Are transcendental planets more powerful than the Sun

[The Phantom Stranger]

Considering how we are given the sun's square but not uranus, pluto or neptune... Are these planets even more powerful than the sun?

 

[Schwarze Sonne]

No they aren't more powerful, they have energies that are more difficult to control and direct.

 

[666t666]

Considering how we are given the sun's square but not uranus, pluto or neptune... Are these planets even more powerful than the sun?
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Well of course the transcendental planets contain so much power. But powerful isn't the right choice of word here. We rather describe them as not powerful however ''much more dangerous'' compare to Sun.

Sun is life, the life force and pure life energy. As living beings we need that powerful life force. The Sun is what makes you live, breathe, move etc.

Neptune is spiritual power, hypnotic and misleading, quite dangerous. tremendously powerful and infinite psychic power and deception, Neptune is dreams and lies, the black lies, the white lies, lies and deception of any kind.

Uranus is a piercing energy that is experienced suddenly and quickly, cannot be kept under control, and is quite shocking

Pluto is pure power. Power of any kind, the extremes, the death, quick and unexpected sudden death. Infinite and uncontrollable psychic power with Neptune. Black magic.

 

[WiseDragon]

No, they are very unpredictable more than anything.

 

[The Phantom Stranger]

No they aren't more powerful, they have energies that are more difficult to control and direct.

Then what is the point of using them?? We could just use Mars for strength... I thought Pluto would like give you even more strength because it said "extreme force" and stuff like that + that it was a higher octave...

 

[luis]

No they aren't more powerful, they have energies that are more difficult to control and direct.

Then what is the point of using them?? We could just use Mars for strength... I thought Pluto would like give you even more strength because it said "extreme force" and stuff like that + that it was a higher octave...

I feel like negative energies are so easy to manifest in this world and this is why they may seem more powerful. They are not, they just seems to bring negative stuff.

I know you want fast results but there is a way. If you are trying to manifest something and you want it fast, instead of doing just one spell per day, do more and more. Program your mind with affirmations to manifest that specific thing and above all meditate so your energies are strong. Strong energy, focus and many repetitions bring faster and strong manifestations. The squares are probably one of the strongest magic we have but they still need strong focus for them to work.

 

[Schwarze Sonne]

No they aren't more powerful, they have energies that are more difficult to control and direct.

Then what is the point of using them?? We could just use Mars for strength... I thought Pluto would like give you even more strength because it said "extreme force" and stuff like that + that it was a higher octave...

I wouldn't use Pluto energy for augmenting strength either, Mars is the Planet that rules physical strength. Pluto being its higher octave doesn't mean that it rules the same things as Mars in a more powerful way.
Being an higher octave means having a more refined energy, that is more diffucult for us to control, unless one Ascend to higher planes of existence.

 

[The Phantom Stranger]

I wouldn't use Pluto energy for augmenting strength either, Mars is the Planet that rules physical strength. Pluto being its higher octave doesn't mean that it rules the same things as Mars in a more powerful way.
Being an higher octave means having a more refined energy, that is more diffucult for us to control, unless one Ascend to higher planes of existence.

But in Pluto page it states that it rules "use of extreme violence" & "extreme force". Aren't these like, you know connected to strength

 

[Schwarze Sonne]

I wouldn't use Pluto energy for augmenting strength either, Mars is the Planet that rules physical strength. Pluto being its higher octave doesn't mean that it rules the same things as Mars in a more powerful way.
Being an higher octave means having a more refined energy, that is more diffucult for us to control, unless one Ascend to higher planes of existence.

But in Pluto page it states that it rules "use of extreme violence" & "extreme force". Aren't these like, you know connected to strength

Mars rules physical strength whereas Pluto rules a different type of strength: power, influence, domination, brutal and uncontrolled force.
If you want to increase your physical strength then use a Mars square; invoking the energies of Pluto for such an accomplishment is just wrong because it cannot do it. In fact it's more likely that it can cause you pain and ruin.

 

[Ĥl·lĥæ]

No they aren't more powerful, they have energies that are more difficult to control and direct.

That's kind of sad since mu uranus is in the first house. Most of my planets are in 11⁰ and this limits me in an inexplicable way, as my communication with people is non-existent.
Can I control certain negative aspects of Uranus with any Rune you know?

