I would like to know whether (as some forums such as 'rebbot' and website such as yourbrainon porn.com) it is healthy to conserve the sexual fluid as people such as samael aun weor(a jew) claims or whether it is best to ejaculate for the purpose of building occult power and overall health. Should one practice karezza(withholding or refraining from ejaculation) or simply ejaculate ad libitum?
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Egon
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There is no right schedule for when you have to ejaculate or not, all you must consider is programming the energy of the orgasm with affirmation and visualization for personal advancement.
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Honestly, even as the 'young man' that I am. I don't quite have the sex drive of my peers, but when I do it's self regulating (as the 'cool down' after sex keeps me from going at it again for at least a little bit). As well, I've found it's beneficial to be sexually active at least once a day. But of course there are some days where I go without time or even desire for sex, and others where it's the opposite.
It's purely up to the individual, though I can not stress how much porn is BAD for your mental health and sexual life / desires. In short, porn pushes one to quickly rub one out, with little to no effort. Sometimes you even get less of a pleasure chemical rush from porn than you would from regular sex. This makes you go find more 'fringe' porn categories to get that same rush. And in time, if one is not careful you will find yourself in a dark place, such as sites like [DATA EXPUNGED]. Where grown men get off on the idea of being deprived of sex, or being cucked.
A great alternative to porn however is visualization. Especially if you have a demon lover, or someone you've had sex with. As well, it trains one to visualize naturally. Above all else though, a loving partner with a sex drive to match yours cannot be matched or replaced with porn. This could be a human lover, or a demon lover (Succubus, Incubus, or in my case a thoughtform lover from 2 life times ago)
What really matters though is programming the energy. I myself have been working hard on my 6th chakra and Third eye, so 2/3rds of that energy goes towards opening them up
The rest is 'lost' as it goes to my lover, Lilly. Or it dissipates if one is not focused, it's quite a lot of energy, and it is released very quickly :/
I hope you found this helpful, ask any questions if you have them
It's purely up to the individual, though I can not stress how much porn is BAD for your mental health and sexual life / desires. In short, porn pushes one to quickly rub one out, with little to no effort. Sometimes you even get less of a pleasure chemical rush from porn than you would from regular sex. This makes you go find more 'fringe' porn categories to get that same rush. And in time, if one is not careful you will find yourself in a dark place, such as sites like [DATA EXPUNGED]. Where grown men get off on the idea of being deprived of sex, or being cucked.
A great alternative to porn however is visualization. Especially if you have a demon lover, or someone you've had sex with. As well, it trains one to visualize naturally. Above all else though, a loving partner with a sex drive to match yours cannot be matched or replaced with porn. This could be a human lover, or a demon lover (Succubus, Incubus, or in my case a thoughtform lover from 2 life times ago)
What really matters though is programming the energy. I myself have been working hard on my 6th chakra and Third eye, so 2/3rds of that energy goes towards opening them up
The rest is 'lost' as it goes to my lover, Lilly. Or it dissipates if one is not focused, it's quite a lot of energy, and it is released very quickly :/I hope you found this helpful, ask any questions if you have them
Thanks for your feedback. Most of the eastern oriental gurus claim that semen retention is a way of conserving life force but my experience is that it simply causes physical problems and possible/probably chakra blockages and prostate cancer. However perhaps ejaculation daily or more frequently than a couple of times per week drains vital energy and nutrients which could be unhealthy and cause burnout? I agree with the porn thing though as it is a gateway to degeneration not generation.
loki88 said:
Not masturbating at all is worst than too much masturbation. Masturbating a lot only has a downside if one is trying to conceive (lower sperm count and not enough time for repletion) and your diet is bad i.e. not enough nutrition for cell regeneration and to fuel the hormones and the vital components that are the sexual fluids, etc.
loki88 said:
Honestly, I just cannot trust anything a Jew says. I just cant. And if they do speak the truth, its only in their favor or for some agenda. The only thing I would trust about a Jews is when they tell information that brags or gives their agenda away. Like many Jews speaking about their Jewish DNA and how they are a race. In which case, I use that against them when it comes to waking up the public about that.
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There is literally no reason to not ejaculate, not spiritually speaking or even hygienic or for contraception, as both pre and post-ejaculation occur anyway, this can't be stopped. In my own personal experience, it doesn't constitute a full orgasm, it's just not the same. If you have higher energy levels and you do this for a while without having a full orgasm with full ejaculation, you will have problems. This period can vary anywhere from a few hours to probably days or weeks, depending on the person.
