Coming back redemption

[Satan's pilgrim80]

Hello fellow Satanists, I was a spiritual Satanist some years ago I studied most of the contents from the main site, made the dedication signed in blood even, started the 40 day meditation program however halfway trough the program my mind just got flooded with doubt is this real am I in the right path, more and more doubts then some people were making articles about Jos being a lie plagiarism no more than a money making scheme by Maxine, so back then I quit gave up, done a ritual of my own reversing the dedication and that was that, however years have come and gone and I feel I'm still blessed my life goes better than ever despite the chaos of late I feel gifted protected but plagued with thoughts of remorse guilt and unworthiness did I make the wrong decision am I just a betrayer a fool, it sucks to be the prodigal son returning home, but I couldn't take it anymore this feeling of guilt and unworthiness,I know I have no right to be asking anything but what should I do am I lost,forever estranged in this place an outsider betrayer, thank you anyway sorry to take your time.

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

One can only be deluded with these ideas, as they don't coincide with any reality. Money making? Who asked you for any money or anyone else? And what do you think this is? The striking majority of people in this side are beaten individuals who come to Satan desperate for a quick buck to sell their soul for the price of a donut.

The thing is as you probably know, you did the dedication like many other do, and you got in a sense blessed materially. Some people don't return the favor, and this creates guilt in someone for obvious reasons. In the back of your mind you may still know you should advance spiritually.

Eventually also one does not have any special perks such as spiritual ability or protection. And these states don't last forever unless one is really cautious. In this case, returning and meditating is the only way to move past chaos and keep your things going, because fate can be cruel in these situations.

 

[Satan's pilgrim80]

One can only be deluded with these ideas, as they don't coincide with any reality. Money making? Who asked you for any money or anyone else? And what do you think this is? The striking majority of people in this side are beaten individuals who come to Satan desperate for a quick buck to sell their soul for the price of a donut.

The thing is as you probably know, you did the dedication like many other do, and you got in a sense blessed materially. Some people don't return the favor, and this creates guilt in someone for obvious reasons. In the back of your mind you may still know you should advance spiritually.

Eventually also one does not have any special perks such as spiritual ability or protection. And these states don't last forever unless one is really cautious. In this case, returning and meditating is the only way to move past chaos and keep your things going, because fate can be cruel in these situations.

thank you for answering, I'm glad to see you are still around cobra , in the back of my mind I keep feeling a void an emptyness I ignored it for so long but I kept feeling drawn to the Jos, how do I get to face him? I'm ashamed enough as it is I guess redemption is a bit##, I'm not expecting easy fixes after what I have done, just some guiding light I'll take responsibility bear the burden of redemption.

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

One can only be deluded with these ideas, as they don't coincide with any reality. Money making? Who asked you for any money or anyone else? And what do you think this is? The striking majority of people in this side are beaten individuals who come to Satan desperate for a quick buck to sell their soul for the price of a donut.

The thing is as you probably know, you did the dedication like many other do, and you got in a sense blessed materially. Some people don't return the favor, and this creates guilt in someone for obvious reasons. In the back of your mind you may still know you should advance spiritually.

Eventually also one does not have any special perks such as spiritual ability or protection. And these states don't last forever unless one is really cautious. In this case, returning and meditating is the only way to move past chaos and keep your things going, because fate can be cruel in these situations.

thank you for answering, I'm glad to see you are still around cobra , in the back of my mind I keep feeling a void an emptyness I ignored it for so long but I kept feeling drawn to the Jos, how do I get to face him? I'm ashamed enough as it is I guess redemption is a bit##, I'm not expecting easy fixes after what I have done, just some guiding light I'll take responsibility bear the burden of redemption.

It's not about redemption from your sins it's that you've wrong yourself mostly that's all.

You do this by meditating and stating your situation in a genuine way. No words or excuses here, just doing the right thing will do. And staying at it.

Wish you a lot of luck.

 

[Satan's pilgrim80]

One can only be deluded with these ideas, as they don't coincide with any reality. Money making? Who asked you for any money or anyone else? And what do you think this is? The striking majority of people in this side are beaten individuals who come to Satan desperate for a quick buck to sell their soul for the price of a donut.

The thing is as you probably know, you did the dedication like many other do, and you got in a sense blessed materially. Some people don't return the favor, and this creates guilt in someone for obvious reasons. In the back of your mind you may still know you should advance spiritually.

Eventually also one does not have any special perks such as spiritual ability or protection. And these states don't last forever unless one is really cautious. In this case, returning and meditating is the only way to move past chaos and keep your things going, because fate can be cruel in these situations.

thank you for answering, I'm glad to see you are still around cobra , in the back of my mind I keep feeling a void an emptyness I ignored it for so long but I kept feeling drawn to the Jos, how do I get to face him? I'm ashamed enough as it is I guess redemption is a bit##, I'm not expecting easy fixes after what I have done, just some guiding light I'll take responsibility bear the burden of redemption.

