About Venus magical square

[Antichrist]

Hello there!

I want to attract the perfect girlfriend to me and as far as i know venus is exalted in pisces right now and this is the perfect time to start the venus mantra. Which one should I choose for this purpose:

- Kabalistic/Magickal Square of Venus for empowering chakras, strengthening a debilitated Venus, and for help in health and overall spiritual advancement related to Venus

OR

- Kabalistic/Magickal Square of Venus for mater prosperity, and earthly [nonial success, spiritual] affairs 21 ???

Thanks in advance

Hail Satan!!!

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

Hello there!

I want to attract the perfect girlfriend to me and as far as i know venus is exalted in pisces right now and this is the perfect time to start the venus mantra. Which one should I choose for this purpose:

Material, because the energy is facilitating the events around you that will bring such a person to you.

Spiritual could be used in a similar manner to permanently augment your ability to have a sucessful relationship, for example. This would be more of a long-term thing that could also lead to finding a good partner, but it is not as direct as the material square.

Another example is that a strong natal Sun will bring wealth over one's lifetime, yet a material square will give a more direct, perhaps immediate amount.

Make sure, for any of these things, you don't have significant karmic obstacles. The working could still be successful, but there may be some backlashing events before your final goal is obtained.

 

[Antichrist]

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Hello there!

I want to attract the perfect girlfriend to me and as far as i know venus is exalted in pisces right now and this is the perfect time to start the venus mantra. Which one should I choose for this purpose:

Material, because the energy is facilitating the events around you that will bring such a person to you.

Spiritual could be used in a similar manner to permanently augment your ability to have a sucessful relationship, for example. This would be more of a long-term thing that could also lead to finding a good partner, but it is not as direct as the material square.

Another example is that a strong natal Sun will bring wealth over one's lifetime, yet a material square will give a more direct, perhaps immediate amount.

Make sure, for any of these things, you don't have significant karmic obstacles. The working could still be successful, but there may be some backlashing events before your final goal is obtained.

Thanks for the answer!

I have two more questions:

1) Can I do both squares ( for spiritual and material purposes) simultaneously?

2) How can I find out if I have karmic obstacles or not?
By the way, these days I'm doing Uruz to free my soul from love ties of past lives.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

1) Can I do both squares ( for spiritual and material purposes) simultaneously?

No, it will not work. The numbers would be wrong because you would be doing it too many times.

 

[GoldenxChild1]

1) Can I do both squares ( for spiritual and material purposes) simultaneously?

No, it will not work. The numbers would be wrong because you would be doing it too many times.

I believe HPC said that fundamentally there is no issue with this on the square FAQ thread. Maybe I misinterpreted though.

 

[Henu the Great]

1) Can I do both squares ( for spiritual and material purposes) simultaneously?

No, it will not work. The numbers would be wrong because you would be doing it too many times.

Those can be done, but not literally the same time.

Spiritual square *pause* material square works

 

[darkmonkey666]

1) Can I do both squares ( for spiritual and material purposes) simultaneously?

No, it will not work. The numbers would be wrong because you would be doing it too many times.

Those can be done, but not literally the same time.

Spiritual square *pause* material square works

If you do it i would think the Goals should be different too.

 

[Henu the Great]

No, it will not work. The numbers would be wrong because you would be doing it too many times.

Those can be done, but not literally the same time.

Spiritual square *pause* material square works

If you do it i would think the Goals should be different too.

Yes, different affirmations.

 

[luis]

1) Can I do both squares ( for spiritual and material purposes) simultaneously?

No, it will not work. The numbers would be wrong because you would be doing it too many times.

It will work. Hp said it can be done. As long as you don't do it back to back and with different affirmations.

 

[Antichrist]

Those can be done, but not literally the same time.

Spiritual square *pause* material square works

If you do it i would think the Goals should be different too.

Yes, different affirmations.

I wanted to ask about visualizing a goal and directing energy towards it .

I understand when there is a specific goal, such as a car and or money. In this case, I visualize the desired car or money and direct energy towards them by stating affirmations.

But I'm not sure how to visualize when the goal is more abstract, like when I want to attract a perfect partner in my life that I want to spend the rest of my life with, or like when I want to use the sun squares to help me choose the most suitable career path for me. How should I visualize my goal in this case ( a perfect partner and a career path) ???

