even taken, despite being the best, for the folk.

Wilders gets votes because he seems to care about the folk and the public. Which is more than that can be said about the other party's with 'open borders' and 'raising taxes'.
Under the reign of Rutte we've got a lot of increase in taxes, at first because the economy was down and it needed to happen, and then the BTW raise to 'refill the state balance and to build a buffer for crisis'. Well we all know what happened to that one.

Oh and the "Agreement" that was forced through our throat for joining the EU and the euro which was voted down before, was simply just renamed, represented via another route behind the backs of the public and then voted in or applied. This was back in the 2000s.

Look, you need to make decisions for yourself, and constantly conform to "what others think". Because someone is generally "approved" does not make someone right.

We need to keep in mind what would be the best for our country, not just for ourselves.
Rutte may look dutch, but he's a kike.

Also generally, the past decades, these long standing parties have not really done what they promised, or it was so little that it did not matter anyway.

Also no one wants to cooperate with the PVV in the parliament, despite it having (or have had with the last election) the most amount of votes.

Meteor.. for how long have you been here?
 
Meteor said:

Perhaps its just me but ever since I was little I felt like things had to change. That a lot of errors were made.
And a lot of things were just wrong.

All I can say to you right now, is study, read and gain knowledge. You might still mess up because some knowledge is faulty. And I am not faultless either.

If it might help I could try to post a short overview of the new parties?
 
Meteor said:
I heard that apparently the FVD has had a lot of management issues lately, so I talked about it with my mom and she said she voted for the PVV instead. I'm considering doing the same and apparently my brother is reconsidering as well for that reason. The campaign points are fairly similar anyway.

Do you think I should rename my succulent plant after Geert Wilders? I think Wilders is probably a better name for a plant than Mark Rutte ever was anyway. Yeah, I think I'll do that. I like my plant a lot so I feel like he really deserves a better name, not one that has been tainted by such a disappointing prime minister. Hopefully Wilders (the politician) turns out to be better.

Ehh a plant as a pet.. why are you naming them after politicians in the first place?
 
I've been kind of busy, so here is a late reply:

I've kept all the points very limited and short. If you want to read what they're truly about, visit their website.
Also, I am not discussing or adding any of the old parties, except for the PVV. Also I won't write on PvdD (Partij van de Dieren) because they're radical veganists, and their main points are about animals only.

There is a lot to read. I didn't post everything. But at some point I got side-tracked and it got very lenghty.
I left anything on healthcare out of it mostly.
Note: A few parties use the word 'Judeo-christian values' in their lists. Or something similar.

Also this is only part one. I figured I should post this now, rather than later. I am unsure if I will be able to finish looking everything up, but Ill try.

Definitely not to vote:

Denk:
- Known to be backed / is pro islam. Wants to end hate on muslims.
- Thinks that NL has to take more responsibility to give refugees a safe haven. However this has to be regulated.
This is to do by tackling the problem, and spreading the refugees in a more stable percentage over all the countries.
- Does not want to enforce vaccination, not even indirect.

Bij1:
- 'vote for radical equalness'
- 'Antiracist' & 'exuses + rechtsherstel (=state restoration) for slave history and colonial posessions'.
- 'A civilisation on base of equality, justice and solidarity.'
- Is lead by a 'black woman' (didnt check for kikeness).
- 0 points on what to do with immigrants or vaccinations.


Others:
Code Oranje:
- Give Civilians the right to have their say. In this, civilians and their well-being are always leading (as to not keep the political or economical system standing)
* This has serious consequences, as we are not talking about a sane white population, but a 'diverse' mix of people, deluded and degenerate, most whom would just sip on the care given to them, which is stolen out of other people's wallets.
- Code Oranje means: Co-Democracy
- It is more a wave or a movement, of civilians that do not wave, but that start a civilian initiative together.
* Personally I would NOT vote for this.

JA21:
-Nearly stop immigration / change the way asylum seekers are dealt with upon arrival.
- Disconnect climate and energy policies, to make a better solution that spares the landscape.
Invest in nuclear energy, to stop polluting the landscape with windturbines, solar meadows (meadows full of solar panels) and biomassa (burning of biofuels to generate electricity, such as compost).
-Not a Nexit, but abolishing of contracts, to bring back the power to the respective lidstaten, instead of being dictated by Brussel, and a more flexible cooperation between said states with a focus on the economy.
-Protecting dutch history and culture.
-Invest in police and safety, increasing the penalty for crimes (higher sentences).
-Get rid of the climate accord and the climate law & to stop drilling for gas in Groningen.
-Reinstate the state funding for jobeducation (this would be university and college).
-Building affordable living space and stimulating the purchase of ones own house.
-Civilians are able to choose their own Major (also a point on the FvD list).
-Investing in Defensie. No EU army.
(On the bottom of the page it says: 'JA21 is the right answer for seeking conservatives and liberals. Welcome home!').