It's not about redemption from your sins it's that you've wrong yourself mostly that's all.

You do this by meditating and stating your situation in a genuine way. No words or excuses here, just doing the right thing will do. And staying at it.

Wish you a lot of luck.

Thank you,when I say redemption I'm not referring to the Christian concept of sin, just redemption for a mistake accepting and moving forowards making up for it fixing what I have wronged,though I left the Jos I allways maintained my view of Christianity I despise everything judeo Christian

 

[darkmonkey666]

Hello fellow Satanists, I was a spiritual Satanist some years ago I studied most of the contents from the main site, made the dedication signed in blood even, started the 40 day meditation program however halfway trough the program my mind just got flooded with doubt is this real am I in the right path, more and more doubts then some people were making articles about Jos being a lie plagiarism no more than a money making scheme by Maxine, so back then I quit gave up, done a ritual of my own reversing the dedication and that was that, however years have come and gone and I feel I'm still blessed my life goes better than ever despite the chaos of late I feel gifted protected but plagued with thoughts of remorse guilt and unworthiness did I make the wrong decision am I just a betrayer a fool, it sucks to be the prodigal son returning home, but I couldn't take it anymore this feeling of guilt and unworthiness,I know I have no right to be asking anything but what should I do am I lost,forever estranged in this place an outsider betrayer, thank you anyway sorry to take your time.

Welcome back be sure to work on the rtrs and Tetragrammaton thing (in my signature is a link to one of the online versions of it) this should help get enemy energy out of you. Do it often then cleanse this helps. Helpful also is maybe an Ansuz or munka working to remove enemy programming. Something like I am completely and totally free of all connections and influences of the enemies of Satan right now. You can also do that 9 times or more in each chakra daily for awhile. Ansuz a certain number of times then affirmation "my ___ chakra is completely and totally free of all connections and influences of the enemies of Satan right now" in each chakra.

It's good you didn't think you could never come back. The enemy put that in my head. I was dumb at about 16 years old my dad was a pastor he put a lot of fear in my head about this Satanism thing. I did a reverse ritual and burned a Satanic bible. I didn't really want to go back to xtianity so I chose new age things my dad told me I was on the right path and Jewsus was speaking to me as it's better to follow the angels and maybe someday I would become a regular xtian etc. I came back to Satanism later and since I wasn't that open didn't experience a lot but I tried. I became convinced the Gods abandon me for ever and maybe I was a Jew. This is what lead to the incident of leaving for a bit but it was really scary cause I knew Satan was the good side and didn't want to be on the enemy side.
I was in great fear of what the enemy was going to do. This wasted a few years of my life being in constant fear but I realized Satan did not abandon me etc the Gods saw my heart. I came back at the time the final rtr was posted the same day. I always find that interesting the Day I joined the forums and wrote the first post asking for help that was posted. So I saw that as a sign. Those were some of the things I did to get out of enemy programming it may be a long path if it was really pushed into you. That was the cause of most that happened. But if you work hard someday you will find peace from this and actually be happy.

I think you are ok if I am. I mean I actually had experiences with the gods so I know that I am fine you probably are too. It is a result of enemy programming. Move on and work hard on spiritual warfare for our cause work hard to advance and you will be rewarded for that not hounded over what you did. I created one of the videos unfortunately still as far as I know used on one of those sites. That was not even my intention when creating it. I probably should have asked for help on youtube then as I was scared to go on the forums instead of doing that.

You are fine if I am. So move on and do what's right. Work for our cause and advance and your good.

 

[Satan's pilgrim80]

Hello fellow Satanists, I was a spiritual Satanist some years ago I studied most of the contents from the main site, made the dedication signed in blood even, started the 40 day meditation program however halfway trough the program my mind just got flooded with doubt is this real am I in the right path, more and more doubts then some people were making articles about Jos being a lie plagiarism no more than a money making scheme by Maxine, so back then I quit gave up, done a ritual of my own reversing the dedication and that was that, however years have come and gone and I feel I'm still blessed my life goes better than ever despite the chaos of late I feel gifted protected but plagued with thoughts of remorse guilt and unworthiness did I make the wrong decision am I just a betrayer a fool, it sucks to be the prodigal son returning home, but I couldn't take it anymore this feeling of guilt and unworthiness,I know I have no right to be asking anything but what should I do am I lost,forever estranged in this place an outsider betrayer, thank you anyway sorry to take your time.

Welcome back be sure to work on the rtrs and Tetragrammaton thing (in my signature is a link to one of the online versions of it) this should help get enemy energy out of you. Do it often then cleanse this helps. Helpful also is maybe an Ansuz or munka working to remove enemy programming. Something like I am completely and totally free of all connections and influences of the enemies of Satan right now. You can also do that 9 times or more in each chakra daily for awhile. Ansuz a certain number of times then affirmation "my ___ chakra is completely and totally free of all connections and influences of the enemies of Satan right now" in each chakra.

