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Lunarmystic

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Are they the ones who get to decide ar the end of the day, if a practitioner gets to become a god or not, regardless of their efforts? Do they have control over humans working through godhood? Of yes. Wouldn't that contradict the notion of hard work and free will?
 
Are they the ones who get to decide ar the end of the day, if a practitioner gets to become a god or not, regardless of their efforts? Do they have control over humans working through godhood? Of yes. Wouldn't that contradict the notion of hard work and free will?
No, becoming a God has nothing to do with other beings making you a god, it only depends on your effort and doing specific practices. These practices do come from the Gods and they give them to people they guide only when they are ready for them. Godhood is the result of awakening certain things inside your soul by using these practices, as everybody has the potential to become a God dormant inside their DNA.
 
Are they the ones who get to decide ar the end of the day, if a practitioner gets to become a god or not, regardless of their efforts? Do they have control over humans working through godhood? Of yes. Wouldn't that contradict the notion of hard work and free will?
If person will work hard for it based on his free will, is ready on a soul and able, and Gods while seeing into his/her future see that they will become Gods(which I believe is ordained from the very beginning of soul development) yes they allow and help.

But what kind of hardwork and free will you speak?
If you speak about freedom in our existence, in truth we have freedom to do what is needed to become Gods or we don’t, and if we don’t we stagnate and dissolve.
 
Are they the ones who get to decide ar the end of the day, if a practitioner gets to become a god or not, regardless of their efforts? Do they have control over humans working through godhood? Of yes. Wouldn't that contradict the notion of hard work and free will?
This is our freedom: to do what is needed most, or to do samsaric nonesense and be stuck until we die, and keep like that until our soul dies also. Or we choose path of living and work on our soul, so that it could flower and grow.
 
Not in a direct, ordinate sense. Naturally, as you grow, you will align yourself more with the Gods, because that  is how Godhood works. The Gods have mastered their paths and align themselves with important roles and endeavors of Nature and Existence, which are heavily involved in growth.
A human being that is moving upwards will have the favor of the Gods and be more like them over time, because that is what we were designed to do.
It is a process of growth, yes, but in the sense that this is our purpose, it is also a process of self discovery.
 
Similarly to how you "obey" the laws of gravity without deliberately choosing to do so.
 
Are they the ones who get to decide ar the end of the day, if a practitioner gets to become a god or not, regardless of their efforts? Do they have control over humans working through godhood? Of yes. Wouldn't that contradict the notion of hard work and free will?
Because universe grows always, if one is not growing with it, he goes opposite, universe is life, opposite of it is death.

If tree grows to its fullest no matter what same as any plant, one has freedom do do the same or not.

Freedom is to live or die.

Life is hard work as you said, yes because for tree to grow he has to handle wind, storms, shadows, other plants, heat and cold, and still grow to its fullest.

Death, stagnation and ignorance is other way. That’s what about free will.
 
This is internal in yourself. The Gods help and guide us. But you are the one who needs to do the work. Either you do the work or you don't.
 
and they give them to people they guide only when they are ready for them.
So they perhaps do have some form of control, by withholding information.


But what kind of hardwork and free will you speak?

But you are the one who needs to do the work. Either you do the work or you don't.

This does not answer my question. I do not question the effort and hard work required for this feat. What I mean is: can the gods even refuse someone becoming a god? can they decide to strip another being of their godhood status, or to block their path to godhead, simply due to whatever reason? For example, not believing in every single criteria presented here as "ethical"?
 
So they perhaps do have some form of control, by withholding information.

This does not answer my question. I do not question the effort and hard work required for this feat. What I mean is: can the gods even refuse someone becoming a god? can they decide to strip another being of their godhood status, or to block their path to godhead, simply due to whatever reason? For example, not believing in every single criteria presented here as "ethical"?


Ethics are essential to becoming a God and wielding power. If that bothers you, I am afraid you must spend a bit more time meditating.

Here are all the ethics, I am sure some of these are very terrible and hard to agree with. Such as, do not have sex with an animal or treat children well. Let me know which ones you disagree with.

 
So they perhaps do have some form of control, by withholding information.






This does not answer my question. I do not question the effort and hard work required for this feat. What I mean is: can the gods even refuse someone becoming a god? can they decide to strip another being of their godhood status, or to block their path to godhead, simply due to whatever reason? For example, not believing in every single criteria presented here as "ethical"?
To be a god you have to be like gods. So you have to listen to them, follow their example, and put it into your life. And why would they do that? Any person with any chakra can go on the path of becoming a god. Except Jews. (The Jews are cursed. And they have no chakras. Their souls are different.) The gods don't stop anyone from becoming a god.
 
A God?
That's reaching high.
Perhaps get through the lives before you.
You are aware of Father's words, that's a good thing.
The karmic ladder is almost impossible to discern as to direction.
Just because you're in an upward trajectory doesn't ensure godhood.
There's work to be done.
 
So they perhaps do have some form of control, by withholding information.
They don't deliberately withhold information that would magically instantly make you more advanced.
Yes, Lord Satan could probably let you see through a God's eyes for a few moments, but it would be like showing a baby the blueprints for a rocket ship. The baby can't suddenly just build it.

Text is just a bunch of scribbles until you understand the writing system and it suddenly has meaning.

The Gods' guidance is in perfect alignment with Satan's Ethics and Principles, which are in perfect alignment with Nature and existence itself. The Gods are beautifully integrated into the natural process of growth, they don't withhold any growth.

