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Woden said:
Does anyone have informed information of when Satan and the Goetic Gods came to Earth? It doesn't have to be exact...12k, 15k, 20k years ago?

No idea, likely over 200k years ago, because that's when the first humans were created.

Woden said:
What caused the schism or fallout between Satan and the evil Nordics (Archangels).

Disagreement on how to treat humanity. One side wanted to empower us and the other to enslave us.

Woden said:
Satan has been around for 500k years, did He know about the greys, reptilians before coming to Earth? If so, why wasn't He prepared with defensive weapons? If I was travelling around the galaxy with hostile aliens around, I would be in a starship bristling with weapons.

It's been said in the JoS site that all warfare in advanced worlds is spiritual. They fight using the powers of their minds. Physical weapons are useless against advanced beings. You can't fight the greys (or the Gods, for that matter) using a weapon. It's like trying to fight someone who has a gun with a spear or dagger.
 
Rational Satanist said:
It's been said in the JoS site that all warfare in advanced worlds is spiritual. They fight using the powers of their minds. Physical weapons are useless against advanced beings. You can't fight the greys (or the Gods, for that matter) using a weapon. It's like trying to fight someone who has a gun with a spear or dagger.

Highly advanced beings such as our Gods are not just not fighting physically but also fighting spiritually. These are the results of development and advancement.
 
Archangel is a title. It is used to refer to some thoughtforms that are used by lower-level occultists using enemy magick and low-tier rabbis. At higher levels, there are secret names that, rather than calling to the thoughtforms, reach out to Greys. At the highest level, top-tier rabbis reach out to Reptilians for help. No archangel is an enemy Nordic or a Nordic at all. The enemy does not have that kind of power on their side.

Notions about 'enemy Nordics' are outdated. I doubt enemy Nordics exist. They are most likely Greys posing as Nordics, as they do often to confuse abrahamics and New (c)Agers alike.

It was also recently explained that 'archangel' has a term is pretty young and used to be a rank within our Gods' hierarchy before it was stolen by the enemy.

Also, you can definitely fight Greys and Reptilians without the powers of the mind. Neither of them is as spiritually or technologically advanced as the Gods. The issue is that our tech is still primitive compared to both the Reptilian's tech and the Gods' tech. Obviously, even if had similar technological advancement to the Gods, they can kill us just by thinking about us dying, unlike the enemy who doesn't have that much power and advancement.

It is not your place or my place to question the Gods or events that happened in what is a distant past for humanity because:

:arrow: we are thousands of years of awareness and wisdom away from the Gods
:arrow: we don't even fully know what really happened, just the gist of it, if anything
 
Stormblood said:
Archangel is a title. It is used to refer to some thoughtforms that are used by lower-level occultists using enemy magick and low-tier rabbis. At higher levels, there are secret names that, rather than calling to the thoughtforms, reach out to Greys. At the highest level, top-tier rabbis reach out to Reptilians for help. No archangel is an enemy Nordic or a Nordic at all. The enemy does not have that kind of power on their side.

Notions about 'enemy Nordics' are outdated. I doubt enemy Nordics exist. They are most likely Greys posing as Nordics, as they do often to confuse abrahamics and New (c)Agers alike.

It was also recently explained that 'archangel' has a term is pretty young and used to be a rank within our Gods' hierarchy before it was stolen by the enemy.

Also, you can definitely fight Greys and Reptilians without the powers of the mind. Neither of them is as spiritually or technologically advanced as the Gods. The issue is that our tech is still primitive compared to both the Reptilian's tech and the Gods' tech. Obviously, even if had similar technological advancement to the Gods, they can kill us just by thinking about us dying, unlike the enemy who doesn't have that much power and advancement.

It is not your place or my place to question the Gods or events that happened in what is a distant past for humanity because:

:arrow: we are thousands of years of awareness and wisdom away from the Gods
:arrow: we don't even fully know what really happened, just the gist of it, if anything

"Enemy Nordics" as many people have experienced them are always said to be more powerful than the greys. They are different. They could be higher level greys though like what Alister Crowley drew in his picture of JHVH/Lam as he called it. They could be Reptilians or they could be some long ago borged human civilization the enemy won with. I don't think anyone really knows but I do doubt they were ever Gods with Satan before humans were created this whole story doesn't make sense. It sounds like the thing in the bible about some "angels" rebelling against others and siding with or against Satan.