It's good you didn't think you could never come back. The enemy put that in my head. I was dumb at about 16 years old my dad was a pastor he put a lot of fear in my head about this Satanism thing. I did a reverse ritual and burned a Satanic bible. I didn't really want to go back to xtianity so I chose new age things my dad told me I was on the right path and Jewsus was speaking to me as it's better to follow the angels and maybe someday I would become a regular xtian etc. I came back to Satanism later and since I wasn't that open didn't experience a lot but I tried. I became convinced the Gods abandon me for ever and maybe I was a Jew. This is what lead to the incident of leaving for a bit but it was really scary cause I knew Satan was the good side and didn't want to be on the enemy side.
I was in great fear of what the enemy was going to do. This wasted a few years of my life being in constant fear but I realized Satan did not abandon me etc the Gods saw my heart. I came back at the time the final rtr was posted the same day. I always find that interesting the Day I joined the forums and wrote the first post asking for help that was posted. So I saw that as a sign. Those were some of the things I did to get out of enemy programming it may be a long path if it was really pushed into you. That was the cause of most that happened. But if you work hard someday you will find peace from this and actually be happy.

I think you are ok if I am. I mean I actually had experiences with the gods so I know that I am fine you probably are too. It is a result of enemy programming. Move on and work hard on spiritual warfare for our cause work hard to advance and you will be rewarded for that not hounded over what you did. I created one of the videos unfortunately still as far as I know used on one of those sites. That was not even my intention when creating it. I probably should have asked for help on youtube then as I was scared to go on the forums instead of doing that.

You are fine if I am. So move on and do what's right. Work for our cause and advance and your good.

greetings, thanks for the answer, I never got to perform the rtrs, is it complicated? How mutch time does if take, between work and caring for my children somedays I have few alone time to my own, what is (Ansuz or munka) forgive me asking.

 

[Satan's pilgrim80]

One can only be deluded with these ideas, as they don't coincide with any reality. Money making? Who asked you for any money or anyone else? And what do you think this is? The striking majority of people in this side are beaten individuals who come to Satan desperate for a quick buck to sell their soul for the price of a donut.

The thing is as you probably know, you did the dedication like many other do, and you got in a sense blessed materially. Some people don't return the favor, and this creates guilt in someone for obvious reasons. In the back of your mind you may still know you should advance spiritually.

Eventually also one does not have any special perks such as spiritual ability or protection. And these states don't last forever unless one is really cautious. In this case, returning and meditating is the only way to move past chaos and keep your things going, because fate can be cruel in these situations.

What is your opinion on this? Specially the first answer in this link

Thank you.

https://www.quora.com/What-opinions-do-Satanists-have-towards-the-Joy-of-Satan

 

[darkmonkey666]

Hello fellow Satanists, I was a spiritual Satanist some years ago I studied most of the contents from the main site, made the dedication signed in blood even, started the 40 day meditation program however halfway trough the program my mind just got flooded with doubt is this real am I in the right path, more and more doubts then some people were making articles about Jos being a lie plagiarism no more than a money making scheme by Maxine, so back then I quit gave up, done a ritual of my own reversing the dedication and that was that, however years have come and gone and I feel I'm still blessed my life goes better than ever despite the chaos of late I feel gifted protected but plagued with thoughts of remorse guilt and unworthiness did I make the wrong decision am I just a betrayer a fool, it sucks to be the prodigal son returning home, but I couldn't take it anymore this feeling of guilt and unworthiness,I know I have no right to be asking anything but what should I do am I lost,forever estranged in this place an outsider betrayer, thank you anyway sorry to take your time.

Welcome back be sure to work on the rtrs and Tetragrammaton thing (in my signature is a link to one of the online versions of it) this should help get enemy energy out of you. Do it often then cleanse this helps. Helpful also is maybe an Ansuz or munka working to remove enemy programming. Something like I am completely and totally free of all connections and influences of the enemies of Satan right now. You can also do that 9 times or more in each chakra daily for awhile. Ansuz a certain number of times then affirmation "my ___ chakra is completely and totally free of all connections and influences of the enemies of Satan right now" in each chakra.

It's good you didn't think you could never come back. The enemy put that in my head. I was dumb at about 16 years old my dad was a pastor he put a lot of fear in my head about this Satanism thing. I did a reverse ritual and burned a Satanic bible. I didn't really want to go back to xtianity so I chose new age things my dad told me I was on the right path and Jewsus was speaking to me as it's better to follow the angels and maybe someday I would become a regular xtian etc. I came back to Satanism later and since I wasn't that open didn't experience a lot but I tried. I became convinced the Gods abandon me for ever and maybe I was a Jew. This is what lead to the incident of leaving for a bit but it was really scary cause I knew Satan was the good side and didn't want to be on the enemy side.
I was in great fear of what the enemy was going to do. This wasted a few years of my life being in constant fear but I realized Satan did not abandon me etc the Gods saw my heart. I came back at the time the final rtr was posted the same day. I always find that interesting the Day I joined the forums and wrote the first post asking for help that was posted. So I saw that as a sign. Those were some of the things I did to get out of enemy programming it may be a long path if it was really pushed into you. That was the cause of most that happened. But if you work hard someday you will find peace from this and actually be happy.