No, Gods can't strip away Godhood. The very first level of the Godhead comes with a fully materialized and advanced astral body which is effectively indestructible. Beings of Godhood probably can't kill each other. Not that they'd have a reason to.
And you seem to think of ethics as a law you obey deliberately. The Ethics of the Gods are deeply rooted within what the four Crowns represent and their specific Godhoods, which are perfectly aligned with Nature and the natural process of Godhood. They are a blueprint to how mastering the universe and advancement works, not laws in the traditional sense.
 
oh, and another thing, and this isnt just directed only at you, but maybe drop the whole "Im such a holy saint and better than you" act when responding? frankly, its kinda cringe, especially when spoken by some rando online.
I need proper evidence and proof on how racemixing damages the soul and the body, with empirical evidence, not some far-off shobby distant thories. IF you dont have that, kindly shut up. I dont need theories or ideals, so dont bother responding if you feel offended and have nothing to offer.
In response to the last 2 things you wrote: Please show respect. Know your steps. No one here has to answer you. But we answer you, why? So that humanity can develop. You cannot talk to anybody like this. If you need scientific things and if you need scientific experiments, look for them. If you are waiting for knowledge to come to you, you will wait for a long time.

The gods are against race mixing. We don't question their wisdom. And I am already surrounded by friends born of different races. And they all have troubled families, they have their own psychological disorders and physical illnesses.

No one is showing “superiority” here. you perceive it as “superiority” because that is what knowledge and wisdom requires. a knowledgeable person is always better than an uninformed person and that can make you feel “superiority”. I hope I have chosen my words in the right way and that you understand.
 
I need proper evidence and proof on how racemixing damages the soul and the body, with empirical evidence, not some far-off shobby distant thories. IF you dont have that, kindly shut up. I dont need theories or ideals, so dont bother responding if you feel offended and have nothing to offer.
Oh.
So you've decided on schizophrenic psychotic pig as your persona.
Your choice I guess.
Okay.
Anyways the God's intended the breeds to perfect themselves amongst themselves, to join with others, bring their talents and skills to a table of humanity and grow all of us to the spiritual awakening that awaits a properly developed humanity.
You're angry because the work involved in cleaning up that which is you and your kind is not only incredibly difficult, but you're having rejection anxiety in addition to dealing with the reality that if you in fact clean up you DNA enough to be a viable soul reincarnation option you will not experience it in this conscious lifetime.
No one said this would be easy.
It's similar to countries stopping certain fruits, vegetables, and animals from entering another geographical area.
Some things just shouldn't mix.

It's actually quite simple.
There's a reason purebreds are worth more.

Stop being stupid.
 
I’m mixed race and it’s my life mission to advocate against race mixing. Race mixing is NOT okay under any circumstances. Race mixing is a crime against nature and a crime against humanity. In my opinion, race mixing should be outlawed.

A mixed race person who’s 60% European is not white and shouldn’t reproduce with white people. I’m 60% Southern European + 30% Native American and I’m not white.

The picture below shows a man that’s 72% European (these photos are from the r/23andme subreddit and he posted this publicly on Reddit himself, he’s not a JoS member):

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Source

This man is clearly not white.

Race mixing is scientifically proven to have detrimental consequences such as mixed race people having infertility, health issues, defects/disabilities, etc. due to being mixed. Scientific proof:


Mixed race people can't receive organ donations as readily as others due to being mixed. By mixing races, we're impairing our healthcare. Mixed race people cannot receive certain organ donations: http://archive.is/e2aTE

Mixed race people are more likely to have a variety of medical issues.

Sources:
- White-Asian children are twice as likely as Asians to have mental illness. http://news.ucdavis.edu/search/news_detail.lasso?id=8732
- White/Black babies are less healthy than monoracial babies. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2867623/
- Mixed race couples are more likely to have stillborn babies than same-race couples. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15994621
- Black-White children are more likely than both Black and Whites to make poor decisions. http://www.nber.org/papers/w14192
- Mixed race kids suffer from low self-esteem, social isolation, and poor family dynamics. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/
- Mixed race children are more likely to have health problems, high stress, smoke, and drink. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/


 
I need proper evidence and proof on how racemixing damages the soul and the body, with empirical evidence, not some far-off shobby distant thories. IF you dont have that, kindly shut up. I dont need theories or ideals, so dont bother responding if you feel offended and have nothing to offer.
Here is some evidence for you.


Mixed race children suffer from more health problems:
Race mixing leads to outbreeding depression & pairings of non-complementary traits.
A massively well-funded study of over 100,000 school children found that “Adolescents who identify themselves as mixed race are at higher health and behavior risk than those of 1 race.” Indeed, even when controlling for education, socioeconomic status, and other factors, there is an across-the board higher rate of health risks amongst mixed race adolescents than mono-racial adolescents.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/
https://sci-hub.tw/10.2105/ajph.93.11.1865
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One study found that White-Asian mixes had a 2x higher rate of being “diagnosed with a psychological disorder, such as anxiety, depression or substance abuse.”
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 081108.php
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http://archive.is/uRVel

A study on Black-White mixes in agreement found that ”When it comes to engaging in risky/anti-social adolescent behavior, however, mixed race adolescents are stark outliers compared to both blacks and whites.” This holds true despite being raised in similar environments to mono-racial children.
http://www.msu.edu/~renn/RHE-_mixed_race.pdf
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https://web.archive.org/web/20191216164 ... d_race.pdf

Often race-deniers will bring up Haldane’s rule, arguing that since races can mix and create fertile offspring, the genetic distance is not too great. Haldane’s rule is “when in the offspring of two different animal races one sex is absent, rare, or sterile, that sex is the heterogametic [XY] sex.”
http://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpag ... c-sex-1144
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http://archive.is/o7Oy6

