Blood-drinking rats

[Stormblood]

https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Energy_Ripping.html

 

[Yagami Light]

Social skills are important for this, as I said to Stormblood in another reply, people must be open to you. This is done by forming a bond with them, getting them to like you and see you as a friend etc.

This is an extremely late reply but dude...
First of all, there is no need for you to explain how to do this, as it is already posted in the magick section on JoS: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Energy_Ripping.html

Secondly, your above statement sounds extremely disturbing if it's about random strangers... Unless you're talking about vile people (regardless if they're Gentile or not - though I think jewish energy can not be... 'cleared'... I think not... so one would most likely always suck the energies of another Gentile).
But, if you just meet a random person, who is not an SS, and who is spiritually closed off... I mean, unless you saw that this person had zerooo potential of being an SS, or of realizing the truth about Satan (and then spreading that message to others as well)... Then I guess okay, although... Although it still seems so sickening in my mind.

It's not the act of sucking another person's energies that seems sickening - but the fact that you form a bond with them before doing so. This is extremely fucked up. It's a very jewish way of acting (stabbing others in the back and taking advantage of them). It's very disturbing.

If you want to suck others' energies, just do it like it's written in the link above - no need to get to know others and manipulate them like that.

 

[Dahaarkan]

Social skills are important for this, as I said to Stormblood in another reply, people must be open to you. This is done by forming a bond with them, getting them to like you and see you as a friend etc.

This is an extremely late reply but dude...
First of all, there is no need for you to explain how to do this, as it is already posted in the magick section on JoS: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Energy_Ripping.html

Secondly, your above statement sounds extremely disturbing if it's about random strangers... Unless you're talking about vile people (regardless if they're Gentile or not - though I think jewish energy can not be... 'cleared'... I think not... so one would most likely always suck the energies of another Gentile).
But, if you just meet a random person, who is not an SS, and who is spiritually closed off... I mean, unless you saw that this person had zerooo potential of being an SS, or of realizing the truth about Satan (and then spreading that message to others as well)... Then I guess okay, although... Although it still seems so sickening in my mind.

It's not the act of sucking another person's energies that seems sickening - but the fact that you form a bond with them before doing so. This is extremely fucked up. It's a very jewish way of acting (stabbing others in the back and taking advantage of them). It's very disturbing.

If you want to suck others' energies, just do it like it's written in the link above - no need to get to know others and manipulate them like that.

The energy ripping method in the JoS page only scratches the surface, and is as far as I understand it, designed to weaken another's aura in preparation for curses. I've found much more efficient ways to rip energy from a soul. You can create permanent links that drain chakras directly.

And as for it being "disturbing", it's really not. It's reality. People take advantage of, exploit and abuse each other in every corner of society, it's human nature. One can try to attribute this to jews but it's always been like that. Jews didn't invent cruelty. Sure they pushed and incentivized it to absolute extremes but it's not like it wasn't always a part of human nature.

And there's no shortage of assholes that shouldn't even be allowed to live let alone have the things they do. They don't deserve what they have.

 

[Yagami Light]

And as for it being "disturbing", it's really not. It's reality. People take advantage of, exploit and abuse each other in every corner of society, it's human nature. One can try to attribute this to jews but it's always been like that. Jews didn't invent cruelty. Sure they pushed and incentivized it to absolute extremes but it's not like it wasn't always a part of human nature.

And there's no shortage of assholes that shouldn't even be allowed to live let alone have the things they do. They don't deserve what they have.

I agree that many people deserve the absolute worst in this world - and that they do not deserve the good things that they have because they're shit people.

But it's not in "human nature" to be exploited and manipulative... This is done by people who lack empathy. Also, isn't our purpose as humans, to reach the level of the Gods? Do you think the Gods suck each other's energies? If our goal is to reach their level, how are we supposed to do that by manipulating and taking advantage of our own species?

As I said, I agree that many people deserve the worst... but I don't know if being so cunning is for the best... You can extract revenge in other ways.

And what are you going to do when all the shit people are gone from Earth? Because when the Gods come, gradually humanity will return to the Golden Era of the past.

 

[Aquarius]

And as for it being "disturbing", it's really not. It's reality. People take advantage of, exploit and abuse each other in every corner of society, it's human nature. One can try to attribute this to jews but it's always been like that. Jews didn't invent cruelty. Sure they pushed and incentivized it to absolute extremes but it's not like it wasn't always a part of human nature.

And there's no shortage of assholes that shouldn't even be allowed to live let alone have the things they do. They don't deserve what they have.

I agree that many people deserve the absolute worst in this world - and that they do not deserve the good things that they have because they're shit people.

But it's not in "human nature" to be exploited and manipulative... This is done by people who lack empathy. Also, isn't our purpose as humans, to reach the level of the Gods? Do you think the Gods suck each other's energies? If our goal is to reach their level, how are we supposed to do that by manipulating and taking advantage of our own species?

As I said, I agree that many people deserve the worst... but I don't know if being so cunning is for the best... You can extract revenge in other ways.

And what are you going to do when all the shit people are gone from Earth? Because when the Gods come, gradually humanity will return to the Golden Era of the past.

The guy has admitted to leeching energies off his bosses. He is a lost case, let him deal with the karma a couple years from now when he'll be crying about all the shit he put in his soul.