I think you are ok if I am. I mean I actually had experiences with the gods so I know that I am fine you probably are too. It is a result of enemy programming. Move on and work hard on spiritual warfare for our cause work hard to advance and you will be rewarded for that not hounded over what you did. I created one of the videos unfortunately still as far as I know used on one of those sites. That was not even my intention when creating it. I probably should have asked for help on youtube then as I was scared to go on the forums instead of doing that.

You are fine if I am. So move on and do what's right. Work for our cause and advance and your good.

greetings, thanks for the answer, I never got to perform the rtrs, is it complicated? How mutch time does if take, between work and caring for my children somedays I have few alone time to my own, what is (Ansuz or munka) forgive me asking.

You should do the rtr and Tetragrammaton thing daily if you can it's not complicated. See the link in my signature also evilgoy.com has the rtr alone on it in various web programs. Anyways do it more when you have more time. Ansuz is a rune. https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Odin.html that is the page on runes. Munka is a sanskrit word for freeing the soul pronounced moun-yah-kah

 

[Gearshift]

What is your opinion on this? Specially the first answer in this link

Thank you.

https://www.quora.com/What-opinions-do-Satanists-have-towards-the-Joy-of-Satan

I really don't see what they are trying to give answer. If anything they just state "JoS is bad, NS is bad, people are brainwashed".

They give the whole (((Neo-Nazi))) spin on it. I'm not sure what people's problem with National Socialism is. I CAN understand if someone said "Neo-Nazi is classified as some sort of hollywood-esque kosher gateway towards a destructive lifestyle". But those people just lump us as "Neo-Nazi" even if there is blatant information stating we are towards the original political system. With that said just recently [@member: Jack(a.k.a Jack the good guy)] replied to me stating we "technically" aren't O.G. NS, because the system in which they operated would be far different than the liberal aspect found among the U.S. In other other words he was stating it would feel alien to people particularly American members.

Anyways there's another reply someone mentioned that we are a "cult". Again technically [yes] we ARE by and by a cult. By all definitions of it. In fact one person on your quora links the ()(Scientologists)()(jews/shabbos/Gentiles) as an NS organization.

Michael Young: Writer, World-builder, D&D Player, Former Necromancer

So, they are basically like Scientologists who are also Neo-Nazis. It’s not an opinion, its a fact, they all genuinely believe that crap.

Since when are Scientologists, Neo-Nazis, IF they believe in some reptilian overload and concentrate wealth from elites and others as some sort of tax deduction. If anything Scientology shows a dangerous president creating an entire cult just to amass wealth particularly from rich people. I would not be surprised if it's just another cult used for tax purposes.

Sara Stanojevic: lives in Serbia

They also believe in aliens. ALIENS!!! I mean, satanism isn't History channel. As far as I know, Satan and all his demons are personifications of collective unconscious. If you have certain feeling, let's say envy, you may try to personify it. That's how we got Leviathan. Also, by some Satanists, Satan is actually the Sun. Sun was the highest pagan god and since Jewish religion really wanted to destroy paganism, they've transformed the Sun into black Sun who was evil. That Sun is actually your spiritual Sun, your guardian and your power of mind. That is Satan, your intelligence, feelings and desires. If you awaken Him, you will be able to understand yourself and the world better. He is inside you not on some random planet. That's beyond ridiculous. I bet even real ET would laugh at them.

This is the perfect example of Laveyanism might as well call yourself an atheist at this point. This sounds delusional and exposes a conspiracy by people to deny aliens.

IF anything the fact she states "History channel" is funny so "Aliens" only come from History Channel? What about the countless alien activities found among history itself?

Again begs the question if this person even studies history. It also exposes a Weltanscaang(World-View) of deny aliens. Again WHY deny aliens if aliens exists the Government seems to think so. Do you really think the Government is really happy with aliens zipping across the radar screen in crafts far out in comparison to our own aircrafts?

Sara Stanojevic: lives in Serbia:

They are Néo-nazi. I mean, WHY?! They believe that Satan is ultimate good, so why then worship ultimate evil? If Satan is Ea, the Messopotamian god, why would he want to destroy humanity? Satan isn't Nazi mostly because he doesn't want people to kill each other. No matter which culture you belong to it was Satan who gave you the wisdom and humanity through the “first sin” or by giving you ability to see the difference between good and evil. He created humanity and God is the ultimate Nazi (just read the Old testament. IF YOU DARE!!!)