What would be better to vote for:

Fvd (Form for Democracy/Forum voor democratie):
- Leaving the EU: Nexit after a binding referendum. The NL is a land formed by trade.
The FvD states, that the EU policy is not one of trade, but more of a douane-unie (border control-union), which means that EU is allowed to meddle with all the products that are stated on dutch soil. It says a lot more. Here's the page, you'll have to translate it if you're not dutch: https://www.fvd.nl/uit-de-eu
*NL has been a land formed by trade since the time of VOC or even before, also, it is visible in the school curriculum, where it is compulsory to learn multiple languages, unlike in Germany or France.
- Getting rid of the 'climate control agreement' and its consequences, including getting of the gas connection (for cooking and heating water).
*Our electricity cables run underground, but due to the nature of the soil in certain places, electricity black-outs do happen frequently. Not every place is suffering from it at the same time, usually there is just a small area. But you're expected for that to happen at least once every 2 years. If you still have gas, you can cook your food and have warm water. Its also cheaper than electricity.
- Control the borders / Improve remigration / immigration after Australian model
*Includes: asking for asylum does not automaticly give a (semi-)permanent dutch residence permit, which also doesnt (semi-)automaticly lead to a dutch passport. Also stopping free juridical help on chanceless asylum procedures and forced sums of money. Illegality will be punishable by law.
- Law protecting dutch values - which have been compromised by increasing immigration and added pressure onto the civilisation.
-No 'Green deal' /No corona funds / no federal union / no European army
(The 'Herselfunds' -Restoration Funding- would redistribute 750 miljard euro, with communial debt, new european taxes and others, which would make the NL to an ATM Machine).
*There is way more Drama about the EU. Read on their website.
- As for retirement: Lowering the age limit back to 65 / Raising the AOW / if you've done heavy physical labor for 40 years you're allowed to receive AOW.
- Increasing the budget for Defensie (this is the army - funds have been dwindling for years). As well as never allowing the EU to choose where to deploy them.
-Increased building of houses (we have a shortage of 331.000+), but also stopping to give asylum seekers an urgentie which leads to them getting a house before any of the native born and raised civilians.
* NL has been seeing a shortage of housing since after WWII. From what I know, over 30 years ago, if you were 28 years old you would be able to receive a house much faster, than if you were of a younger age, as your age determined your placing on the list. Now the waiting list is very long, and does not seem to work like this anymore.