 

[Dahaarkan]

I agree that many people deserve the absolute worst in this world - and that they do not deserve the good things that they have because they're shit people.

But it's not in "human nature" to be exploited and manipulative... This is done by people who lack empathy. Also, isn't our purpose as humans, to reach the level of the Gods? Do you think the Gods suck each other's energies? If our goal is to reach their level, how are we supposed to do that by manipulating and taking advantage of our own species?

As I said, I agree that many people deserve the worst... but I don't know if being so cunning is for the best... You can extract revenge in other ways.

And what are you going to do when all the shit people are gone from Earth? Because when the Gods come, gradually humanity will return to the Golden Era of the past.

There's no real solid reasoning for your statement this is why most of it is full of what ifs and speculation of the future to come. Trying to apply the morality of gods to humanity in it's current state is delusional.

The gods don't suck each other's energies because they are gods. They aren't struggling against a financial system designed to exploit them, they aren't concerned with what they have to do to make ends meet, with how to rapidly obtain financial stability, with how to survive in a world ruled by parasites that want to kill them.

It's easy for gods to sneer at human necessity because they do not know it. I have a limited time to achieve financial liberation and transition that into full time spiritual advancement. They have all the time and security in the universe to do so. And as a reminder: you are not a god. So consider this when wanting to apply the morality of gods to yourself.

Psychic vampirism is at it's absolute peak in terms of power and usefulness in this age where no one meditates or protects themselves from psychic parasitism. It's obvious in a society where everyone meditates and is aware of such things that such practices will be largely useless. But you don't live in such so what's your point.


You seem to have the misconception that the practice is a form of addiction or necessity. When it stops being useful I'll stop doing it. But as it is most people have more blessings than they deserve, and I don't have enough.

I know it feels nice to be self-righteous and have a sense of holiness, but frankly I think it feels nicer to have disposable income, stability and security.


As for humanity not being engineered to be manipulated and exploited, well. Considering how easily the jews subverted the entire world's population, and continue to do so even after undeniable proof of their bullshit has surfaced, one has to wonder if it's really a bug and not a feature.

 

[Jrvan]

I agree that many people deserve the absolute worst in this world - and that they do not deserve the good things that they have because they're shit people.

But it's not in "human nature" to be exploited and manipulative... This is done by people who lack empathy. Also, isn't our purpose as humans, to reach the level of the Gods? Do you think the Gods suck each other's energies? If our goal is to reach their level, how are we supposed to do that by manipulating and taking advantage of our own species?

As I said, I agree that many people deserve the worst... but I don't know if being so cunning is for the best... You can extract revenge in other ways.

And what are you going to do when all the shit people are gone from Earth? Because when the Gods come, gradually humanity will return to the Golden Era of the past.

There's no real solid reasoning for your statement this is why most of it is full of what ifs and speculation of the future to come. Trying to apply the morality of gods to humanity in it's current state is delusional.

The gods don't suck each other's energies because they are gods. They aren't struggling against a financial system designed to exploit them, they aren't concerned with what they have to do to make ends meet, with how to rapidly obtain financial stability, with how to survive in a world ruled by parasites that want to kill them.

It's easy for gods to sneer at human necessity because they do not know it. I have a limited time to achieve financial liberation and transition that into full time spiritual advancement. They have all the time and security in the universe to do so. And as a reminder: you are not a god. So consider this when wanting to apply the morality of gods to yourself.

Psychic vampirism is at it's absolute peak in terms of power and usefulness in this age where no one meditates or protects themselves from psychic parasitism. It's obvious in a society where everyone meditates and is aware of such things that such practices will be largely useless. But you don't live in such so what's your point.


You seem to have the misconception that the practice is a form of addiction or necessity. When it stops being useful I'll stop doing it. But as it is most people have more blessings than they deserve, and I don't have enough.

I know it feels nice to be self-righteous and have a sense of holiness, but frankly I think it feels nicer to have disposable income, stability and security.


As for humanity not being engineered to be manipulated and exploited, well. Considering how easily the jews subverted the entire world's population, and continue to do so even after undeniable proof of their bullshit has surfaced, one has to wonder if it's really a bug and not a feature.

No, the Gods are just fighting against the cosmic masters of the jews so that their children don't get eliminated with absolute certainty. If you think the Gods have it so easy and carefree then maybe you should ask them because otherwise you're just assuming, and that's not fair. The Gods do so much for us that it would be impossible to survive without them. We're only alive right now because of the help of the Gods. We only have the RTR's because of the Gods. Azazel worked with Maxine to give us the FRTR, and that's just one example. They gave us our spirituality, magick, and our very existence in the first place. They protect our souls during life and in the afterlife so we can continue to advance. I could go on and on about how much the Gods do for us.

The Gods know what we go through, and what we struggle against, and they understand. They also struggle against far worse and more powerful foes that we wouldn't stand a chance against on our own. They kind of have a cosmic empire to defend and maintain... I think you should watch your mouth a bit more when it comes to our Gods. I don't like what you said about them. How would you like it if you did all that for your creations, and then they bitched about you not knowing what they go through and how you have it so much easier than them? They have had to watch the downward spiral of their children, precious individual souls getting erased from existence, souls being harvested into the enemy machine, and on top of it all they had to watch their enemies turn their own children against them and make them hate them. Imagine being hated by your children because of your enemy. We matter to them, and they're trying to help us.