Oh great for fuck sake here comes the water works. WHY?!, the "ultimate evil". SO Nazis are the ultimate evil in what way?

They killed six gorrillians or so they say. There's also overtones of a xtian person who believes the same bullshit jews believe in and the same kosher propaganda that "muh flood".

I really am just quoting this person for the funnies. Just reading it shows this person is too programmed with the enemy. Since when do "Nazis" want to kill each other.

Again this person didn't study National Socialism nor the JoS probably just didn't know how to use their brain.

Someone else goes into donations mentioning Andrea and her husband make 5,000USD monthly, no idea whereby they got that information, I doubt Maxine communicates through some voice chat system so how did they get that information?

Anyways these are cheap arguments from people who don't [study]. IF they studied they would understand.

It seems many of these arguments are based on old information that Hungarian Anti-JoS website. Again Hungarian funny Hungary was a former Axis power. I wonder whom it was that made the website if they liked being under (((Soviet))) occupation. Obviously this person or people whom are Hungarian don't study any history whatsoever. And funny enough is it possible that they are a Soros organization? Hungary WAS the birthplace of Gregory Schwartz(i.e. George Soros).

Anyways their cheap arguments don't make sense. Maybe they aren't hardcore or they don't study or aren't happy with NS. NS isn't the only and ultimate system as Aristotle points to other systems as well. BUT in current kosher times NS is about the only counter-movement against the counter-culture(marxists).

I find it funny IF National Socialism is the diametric opposition of communism. Why not embrace National Socialism and the opposite of xtianty a kosher system, Spiritual Satanism.

I think these people like LARP'ing as xtians. They want feel good jesus as their lawd and savior and I'm going not for me.

Well what can I say NS and SS is not for everyone. Either way like HP.Cobra stated in reply to a person "You can't force them to like or force morals on someone, only through self-education or a wakeup call do they want to do things".

These people came, they collapsed, they had issues. And I can understand why as even I don't fully understand National Socialism it's all one huge puzzle broken apart into thousands of small little pieces and the full picture is gone.

But non-the less these people aren't for Hitler, NS, SS or any other Pagan or outlet of expression. At the end of the day they are xtians plain and simple. They are people who can't see the forest nor the trees.

I can sympathize with them in the sense that I question my own reality. But ultimately return to the same thing stick with NS/SS.

Either way I've built my own Weltanschaang as NS and SS. What is wrong with that?

 

[Satan's pilgrim80]

What is your opinion on this? Specially the first answer in this link

Thank you.

https://www.quora.com/What-opinions-do-Satanists-have-towards-the-Joy-of-Satan

I really don't see what they are trying to give answer. If anything they just state "JoS is bad, NS is bad, people are brainwashed".

They give the whole (((Neo-Nazi))) spin on it. I'm not sure what people's problem with National Socialism is. I CAN understand if someone said "Neo-Nazi is classified as some sort of hollywood-esque kosher gateway towards a destructive lifestyle". But those people just lump us as "Neo-Nazi" even if there is blatant information stating we are towards the original political system. With that said just recently [@member: Jack(a.k.a Jack the good guy)] replied to me stating we "technically" aren't O.G. NS, because the system in which they operated would be far different than the liberal aspect found among the U.S. In other other words he was stating it would feel alien to people particularly American members.

Anyways there's another reply someone mentioned that we are a "cult". Again technically [yes] we ARE by and by a cult. By all definitions of it. In fact one person on your quora links the ()(Scientologists)()(jews/shabbos/Gentiles) as an NS organization.

Michael Young: Writer, World-builder, D&D Player, Former Necromancer

So, they are basically like Scientologists who are also Neo-Nazis. It’s not an opinion, its a fact, they all genuinely believe that crap.

Since when are Scientologists, Neo-Nazis, IF they believe in some reptilian overload and concentrate wealth from elites and others as some sort of tax deduction. If anything Scientology shows a dangerous president creating an entire cult just to amass wealth particularly from rich people. I would not be surprised if it's just another cult used for tax purposes.

Sara Stanojevic: lives in Serbia

They also believe in aliens. ALIENS!!! I mean, satanism isn't History channel. As far as I know, Satan and all his demons are personifications of collective unconscious. If you have certain feeling, let's say envy, you may try to personify it. That's how we got Leviathan. Also, by some Satanists, Satan is actually the Sun. Sun was the highest pagan god and since Jewish religion really wanted to destroy paganism, they've transformed the Sun into black Sun who was evil. That Sun is actually your spiritual Sun, your guardian and your power of mind. That is Satan, your intelligence, feelings and desires. If you awaken Him, you will be able to understand yourself and the world better. He is inside you not on some random planet. That's beyond ridiculous. I bet even real ET would laugh at them.

This is the perfect example of Laveyanism might as well call yourself an atheist at this point. This sounds delusional and exposes a conspiracy by people to deny aliens.