Some and self-appointed 'tantra' experts claim that when semen is retained, it provides the brain and central nervous system with calcium, phosphorus, and all kinds of things. First of all, this is false since the semen in these cases get excreted with the next urination. It isn't magically 'absorbed' into the body. Second, much of this nonsense comes from a book called PRACTICE OF BRAHMACHARYA which is a book on celibacy that goes on and on about why sex and orgasms are bad. It literally claims that orgasms and ejaculation LEAD TO EARLY DEATH. And now people who want to practice what they believe to be 'tantra' take this 20th century shit as a fact, although the authors have purposely or unknowingly misinterpreted the actual tantras that are thousands of years old and FULL of descriptions of the positive outcomes of sexual union. But sure, let's listen disregard the old texts and stick with the corrupted and PERVERTED New Age crap that gets promoted instead. We might as well read the fucking bible and turn the other cheek, it's just as corrupted. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the authors on this are Jews.
If people want to do this for endurance or whatever, there are probably other ways to achieve this than to have severely watered down orgasms.
Some and self-appointed 'tantra' experts claim that when semen is retained, it provides the brain and central nervous system with calcium, phosphorus, and all kinds of things. First of all, this is false since the semen in these cases get excreted with the next urination. It isn't magically 'absorbed' into the body. Second, much of this nonsense comes from a book called PRACTICE OF BRAHMACHARYA which is a book on celibacy that goes on and on about why sex and orgasms are bad. It literally claims that orgasms and ejaculation LEAD TO EARLY DEATH. And now people who want to practice what they believe to be 'tantra' take this 20th century shit as a fact, although the authors have purposely or unknowingly misinterpreted the actual tantras that are thousands of years old and FULL of descriptions of the positive outcomes of sexual union. But sure, let's listen disregard the old texts and stick with the corrupted and PERVERTED New Age crap that gets promoted instead. We might as well read the fucking bible and turn the other cheek, it's just as corrupted. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the authors on this are Jews.
If people want to do this for endurance or whatever, there are probably other ways to achieve this than to have severely watered down orgasms.
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High Priest Lucius Oria wrote about the subjekt:
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1533&p=14357&hilit=mantak+chia#p14357
" ( LaconicLion wrote:
So I skimmed over a bit of Mantak Chia. Is the parts about semen retention bullshit then? Doesn't matter if the physical fluid gets spilled if you use the orgasmic energy?)
If you ejaculate its fine and healthy for you. If you ejaculate way too much then its not good for you. If you never ejaculate then its also not good. Some retention is good but release is also necessary. Its about balance.
Sexual Kungfu allows the practitioner to separate ejaculation from orgasm so they are able to have multiple orgasms without ejaculating. This is the way of Maithuna."
My expirience with Sexual Kungfu:
I read the book multiorgasmik men (3/4) from mantak chia, also tried it a little (too busy) well i didn´t had a multiorgasmik but, i did feel the energy flowing from the genital to the head, I think everybody could learn to be multiorgasmik which will speed up the spiritual development if used wise. In the book they said with age the amount of ejakulations someone should do every weeks/monts should be reduced. But they didn´t consider to re use the energy (chakra empowerment). With proper diet there should be no problem (like HPS Shannon mentioned it). withhold your seeds to learn the above is totally worth.
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1533&p=14357&hilit=mantak+chia#p14357
" ( LaconicLion wrote:
So I skimmed over a bit of Mantak Chia. Is the parts about semen retention bullshit then? Doesn't matter if the physical fluid gets spilled if you use the orgasmic energy?)
If you ejaculate its fine and healthy for you. If you ejaculate way too much then its not good for you. If you never ejaculate then its also not good. Some retention is good but release is also necessary. Its about balance.
Sexual Kungfu allows the practitioner to separate ejaculation from orgasm so they are able to have multiple orgasms without ejaculating. This is the way of Maithuna."
My expirience with Sexual Kungfu:
I read the book multiorgasmik men (3/4) from mantak chia, also tried it a little (too busy) well i didn´t had a multiorgasmik but, i did feel the energy flowing from the genital to the head, I think everybody could learn to be multiorgasmik which will speed up the spiritual development if used wise. In the book they said with age the amount of ejakulations someone should do every weeks/monts should be reduced. But they didn´t consider to re use the energy (chakra empowerment). With proper diet there should be no problem (like HPS Shannon mentioned it). withhold your seeds to learn the above is totally worth.
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I masturbate when I feel like I need to, if I do it everyday after a while it feels like i need to recharge, so I do it every 2-3 days, but not more than that because I have noticed that if I don’t do it my mind will become foggy and I can’t tune much to my femminine side, oh and orgasms are greater too.
Why do you have an toughtform Lover. I read an article here that your Guardian demon will destroy thoughtforms for sexual pleasure. Also why do you should fck with a thoughtform this isn't good!? You were with this thoughtform two lifetimes does this even more curious. That sounds really unreal. How do you know its a thoughtform and not a real Spirit? Do you know what you are talking?