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

He said something like it could be done, but I still do not agree with that. Most of all people don't have anywhere near the level of control that he has, and I don't believe that most people could sucessfully do two squares for the same planet like this. Just because Cobra says that it is hypothetically possible for something to work for someone in some specific situation, does not mean that it is realistic or that it would work for everybody.

It is the same mantra for both of them, just with the very small difference of Svaha or Nama. I don't believe that the difference between Svaha and Nama is large enough of a difference to make it like two completely seperate mantras, so I think both would be counted together and would ruin the number for the square. Maybe Cobra is able to keep these energies seperated, but think to ensure they are seperated it would take an enormous level of focus and concentration on seperating them that most people don't have. Basically visualizing and affirming throughout the entire process that the energies are seperated, and if someone doesn't focus that much, then maybe they will go together. I don't think this is a good solution because I think all of the focus of the visualisations and affirmations should be for the result that you want the square to have.

Also it just makes it very easy for mistakes to be made. And the Venus square is very long, so it would be real bad if someone gets all the way close to the end then makes a mistake. By doing the squares, you get in the habit of saying the same mantra every day. So if you are saying the same mantra twice with both Svaha and Nama, you will have the habit of saying it both ways. And when it is time to do the Nama mantra that day, you may start saying Svaha instead. Which means that you would have done the Svaha mantra the incorrect number of times because of accidentally doing extra.


Basically I see many ways for this to fail, and I only see one very difficult and probably unrealistic way for it to not fail. And I do not want anybody to waste their time or waste an opportunity. So I will always recommend to just do one square, and pick the one that would be better for you. Or I will recommend some people to do two squares for two different planets, because they are different enough to prevent most problems.

 

[Henu the Great]

You make valid points, but at the same time what is this, kindergarden? Come on, if anyone is going to make two squares of the same planet at the same time it's probably someone who can do them and above arguments do not apply, or someone experimenting and thus, learning. I would encourage everyone to experiment and learn.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

You forget that many of the people here are new and inexperienced, and this might even be the first time doing a square. And it is very easy to make a mistake.

I want people to be successful. I would prefer anybody to successfully do one square instead of failing to do two and ruining both of them.

And anybody is allowed to try to do anything. Me saying the reasons why I think it is a bad idea is not going to make it so nobody tries anything.

 

[Antichrist]

You forget that many of the people here are new and inexperienced, and this might even be the first time doing a square. And it is very easy to make a mistake.

I want people to be successful. I would prefer anybody to successfully do one square instead of failing to do two and ruining both of them.

And anybody is allowed to try to do anything. Me saying the reasons why I think it is a bad idea is not going to make it so nobody tries anything.

Can I do two or three squares for different planets together?? These days I'm doing Sun square together with Venus square and I'm going to start Mercury square on the 30th of April.

 

[Henu the Great]

The discussion began about the possibility of doing such thing, the ability to do it is another matter.

 

[luis]

You forget that many of the people here are new and inexperienced, and this might even be the first time doing a square. And it is very easy to make a mistake.

I want people to be successful. I would prefer anybody to successfully do one square instead of failing to do two and ruining both of them.

And anybody is allowed to try to do anything. Me saying the reasons why I think it is a bad idea is not going to make it so nobody tries anything.

Well you can't say it can't be done when you know it can. You just have to put a disclaimer that is difficult. Everyone needs to experiment or they will never learn.

 

[darkmonkey666]

He said something like it could be done, but I still do not agree with that. Most of all people don't have anywhere near the level of control that he has, and I don't believe that most people could sucessfully do two squares for the same planet like this. Just because Cobra says that it is hypothetically possible for something to work for someone in some specific situation, does not mean that it is realistic or that it would work for everybody.

It is the same mantra for both of them, just with the very small difference of Svaha or Nama. I don't believe that the difference between Svaha and Nama is large enough of a difference to make it like two completely seperate mantras, so I think both would be counted together and would ruin the number for the square. Maybe Cobra is able to keep these energies seperated, but think to ensure they are seperated it would take an enormous level of focus and concentration on seperating them that most people don't have. Basically visualizing and affirming throughout the entire process that the energies are seperated, and if someone doesn't focus that much, then maybe they will go together. I don't think this is a good solution because I think all of the focus of the visualisations and affirmations should be for the result that you want the square to have.