IF anything the fact she states "History channel" is funny so "Aliens" only come from History Channel? What about the countless alien activities found among history itself?

Again begs the question if this person even studies history. It also exposes a Weltanscaang(World-View) of deny aliens. Again WHY deny aliens if aliens exists the Government seems to think so. Do you really think the Government is really happy with aliens zipping across the radar screen in crafts far out in comparison to our own aircrafts?

Sara Stanojevic: lives in Serbia:

They are Néo-nazi. I mean, WHY?! They believe that Satan is ultimate good, so why then worship ultimate evil? If Satan is Ea, the Messopotamian god, why would he want to destroy humanity? Satan isn't Nazi mostly because he doesn't want people to kill each other. No matter which culture you belong to it was Satan who gave you the wisdom and humanity through the “first sin” or by giving you ability to see the difference between good and evil. He created humanity and God is the ultimate Nazi (just read the Old testament. IF YOU DARE!!!)

Oh great for fuck sake here comes the water works. WHY?!, the "ultimate evil". SO Nazis are the ultimate evil in what way?

They killed six gorrillians or so they say. There's also overtones of a xtian person who believes the same bullshit jews believe in and the same kosher propaganda that "muh flood".

I really am just quoting this person for the funnies. Just reading it shows this person is too programmed with the enemy. Since when do "Nazis" want to kill each other.

Again this person didn't study National Socialism nor the JoS probably just didn't know how to use their brain.

Someone else goes into donations mentioning Andrea and her husband make 5,000USD monthly, no idea whereby they got that information, I doubt Maxine communicates through some voice chat system so how did they get that information?

Anyways these are cheap arguments from people who don't [study]. IF they studied they would understand.

It seems many of these arguments are based on old information that Hungarian Anti-JoS website. Again Hungarian funny Hungary was a former Axis power. I wonder whom it was that made the website if they liked being under (((Soviet))) occupation. Obviously this person or people whom are Hungarian don't study any history whatsoever. And funny enough is it possible that they are a Soros organization? Hungary WAS the birthplace of Gregory Schwartz(i.e. George Soros).

Anyways their cheap arguments don't make sense. Maybe they aren't hardcore or they don't study or aren't happy with NS. NS isn't the only and ultimate system as Aristotle points to other systems as well. BUT in current kosher times NS is about the only counter-movement against the counter-culture(marxists).

I find it funny IF National Socialism is the diametric opposition of communism. Why not embrace National Socialism and the opposite of xtianty a kosher system, Spiritual Satanism.

I think these people like LARP'ing as xtians. They want feel good jesus as their lawd and savior and I'm going not for me.

Well what can I say NS and SS is not for everyone. Either way like HP.Cobra stated in reply to a person "You can't force them to like or force morals on someone, only through self-education or a wakeup call do they want to do things".

These people came, they collapsed, they had issues. And I can understand why as even I don't fully understand National Socialism it's all one huge puzzle broken apart into thousands of small little pieces and the full picture is gone.

But non-the less these people aren't for Hitler, NS, SS or any other Pagan or outlet of expression. At the end of the day they are xtians plain and simple. They are people who can't see the forest nor the trees.

I can sympathize with them in the sense that I question my own reality. But ultimately return to the same thing stick with NS/SS.

Either way I've built my own Weltanschaang as NS and SS. What is wrong with that?

thank you for the well crafted answer, you seem very knowledgeable, I guess I need to study a lot more, going to read the entire contents from the site again, thank you.

 

[Satan's pilgrim80]

What is your opinion on this? Specially the first answer in this link

Thank you.

https://www.quora.com/What-opinions-do-Satanists-have-towards-the-Joy-of-Satan

I really don't see what they are trying to give answer. If anything they just state "JoS is bad, NS is bad, people are brainwashed".

They give the whole (((Neo-Nazi))) spin on it. I'm not sure what people's problem with National Socialism is. I CAN understand if someone said "Neo-Nazi is classified as some sort of hollywood-esque kosher gateway towards a destructive lifestyle". But those people just lump us as "Neo-Nazi" even if there is blatant information stating we are towards the original political system. With that said just recently [@member: Jack(a.k.a Jack the good guy)] replied to me stating we "technically" aren't O.G. NS, because the system in which they operated would be far different than the liberal aspect found among the U.S. In other other words he was stating it would feel alien to people particularly American members.

Anyways there's another reply someone mentioned that we are a "cult". Again technically [yes] we ARE by and by a cult. By all definitions of it. In fact one person on your quora links the ()(Scientologists)()(jews/shabbos/Gentiles) as an NS organization.

Michael Young: Writer, World-builder, D&D Player, Former Necromancer

So, they are basically like Scientologists who are also Neo-Nazis. It’s not an opinion, its a fact, they all genuinely believe that crap.