Indeed, although Black-White mixes are not sterile and males are not absent, males (the heterogametic sex) are more rare than females.
http://www.jstor.org/pss/1537084
https://sci-hub.tw/10.2307/1537084
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http://archive.is/4KJg8

The argument regarding Haldane’s rule is also meaningless because different species in the animal kingdom can breed and still produce fertile offspring. The wolf (Canis lupus) and the dog (Canis lupus familiaris), the coyote (Canis latrans), and the common jackal (Canis aureus) are separate species yet can all interbreed and produce fertile offspring.
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/3 ... 9085472247
https://sci-hub.tw/10.2307/3671304
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http://archive.is/LnmVW

Two species of orangutan (Pongo abellii from Sumatra and Pongo pygmaeus from Borneo) can interbreed despite having different chromosomal numbers.
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/02/28/scien ... all&src=pm
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The common chimpanzee (Pan troglodytes) and the bonobo (Pan paniscus) and many species of birds, such as the pintail (Anas acuta) and the mallard (Anas platyrhynchos), can interbreed as well.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 104723.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20120212140 ... wonderful/
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http://archive.is/dxeeF

The gibbon and the siamang can also interbreed to produce a hybrid
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/451603
https://sci-hub.tw/10.1126/science.451603
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1060807
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http://archive.is/660TM

Some species that aren’t even in the same genus can interbreed.
http://aob.oxfordjournals.org/content/74/2/111.full.pdf
https://sci-hub.tw/10.1006/anbo.1994.1100
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https://web.archive.org/web/20180930143 ... edFrom=PDF

Black Americans are a hybrid race of around 22% White ancestry
http://genomebiology.com/content/10/12/r141
https://sci-hub.tw/10.1186/1746-5354-4-1-12
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http://archive.is/Drwfh

“Indiscriminate interbreeding between distinct forms, whether ‘species’ or markedly different races, is not generally beneficial. The defect may show in a change in the sex-ratio of the offspring, probably caused by the early abortion of members of one sex, generally the male in the case of mammals.”
http://www.amazon.com/Race-John-R-Baker/dp/0936396040
http://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/ ... r-Race.pdf

LTA4H, or “leukotriene A4 hydrolase” is found on chromosome 17. An allele of this gene increases the risk of heart attack (the #1 cause of death in America) in Blacks by more than 250%, but only 16% in Whites. The 30% of Whites with this allele have counteracting genes, while the 6% of Black Americans who obtained it through race mixing do not.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16282974
https://sci-hub.tw/10.1038/ng1692
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The average rate of success for mixed race couples is around half that of same race couples, 0.127 compared to 0.213.
http://www.jstor.org/stable/4145377
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http://archive.is/1zdiR

There is evidence that the more similar the two people are, the happier their marriage tends to be.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 699190057I
https://sci-hub.tw/https://www.scienced ... 699190057I
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A study in Iceland showed that 3rd cousin marriages are the most fertile and successful. Suggesting that mating within one's ethnic/racial group would be more beneficial than outside of one's ethnic/racial group.
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/319/5864/813.abstract
https://sci-hub.tw/10.1126/science.1150232
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One study showed that people tend to find their own face when morphed into the opposite sex most attractive, even when he/she doesn't know it's his own face, strongly suggesting that people typically prefer those who look like themselves, in other words their own racial/ethnic group.
http://www.psyc.nott.ac.uk/research/vis ... ak1999.pdf
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Hybrid vigor (heterosis) does not seem to apply to humans as we are already very heterozygous, at 0.776 [http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/14/7/707.full.pdf] Compared to dogs for example at 0.401. [http://www.eebweb.arizona.edu/Courses/Ecol406R_506R/Garcia-Moreno1996-Wolf.pdf]

Although some argue that race mixing "averages out" traits and since average faces are considered more attractive [http://cs.brown.edu/courses/cs143/2009/lecture13.pdf] then mixed race offspring are more attractive.

HOWEVER, this is fallacious as it assumes we are designed for perfect symmetry, when in fact the magnitude of asymmetry is the correct measurement and this random component fluctuates, also called "fluctuating asymmetry" - so more honestly a lower level of asymmetry correlates with increased attractiveness, not symmetry.
http://beheco.oxfordjournals.org/conten ... 4.abstract
https://sci-hub.tw/10.1093/beheco/arh099
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http://archive.is/TCeAF

But does increased heterozygosity cause lower asymmetry? A meta analysis of 118 datasets in 14 studies showed a very weak inverse correlation between the two, showing that increased heterozygosity has no beneficial effect on symmetry or asymmetry
http://www.nature.com/hdy/journal/v83/n ... 5550a.html
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One study on the craniofacial morphology in White-Amerindian mixed race individuals found that over half of the 52 shape variables deviated from the mathematical average completely shattering the above argument.
http://majorityrights.com/images/upload ... indian.pdf
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https://web.archive.org/web/20180223171 ... indian.pdf

The neurotransmitter oxytocin "makes people more co-operative, benevolent, loyal, generous and trusting of others. It is involved in the parent-child bond - new mothers and fathers have raised levels of oxytocin. Production also increases when people hug and when they have sex and, recent research suggests, when they receive psychological warmth." However, oxytocin has been alleged to "foster racism."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... one-racism
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The study found that "intergroup bias that fuels prejudice, xenophobia, and intergroup violence… Which maybe modulated by brain oxytocin." This suggests that the instinctual desire to pursue the interests of one's own ethnic group to further ensure the existence of one's people is linked to racial bias, coinciding with the observation that diversity is a weakness, not a strength.
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2011/01/06/1015316108
https://sci-hub.tw/10.1073/pnas.1015316108
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http://archive.is/2bm3

One study found that during the menstrual cycle when women have a higher likelihood of conception, racial bias is increased, especially when the likelihood of sexual intercourse was increased; "increased conception risk was positively associated with several measures of race bias. This association was particularly strong when perceived vulnerability to sexual coercion was high."