Also it just makes it very easy for mistakes to be made. And the Venus square is very long, so it would be real bad if someone gets all the way close to the end then makes a mistake. By doing the squares, you get in the habit of saying the same mantra every day. So if you are saying the same mantra twice with both Svaha and Nama, you will have the habit of saying it both ways. And when it is time to do the Nama mantra that day, you may start saying Svaha instead. Which means that you would have done the Svaha mantra the incorrect number of times because of accidentally doing extra.


Basically I see many ways for this to fail, and I only see one very difficult and probably unrealistic way for it to not fail. And I do not want anybody to waste their time or waste an opportunity. So I will always recommend to just do one square, and pick the one that would be better for you. Or I will recommend some people to do two squares for two different planets, because they are different enough to prevent most problems.

Maxine directly stated that Before a hard Saturn Transit both the spiritual and material should be done of a square to strengthen the planet and offset this. This implies someone doing both with some of the longer squares cause most times these days if someone is looking up stuff on a transit of Saturn or something its cause its very close to happening or they already have problems and effects from it. So a person wouldnt have time to do both seperately at least in home sign or exalted of that planet cause the longer squares are the faster moving planets.

So yeah i think it can be done if done how stated. It does not ruin the square totally i dont believe if people do them seperate by a little time at least.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

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Basically I see many ways for this to fail, and I only see one very difficult and probably unrealistic way for it to not fail. And I do not want anybody to waste their time or waste an opportunity. So I will always recommend to just do one square, and pick the one that would be better for you. Or I will recommend some people to do two squares for two different planets, because they are different enough to prevent most problems.

These are valid concerns. I would need someone more open than me to actually judge how hard this would be. Personally, I feel like it could be done if one takes their time at visualizing a separate material and spiritual square energy in their head. I don't want to just go based on my own optimism, however.

Using the Master Squares app can help keep some degree of focus, as far as tracking which mantra to use.

Otherwise, I guess the better option would be to do one working as a Square, then fulfill your 2nd goal using runes, starting on a similar date.

As far as wasting time or whatever, I think for most people there is no shortage of work to do. Through proper planning, we should be able to avoid situations where we HAVE to do 2 squares at once. However, I know sometimes people's situations can be bad, yet it would be equally bad to fail both squares...

 

[darkmonkey666]

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Basically I see many ways for this to fail, and I only see one very difficult and probably unrealistic way for it to not fail. And I do not want anybody to waste their time or waste an opportunity. So I will always recommend to just do one square, and pick the one that would be better for you. Or I will recommend some people to do two squares for two different planets, because they are different enough to prevent most problems.

These are valid concerns. I would need someone more open than me to actually judge how hard this would be. Personally, I feel like it could be done if one takes their time at visualizing a separate material and spiritual square energy in their head. I don't want to just go based on my own optimism, however.

Using the Master Squares app can help keep some degree of focus, as far as tracking which mantra to use.

Otherwise, I guess the better option would be to do one working as a Square, then fulfill your 2nd goal using runes, starting on a similar date.

As far as wasting time or whatever, I think for most people there is no shortage of work to do. Through proper planning, we should be able to avoid situations where we HAVE to do 2 squares at once. However, I know sometimes people's situations can be bad, yet it would be equally bad to fail both squares...

If someone wants to try this the shorter square of Jupiter would be a good thing to try out with it and gauge how it works. Even if its messed up its much less waste. If they like it the try on the longer ones.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

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Yeah, that is a good idea. I would even take it a step further and say try it when the planet is out of an ideal sign, yet not in a detrimental one, of course. That way there isn't a big loss of potential or anything.

 

[darkmonkey666]

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Basically I see many ways for this to fail, and I only see one very difficult and probably unrealistic way for it to not fail. And I do not want anybody to waste their time or waste an opportunity. So I will always recommend to just do one square, and pick the one that would be better for you. Or I will recommend some people to do two squares for two different planets, because they are different enough to prevent most problems.

These are valid concerns. I would need someone more open than me to actually judge how hard this would be. Personally, I feel like it could be done if one takes their time at visualizing a separate material and spiritual square energy in their head. I don't want to just go based on my own optimism, however.