Since when are Scientologists, Neo-Nazis, IF they believe in some reptilian overload and concentrate wealth from elites and others as some sort of tax deduction. If anything Scientology shows a dangerous president creating an entire cult just to amass wealth particularly from rich people. I would not be surprised if it's just another cult used for tax purposes.

Sara Stanojevic: lives in Serbia

They also believe in aliens. ALIENS!!! I mean, satanism isn't History channel. As far as I know, Satan and all his demons are personifications of collective unconscious. If you have certain feeling, let's say envy, you may try to personify it. That's how we got Leviathan. Also, by some Satanists, Satan is actually the Sun. Sun was the highest pagan god and since Jewish religion really wanted to destroy paganism, they've transformed the Sun into black Sun who was evil. That Sun is actually your spiritual Sun, your guardian and your power of mind. That is Satan, your intelligence, feelings and desires. If you awaken Him, you will be able to understand yourself and the world better. He is inside you not on some random planet. That's beyond ridiculous. I bet even real ET would laugh at them.

This is the perfect example of Laveyanism might as well call yourself an atheist at this point. This sounds delusional and exposes a conspiracy by people to deny aliens.

IF anything the fact she states "History channel" is funny so "Aliens" only come from History Channel? What about the countless alien activities found among history itself?

Again begs the question if this person even studies history. It also exposes a Weltanscaang(World-View) of deny aliens. Again WHY deny aliens if aliens exists the Government seems to think so. Do you really think the Government is really happy with aliens zipping across the radar screen in crafts far out in comparison to our own aircrafts?

Sara Stanojevic: lives in Serbia:

They are Néo-nazi. I mean, WHY?! They believe that Satan is ultimate good, so why then worship ultimate evil? If Satan is Ea, the Messopotamian god, why would he want to destroy humanity? Satan isn't Nazi mostly because he doesn't want people to kill each other. No matter which culture you belong to it was Satan who gave you the wisdom and humanity through the “first sin” or by giving you ability to see the difference between good and evil. He created humanity and God is the ultimate Nazi (just read the Old testament. IF YOU DARE!!!)

Oh great for fuck sake here comes the water works. WHY?!, the "ultimate evil". SO Nazis are the ultimate evil in what way?

They killed six gorrillians or so they say. There's also overtones of a xtian person who believes the same bullshit jews believe in and the same kosher propaganda that "muh flood".

I really am just quoting this person for the funnies. Just reading it shows this person is too programmed with the enemy. Since when do "Nazis" want to kill each other.

Again this person didn't study National Socialism nor the JoS probably just didn't know how to use their brain.

Someone else goes into donations mentioning Andrea and her husband make 5,000USD monthly, no idea whereby they got that information, I doubt Maxine communicates through some voice chat system so how did they get that information?

Anyways these are cheap arguments from people who don't [study]. IF they studied they would understand.

It seems many of these arguments are based on old information that Hungarian Anti-JoS website. Again Hungarian funny Hungary was a former Axis power. I wonder whom it was that made the website if they liked being under (((Soviet))) occupation. Obviously this person or people whom are Hungarian don't study any history whatsoever. And funny enough is it possible that they are a Soros organization? Hungary WAS the birthplace of Gregory Schwartz(i.e. George Soros).

Anyways their cheap arguments don't make sense. Maybe they aren't hardcore or they don't study or aren't happy with NS. NS isn't the only and ultimate system as Aristotle points to other systems as well. BUT in current kosher times NS is about the only counter-movement against the counter-culture(marxists).

I find it funny IF National Socialism is the diametric opposition of communism. Why not embrace National Socialism and the opposite of xtianty a kosher system, Spiritual Satanism.

I think these people like LARP'ing as xtians. They want feel good jesus as their lawd and savior and I'm going not for me.

Well what can I say NS and SS is not for everyone. Either way like HP.Cobra stated in reply to a person "You can't force them to like or force morals on someone, only through self-education or a wakeup call do they want to do things".

These people came, they collapsed, they had issues. And I can understand why as even I don't fully understand National Socialism it's all one huge puzzle broken apart into thousands of small little pieces and the full picture is gone.

But non-the less these people aren't for Hitler, NS, SS or any other Pagan or outlet of expression. At the end of the day they are xtians plain and simple. They are people who can't see the forest nor the trees.

I can sympathize with them in the sense that I question my own reality. But ultimately return to the same thing stick with NS/SS.

Either way I've built my own Weltanschaang as NS and SS. What is wrong with that?

I also foi d these

https://exposingthejoyofsatan.wordpress.com/author/hazarhunszekereserika/

https://hungariancultistnazis.wordpress.com/2014/08/07/exposing-the-joy-of-satan-website-2008/

What do you think? What can I do about it?
How does one defend against that? Try to argue with them? Take down their website somehow?

 

[darkmonkey666]

One can only be deluded with these ideas, as they don't coincide with any reality. Money making? Who asked you for any money or anyone else? And what do you think this is? The striking majority of people in this side are beaten individuals who come to Satan desperate for a quick buck to sell their soul for the price of a donut.