I'm not going to comment on the other things you have been talking about because it's your own spirituality, and you've been here long enough to make your own decisions without a guiding hand. I trust you know what you are doing, and if you don't then the consequences are of your own making for which you alone bear the responsibility. I don't really care about that, and I don't have an opinion on it. I only wanted to touch upon what you said about our Gods.

 

[Dahaarkan]

The guy has admitted to leeching energies off his bosses. He is a lost case, let him deal with the karma a couple years from now when he'll be crying about all the shit he put in his soul.

It's always interesting to me discussing this topic because it's pretty funny how people who have never even delved into it presume to tell me that it has this consequence or another. When they know nothing of the topic besides their own speculation and theories.

But sure kiddo, if imagining me crying over something you barely understand makes you feel better, go ahead and dream about it

 

[Aquarius]

The guy has admitted to leeching energies off his bosses. He is a lost case, let him deal with the karma a couple years from now when he'll be crying about all the shit he put in his soul.

It's always interesting to me discussing this topic because it's pretty funny how people who have never even delved into it presume to tell me that it has this consequence or another. When they know nothing of the topic besides their own speculation and theories.

But sure kiddo, if imagining me crying over something you barely understand makes you feel better, go ahead and dream about it

There's not much to understand. You feel self righteouss in acting like a jew and vampiring off people more financially succesful than yourself, that they are bad people doesn't matter because you're inhaling their karma into your soul. Funny thing is that we literally have the means to absorb sun energy which is the most powerful energy but you think that ripping energy off some rich dude is gonna make you rich. Not sure if stupid or just ignorant. HC has even talked about this, the karma they have, you're gonna own it, have fun in that. Also, this is not a taboo, this is literally a retarded practice, that's why people don't like it and avoid speaking about it.
Now give me a break with this bullshit, you can only convince some new and naive people that your jewish practice is good and right.

 

[Stormblood]

It's not the act of sucking another person's energies that seems sickening - but the fact that you form a bond with them before doing so. This is extremely fucked up. It's a very jewish way of acting (stabbing others in the back and taking advantage of them). It's very disturbing.

If you want to suck others' energies, just do it like it's written in the link above - no need to get to know others and manipulate them like that.

Good luck explaining it to him and the fact that it's natural only for sub-human/untermensch, which is the majority of the population nowadays anyway.

 

[Stormblood]

To anyone trying what Dahaarkan suggested, try and do it a safer way.

:arrow: Never make contact with the energies, but instead make them into a ball or whatever shape in front of you and send them to your goal. Otherwise, there will be negative repercussion for most, as the energies would need to be purified.

The only point of merit in his latest reasoning is that there many people who are undeserving. The chronically unemployed might try to use some of the 'luck' of immature, narcissistic and entitled people who still get jobs or already have a job they do not deserve. There is plenty of Millennials and Zoomers like that. There is also plenty of capitalistic-minded and communistic-minded people who exploit others and deserve the worst in life, as they'll oriented toward is profit in the first case with disregard to human life and its value. Why should they keep wealth and status? You should direct the RTRs at them and make fortune from the misfortune they incur into.

This is simply restoring hierarchies and rankings on Earth as they are supposed to be: the worthy at the top and the unworthy at the bottom. The worthy are those who care for others and contribute to their race in a positive, uplifting way; the unworthy is those that are only leeches and parasites, either by doing nothing at all or by [inhumanly] exploiting other people.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

the unworthy is those that are only leeches and parasites

((((Then suggests that the solution is to be a parasite))))

We can connect to sources of infinite energy, through the gods and through the sun. We can accomplish anything if we work for it. Which I know from experience because I have built myself to a very successful level.

But instead, the answer is to be a parasite? Humans are not naturally parasitic, so you are suggesting for people to act as subhuman insects. When they don't have to be because we can accomplish whatever we want without that.

 

[Stormblood]

the unworthy is those that are only leeches and parasites

((((Then suggests that the solution is to be a parasite))))

We can connect to sources of infinite energy, through the gods and through the sun. We can accomplish anything if we work for it. Which I know from experience because I have built myself to a very successful level.

But instead, the answer is to be a parasite? Humans are not naturally parasitic, so you are suggesting for people to act as subhuman insects. When they don't have to be because we can accomplish whatever we want without that.

I'm just trying to lessen the blow for people who still think it's a good idea because of the few merits in the crab boy's words.

Plus, there's nothing wrong with depriving the unworthy from positions of power and employment they don't deserve. Stripping them of their energies (without making contact with said energies) so they lose the unfairly gained positions is exacting justice in one of many ways. We do this already partially with one of the Greek RTRs (Terminating financial control). It's a waste to just destroy them and leave their energies hanging around to dissipate (or to be reabsorbed get them again in a similar position).

What happens with the RTRs is similar. If you focus them on a villain or an undeserving person, some of the energy related to the goal will leak out of them (those that aren't neutered in the clash). The RTR as an alternative to Dahaarkan's idea, as I proposed, is better.

I'm fully aware you have a beef with me, Ol. Don't think it goes unnoticed. From siding with Aldrick when he was doing his character murder, to taking my words about mental control out of context and using them to try and start a fight, to now this. These are just 3 main examples of a bigger pattern. I am aware you lurking in the shadows, waiting to take another jab.