Using the Master Squares app can help keep some degree of focus, as far as tracking which mantra to use.

Otherwise, I guess the better option would be to do one working as a Square, then fulfill your 2nd goal using runes, starting on a similar date.

As far as wasting time or whatever, I think for most people there is no shortage of work to do. Through proper planning, we should be able to avoid situations where we HAVE to do 2 squares at once. However, I know sometimes people's situations can be bad, yet it would be equally bad to fail both squares...

If someone wants to try this the shorter square of Jupiter would be a good thing to try out with it and gauge how it works. Even if its messed up its much less waste. If they like it the try on the longer ones.

I expect Jupiter working to be at least ok in Aries and Taurus and at critical points is a good time to do this working. Especially 0 Aries. I think Jupiter taurus is good for money workings. I was going to keep doing the working sometimes anyways but good point.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

I expect Jupiter working to be at least ok in Aries and Taurus and at critical points is a good time to do this working. Especially 0 Aries. I think Jupiter taurus is good for money workings. I was going to keep doing the working sometimes anyways but good point.

Due to the power of squares, I think it would be very useful to explore their usability outside of their normal, preferred signs.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think such squares would work out ok, as long as not in detrimental signs. The only thing that I think may make a difference, compared to similar runic energies, would be that the planetary energies could be more "raw". However, I am not certain.

If this is not the case, and they would work out just fine, then it would make sense to make use of squares whenever it is possible to substitute them for a normal working.

Good examples of what I mean are like what you mentioned, as well as something like a Mercury in Scorpio square, Mercury in cancer for memory or perception, Mars in Virgo for productivity, any other non-detrimental Mars Square if a good purpose is found, same with Sun Squares...

 

[darkmonkey666]

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I expect Jupiter working to be at least ok in Aries and Taurus and at critical points is a good time to do this working. Especially 0 Aries. I think Jupiter taurus is good for money workings. I was going to keep doing the working sometimes anyways but good point.

Due to the power of squares, I think it would be very useful to explore their usability outside of their normal, preferred signs.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think such squares would work out ok, as long as not in detrimental signs. The only thing that I think may make a difference, compared to similar runic energies, would be that the planetary energies could be more "raw". However, I am not certain.

If this is not the case, and they would work out just fine, then it would make sense to make use of squares whenever it is possible to substitute them for a normal working.

Good examples of what I mean are like what you mentioned, as well as something like a Mercury in Scorpio square, Mercury in cancer for memory or perception, Mars in Virgo for productivity, any other non-detrimental Mars Square if a good purpose is found, same with Sun Squares...

They are fine in other signs outside Detriment or fall. Jupiter wasn't great in Aquarius I tried it barley felt it. But that doesn't surprise me Aquarius exalts Mercury the planet Jupiter has Detriment and fall in. Experimentation would be good. Suns exalt degree and Saturns fall degree also may be a good point to do it. 18 and 21 Aries. I am not sure but I will experiment. I do expect Aries to be better than Taurus so far as power as Jupiter has more affinity for Fire element.

But anyways as long as it's not saying something on the JOS page about "this is almost as bad as Detriment or fall and can act like Mars Libra" something along those lines was said about Mars Pieces I did try the square there. I stopped a about 10 days in cause I felt like it was weakening my Mars actually but nothing bad happened. Also Sun Pisces is not good either it says on the JOS page this is the weakest sign and yeah it is next to Aquarius you don't feel much difference in power.

So some signs are bad some are better. Mars Leo actually was the best one outside home and exalt for power.

So far as sun Virgo is the best sign for power outside home and exalt only a little weaker than leo. This makes sense it's opposite of Pisces and no Mars Aquarius isn't great for the square either it feels weak.

Jupiter Leo with Sun in Cancer Pisces and Sagittarius actually was quite good for the Square in my memory.

I am just giving examples of stuff I know. As Mercury has affinity for air Mercury libra is good for it I am sure.

Saturn Gemini and Virgo should be powerful with.

Ok I listed what I can know outside of this experiments are good.

 

[darkmonkey666]

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I expect Jupiter working to be at least ok in Aries and Taurus and at critical points is a good time to do this working. Especially 0 Aries. I think Jupiter taurus is good for money workings. I was going to keep doing the working sometimes anyways but good point.