The thing is as you probably know, you did the dedication like many other do, and you got in a sense blessed materially. Some people don't return the favor, and this creates guilt in someone for obvious reasons. In the back of your mind you may still know you should advance spiritually.

Eventually also one does not have any special perks such as spiritual ability or protection. And these states don't last forever unless one is really cautious. In this case, returning and meditating is the only way to move past chaos and keep your things going, because fate can be cruel in these situations.

What is your opinion on this? Specially the first answer in this link

Thank you.

https://www.quora.com/What-opinions-do-Satanists-have-towards-the-Joy-of-Satan

Ok I looked over this. Not really good arguments. Ok so I know the JOS used stuff from various sources cited whenever quotes were taken from them from the beginning as well as personal experiences and knowledge obviously from various places. This isn't really plagiarism. There also were others who had similar ideas that is not plagiarism.
Ok so some pastor doing a sermon where they quote from various things in that case they don't even cite anything they quote from. Also all ideas in sermons were written about before and sometimes pastors take entire other pastors sermons and read them claiming them as their own. These people using the same argument should call that plagiarism but they don't and wouldn't even care.
So argument moot. You couldn't even write about anything at all if you used their standards cause someone or something would have been said on some of it by someone else before.

Next up is the argument on Nazism it is Satanic and some people here remember being there in past lives even. Gear 88 did good in talking about that.

The stuff about clifford and Andrea Herrington could be true in the name of Maxine and her husband I don't know. However whenever this is presented it is presented in a way of standing or making fun of the people. I maybe doubt this is even the same people because I saw a video one time of Clifford Herrington preaching something defending xtians and saying America should be white and xtian. I kind of doubt this for that reason.
But even if they are the same people it's obviously mostly slander and untruth. I even saw someone posting addresses of these people personal info etc in response to some online warfare thing I did once (I have a screenshot of this in case anyone would want it and I am pretty sure I know which user posted that even though it's annon) I know for a fact Maxine is privacy conscious I am not sure we are these are the same people or not. But if they are then it's obvious a lot of other stuff is made up.

These are mostly people who are xtian or materialist completly (atheist) in spirit. They seem to want to believe the xtian things about Satan or believe he doesn't exist but use his name anyways.

No one really presented yet any good arguments against the Joy of Satan other than the real exposing Joy of Satan on youtube in which case he admits a lot of what we say is true and the Jews are enemy but thinks our Gods are not on the side of humanity either. This is the only thing I ever saw that may actually cause confusion in some people and even gets close to being a good argument. However this can be refuted too. The person used drugs when he was dedicated didn't really do protection seriously expected the Gods to do everything for him. The Gods have done many good things for people that are sincere and our rtrs are helping as anyone who is open knows. So these points are mute. It would only confuse someone new to intermediate maybe. All of this can be refuted so really there are no good arguments against us. It is good to be aware of what others say and critically think. However you can't let doubt take hold and lose faith totally especially not based on stuff like that. All those arguments were written on a site run by Jews and it's so poorly written in arguments that even the guy I mentioned on youtube thinks it was fake and made to bring more people here (not true but still this proves my point these are not good arguments anyone with any level of intelligence is cringing at this if they actually even read some of the JOS site even if they don't believe what the JOS says.)

 

[Wayofthegods]

Hello fellow Satanists, I was a spiritual Satanist some years ago I studied most of the contents from the main site, made the dedication signed in blood even, started the 40 day meditation program however halfway trough the program my mind just got flooded with doubt is this real am I in the right path, more and more doubts then some people were making articles about Jos being a lie plagiarism no more than a money making scheme by Maxine, so back then I quit gave up, done a ritual of my own reversing the dedication and that was that, however years have come and gone and I feel I'm still blessed my life goes better than ever despite the chaos of late I feel gifted protected but plagued with thoughts of remorse guilt and unworthiness did I make the wrong decision am I just a betrayer a fool, it sucks to be the prodigal son returning home, but I couldn't take it anymore this feeling of guilt and unworthiness,I know I have no right to be asking anything but what should I do am I lost,forever estranged in this place an outsider betrayer, thank you anyway sorry to take your time.

In one sense, there is personal responsibility. However at the same time, we have to look at this reasonably. The enemy had massive curses in place, anyone who stuck out, they cursed directly to no end. The enemy is advanced at breaking the mind. Suddenly we win out, and destroy these curses, and many come back to us, as if coming out from under a spell.

Well that's what it was. This is war, and people need to not beat themselves up so much. As they work to cause this. They insert thoughts, and plaque guilt about them. Another is the jew attack, where long term members even, still feel a nagging attempt to make them feel this way.

But ofcourse, what better way to take you out quick? So dont sit and beat yourself up. Instead do standard Rituals and Connect to Father Satan. Do the Final RTR.