I'll let you know: you are of no concern to me. You can try as hard as you want but you'll never get anything from me, like you won't get anything from other devoted SS who are as transparent as I am. Give up or keep going. It doesn't matter.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

I'm fully aware you have a beef with me, Ol. Don't think it goes unnoticed. From siding with Aldrick when he was doing his character murder, to taking my words about mental control out of context and using them to try and start a fight, to now this. These are just 3 main examples of a bigger pattern. I am aware you lurking in the shadows, waiting to take another jab.

I'll let you know: you are of no concern to me. You can try as hard as you want but you'll never get anything from me, like you won't get anything from other devoted SS who are as transparent as I am. Give up or keep going. It doesn't matter.

I don't have any beef with you. Why would I? Do you hold grudges against people years later all over some small disagreement? Because I don't.

Something like 4 years ago, somebody was saying it's okay to put binding curses on other Satanists. And I angrily disagreed with this. Maybe I am remembering wrong, but I think it was you who was saying that. This is the only example that I can think of about any time I disagreed with you in any big and serious way. And I do not hold any grudge against you for that because I am assuming that you have grown since then. Everybody has said something wrong before.

And about you and Aldrick, I do not care much about either one of you. I used to respect both of you. What I disagreed with was how you would literally follow Aldrick around to every comment he wrote just to say shit trying to start fights with him. Am I remembering this wrong, or was this you? You wouldn't even respond to what he was saying in the comment, you would just bring up completely unrelated shit to yell at him for. So I replied saying something like your behaviour was being pretty ridiculous and I found it pretty disgusting. You were acting like a troll.

All of this was years ago, I don't care about any of it. Anything I said was because I felt at the time that I should say something. And that was the end of it. It never went any further, and I never held any grudge. Actually I just wrote a comment a week or 2 ago saying how much I respect you for your knowledge of how languages work.

But it seems like you are the kind of person to have one small disagreement with somebody, and remember it forever. Hating that person and holding a grudge against them for years later. I am not like this. Seems like such a waste of time and energy to hold a grudge like that over something so small and stupid.

 

[SagittarianMage]

Stomach turning ghouls...

 

[Jrvan]

I'm fully aware you have a beef with me, Ol. Don't think it goes unnoticed. From siding with Aldrick when he was doing his character murder, to taking my words about mental control out of context and using them to try and start a fight, to now this. These are just 3 main examples of a bigger pattern. I am aware you lurking in the shadows, waiting to take another jab.

I'll let you know: you are of no concern to me. You can try as hard as you want but you'll never get anything from me, like you won't get anything from other devoted SS who are as transparent as I am. Give up or keep going. It doesn't matter.

I don't have any beef with you. Why would I? Do you hold grudges against people years later all over some small disagreement? Because I don't.

Something like 4 years ago, somebody was saying it's okay to put binding curses on other Satanists. And I angrily disagreed with this. Maybe I am remembering wrong, but I think it was you who was saying that. This is the only example that I can think of about any time I disagreed with you in any big and serious way. And I do not hold any grudge against you for that because I am assuming that you have grown since then. Everybody has said something wrong before.

And about you and Aldrick, I do not care much about either one of you. I used to respect both of you. What I disagreed with was how you would literally follow Aldrick around to every comment he wrote just to say shit trying to start fights with him. Am I remembering this wrong, or was this you? You wouldn't even respond to what he was saying in the comment, you would just bring up completely unrelated shit to yell at him for. So I replied saying something like your behaviour was being pretty ridiculous and I found it pretty disgusting. You were acting like a troll.

All of this was years ago, I don't care about any of it. Anything I said was because I felt at the time that I should say something. And that was the end of it. It never went any further, and I never held any grudge. Actually I just wrote a comment a week or 2 ago saying how much I respect you for your knowledge of how languages work.

But it seems like you are the kind of person to have one small disagreement with somebody, and remember it forever. Hating that person and holding a grudge against them for years later. I am not like this. Seems like such a waste of time and energy to hold a grudge like that over something so small and stupid.

To be fair, putting the triple parentheses around his quote is pretty suggestive, and could easily be mistaken for hostility even if it wasn't your intent. Triple parentheses usually implies juden, right? Something to be aware of, I think. That sort of thing would naturally generate defensiveness, and could give the impression that you are at odds with him.

 

[Dahaarkan]

There's not much to understand. You feel self righteouss in acting like a jew and vampiring off people more financially succesful than yourself, that they are bad people doesn't matter because you're inhaling their karma into your soul. Funny thing is that we literally have the means to absorb sun energy which is the most powerful energy but you think that ripping energy off some rich dude is gonna make you rich. Not sure if stupid or just ignorant. HC has even talked about this, the karma they have, you're gonna own it, have fun in that. Also, this is not a taboo, this is literally a retarded practice, that's why people don't like it and avoid speaking about it.
Now give me a break with this bullshit, you can only convince some new and naive people that your jewish practice is good and right.

I'm not the one who brought it up again months later, the topic has been dead for quite some time. I didn't ask for a therapist or approval either. I've also said more than once that it's not something new people should be trying, but something to consider as a supplement to traditional money workings.