These "enemy nordics" are literally able to shift into just about anything they want with both appearance and even energy on the astral. This means they could be just about anything we don't know for sure what they look like.

There have been people before fooled by them into believing they are one of the Gods they like to try to appear as God's and even seem to be able to mimic the energy of the Gods quite well. Except a perceptive person will know something is off and they really will try to avoid swearing to be of Satan they are very fearful to do that.

I do not think they have power anything like the Gods though they are very weak compared to them they are way more powerful than most humans though. That is the problem in dealing us dealing with them.
 
Well from what I read on the jos and threads is that most enemy Nordics are just thoughtforms, but theres actual enemy nordics who are real and quite powerful but not as powerful as the our demon god's!
 
Master said:
Rational Satanist said:
It's been said in the JoS site that all warfare in advanced worlds is spiritual. They fight using the powers of their minds. Physical weapons are useless against advanced beings. You can't fight the greys (or the Gods, for that matter) using a weapon. It's like trying to fight someone who has a gun with a spear or dagger.

Highly advanced beings such as our Gods are not just not fighting physically but also fighting spiritually. These are the results of development and advancement.

It seems that the translator did not translate very well what I wanted to say.

I meant to say that it is not that they do not fight physically, but they also fight spiritually.

In fact, the material is an important part of reality as well as the astral.
 
It is complicated, and it is true that we do not have complete data to paint the whole picture, but my guess is that extraterrestrial activity on this earth has been going on for quite some time, even before the Father Satan decided to create a Human from one of the Earth species by using His own blood. This planet has been under the watchful eye of several ET races for very, very long time.
 
slyscorpion said:
Stormblood said:
Archangel is a title. It is used to refer to some thoughtforms that are used by lower-level occultists using enemy magick and low-tier rabbis. At higher levels, there are secret names that, rather than calling to the thoughtforms, reach out to Greys. At the highest level, top-tier rabbis reach out to Reptilians for help. No archangel is an enemy Nordic or a Nordic at all. The enemy does not have that kind of power on their side.

Notions about 'enemy Nordics' are outdated. I doubt enemy Nordics exist. They are most likely Greys posing as Nordics, as they do often to confuse abrahamics and New (c)Agers alike.

It was also recently explained that 'archangel' has a term is pretty young and used to be a rank within our Gods' hierarchy before it was stolen by the enemy.

Also, you can definitely fight Greys and Reptilians without the powers of the mind. Neither of them is as spiritually or technologically advanced as the Gods. The issue is that our tech is still primitive compared to both the Reptilian's tech and the Gods' tech. Obviously, even if had similar technological advancement to the Gods, they can kill us just by thinking about us dying, unlike the enemy who doesn't have that much power and advancement.

It is not your place or my place to question the Gods or events that happened in what is a distant past for humanity because:

:arrow: we are thousands of years of awareness and wisdom away from the Gods
:arrow: we don't even fully know what really happened, just the gist of it, if anything

"Enemy Nordics" as many people have experienced them are always said to be more powerful than the greys. They are different. They could be higher level greys though like what Alister Crowley drew in his picture of JHVH/Lam as he called it. They could be Reptilians or they could be some long ago borged human civilization the enemy won with. I don't think anyone really knows but I do doubt they were ever Gods with Satan before humans were created this whole story doesn't make sense. It sounds like the thing in the bible about some "angels" rebelling against others and siding with or against Satan.

These "enemy nordics" are literally able to shift into just about anything they want with both appearance and even energy on the astral. This means they could be just about anything we don't know for sure what they look like.

There have been people before fooled by them into believing they are one of the Gods they like to try to appear as God's and even seem to be able to mimic the energy of the Gods quite well. Except a perceptive person will know something is off and they really will try to avoid swearing to be of Satan they are very fearful to do that.

I do not think they have power anything like the Gods though they are very weak compared to them they are way more powerful than most humans though. That is the problem in dealing us dealing with them.

Most likely, the so-called nordic enemies are other aliens like the greys, defeated and enslaved by the enemy empire.
 
Woden said:
Well, I was hoping to get more definitive answers. It seems I know as much as everyone else.

The reason I'm here is because of my interest in the Gods and meditation. I don't give jack shit about the jews and National Socialism.

Thanks anyway.

I have read the message you left on the moderation. I certainly do accept the apology. It's not uncommon that people who have a lot on their plate sometimes take it out on me or the board. Then there are also attacks that can facilitate this. Given the background you explained, I understand. Wish you good luck and hope you escape from all this cruelty.
 