>Although egalitarians suggest that only a racist would consider race when it comes to reproduction and mate choice, this study observed a general, innate tendency to prefer one's own race especially when most likely to be impregnated.
https://sci-hub.tw/10.1177/0956797611410985

Race Is A Social Construct?
The Immune System: How Important Is Race?
>"If Nick Glasgow were white, he would have a nearly 90 percent chance of finding a matching bone marrow donor who could cure his leukemia."
The reason that mixed-heritage patients are so hard to match can be found in the immune system. Different races have developed certain proteins, or markers, that are part of the body's natural defenses. These markers help the immune system determine which cells are foreign and should be rejected.
Are cells racist?
A match between two people who share more genetically in common significantly reduces the risk of the donor and recipient cells attacking each other. (READ: cells from people of two different races will attack and fight each other as though they are a virus)
The more people of different backgrounds who produce offspring = the more types that are harder to match.
Multiracial patients have uncommon profiles and since there can be many possible racial and ethnic combinations in multiracial societies, finding a match can still be extremely difficult.
http://archive.is/uJX9b

As an example, a White mother of mixed-race child would have more genetically in common with a random White person on the street than with her own child.
If such a dramatic and fundamental alienation from your own parents if not horrific enough, With a mixed-race child diagnosed with leukemia, every member of the child's own family becomes an incompatible donor for a bone-marrow transplant, and finding a compatible donor is unlikely:
One obstacle to finding a matching donor was her mixed ethnic background. Her father is black, with West Indian and Panamanian roots. Her mother is white, with Russian-Jewish roots. In addition, only 5 percent of registered donors are black.
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/04/18/sport ... -dies.html
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Bone Marrow Transplants: When Race Is an Issue
"Compared to organ transplants, bone marrow donations need to be even more genetically similar to their recipients. Since all the immune system's cells come from bone marrow, a transplant essentially introduces a new immune system to a person. Without genetic similarity between the donor and the patient, the new white blood cells will attack the host body."
http://content.time.com/time/health/art ... 74,00.html
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Race matters when a patient needs a stem cell or marrow transplant
If you become ill with a blood cancer or other disease that requires a stem cell transplant, here's an uncomfortable fact: Your race matters. Diversity is a strength in much of life, [citation needed!] but it's a curse when finding a stem cell donor match.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html
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The Race for Ancestral Genetics in Clinical Trials
>A seasoned cancer researcher would never set up a study in which all the ill patients were, say, Canadian, and all the healthy controls were Japanese. And yet cancer researchers risk making a similar mistake if they overlook genetic information that fleshes out what many of us like to think of as race or ethnicity, some experts say.
>Fortunately, awareness of how ancestral genetics might contribute to risk of disease and drug response in people has risen over the last several years. Studies that look directly at the problem are on the rapid rise, and this increased interest has biotechnology companies lowering the cost of tests that determine genetic ancestry, thanks to a little competition. However, experts have yet to decide on how to genetically define ancestry, suggesting examining anywhere from a handful to hundreds of gene variants.
>Not including information on the race or ethnicity of study volunteers could skew disease risks as stronger or weaker than they really are.
>"Alzheimer's disease is the poster child for this problem," says pharmacogeneticist Esteban Burchard, M.D., of the University of California in San Francisco. A variant of the gene ApoE4 is a strong genetic risk factor for early-onset Alzheimer's disease, and the characteristic most likely to raise or lower that risk is race.
>"It occurs in about 20% of the African American population, and it means nothing. It occurs in about 6% of the Japanese, and it makes their risk six times higher [than that for white people]," Burchard said. "Something about being Japanese unleashes the wrath of the gene, and something about being African American attenuates it."
http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/98/18/1270.full ; https://sci-hub.tw/10.1093/jnci/djj402
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BiDil
>The FDA have approved a heart failure drug called Bidil, but only for black people, as black people do not benefit from conventional heart failure drugs.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1160964 ... mg=com-wsj
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1687161/
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http://archive.is/44SgJ
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Sickle-Cell Disease
Sickle cell anaemia is a condition found almost exclusively in blacks, about 1 in 4 west Africans carry the gene for it, almost no whites do. Any whites who carry the gene most likely have a black ancestor.
As a result of population growth in African-Caribbean regions of overseas France and immigration from North and sub-Saharan Africa to mainland France, sickle cell disease has become a major health problem in France. SCD has become the most common genetic disease in this country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sickle_cell_anemia

Invasive species: Genes Are Destroyed With Admixture/Racial Mixing
Extinction by hybridization:
>Non-indigenous species can bring about a form of extinction of native flora and fauna by hybridization and introgression either through purposeful introduction by humans or through habitat modification, bringing previously isolated species into contact. These phenomena can be especially problematic for rare species coming into contact with more abundant ones. Increased use of molecular techniques focuses attention on the extent of this under-appreciated problem that is not always apparent from morphological observations alone. Some degree of gene flow is a normal, evolutionarily constructive process, and all constellations of genes and genotypes cannot be preserved. However, hybridization with or without introgression may, nevertheless, threaten a rare species' existence.
http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10 ... ys.27.1.83
https://sci-hub.tw/10.1146/annurev.ecolsys.27.1.83
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http://archive.is/arvo