PVV:
https://www.pvv.nl/images/09012020/verkiezingen2020/0acxyuew34z/VerkiezingsProgramma2021-Final.pdf
*The text is well worded. It is something that I do recommend reading for yourself. The pdf is 52 pages though.
-Anti Islam. NL is not islam.
-Self governing country, that economicly cooperates with other countries but says goodbye to a corrupt EU, so we can control our own money.
-Reinstating the border control, restriction immigration policies, to combat overpopulation.
-By constitution we record: Our Jewish-christian and humanistic roots are forming the dominant and leading culture in the NL.
As well as promoting dutch products, and no change of streetnames that are named after our sea heroes.
-Increasing wages for health personnel, as well as building at least 10.000 elderly homes.
*A lot of elderly homes have been abolished or disbanded, under a state policy of keeping elderly people in their own houses for as long as possible. Which means that people that can't walk properly and need more or better care are still living in family houses, all by themselves. Houses that can't be freed up for people that want to start a family.
-No vaccination requirements. No force, no craving.
-Reducing taxes on food and energy bills. Reducing rent (houses).
-Retirement back to 65 or after 40 years of hard physical labor.
-No houses for statusholders. Our houses for our people. Allowing permanent living in holiday homes.
-Restoration of the rechtsstaat: no unfairness and no corruption.
-Choose your major.
-No 'Eerste Kamer'
*(the parliament is split up in two. Im not even sure what the first one does.)
-Biggest 3 parties after elections are required to make a deal about what can be done
-Getting rid of the climate law; No co2-reduction policies, no destruction of the landscape.
-No climate or sustainability subsidies. No drilling for gas in Groningen, however we don't get rid of gas altogether.
- Animal rights in the constitution. Ban on ritual slaughter of animals.
*On initiative of the PVV they instated the animal police, against animal cruelty.
-In education, it has to become smaller, no funding for islamitic education, every student has to get a fitting spot in the education. State funding for students (college and university) is also supported.
*There are other parties that speak about education. But I left it out of most of their descriptions.
-No EU army. No foreign missions, but to keep the army to win back our own streets. No useless investments of Defensie.
Turkey has to leave the NAVO.
Punishment for those responsible for MH17, inclusive sanctions.
-NEXIT.
*Page 51:
Mark Rutte heeft vorig jaar zijn handtekening gezet onder een megalomane EU-begroting met een herstelfonds van 1.850 miljard. Daar mag de Nederlandse belastingbetaler voor 100 miljard aan meebetalen.
...
Ook de miljarden die elk jaar worden verkwanseld aan ontwikkelingshulp, aan immigratie en asielzoekers, aan windturbines, klimaatbeleid en aan subsidies gaan we anders besteden. De PVV stopt de verspilling van al dat belastinggeld. Het is tenslotte uw geld.
Translation: Last year Mark Rutte wrote down his signature on a megalomaniac EU-estimate with a restorationfund of 1850 miljard (In numbers: 1.850.000.000.000). Of which the dutch taxpayer has to pay 100 miljard (100.000.000.000).
...
Also the milliards that are wasted on development aid, on immigration and asylum seekers, on windturbines, climate management and subsidies will be spend differently. The PVV stops the wasting of all this taxmoney. It is your money after all.
 
Ive decided to vote for either of those. People just votw what they usually vote because looking into it is too extensive, theres too little time and its all spread out rather than there being one list one could look through.

This is where the vote quizzes come into play but they dont test for everything nor is the result something that fits well.
At least, it never did for me.
But this is because the parties also have and take over idealistic standpoints and views as opposed to realistic approaches to matters.
Around the elections they campaign and say whatever they think would get them the most votes. They dont even support what they say most of the time.

I was once an idealist too, but I've changed since.

Heh okay. About the plant. Still going strong :)
 
Henu the Great said:
Lunar Dance 666 said:
I was once an idealist too, but I've changed since.
Same here, but it changed back to it somewhat as I've power meditated.

Now, think about how we shape the world and maybe you might become a little idealistic again. ;)

Generally, increase in vril, provides you happiness and a positive view on things.
Good job Henu! ;D
 
If they didn't have ridiculous climate-endangering plans, they'd be more than decent.

CO2 reduction policies are necessary. Also nuclear (based on fusion, rather than fission) is better than most conventional power sources and even than some "green" power sources.

Climate laws need to be amended, not removed. Air pollution is a real and one of the main reasons for illnesses and genetic mutations, together with food. Air pollution is not just chemtrails but also excessive CO2 emissions.

It's not about what's cheaper but what can heal the environment and restore people's health, not damage them.
 
Henu the Great said:
Lunar Dance 666 said:
I was once an idealist too, but I've changed since.
Same here, but it changed back to it somewhat as I've power meditated.

Now, think about how we shape the world and maybe you might become a little idealistic again. ;)
When I was speaking about 'the idealist' I meant things that sound great but would be too far from realistic or accomplishable.
Things that would be too much of a dream without backing.
Dreams are nice but they mustn't be fantasy in such a thing.

I know we are to change the world. Be the guiding light. Such a world cannot be build on dreams or fantasy alone, or ideals.
We also must not lose ourselves on the way. We are still part of nature and as such we must evolve.
Not be the idealist that wants to help every poor beggar on the street. Or the people that should spend time in prison.

Because those are the people that I call idealists. Those that act and think accordingly to the bible. The ones that want but also those that support open borders.

The normal civilian wants to have a say in governing matters, because they are not protected. They're naive.
You need to know everything, have considered everything, and then make a decision. It is not just your life that is going to be affected by what is decided. It is everyones lives.
The ones currently reigning may come across as incompetent nitwits, but like said, theyre also doing (((their))) bidding.

..
I was also naive, wanting things to be better, but soon realized that what I wanted was not the best for everyone. Its a real pain in the head ya know.
 
Stormblood said:
If they didn't have ridiculous climate-endangering plans, they'd be more than decent.

CO2 reduction policies are necessary. Also nuclear (based on fusion, rather than fission) is better than most conventional power sources and even than some "green" power sources.