Lightbringer07 said:
Well from what I read on the jos and threads is that most enemy Nordics are just thoughtforms, but theres actual enemy nordics who are real and quite powerful but not as powerful as the our demon god's!

There is no logical reason why any being in any decent civilization out there would side with a worthless race like the reptilians who are just civilization wreckers obsessed with making a borg race out of every intelligent civilization they come across and harvesting their soul's energies. Can you even think of a reason why anyone in a decent civilization like Satan's would side with the enemy? And what is so special about humanity that any God would side with reptilian scum against us? The truth is that many Nordics probably don't even turn an eye towards us and the few who do we know them as our Pagan Gods.

It makes sense so called Enemy Nordics are just the enemy pretending, same way they are known to impersonate Jesus. And if there is any such beings who look like the Nordics and work with reptilians they must be a degenerate parasitic race too.
 
Blackdragon666 said:
Lightbringer07 said:
Well from what I read on the jos and threads is that most enemy Nordics are just thoughtforms, but theres actual enemy nordics who are real and quite powerful but not as powerful as the our demon god's!

There is no logical reason why any being in any decent civilization out there would side with a worthless race like the reptilians who are just civilization wreckers obsessed with making a borg race out of every intelligent civilization they come across and harvesting their soul's energies. Can you even think of a reason why anyone in a decent civilization like Satan's would side with the enemy? And what is so special about humanity that any God would side with reptilian scum against us? The truth is that many Nordics probably don't even turn an eye towards us and the few who do we know them as our Pagan Gods.

It makes sense so called Enemy Nordics are just the enemy pretending, same way they are known to impersonate Jesus. And if there is any such beings who look like the Nordics and work with reptilians they must be a degenerate parasitic race too.

I remember someone showed a picture on here depicting some of the different alien races that were against us. There were some that looked mostly human like but not like the Nordics or us fully they were in a way ugly.

This is a mystery to me. The only way any race would side with the Reptilians is either if they are slaves of them (borged) or they are corrupt and parasitic themselves.

I wish Cobra would answer this but he probably has better things to do.

I do not think these are the same things as the greys at least the type of greys people most commonly deal with. I have been attacked by both before it's very different not to mention the color of the energy residue is very different too.

This is why I don't think this is the greys. I said there is a possibility it's the higher level greys I was attacked by one of those when I decided to do the rtr using a picture into one of the religious structures in Israel. That was a really scary experience (please don't do this I am not going to again) it is quite possible these higher level greys can appear as Nordics or anything they want. I got the same energy exact energy off that thing that I get when I saw stuff on the "plecedians"
 
Blackdragon666 said:
Lightbringer07 said:
Well from what I read on the jos and threads is that most enemy Nordics are just thoughtforms, but theres actual enemy nordics who are real and quite powerful but not as powerful as the our demon god's!

There is no logical reason why any being in any decent civilization out there would side with a worthless race like the reptilians who are just civilization wreckers obsessed with making a borg race out of every intelligent civilization they come across and harvesting their soul's energies. Can you even think of a reason why anyone in a decent civilization like Satan's would side with the enemy? And what is so special about humanity that any God would side with reptilian scum against us? The truth is that many Nordics probably don't even turn an eye towards us and the few who do we know them as our Pagan Gods.

It makes sense so called Enemy Nordics are just the enemy pretending, same way they are known to impersonate Jesus. And if there is any such beings who look like the Nordics and work with reptilians they must be a degenerate parasitic race too.

Yea, I couldn't wrap my head around why would some nordics side with a parasitic, soul fiening, flesh eating, downright buttfukin ,ugly shit face of a species who's only motive is to eat souls and turn every civilization they encounter into a hive mind.

IDK i cant be too certain if theres actual REAL enemy Nordics who are against us.
I mean when Satan designed our souls so that we too can become as the gods, other nordics where not to fond of that idea so they went against Satan and humanity.
what they wanted was for humanity to
stay inferior unto them. They didn't want humanity to reach the status of the gods. Now the question is why wouldn they let a civilization evolve has they did? Is it cuz of pride or fear that we may become a threat?
 
Woden said:
I asked this on another thread but would like to ask some questions that have been bothering me for some time. I would appreciate if you tried to answer all of them.

Does anyone have informed information of when Satan and the Goetic Gods came to Earth? It doesn't have to be exact...12k, 15k, 20k years ago?

What caused the schism or fallout between Satan and the evil Nordics (Archangels).