The Island Model with Stochastic Migration:
>It is supposed that the migration rate and the immigrant gene frequency are independent of each other in each generation, and each of them is independently and identically distributed in every generation. The treatment is confined to a single diallelic locus without mutation. If the diploid population is infinite, selection is absent and the immigrant gene frequency is fixed, then the gene frequency on the island converges to the immigrant frequency, and the logarithm of the absolute value of its deviation from it is asymptotically normally distributed.
The above implies that if you have two genes in some frequency in the immigrant population, under one way migration that frequency becomes the dominant frequency on the island.
>We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.
What this means is that the genes initially on the model island, in effect, disappeared.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... df/163.pdf

Evolution with Stochastic Fitness and Stochastic Migration
>Migration between local populations plays an important role in evolution - influencing local adaptation, speciation, extinction, and the maintenance of genetic variation.
>A number of studies have shown that when per capita population growth rate is treated as a random variable, rather than a fixed parameter, then directional evolution is influenced not only by the expected fitness of each phenotype, but also by the variance and other moments [23], [28]-[33]. This follows from the fact that, in a closed population, change in mean phenotype is inversely proportional to mean population fitness
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Ad ... ne.0007130 ; https://sci-hub.tw/10.1371/journal.pone.0007130

Figure 1. The consequences of a negative correlation between fitness and immigration rate:
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https://files.catbox.moe/1chmrf.png

Figure 2. The influence of the variance in immigration rates, on the expected change in mean phenotype:
https://files.catbox.moe/6lfnv7.png

Essentially, when the variance in the immigration rate is small it results in a negative phenotypic change on the mean phenotype of a population, as the migrant phenotypes predominate.

Figure 3. The relation between variance in immigration, selection, and in an island-continent model:
https://files.catbox.moe/ubg1ql.png

>The curves show the change in mean phenotypic value assuming a mean phenotypic value as decided by a population's selection.
>The variance in migration is shown in descending value on the curves.

Though the mean rate of migration is the same on all the curves, it is clear that the the island can still get close to fixation of the phenotype favored there, so long as the variance in immigration is high.

So for this figure, assuming that migration is an indefinitely persisting condition, migrants will prevent the local island favored phenotype from remaining intact, as they are essentially working against selection.
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The models/simulations in these studies are based on understanding evolutionary genetics, on how migration influenced evolution, which makes them excellent sources for metaphors on the effects of modern immigration rates in human populations.

Allopatric speciation
Allopatric speciation or geographic speciation is speciation that occurs when biological populations of the same species become vicariant — isolated from each other to an extent that prevents or interferes with genetic interchange. This can be the result of population dispersal leading to emigration, or by geographical changes such as mountain formation, island formation, or large scale human activities (for example agricultural and civil engineering developments). The vicariant populations then undergo genotypic or phenotypic divergence as: (a) they become subjected to different selective pressures, (b) they independently undergo genetic drift, and (c) different mutations arise in the populations’ gene pools.[1]

The separate populations over time may evolve distinctly different characteristics. If the geographical barriers are later removed, members of the two populations may be unable to successfully mate with each other, at which point, the genetically isolated groups have emerged as different species. Allopatric isolation is a key factor in speciation and a common process by which new species arise.[2] Adaptive radiation, as observed by Charles Darwin in Galapagos finches, is a consequence of allopatric speciation among island populations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allopatric_speciation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciation

Reproductive isolation - Sexual isolation by behavior or conduct
Even where there are minimal morphological differences between species, differences in behavior can be enough to prevent mating. For example, Drosophila melanogaster and D. simulans which are considered twin species due to their morphological similarity, do not mate even if they are kept together in a laboratory.[3][12]Drosophila ananassae and D. pallidosa are twin species from Melanesia. In the wild they rarely produce hybrids, although in the laboratory it is possible to produce fertile offspring. Studies of their sexual behavior show that the males court the females of both species but the females show a marked preference for mating with males of their own species.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproductive_isolation

>Drosophila fruit flies are popular choices for these types of experiments.
https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibra ... cle/evo_42

Just imagine what a few extra years of separation could have done for certain human populations…

Well...

>"Human races are evolving away from each other," Harpending says. "Genes are evolving fast in Europe, Asia and Africa, but almost all of these are unique to their continent of origin. We are getting less alike, not merging into a single, mixed humanity." He says that is happening because humans dispersed from Africa to other regions 40,000 years ago, "and there has not been much flow of genes between the regions since then."

https://archive.unews.utah.edu/news_rel ... ng-faster/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... apart.html

Read More:
https://archive.fo/LRe05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gTRVKsBiSU
http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/10/15/race-mixing/
http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/race-and-iq-mixed-populations-part-1/
http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/race-and-iq-mixed-populations-part-2/


What Makes You Click? Mate Preferences and Matching Outcomes in Online Dating
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=895442

Data on Interracial Marriages:
https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/10/15/race-mixing/

Understanding the Elevated Prevalence of Intimate Partner Violence in Interracial
Relationships
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0886260518781803

Mixed-race couples, residential mobility, and neighborhood poverty
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X17304908#!