All you've got is presumption and constantly moaning in fear about what "could" happen. It's all that's ever said, really. Vague prophecies and assumptions of things that didn't, and won't happen. And any negativity that comes with it can be washed out and cleaned like anything else. So what's your point?


Instead of sitting in a corner terrified of what "might" happen I'm instead focusing on what is actually happening. I've never had so much money in my life.

 

[Dahaarkan]

If that's not the case for you due to whatever specifics, then you can ignore what people say about it. It's your own responsibility. These warning are given because of the dangers, so if you are able to circumvent those then they're irrelevant to you. I just hope that you don't overestimate yourself and make a mistake, but it's not my place to judge that.

Perhaps in the future I'll have regrets, or perhaps not. There's a reason I don't delve deeper into this topic detailing all my methods and findings, and this is because I do take these warnings seriously despite my stubborn nature. And wouldn't want to encourage others into such pitfalls. So I discuss this only on a superficial level.

I know many are sitting on the edge of their chair waiting for me to drop a post saying how I was wrong and this practice is a very bad idea, but I'm yet to have any real significant negative consequences. And I didn't start a year or two ago, you know. This has been going for some time.


Time will tell, perhaps I'm wrong and will take everything back. Perhaps not.

 

[Dahaarkan]

But it seems like you are the kind of person to have one small disagreement with somebody, and remember it forever. Hating that person and holding a grudge against them for years later. I am not like this. Seems like such a waste of time and energy to hold a grudge like that over something so small and stupid.

Not really, and this is coming from someone who disagrees with him in virtually every topic we discuss. And have had several heated arguments in the past. And there's no hostility between us unless he masks it so well to a point I can't notice it.

 

[Dahaarkan]

...

What I'm trying to say is that the gods exist on a totally different level than we do. This is not to say that they have it easier, or harder, because I would not know. But I do know that it is vastly different.

Different environment, different conditions, different necessities. This is not blaming or hating on the gods, but stating facts, you cannot apply their morality to humanity in it's current state.


And thus there are things that perhaps you would do that for them would be unthinkable. But make sense given your circumstances and necessities.

 

[Dahaarkan]

Good luck explaining it to him and the fact that it's natural only for sub-human/untermensch, which is the majority of the population nowadays anyway.

You want to explain this to me like I don't know this already. Yes it's subhuman behavior, yes it's slimy, and yes it's parasitic. It can also be used righteously and for a good cause, and bring a positive impact to the world. Done right, and to the right people.

One can do a death spell on a child and is the problem really with the fact that death spells are a thing or that the person doing it is a psychopath?


Also it's not a crab

 

[Jrvan]

...

What I'm trying to say is that the gods exist on a totally different level than we do. This is not to say that they have it easier, or harder, because I would not know. But I do know that it is vastly different.

Different environment, different conditions, different necessities. This is not blaming or hating on the gods, but stating facts, you cannot apply their morality to humanity in it's current state.


And thus there are things that perhaps you would do that for them would be unthinkable. But make sense given your circumstances and necessities.

I see. Kind of like how Nature compels us to eat, and normally people think of cannibalism as unthinkable and unacceptable until they're living under communism for a long time. This is the sort of thing you mean?

 

[Rook]

crab boy

Also it's not a crab

is this you? because i thought you were a lobster for some reason ngl.

So, Ethmostigmus Trigonopodus boy.
centipede boy

 

[Dahaarkan]

crab boy

Also it's not a crab

is this you? because i thought you were a lobster for some reason ngl.

So, Ethmostigmus Trigonopodus boy.
centipede boy

Yes, as you can see I must take extreme measures to make money so I can buy hundreds of shoes

 

[Dahaarkan]

I see. Kind of like how Nature compels us to eat, and normally people think of cannibalism as unthinkable and unacceptable until they're living under communism for a long time. This is the sort of thing you mean?

A less extreme and perhaps more grounded example is a person eating something from a trash can, but is the same principle. Perhaps it's unthinkable given your current circumstances but if you were starving such things perhaps would make more sense.

 

[Rook]

Yes, as you can see I must take extreme measures to make money so I can buy hundreds of shoes

At least you a centipede and not a millipede,
cuz then you'd have to be like Gul'dan.
https://youtu.be/V50GRThg9rg?t=99

 

[Stormblood]

Something like 4 years ago, somebody was saying it's okay to put binding curses on other Satanists. And I angrily disagreed with this. Maybe I am remembering wrong, but I think it was you who was saying that. This is the only example that I can think of about any time I disagreed with you in any big and serious way. And I do not hold any grudge against you for that because I am assuming that you have grown since then. Everybody has said something wrong before.

Nope. That wasn't what I said. Some of the things I stated were that Gods are not going to protect you if another so-called SS tries to bind you. Someone did that to me a few years ago when I decided to correct translations of RTRs in my native language, as I had calmly pointed there were some mistakes that misconstrued the meaning of many affirmation and I was immediately accused of being a kike because that person has such an ego he could not contemplate he could make a translation mistake. I was sent support messages and convinced to take the matter into my own hands.