Due to the power of squares, I think it would be very useful to explore their usability outside of their normal, preferred signs.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think such squares would work out ok, as long as not in detrimental signs. The only thing that I think may make a difference, compared to similar runic energies, would be that the planetary energies could be more "raw". However, I am not certain.

If this is not the case, and they would work out just fine, then it would make sense to make use of squares whenever it is possible to substitute them for a normal working.

Good examples of what I mean are like what you mentioned, as well as something like a Mercury in Scorpio square, Mercury in cancer for memory or perception, Mars in Virgo for productivity, any other non-detrimental Mars Square if a good purpose is found, same with Sun Squares...

They are fine in other signs outside Detriment or fall. Jupiter wasn't great in Aquarius I tried it barley felt it. But that doesn't surprise me Aquarius exalts Mercury the planet Jupiter has Detriment and fall in. Experimentation would be good. Suns exalt degree and Saturns fall degree also may be a good point to do it. 18 and 21 Aries. I am not sure but I will experiment. I do expect Aries to be better than Taurus so far as power as Jupiter has more affinity for Fire element.

But anyways as long as it's not saying something on the JOS page about "this is almost as bad as Detriment or fall and can act like Mars Libra" something along those lines was said about Mars Pieces I did try the square there. I stopped a about 10 days in cause I felt like it was weakening my Mars actually but nothing bad happened. Also Sun Pisces is not good either it says on the JOS page this is the weakest sign and yeah it is next to Aquarius you don't feel much difference in power.

So some signs are bad some are better. Mars Leo actually was the best one outside home and exalt for power.

So far as sun Virgo is the best sign for power outside home and exalt only a little weaker than leo. This makes sense it's opposite of Pisces and no Mars Aquarius isn't great for the square either it feels weak.

Jupiter Leo with Sun in Cancer Pisces and Sagittarius actually was quite good for the Square in my memory.

I am just giving examples of stuff I know. As Mercury has affinity for air Mercury libra is good for it I am sure.

Saturn Gemini and Virgo should be powerful with.

Ok I listed what I can know outside of this experiments are good.

I will btw in about 3 years remind people of Jupiters exalt degree. This will be wonderful for the workings. I remember it was around 6 Cancer. It became artificially powerful and glowed with energy on that degree. At 0 Cancer it's energy litterally had gold color I remember in it.

 

[Shadowcat]

He said something like it could be done, but I still do not agree with that. Most of all people don't have anywhere near the level of control that he has, and I don't believe that most people could sucessfully do two squares for the same planet like this. Just because Cobra says that it is hypothetically possible for something to work for someone in some specific situation, does not mean that it is realistic or that it would work for everybody.

It is the same mantra for both of them, just with the very small difference of Svaha or Nama. I don't believe that the difference between Svaha and Nama is large enough of a difference to make it like two completely seperate mantras, so I think both would be counted together and would ruin the number for the square. Maybe Cobra is able to keep these energies seperated, but think to ensure they are seperated it would take an enormous level of focus and concentration on seperating them that most people don't have. Basically visualizing and affirming throughout the entire process that the energies are seperated, and if someone doesn't focus that much, then maybe they will go together. I don't think this is a good solution because I think all of the focus of the visualisations and affirmations should be for the result that you want the square to have.

Also it just makes it very easy for mistakes to be made. And the Venus square is very long, so it would be real bad if someone gets all the way close to the end then makes a mistake. By doing the squares, you get in the habit of saying the same mantra every day. So if you are saying the same mantra twice with both Svaha and Nama, you will have the habit of saying it both ways. And when it is time to do the Nama mantra that day, you may start saying Svaha instead. Which means that you would have done the Svaha mantra the incorrect number of times because of accidentally doing extra.


Basically I see many ways for this to fail, and I only see one very difficult and probably unrealistic way for it to not fail. And I do not want anybody to waste their time or waste an opportunity. So I will always recommend to just do one square, and pick the one that would be better for you. Or I will recommend some people to do two squares for two different planets, because they are different enough to prevent most problems.

Bigot Boys master square app is the shit. I completed a moon square without any problems. I am doing a material venus square now while also doing the short version of the spiritual mantra at a different hour of venus for the day with affirmations for increasing beauty and aesthetics.