Interracial divorce, the matrix of sex & race
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/03/Interracial-divorce,-the-matrix-of-sex-&-race/


STUDY: SPOUSAL HOMICIDES IN INTERRACIAL MARRIAGES EIGHT TIMES MORE FREQUENT THAN IN MONORACIAL MARRIAGES
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/017832.html


Intimate Partner Violence in Interracial and Monoracial Couples
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3611980/

Partnerships discordant in terms of race/ethnicity, age, education, and number of partners were associated with significant risk for gonorrhea and chlamydial infection.

https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.89.6.825

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2_K5koFGRY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s3U64VUYg4

Race Mixing Pastebin:
https://archive.fo/ktBpK

http://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/?p=5952

Women who claim to be willing to date any race are lying and are just as discriminatory as women with explicit racial preferences. Source: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=895442

RACE MIXING AND WHY IT'S BAD

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http://pastebin.com/tGMEhbhf
http://msu.edu/~renn/RHE-_mixed_race.pdf
http://sociobiologicalmusings.blogspot.ca/2011/10/problems-with-mixed-race-marriages-and.html
http://nature.com/scitable/topicpage/haldane-s-rule-the-heterogametic-sex-1144
https://pastebin.com/tGMEhbhf

Outbreeding depression
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outbreeding_depression
Asian-white couples face distinct pregnancy risks, Stanford/Packard study finds
http://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2008/10/asian-white-couples-face-distinct-pregnancy-risks-stanfordpackard-study-finds.html

1/3 of hapas (white+asian) suffer from mental illness
https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/biracial-asian-americans-and-mental-health?id=8732
Most congenital problems are more common on mixed-race babies:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15390318

Race mixing can trigger dental problems (in Portuguese, talking about this problem in Brazil)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH7narf8Kzc
Prematurity and Low Birth Weight are a lot more common in mixed-race babies
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2867623/

Mixed-race people have the highest mental illness rates:
https://www.unc.edu/news/archives/oct03/udry10302003.html
Organ donations must be from person with the same race and similar genetics, due to this, mixed-race people for having peculiar genetic combinations face challenges when they try to receive organ donations
http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1993074,00.html

Teenagers who identify as mixed-race have greater health and behavioural risks than those who identify with only one race:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/
Half Black/Half White teenagers show much more anti-social behaviour than both black and whites teenagers:
http://www.msu.edu/~renn/RHE-_mixed_race.pdf

https://pastebin.com/rZLLPKVR

https://nationalvanguard.org/2018/04/mixed-race-infants-are-unhealthy-because-of-complex-gene-environment-interaction/

Health and Behavior Risks of Adolescents with Mixed-Race Identity
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/

Household Production and Racial Intermarriage
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-1-4614-1623-4_9

Interracial Relationships and the Transition to Adulthood
https://www.jstor.org/stable/4145377?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0886260509354510

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16250407/

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/young-people-look-for-love-within-their-own-race-brszq703w

https://www.counter-currents.com/2018/09/the-war-against-white-women/#_ftnref6

https://christophercantwell.com/2018/06/24/whos-behind-the-race-mixing-agenda-in-advertising/

http://web.archive.org/web/20180329222037/https://preservingeurope.wordpress.com/2018/01/05/white-american-women-are-less-likely-to-race-mix/

http://pastebin.com/tGMEhbhf
http://msu.edu/~renn/RHE-_mixed_race.pdf
http://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/
http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1993074,00.html
http://sociobiologicalmusings.blogspot.ca/2011/10/problems-with-mixed-race-marriages-and.html
http://nature.com/scitable/topicpage/haldane-s-rule-the-heterogametic-sex-1144

https://archive.is/PiCDX

http://pastebin.com/tGMEhbhf
http://msu.edu/~renn/RHE-_mixed_race.pdf
http://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/
http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1993074,00.html
http://sociobiologicalmusings.blogspot.ca/2011/10/problems-with-mixed-race-marriages-and.html
http://nature.com/scitable/topicpage/haldane-s-rule-the-heterogametic-sex-1144
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3775670/#!po=56.5574

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/08/17/177634

http://pubmedcentralcanada.ca/pmcc/articles/PMC3775670

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289616301854

http://m.pnas.org/content/111/22/7996

https://pastebin.com/9pvAexCQ

Some stuff on race mixing, interethnic marriages seem to have higher divorce risks, and the offspring of those marriages tend to be involved in more risky behavior

Intermarriage and the Unhealthy Assimilation of Immigrant Descendants

This paper studies the effects of assimilation on the health of Hispanics in the US. I exploit a unique dataset of linked birth records and use ethnic intermarriage as a metric of acculturation. Intermarried Hispanics have a significantly higher socio-economic status than endogamously married Hispanics. Despite their higher socio-economic status and the positive socio-economic gradient in health, third-generation children of second- generation intermarried Hispanic women are more likely to have poor health at birth, even after I account for second-generation health at birth, employ only within-family variations in the extent of assimilation, and consider the endogeneity of intermarriage. These results do not appear to be driven by father's selectivity nor by individual unobservable characteristics associated with intermarriage. The children of intermarried natives do not receive the same "health penalty", nor do Hispanics intermarried to other ethnic groups. The intermarriage "health penalty" largely reflects the higher incidence of risky behaviors (e.g., smoking during pregnancy) among intermarried Hispanic women.
http://ftp.iza.org/dp8481.pdf
Integration of Ethnic Minorities: Do They Divorce as Natives Do? [Evidence from Denmark]

We investigate the divorce patterns among non-Western immigrants and natives in Denmark. [...] We show that inter-ethnic couples (one native, one immigrant) in general are more likely to divorce than native couples (two natives), while co-ethnic couples (two immigrants) are less likely to divorce, when controlling for differences in socioeconomic characteristics. In particular, co-ethnic couples composed of a first- and second-generation immigrant are less likely to divorce, while the divorce probability is the highest among inter-ethnic couples composed of a native woman and a first-generation immigrant man.
http://ftp.iza.org/dp9727.pdf

An interesting thing for the U.S. is that many people with parents or grandparents from more than one racial group do not identify themselves as multiracial. So the true population numbers of people who have these illnesses are likely extremely under-represented in census data.
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2015/06/11/multiracial-in-america/

Multiracial Individuals have one of the highest rates of substance use (SAMHSA, 2013; Choi et al., 2006; Jackson & Lecroy, 2009; Udry et al., 2003).