I told HP HC and he told me it was fine for me to translate but he would prefer for me to work with said egomaniac (note: egomaniac is how I am labelling him, not how HP HC named him. HP HC called him by his username and made no comment about their behaviour in that instance). I started working on it, and my computer started going crazy. MS Word crashing, not saving stuff, getting frozen for long times (and not even shutting off), laptop switching off on his own and not turning on. Then, when I finally managed to finish everything in more than a month when it normally would've taken only a couple of days at most, I sent it over to HP HC to be checked. First time he never received it. I asked him after 3 months what had happened and he replied so. I sent it over again and it was never received again.

Another thing I stated is that binding and curses are two different things and that we're not xtards. Also, that bindings affect only a particular thing, not your entire life and what it affects depends on the affirmation and the intention, while others were saying you screw up someone's entire life, which showed how superficially they understand witchcraft.

In conclusion, I never said it's okay to bind SS but that it's going to happen anyway, even if it's not, as my experience and that of other SS proves. You are free to dig up the conversation again, if you don't believe me, so we can see together the exact wording.

And about you and Aldrick, I do not care much about either one of you. I used to respect both of you. What I disagreed with was how you would literally follow Aldrick around to every comment he wrote just to say shit trying to start fights with him. Am I remembering this wrong, or was this you? You wouldn't even respond to what he was saying in the comment, you would just bring up completely unrelated shit to yell at him for. So I replied saying something like your behaviour was being pretty ridiculous and I found it pretty disgusting. You were acting like a troll.

Yes, you are wrong. I never followed anyone around. Even when I used to write more on the forum, I never checked anyone's post history to see what they're doing, except Lydia's and some HP's. I do, however, remember Shael and you following Rook around...

But it seems like you are the kind of person to have one small disagreement with somebody, and remember it forever. Hating that person and holding a grudge against them for years later. I am not like this. Seems like such a waste of time and energy to hold a grudge like that over something so small and stupid.

Remembering things is different from hating and holding grudges. I have a very good memory but it doesn't mean I'm hating or holding grudges just because I also remember confrontational behaviour. Unlike Aldrick and a couple of others, you are not even on the ignore list, but you'll be there if I see other iterations of this impulsive behaviour. And it shouldn't be a problem for you anyway, whether you are on the naughty boy list or not. What should matter is your commitment to the cause, which you've shown mainly through your archivist tendencies.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

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1. I am happy that it was not you on that topic. The topic was such a negative vortex that it was deleted so there is no way to go back and see. But I will trust you completely since I do not strongly remember who it was and it easily could have been somebody else.

2. I never said that you checked anybody's post history. But I do very clearly remember this situation and it was you. Aldrick made a topic for "Zodiac Mantras" or something like that. Many of them were either wrong, useless, or even dangerous. So you correctly disagreed with him about it and told him not to spread dangerous shit. But then nearly every comment that he wrote on any topic for the next couple weeks, you were quoting him just to argue at him, saying he's stupid and bringing up his mistake with the zodiac mantras. Even when his comment you were replying to had nothing to do with that.

I remember very clearly this situation and that it was you. And you remember it too because it's part of the reason that you don't like me and you think I side with Aldrick.

I have made some mistakes like this before and harassed people who didn't deserve it. I regret this, and if I could go back and tell myself not to do it I would. So I'm not pretending to be perfect. I have also been correct most of the times I did this, and correctly called out people who actually were infiltrators and got them to leave. I'm not saying I am perfect, I am only saying that you did go after Aldrick in a way I thought was too much and I did make a reply to you about it, and this is part of what influenced you to think I am against you. But I'm not against you. I agree with most of the things you have ever said. There have been a couple examples of me not agreeing with you, just like there are examples of everybody disagreeing with everyone else.

I got the idea from your reply to me a few days ago that you were basically accusing me of being some infiltrator plotting against you. One of the freaks that Aldrick has been talking to for years. Maybe I got the wrong idea and this is not what you meant, but that was what I felt you were saying. I have seen you accuse other people of colluding like this through emails before, and I know you were right about some of them. But I have never had anything to do with any of this. I have emailed only 3 people before; Cobra, Lydia, and another girl who barely ever makes any posts anymore. And only sent a couple emails with each of them. There has never been any instance of me colluding with anybody, and nothing against you. So I answered to explain every example I could think of of me disagreeing with you to try to figure out what would give you the idea that I am some infiltrator, and to explain that I really can't think of anything serious that would give you that idea. Like I said, I have always respected you and agreed with most of the things you have said. And you thinking of me as being like an infiltrator just because I have disagreed with you only a handful of times in all insignificant little ways, it is plainly ridiculous and childish. Do you want me to follow you around and praise everything you say? I have other things to focus on.


Did you think I was specifically targeting you because I only replied to you and not to Dahaarkan? This is because I respect your judgement much better than his and I expect better from you. I didn't say anything to Dahaarkan only because there is no point saying anything to him. He has talked for years about how he manipulates, and binds, and curses regular innocent people. Like that topic of him being attracted to a guy and putting all kinds of spells and bindings on the guy, psychically draining him. Then when the guy finally became interested in him, Dahaarkan lost all interest in him and cut off all contact. Just move on to the next guy and don't even care what happens to the first. He has been leaching and parasiting off of regular innocent people for years, and for years he has had people disagreeing with him about this. There is no way to change his mind. There is nothing to say to him that has not already been said. This is the only reason I replied to you and not to him, because you are much more rational about this and you are able to discuss it rationally.