Satan has been around for 500k years, did He know about the greys, reptilians before coming to Earth? If so, why wasn't He prepared with defensive weapons? If I was travelling around the galaxy with hostile aliens around, I would be in a starship bristling with weapons.

Thank you

I'm sure Satan knew about the Greys and Reptilian before coming to Earth. He and the Powers of Hell were outnumbered at the time.
That's why they lost the battle.
 
Recently it was mentioned to me by my Guardian that there are humans throughout the Universe, with more advanced technology and they are generally more advanced spiritually too. It is not just Earth that is populated with humans.

There are ET beings that are able to project an illusion at you and make you see one thing when really they look like something else. This seems like a basic thing for them, easy as breathing.

Like they will look at you with a calm face (projection) but really they are mad (reality.) They also can keep their emotions and the energy around them as calm, or even friendly, but really they might resent and dislike you a great deal. (Which is what I experienced with tall 7 foot Greys, with larger heads and for some reason they wear robes with high collars.)
You can feel it underneath, that something is off.

Or they have an ugly face and bad skin and project themselves as handsome and smooth-skinned.
It's no effort for them to do so.

There are other races of Nordics other than the one that Satan is. One race of them are also tall, with long golden hair, golden eyes and a light tan. They are humanoid and also telepathically communicate with each other. They haven't spoken out loud to me but body language seems universal everywhere.
These seem to be of the enemy (Intergalactic Federation).

Another race of Nordics have smaller eyes, with an eye shape like ~
The ones I interacted with had white skin, blonde hair (either wavy, curly or straight) and blue eyes of varying degrees.
They spoke English fluently with me.

The Nagas are also an ET race.

There are other ET races where they might have dark skin, or horns, and wings. Or give off a great deal of light, as if they were made of the sun.
Some have phalluses that are not smooth (like human men's) but are barbed. They can tuck the barbs in to make the phallus smooth or have they stick out (when they showed me, because I'm female)
They astral projected into my room and I could see them very clearly and in detail. Their energy is different.

I don't know (although I could probably look it up) why humans on Earth have square shaped Chiclet gum teeth and floppy pink beaver tail tongues. The ETs have sharp, pointed teeth and a lot of them. Some of them have brown, pointy and long tongues.

That's all I can think of at this time, from my experiences that I can share openly.
 
slyscorpion said:
Blackdragon666 said:
Lightbringer07 said:
Well from what I read on the jos and threads is that most enemy Nordics are just thoughtforms, but theres actual enemy nordics who are real and quite powerful but not as powerful as the our demon god's!

There is no logical reason why any being in any decent civilization out there would side with a worthless race like the reptilians who are just civilization wreckers obsessed with making a borg race out of every intelligent civilization they come across and harvesting their soul's energies. Can you even think of a reason why anyone in a decent civilization like Satan's would side with the enemy? And what is so special about humanity that any God would side with reptilian scum against us? The truth is that many Nordics probably don't even turn an eye towards us and the few who do we know them as our Pagan Gods.

It makes sense so called Enemy Nordics are just the enemy pretending, same way they are known to impersonate Jesus. And if there is any such beings who look like the Nordics and work with reptilians they must be a degenerate parasitic race too.

This is a mystery to me. The only way any race would side with the Reptilians is either if they are slaves of them (borged) or they are corrupt and parasitic themselves.
Exactly.
 
Woden said:
magus.immortalis said:

Really great reply. Thanks to you and everyone else.

As has been said here, the universe has potential to be just about anything. It's up to conscious beings to decide if it's for good or bad.

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Thank you! And, you're welcome. :)
 
Woden said:
magus.immortalis said:

Really great reply. Thanks to you and everyone else.

As has been said here, the universe has potential to be just about anything. It's up to conscious beings to decide if it's for good or bad.

Nordic-alien.jpg


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Without a doubt is up to the individual to decipher whether the ET is malevolent or benevolent, knowing thats theres probably thousands upon thousands of alien races all through out the galaxy is insane!

Yet most humans are still living in nutshell thinking we are the only species in the vast of the universe. SMH!

Also I have feeling theres other races of aliens who are dedicated to Satan other than the nordics for example lucifige Rofocale or some lyrans, beings who resemble cats and lions. It's rather interesting if u ask me.
 
So, out of all of this, do we as Satanists come from the line of Nordics ? Are there really "enemy nordics", or are they just the reptilians screwing with us and the rest of the races ?
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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