Mixed race individuals (black and white) were found to have the highest reported rate of mental health issues in canada
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28393550

https://mchb.hrsa.gov/nsch/07main/national/1child/1healthstatus/pages/05adhd.html

1) The highest rate of ADHD, at 15.2%, is in the mixed race category.

2) The highest rate of 'Learning Disability, at 14.6%, is in the mixed race category.

3) The highest rate of 'Behavioral Difficulty', at 12.8%, is in the mixed race category.

Outbreeding depression
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outbreeding_depression

Prematurity and Low Birth Weight are a lot more common in mixed-race babies
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2867623/

Mixed-race people have the highest mental illness rates:
https://www.unc.edu/news/archives/oct03/udry10302003.html


Teenagers who identify as mixed-race have greater health and behavioural risks than those who identify with only one race:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/

Hybrid and multi-racial animal offsprings suffer from a decline in their reproductive and adaptive capacity
http://www.jstor.org/pss/1537084

Interracial Marriage and Mortality: Evidence from the United States, 1986-2004

In light of persistent stigma and discrimination against interracial marriages, as well as their high dissolution rates, our study examines the relationship between interracial marriage and mortality among Blacks and Whites {...} [R]esults show that interracial marriage is significantly associated with higher mortality risk
http://paa2012.princeton.edu/abstracts/122630
 
I need proper evidence and proof on how racemixing damages the soul and the body, with empirical evidence, not some far-off shobby distant thories. IF you dont have that, kindly shut up. I dont need theories or ideals, so dont bother responding if you feel offended and have nothing to offer.

What scientists are getting funding for doing studies on racemixing? Some studies exist on the topic of race, this area of research is constrained by ideological and political influence. It is considered to be "already known" that race-mixing is fine. However, this is based on a misunderstanding of development.

Each entity develops along its own path and this creates a natural diversity within the universe, not just in appearance but also in function. Further, as a race, family, or individual entity continues to develop their skills and advancement along their path, the positive karma accumulates. This then allows souls birthed along this line to make use of this heritage, rather than start from nothing. This can be seen in animal instincts; for example, I had watched a guard dog puppy instinctual know how to handle situations based on his ancestral karma.

So when you or someone racemixes, this disturbs the natural development process by mixing the karma of the two parents. That doesn't mean no amount of diverse bonding can happen, but the degree of this is likely to be less extreme to avoid conflicts here, also considering the state of the world.

Further, most of these cases of racemixing are brought upon by large scale immigration or colonization, as otherwise there would be no reason two different races would want to "settle" with another like that. Although related, massive immigration is its own problem, which compounds against the racemixing to further disturb overall racial harmony.

We are supposed to advance together as separate races, like allies who look out for each other and admire each other's skills, not fight over land and sexual partners.
 
How very extremely genius of you to assume I support such things. Goes to show how people think here.

Your "ethics" are different.

I will tell you what I disagree with actually. Funny how you go along with mentioning those things but completely miss out on the fact that this organization has some vaguely racist values. Is that not part of the equation or were you just being forgetful?

As JG AA explained, ethics are needed because this creates the basis for growth. How can I help increase your power if I think you could use it to commit a crime, for example? Ethics relate to energies like Libra and Capricorn, as they set the stage for social harmony and stability through which power is able to be held without problem.

I believe you think the Gods or someone is going to just block you over a disagreement, but that is not the case. Ethical behavior is something we advance towards and put effort into upholding. It is not just a way of life that is forced upon you, but something you come to understand as you advance. If it posed a major obstacle to you, it is likely your GD would encourage you to put effort here, just as they would help you overcome other obstacles on your path.

It would be silly for anyone to assume you are able to operate at 100% perfection in any area of life from the beginning. The way the Gods influence our path is beyond us and not just a binary "block or allow" system. It is not like you will be refused food because you didn't understand something.

Going back to your original question, your hard work on this path would naturally open yourself up to the ethics of higher states, by definition of advancement. If you are cleaning your heart chakra, for example, this allows you to operate on a higher state of balance and harmony. If you are cleaning or working on your Mars side, this gives an understanding of force, division, and the other aspect of justice, which also imparts ethical behavior of that area.

In other words, what sort of advancement are you doing, especially over years, which could not lead to ethical development? You seem to be worried about doing some sort of exercises over years and not being given anything for it, or even blocked for it, which is unlikely to happen.

If you have had problems with authorities in the past, it is possible you are subconsciously applying that frustration to the Gods' authority. However, they act in much more advanced ways, which is due to their ethical development, not in spite of it.
 
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How very extremely genius of you to assume I support such things. Goes to show how people think here.

Your "ethics" are different.

I will tell you what I disagree with actually. Funny how you go along with mentioning those things but completely miss out on the fact that this organization has some vaguely racist values. Is that not part of the equation or were you just being forgetful?
What do you define as "racist?"

We support and work with all human races, and there are tens of thousands of members here from all races. All human races are equally capable of growing to become Gods. This potential is in all humans. Which we are very clear about as we work to educate and assist all humans.

Race mixing is simply harmful. As I have given you a lot of evidence of. This is something that severely harms the child as the child will be born with genetic diseases, sicknesses, and weaknesses, and it is cruel and evil to purposefully decide for a child to be born with medical problems. This also directly causes the extinction of both of the parent races, as neither parent race is still existing within the child.

We support diversity, and we support all human races. We don't want all races to be made extinct and replaced by sick and genetically weakened children. We don't want children born with sickle cell, or disabled immune systems.