If you want me to kiss your ass, I'm not going to. But please stop pretending that there is some kind of conflict between us, because there is not.
I never even knew that you ever thought there was any conflict between us until you brought it up a few days ago, but I guess you have felt that way for a long time. I'm just trying to say there is no reason for this. I live my own life, I have no focus on you.

 

[Dahaarkan]

Did you think I was specifically targeting you because I only replied to you and not to Dahaarkan? This is because I respect your judgement much better than his and I expect better from you. I didn't say anything to Dahaarkan only because there is no point saying anything to him. He has talked for years about how he manipulates, and binds, and curses regular innocent people. Like that topic of him being attracted to a guy and putting all kinds of spells and bindings on the guy, psychically draining him. Then when the guy finally became interested in him, Dahaarkan lost all interest in him and cut off all contact. Just move on to the next guy and don't even care what happens to the first. He has been leaching and parasiting off of regular innocent people for years, and for years he has had people disagreeing with him about this. There is no way to change his mind. There is nothing to say to him that has not already been said. This is the only reason I replied to you and not to him, because you are much more rational about this and you are able to discuss it rationally.

You're making a lot of assumptions here. I fell madly in love with someone and did everything I could to drive this person away from another person he was more interested in. I never harmed or drained this person besides driving a wedge into their relationship because I wanted to be with them. Love happens.

And then well, things didn't go so well some time later. Relationships don't always go well. You're making a lot of assumptions on my personal life which is honestly creepy. If you're referring to a different case I may have spoken about, that damaged said individual, this was several years ago when I had no clue what I was doing.

I've also never done any spiritual harm to anybody who did not deserve it, this is again making wild assumptions. I personally know several people who are very successful and more wealthy than me and I've never drained them simply because they have not built their wealth on the exploitation of others, and don't deserve it.


This post is oddly specific and personal on different aspects and indicative that you've been thinking, or talking about me a lot. I'm flattered, really, but you're dead wrong. It's true I push people to learn and understand distasteful or taboo things like psychic vampirism, manipulation etc, but you're assuming this is with the intent to make people behave like degenerates, and that I behave like such myself.

The more you understand something the better you can protect yourself from it, and even make use of it if a time comes when you need it.


Just because someone owns a gun doesn't mean they will use it to shoot everybody they see. Just like if someone knows how to manipulate or drain people doesn't mean they will do it to everybody they meet. It's been months since I've drained anybody's soul anyway, this adorable intervention is very poorly timed.

And please refrain from making assumptions on my personal life. You're free to fantasize about me and what I do but do keep those thoughts to yourself thanks.

 

[Stormblood]

2. I never said that you checked anybody's post history. But I do very clearly remember this situation and it was you. Aldrick made a topic for "Zodiac Mantras" or something like that. Many of them were either wrong, useless, or even dangerous. So you correctly disagreed with him about it and told him not to spread dangerous shit. But then nearly every comment that he wrote on any topic for the next couple weeks, you were quoting him just to argue at him, saying he's stupid and bringing up his mistake with the zodiac mantras. Even when his comment you were replying to had nothing to do with that.

I remember very clearly this situation and that it was you. And you remember it too because it's part of the reason that you don't like me and you think I side with Aldrick.

If replying to that person who was saying they never did anything and quoting episodes of where they messed up (even with themselves and were also told so by the clergy) at a distance of years (not immediately afterward like you suggest), is following people around, then I guess I was following him around.

I got the idea from your reply to me a few days ago that you were basically accusing me of being some infiltrator plotting against you. One of the freaks that Aldrick has been talking to for years. Maybe I got the wrong idea and this is not what you meant, but that was what I felt you were saying. I have seen you accuse other people of colluding like this through emails before, and I know you were right about some of them. But I have never had anything to do with any of this. I have emailed only 3 people before; Cobra, Lydia, and another girl who barely ever makes any posts anymore. And only sent a couple emails with each of them. There has never been any instance of me colluding with anybody, and nothing against you. So I answered to explain every example I could think of of me disagreeing with you to try to figure out what would give you the idea that I am some infiltrator, and to explain that I really can't think of anything serious that would give you that idea. Like I said, I have always respected you and agreed with most of the things you have said. And you thinking of me as being like an infiltrator just because I have disagreed with you only a handful of times in all insignificant little ways, it is plainly ridiculous and childish. Do you want me to follow you around and praise everything you say? I have other things to focus on.

Speaking of this, there is someone doing that to you: emailing people, telling them you are part of an enemy group and posting weird stuff on said groups. They emailed me immediately after reading this discussion between us, thinking I would back them up. It seems you graduated to the "defamation behind your back" level. I don't think they should be given any more fuel.

Try to think about this: having a beef with someone specifically is not the same thing as being an infiltrator. I have no reason to believe you're one, so please keep avoiding to give me any reason for suspicion.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Speaking of this, there is someone doing that to you: emailing people, telling them you are part of an enemy group and posting weird stuff on said groups. They emailed me immediately after reading this discussion between us, thinking I would back them up. It seems you graduated to the "defamation behind your back" level. I don't think they should be given any more fuel.

Who is saying this?