Climate laws need to be amended, not removed. Air pollution is a real and one of the main reasons for illnesses and genetic mutations, together with food. Air pollution is not just chemtrails but also excessive CO2 emissions.

It's not about what's cheaper but what can heal the environment and restore people's health, not damage them.

Once it goes a bit better again economicly these changes can already be made, or you let them grow along with a better economy.
People dont have such money themselves and as such a big change it should mostly be state funded. A few little things is what the civilians themselves can do but the bigger things like installing solar panels on rooftops should be state funded. Especially if youre going to make them mandatory.
Solar panels are not suited for the winter time though. You need way too much and youd also use more in winter time if everything was electric.

Restoring health goes hand in hand with a better environment. However, that is not the CO2 issue. But has to do with other chemical compounds.
Promoting of planting more trees and greenery in the garden is already a topic here and steps are already being taken to have more plants growing.
This would tackle the CO2 issue and has nothing to do with limiting the excrement of CO2 out of cow dung or farts in example.

Also its been said that the production of electricity is more wasteful than burning gas..
There are lists on about how much the percentage of CO2 is dumped into the environment by various sectors.
Theyve been trying to cut and reduce expelling said waste in the farmers sector as well as for driving a car with x fuel or that is x years old.
Which is plain madness.

To reduce CO2 waste for a growing country is also madness..
Anyway. Enough on this.
 
Lunar Dance 666 said:
When I was speaking about 'the idealist' I meant things that sound great but would be too far from realistic or accomplishable.
Things that would be too much of a dream without backing.
Dreams are nice but they mustn't be fantasy in such a thing.

I know we are to change the world. Be the guiding light. Such a world cannot be build on dreams or fantasy alone, or ideals.
We also must not lose ourselves on the way. We are still part of nature and as such we must evolve.
Not be the idealist that wants to help every poor beggar on the street. Or the people that should spend time in prison.

Because those are the people that I call idealists. Those that act and think accordingly to the bible. The ones that want but also those that support open borders.

The normal civilian wants to have a say in governing matters, because they are not protected. They're naive.
You need to know everything, have considered everything, and then make a decision. It is not just your life that is going to be affected by what is decided. It is everyones lives.
The ones currently reigning may come across as incompetent nitwits, but like said, theyre also doing (((their))) bidding.

..
I was also naive, wanting things to be better, but soon realized that what I wanted was not the best for everyone. Its a real pain in the head ya know.
When I talk about being an idealist I don't talk about giving a penny to a beggar and look as the beggar goes to buy smokes to pollute itself.

When I talk about idealism, I talk about raising the serpent.
About when a person dictates the political life by their 3rd eye wheter it's on the stage, or behind the stage.
About when political enemies will be incinerated by the powers of the mind. Yes, burned alive.
About when there will be no poverty, no disease, only peace between brothers and sisters. Unity among Nations.
About when Gentiles reign supreme and our Gods plan will be fullfilled, and we are a star faring peoples.

That's the idealism I'm having.
 
NinRick said:
Generally, increase in vril, provides you happiness and a positive view on things.
Good job Henu! ;D
I just finished doing KY 'BSES' aka Basic Spinal Energy Series. Soon I have done KY every day for 40 days. First circuit is almost complete, and it feels good. Addicted to big vril power. :D

Last year was like kindergarten, and by the looks of it this year is going to be grade school from beginning to end. Next year, high school? I sure hope so!
 
VVD with Rutte is biggest again.
After is D66
PVV third, lost 3 seats.
CDA/SP/PVDA/GROENLINKS
FvD got 8 seats. A rise of 6 compared to last election?
DENK got 3 seats.
JA21 got 3 (new party)
BIJ1 managed to get one seat
BBB got 1 seat.
A lot of new parties didnt get anything.

Also a few places (comunicipalities - prob the wrong word or misspelled) got unadressed letters. They said theyd open them and ssee if they were votes, then count them too.
Also they said 0,2% were illegitemite votes.
About 80% went and voted.
 
Meteor said:
I'm shocked to see people are still voting for Rutte after such a disappointing performance this year. I guess a lot of people don't really put much thought into what they vote. Not like I'm one to talk, but at least I put more thought into it this time.

PVV -3 and FvD +6 is still a rise of 3 seats if you count them together. They're similar enough that some people might have crossed over to FvD, I think.

Mhm.
Yes also Ja21 has similar ideas. it has risen a little but so have other corrosive elements.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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