Or another example, white people on average have larger skulls than black people. This means that mixed race black and white babies have larger heads than black babies. This is the reason why the rate of black mothers having serious medical problems during child birth is so high, because the babies are having a larger head than what the mother's body is designed for. We don't want black mothers and babies having these serious medical problems during child birth due to containing altered physical traits from white DNA. We would rather have the mother and child both just be healthy and with no risks or problems.
 
So again someone came here and blamed us for racism. Well…

What is EXACTLY wrong with racism? Is it “bad”, because it saves the purity and beauty of your own race instead of mass producing mixed race individuals who are even unhappy about themselves? Race mixing promotion is one of the weapons used in order to destroy the White race which is being genocided at this very moment by the jewish power structure. You will find no White nation that has positive birth rates.

I can tell you what is really "wrong" with racism. The following.
1. If Europe would be racist, Lola Daviet and thousands of other White children would be still alive and would have a happy childhood. Instead, lots of those children are mutilated, raped, and cut into pieces. They did not even get the right to die in peace, because of so-called “racist” Europe which was toothless to wage wrath on those muslim sub-humans who did this to helpless children!

2. If Europe would really be racist, xianity, islam and other retarded, genocidal, barbaric, unhuman religions that abuse, rape, kill millions of people on the pretense of "religious freedom" would be destroyed. "Religious freedom" can not be tolerated in case this so-called "freedom" violates other principles of life and humanity we hold dear and as self-evident. SS would not get special treatment as a state religion probably, but this is fine. I think SS should support full and complete secularization, and it must be discovered by individuals and communities all by themselves, i.e., SS should be proved not through instilling fear in us, through force, but through self discovery and advancement as society. If SS would be pushed through fear and force, it would be perverted into the same retardism like xianity, islam, etc. SS should stay pure and direct us to experience our most beautiful and beloved Gods. And ourselves, of course as it is our need to get into Godhood.

3. Being racist does not mean hating other races. On the contrary, racism is about loving the race you belong to, the desire to improve even further and become a God eventually. Take the National Alliance established by William Luther Pierce decades ago for example. They are not SS, they promote Cosmotheism instead, but this Cosmotheism does not deny SS in any way. And they also talk about becoming Gods. And their organization was almost destroyed decades ago after WLP passed away, but it was saved. They are not explicitly SS, but they promote the ideas that we can agree upon.

As real nationalist do not hate other nations (hating other nations would contradict the idea of nationalism), same is with racism. Real racist loves his/her own race, and also sees value in other races. Myself, I know much more about human races than those who proudly call themselves "humanists". In reality, they deny not just White people, but also Negroes, Asians, and any other human race. In reality, these so-called "liberals" are genocidists weaponized to destroy the White race first, and then make Humanity lost completely. By destroying the White race, all other races on this planet would be unable to survive. Destruction of the White race is logically equivalent to the destruction of the whole Humanity.

4. If the majority of Whites would really be racists, then we would be very close to the Golden Age or we would be at it right now. Whites already possess both emotional and intellectual capacity to go towards Godhood if left without any negative interference. If the jews would be removed right now, in a week or so everything would start healing automatically. For other races it might be harder, but those races can learn from Whites as they did for ages. And in a couple of months, everyone would even forget the jews ever existed.

So yes, people here should be proud of being racists. It is a shame to pretend not to be racist. Racism is not about hatred. It is also not about supremacism. Racism is about your own identity. It is about loving your own identity, and the resolution to defend your own identity whatever the means and whatever the cost. It is about improving your identity and putting yourself and your community on the upward path in Life. Non racists deny the identity of themselves, their family, their own children. If the one denies the identity of his/her own children, this one is not worthy of being a father/mother!

Xians, muslims are non racists. This is why they are able to call themselves and each other sheeps/slaves. If you are proud White yourself, you will never call yourself a slave and other individuals of your race a sheep, a slave, etc. And you will never humiliate other races through generalization. However, without any substantial identity, the person will accept anything he/she is told to accept. This is why they are able to love their enemies as fake jew on a stick told to. But loving your enemies is the same as hating those who love you, who care about you.

Also, one needs not to confuse racism with supremacism. This confusion is the same logical fallacy as when confusing nationalism with chauvinism. These false confusions were introduced upon us by the jewish power structure, so we would deny our own identity and even would assume it is bad to have racial identity. In the West, it is already taught to White people they are bad just because they were born. Being White is now the new “original sin”. For the White man, this “original sin” is mostly irredeemable. For the White woman, it is possible to redeem herself by becoming a sex doll (i.e., “marrying”) for the jew, non-White sub-human that serves the jewish power structure.

To summarize, people should not be afraid of being called racists. We should be proud of it.
 
So they perhaps do have some form of control, by withholding information.






This does not answer my question. I do not question the effort and hard work required for this feat. What I mean is: can the gods even refuse someone becoming a god? can they decide to strip another being of their godhood status, or to block their path to godhead, simply due to whatever reason? For example, not believing in every single criteria presented here as "ethical"?
The ethics presented here are different from their ethics and what would be required of you to become a God, you would have to talk to the Gods themselves to learn what their deal breakers are.

In my humble opinion however the Gods don’t operate on negative morality, the hero’s of the past are said in the sagas to have become Gods by doing great things not from abstinence of bad deeds. But there are some hard coded laws but those are few like race mixing.
 
Funny how you go along with mentioning those things but completely miss out on the fact that this organization has some vaguely racist values.
Oh no, someone used the "rayziss" word. :ROFLMAO:

What, are you a libtard or something? Only libtards think this word has any sort of meaning or works for intimidating people.

he only reason to use it here is to compliment someone like "You're a racist" and the other person replies "Thanks, you too" because it's something positive, as logicalmind explained above.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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