 

[Stormblood]

Speaking of this, there is someone doing that to you: emailing people, telling them you are part of an enemy group and posting weird stuff on said groups. They emailed me immediately after reading this discussion between us, thinking I would back them up. It seems you graduated to the "defamation behind your back" level. I don't think they should be given any more fuel.

Who is saying this?

[email protected]

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Speaking of this, there is someone doing that to you: emailing people, telling them you are part of an enemy group and posting weird stuff on said groups. They emailed me immediately after reading this discussion between us, thinking I would back them up. It seems you graduated to the "defamation behind your back" level. I don't think they should be given any more fuel.

Who is saying this?

[email protected]

Never heard of them. Must be some rat jew. Probably one of the couple ones who have been banned 50 times and keep coming back.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

"If a comrade of ours opens a Jewish newspaper in the morning and does not find himself vilified there, then he has spent yesterday to no account. For if he had achieved something he would be persecuted, slandered, derided and abused. Those who effectively combat this mortal enemy of our people, who is at the same time the enemy of all Aryan peoples and all culture, can only expect to arouse opposition on the part of this race and become the object of its slanderous attacks."

 

[Gearshift]

Not to get involved with this thread. But on energy ripping.

I notice a lot of people using the method from JoS incorrectly. Despite YES you can absorb an essence of the person and take in qualities of them. That isn't the point of the ritual. Someone said it's part of a weakening process for cursing or even so much as binding or both bind/curse.

But the energy ripping method can easily be a direct method of pumping the person with negativity.

One of the methods I used MANY years ago against an annoying person in my high school. Not annoying to me but annoying to my friend who later said the guy came up to him and said his father was having some issues and he was depressed about it. My friend couldn't believe the coincidence and said to me I think what you did worked.

The method is to use the lower chakras to drain his/her energies and the more you know about the soul the more you can take or simply visualize the entire soul draining. But that's the thing do you really want to absorb a person's essence and become like them or worse have issues?

If what we know we drain the aura or rip the aura for example you can visualize their aura cracking apart and being absorbed by Mul/Sav/Mani one of the three chakaras and then drain their soul. You can visualize all their soul energy draining into the energy ball. Some years ago on yahoo forums a more open member stated the energies of a person are like pastel energies there's this amalgamation of energies and it's not even worth using as a source of spiritual empowerment nor even testing purposes. In other words avoid it all costs.

I did find an alternative way of using the energy ripping on the high schooler who my friend found annoying. Not that he was a bad person but I'd rather avoid seeing him hang around with us.

Upon ripping his energy aura, then soul and draining him black non-existence. I visualized a dirty black aura around the person and I visualized the same dirty black aura on the energy ball of the ripped energy. And visualized the energy turn completely nasty grey. Then I merely pushed the energy ball into the person filled their soul with the grey ball energy and even unto their aura and merge with the black aura so that his aura is working against him and is kaballatizing negative realities.

Despite being not spiritually advanced to see or know my handiwork. I'll admit I'm a mentally intense person using my mind a lot obviously in no way, shape, or form is that a positive thing for the most part. The incident with his father did show something happened. And funny enough afterwards my friend told me it's been several days/weeks since the annoying kid even so much as talked to him even if he had him for a class, the kid just basically avoided him.

Basically use THEIR soul's aura/soul itself energies against the person. Why even bother with this method for empowerment unless your a psi-vamp or someone being stupid. Just use their energy against them no need to merge or become this person. I think the only reason why this method was placed on JoS was simply for some black magick perhaps more respectable in the sense of passive or simpler black magick. Certainly even the most advanced JoS members still cannot perform black magick like the Gods, they can do a lot more than I nor anyone on this thread. But if you really want to delve into the weapons aspect it's a deep chasm.

Funny negativity and weapons go together bombs and guns follow the path of quickest and least resistance. Like the old days before steel helmets were made. People died by the dozens when showered with shrapnel. It's MUCH easier to destroy down than construct up. But when it comes to black magick/justice magick/baneful magick it's the opposite. Rather it requires a DEEP intense level of spiritual propagation to reduce the consciousness of an enemy.

In other words black magick might be a weapon but to use that weapon requires a lot of time and effort. Probably one of the reasons we avoid anything but passive black magick returning curses or delegating a destruction ritual like the one on JoS with summoning the Gods to perform a ritual on a person or basically other passive methods like building an AoP and bouncing off negativity that affects the sender/s.

We don't delve into black magick we merely passively generate banefulness with white magick or reversal magick. No one is told NEVER do it. But when we tell people it's not as easy as it is or it can create issues. It's akin a gun, yes guns are intuitive easily even a little kid making a gun symbol with his hands/fingers knows what's up.

But did you know you have to practice with the weapon and gain a scientific testing for using the gun by the user. It's not pulls out pistol and fires there's too many variables.

So in my opinion energy ripping is one of the most easiest and passive methods for black magick without delving into baneful magick nor binding. I would still clean and protect after energy ripping as your keeping a grey colored ball of their energy and essence outside yourself within aura range. But it's not an entire orchestra of banefulness it's more like punching or kicking the person once or a few times and showing them not to mess with you.

IF what happened to that kid and even my friend noticed then it begs the question to people if you try it out the way I outlined what results might have.

Again yes it's a preliminary method but that doesn't mean it doesn't have to be a direct method, on the contrary it could be a direct and passive method for darker aspects of magick.