 

[Henu the Great]

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Bigot Boys master square app is the shit. I completed a moon square without any problems. I am doing a material venus square now while also doing the short version of the spiritual mantra at a different hour of venus for the day with affirmations for increasing beauty and aesthetics.

Another trick is to take cards or pieces of paper or something similar to the count of the day and just move them from one pile to another for as many repetitions there are for the day. No need to make things any more complicated than they are.

 

[NinRick]

1) Can I do both squares ( for spiritual and material purposes) simultaneously?

No, it will not work. The numbers would be wrong because you would be doing it too many times.

Something inside me tells me that by doing so the power of the squares would dip significantly. Just my gut feeling. I stick to one Square at a time, and use my full attention and power on that one while doing it.

 

[luis]

1) Can I do both squares ( for spiritual and material purposes) simultaneously?

No, it will not work. The numbers would be wrong because you would be doing it too many times.

Something inside me tells me that by doing so the power of the squares would dip significantly. Just my gut feeling. I stick to one Square at a time, and use my full attention and power on that one while doing it.

It depends on how you use it, if you use the spiritual square to empower and then the material to manifest something then I don't see how both square would be less powerful. Not to say its easy to do two square like this but it's not impossible, again Hoodedcobra said so and I trust him.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

1) Can I do both squares ( for spiritual and material purposes) simultaneously?

No, it will not work. The numbers would be wrong because you would be doing it too many times.

Something inside me tells me that by doing so the power of the squares would dip significantly. Just my gut feeling. I stick to one Square at a time, and use my full attention and power on that one while doing it.

Yes. You can't just say "It does work" just because some effect is felt buy it. That does not mean that it is a square, or that the squares are not ruined. Because doing any kind of working for that many days, there will be an effect felt buy it. But this may be extremely small compared to the effect of a correct square.

 

[GoldenxChild1]

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Bigot Boys master square app is the shit. I completed a moon square without any problems. I am doing a material venus square now while also doing the short version of the spiritual mantra at a different hour of venus for the day with affirmations for increasing beauty and aesthetics.

Another trick is to take cards or pieces of paper or something similar to the count of the day and just move them from one pile to another for as many repetitions there are for the day. No need to make things any more complicated than they are.

I just use a calculator but I like that idea too.

 

[NinRick]

No, it will not work. The numbers would be wrong because you would be doing it too many times.

Something inside me tells me that by doing so the power of the squares would dip significantly. Just my gut feeling. I stick to one Square at a time, and use my full attention and power on that one while doing it.

It depends on how you use it, if you use the spiritual square to empower and then the material to manifest something then I don't see how both square would be less powerful. Not to say its easy to do two square like this but it's not impossible, again Hoodedcobra said so and I trust him.

Hmm, I have no clue, and I do trust Cobra as well. But I do not fully know how he meant it.

But what you said is very interesting.

I have no experience with doing 2 squares at once, however I can give you something else.

Once I did a Venus square, so I grow more attractive.
I finished it, and only around 2 or 3 days, I started a Sun Square, (actually to invoke fire).

Well as a result, I gained within 9 months or so 26kgs, mostly in muscle mass. I jumped from around 66-68kgs to around 92-93kg.

Since then I had the theory that the Venus squares energies still were around but didn’t manifest, while I started a Sun square and those somehow mingled together. Because Venus = beauty and Sun = Vitality/Muscles.
Men with muscles are attractive.

Fun fact, people thought I was on steroids or something.

 

[luis]

Something inside me tells me that by doing so the power of the squares would dip significantly. Just my gut feeling. I stick to one Square at a time, and use my full attention and power on that one while doing it.

It depends on how you use it, if you use the spiritual square to empower and then the material to manifest something then I don't see how both square would be less powerful. Not to say its easy to do two square like this but it's not impossible, again Hoodedcobra said so and I trust him.

Hmm, I have no clue, and I do trust Cobra as well. But I do not fully know how he meant it.

But what you said is very interesting.

I have no experience with doing 2 squares at once, however I can give you something else.

Once I did a Venus square, so I grow more attractive.
I finished it, and only around 2 or 3 days, I started a Sun Square, (actually to invoke fire).

Well as a result, I gained within 9 months or so 26kgs, mostly in muscle mass. I jumped from around 66-68kgs to around 92-93kg.