 

[luis]

No they aren't more powerful, they have energies that are more difficult to control and direct.

That's kind of sad since mu uranus is in the first house. Most of my planets are in 11⁰ and this limits me in an inexplicable way, as my communication with people is non-existent.
Can I control certain negative aspects of Uranus with any Rune you know?

Do working to remove this. Freeing the soul working with Ansuz for example. Just use an affirmation that target what you want to be removed.

 

[Ĥl·lĥæ]

Do working to remove this. Freeing the soul working with Ansuz for example. Just use an affirmation that target what you want to be removed.

Thank you very much.
So I could get rid of illnesses and negative things on the planets regardless of which one it is.
How nice

 

[luis]

Do working to remove this. Freeing the soul working with Ansuz for example. Just use an affirmation that target what you want to be removed.

Thank you very much.
So I could get rid of illnesses and negative things on the planets regardless of which one it is.
How nice

Yes, just remember this could take more than 40 days, it depends on how much energy the spell needs, hoe much you do and how focused you are on the spell.

 

[Satanic Avenger 666]

Considering how we are given the sun's square but not uranus, pluto or neptune... Are these planets even more powerful than the sun?

It's a much simpler reason why there aren't squares for these planets: The squares are very ancient, from the time that the transcendental planets were not discovered yet. At that time when they used the squares for magick, they weren't aware of any other planets outside of Saturn.

The same with the Mantras. The Indians have planetary mantras for all the ancient planets up to Saturn as well as the North and South nodes (called Rahu and Ketu in Vedic Astrology, their mantras being AUM BHRAAM BHRIM BHRAUM SAU RAHUVE NAMA and AUM STRAAM STRIM STRAUM SAU KETUVE NAMA). But they don't have any mantras for the transcendental planets, again because these mantras are ancient.

 

[Schwarze Sonne]

No they aren't more powerful, they have energies that are more difficult to control and direct.

That's kind of sad since mu uranus is in the first house. Most of my planets are in 11⁰ and this limits me in an inexplicable way, as my communication with people is non-existent.
Can I control certain negative aspects of Uranus with any Rune you know?

DAGAZ has Uranus related qualities, you can use it to enhance the positive traits of that Planet. After a freeing the soul working, as Luis said.

 

[The Phantom Stranger]

It's a much simpler reason why there aren't squares for these planets: The squares are very ancient, from the time that the transcendental planets were not discovered yet. At that time when they used the squares for magick, they weren't aware of any other planets outside of Saturn.

The same with the Mantras. The Indians have planetary mantras for all the ancient planets up to Saturn as well as the North and South nodes (called Rahu and Ketu in Vedic Astrology, their mantras being AUM BHRAAM BHRIM BHRAUM SAU RAHUVE NAMA and AUM STRAAM STRIM STRAUM SAU KETUVE NAMA). But they don't have any mantras for the transcendental planets, again because these mantras are ancient.

Actually, that's wrong. Ancient civilizations were very advanced and had vast knowledge of astronomy. Science and spirituality go together, and they very well knew what Pluto, Uranus, and Neptune were. Read what Blitzkreig said here.

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This is not true. The energies involved were always known, and the runes and other mantras to express these energies have been present way before the modern discovery of these planets.

To remove negative karma from something, including our Plutonian energies, we use freeing workings, such as with Ansuz and Munka. Cleaning is similar to this.

To advance an aspect of ourselves, we can empower it with solar energy, or we can advance it with mantras like those of divine, Sanskrit, or runic origin.

In the case of Pluto, there are divine mantras like Aum Yamaya Nama/Svaha. In addition, the Eihwaz rune can also impart Plutonian benefits.

In regards to Uranus or Neptune, the runes which relate to these are Dagaz and Laguz. Mannaz also relates to the humanistic qualities seen with the Aquarius sign. I don't know any divine mantras off the top of my head, but I am sure some can be found.

SS should be mindful of the karma which can come from these planets, and many likely have placements involving these planets, due to their past with the occult. Negative aspects of Pluto and Neptune can bring trauma/fears, and delusions, respectively, as well as other things. It would be wise to learn about their astrological placement in one's chart.