Since then I had the theory that the Venus squares energies still were around but didn’t manifest, while I started a Sun square and those somehow mingled together. Because Venus = beauty and Sun = Vitality/Muscles.
Men with muscles are attractive.

Fun fact, people thought I was on steroids or something.

Well spell in general do manifest fully after many days, especially big changes like muscles. The Sun square used to increase fire may have helped with muscles too. Doing both the material and spiritual square togheter can be done, it's just a bit complicated because you can get confused and get both wrong.

 

[NinRick]

It depends on how you use it, if you use the spiritual square to empower and then the material to manifest something then I don't see how both square would be less powerful. Not to say its easy to do two square like this but it's not impossible, again Hoodedcobra said so and I trust him.

Hmm, I have no clue, and I do trust Cobra as well. But I do not fully know how he meant it.

But what you said is very interesting.

I have no experience with doing 2 squares at once, however I can give you something else.

Once I did a Venus square, so I grow more attractive.
I finished it, and only around 2 or 3 days, I started a Sun Square, (actually to invoke fire).

Well as a result, I gained within 9 months or so 26kgs, mostly in muscle mass. I jumped from around 66-68kgs to around 92-93kg.

Since then I had the theory that the Venus squares energies still were around but didn’t manifest, while I started a Sun square and those somehow mingled together. Because Venus = beauty and Sun = Vitality/Muscles.
Men with muscles are attractive.

Fun fact, people thought I was on steroids or something.

Well spell in general do manifest fully after many days, especially big changes like muscles. The Sun square used to increase fire may have helped with muscles too. Doing both the material and spiritual square togheter can be done, it's just a bit complicated because you can get confused and get both wrong.

Oh damn, I forgot if I did a material or spiritual Venus square, I believe it was a Spiritual.

For me Jupiter Square both material and spiritual manifested while I was doing them

 

[GoldenxChild1]

I'm doing a material Venus and and a spiritual Sun square. We can do different squares at the same time and theoretically two squares for the same planet at the same time, i.e., material and spiritual. I wouldn't attempt to do that myself but I also don't think we should be telling members "not" to do it but warn them of the difficulties.

 

[Quel_tizio]

Something inside me tells me that by doing so the power of the squares would dip significantly. Just my gut feeling. I stick to one Square at a time, and use my full attention and power on that one while doing it.

It depends on how you use it, if you use the spiritual square to empower and then the material to manifest something then I don't see how both square would be less powerful. Not to say its easy to do two square like this but it's not impossible, again Hoodedcobra said so and I trust him.

Hmm, I have no clue, and I do trust Cobra as well. But I do not fully know how he meant it.

But what you said is very interesting.

I have no experience with doing 2 squares at once, however I can give you something else.

Once I did a Venus square, so I grow more attractive.
I finished it, and only around 2 or 3 days, I started a Sun Square, (actually to invoke fire).

Well as a result, I gained within 9 months or so 26kgs, mostly in muscle mass. I jumped from around 66-68kgs to around 92-93kg.

Since then I had the theory that the Venus squares energies still were around but didn’t manifest, while I started a Sun square and those somehow mingled together. Because Venus = beauty and Sun = Vitality/Muscles.
Men with muscles are attractive.

Fun fact, people thought I was on steroids or something.

what affirmation did you use for both squares?

 

[NinRick]

It depends on how you use it, if you use the spiritual square to empower and then the material to manifest something then I don't see how both square would be less powerful. Not to say its easy to do two square like this but it's not impossible, again Hoodedcobra said so and I trust him.

Hmm, I have no clue, and I do trust Cobra as well. But I do not fully know how he meant it.

But what you said is very interesting.

I have no experience with doing 2 squares at once, however I can give you something else.

Once I did a Venus square, so I grow more attractive.
I finished it, and only around 2 or 3 days, I started a Sun Square, (actually to invoke fire).

Well as a result, I gained within 9 months or so 26kgs, mostly in muscle mass. I jumped from around 66-68kgs to around 92-93kg.

Since then I had the theory that the Venus squares energies still were around but didn’t manifest, while I started a Sun square and those somehow mingled together. Because Venus = beauty and Sun = Vitality/Muscles.
Men with muscles are attractive.

Fun fact, people thought I was on steroids or something.

what affirmation did you use for both squares?

I have no clue brother, it was in 2019.