Family #76757 told my father that I am a Satanist

[AskSatanOperator]

Hello, I told my father that I am a Satanist, he is generally not against it. But now it is the topic of the day. How can I change the subject carefully? He does not scold me but constantly asks stupid questions "Does Satan make me happy? etc. It irritates me a little and I would like to change the subject but I don't know how. Any advice is welcome. Once I told him that I tried weed and mushrooms and it was the topic of the whole year. I am very bad at keeping secrets, even though I read the recommendations on the site =)
By the way, maybe he will read this post.
But even more I would like to know how to deal with different opinions of people, for example, I can get very upset if someone tells me, for example, that my dreams are stupid or my work is worthless even though I put a lot of effort into it, or I can get offended even by a joke or I don’t understand jokes at all, sorry, this is a long post, but I need to figure this out.

 

[Tethys333]

Hello, I told my father that I am a Satanist, he is generally not against it. But now it is the topic of the day. How can I change the subject carefully? He does not scold me but constantly asks stupid questions "Does Satan make me happy? etc. It irritates me a little and I would like to change the subject but I don't know how. Any advice is welcome. Once I told him that I tried weed and mushrooms and it was the topic of the whole year. I am very bad at keeping secrets, even though I read the recommendations on the site =)
By the way, maybe he will read this post.
But even more I would like to know how to deal with different opinions of people, for example, I can get very upset if someone tells me, for example, that my dreams are stupid or my work is worthless even though I put a lot of effort into it, or I can get offended even by a joke or I don’t understand jokes at all, sorry, this is a long post, but I need to figure this out.

Despite our changes and evolutions, I personally would wait to tell everyone openly about my nature as a Zevist.
Don't tell the first person who walks by that you are a Zevist precisely because you don't know how they might take it. And since there is so much ignorance in the world you don't know what might happen.
That is one of the reasons why we don't call ourselves Joy of Satanas anymore, precisely because there is so much ignorance and Jewish influence around.
If you can and if it works, don't open that discussion with him anymore. Otherwise pretend and tell him you are not anymore.

 

[GoldenxChild1]

I don't know if you missed the update, but you are a Zevist, not a Satanist.

From the information you provided, it seems your father is rather curious if anything, so try to understand his curiosity instead of being annoyed by it—he is not in the wrong. You should consider yourself fortunate that his reaction was as it was.

If you don't want to talk about it anymore with him, tell him you will chat about it later when you understand more about the Path of the Gods.

It is natural to feel offended when someone doesn't believe in you, especially friends or loved ones. However, with time and dedication to your goals, the subsequent accomplishments speak for itself, and you will know your own worth, despite the opinion of others.

The idea of a joke is to be funny, but you did not specify what kind of jokes you are offended by. If you are offended by jokes at your expense, you likely do not identify with the content of the joke, which I understand and do not blame you.

However, to be offended by anything that someone else says means to be complicit with the provocation. The more you are your True Self, free from ignorance, the less false opinions matter to you.

Anyhow, that's by best reply.

Also, working on your lower three chakras will help with your concerns, as they are masculine and assist in dealing with the world outside of you.

You can also work with Masculine Energies, like Mars and the Sun, or with runes like Sowilo and Thaur.

Refer to the TOZ calender for the appropriate dates for workings of this nature.

 

[AFODO]

You are a Zevist. Do not get yourself in problem for no reason, now you can say that you follow Zeus and that's it.
But you are very lucky that you have such a father anyways. But it could have turned out better if you said you follow Zeus.

 

[Symmachos-ZEUS/SHAITAN]

Hello, I told my father that I am a Satanist, he is generally not against it. But now it is the topic of the day. How can I change the subject carefully? He does not scold me but constantly asks stupid questions "Does Satan make me happy? etc. It irritates me a little and I would like to change the subject but I don't know how. Any advice is welcome. Once I told him that I tried weed and mushrooms and it was the topic of the whole year. I am very bad at keeping secrets, even though I read the recommendations on the site =)
By the way, maybe he will read this post.
But even more I would like to know how to deal with different opinions of people, for example, I can get very upset if someone tells me, for example, that my dreams are stupid or my work is worthless even though I put a lot of effort into it, or I can get offended even by a joke or I don’t understand jokes at all, sorry, this is a long post, but I need to figure this out.

As they were telling you, the old "Satanist" formula of Jewish lore is dead. You believe in Zeus and devote yourself to meditation. As for your father, by now he thinks you are Satanist. You should handle the matter better. Tell him that you actually worship Zeus, but that you were afraid that according to society's mentality "if you don't worship Jesus you are a bad Satanist, etc." But explain to him that you appreciate his understanding when you told him about Satanism, and yet in reality your God is Zeus. Don't talk about things like "Satan" or the irrelevant Jews.

 

[Engineered Trasformation]

, I personally would wait to tell everyone openly about my nature as a Zevist.

That is one of the reasons why we don't call ourselves Joy of Satanas anymore

I fully agree
Who knows maybe the enemy is planning a global law to banish Satanism for some odd reasons ? I do not think so but - in case - we seem prepared!

 

[Tethys333]

I fully agree
Who knows maybe the enemy is planning a global law to banish Satanism for some odd reasons ? I do not think so but - in case - we seem prepared!

I think everything is going in the right direction.
I have never felt so connected to my ancestors and past civilizations as I do now.
All thanks to the High Priests.

 

[Iustitia]

If they know you are Satanist/Zevist, why you just don't show to him/them the website so they can read and answers the question themselves?

 

[Iustitia]

If they know you are Satanist/Zevist, why you just don't show to him/them the website so they can read and answers the question themselves?

Typo, *why don't you go to show the site to them

 

[AristocraticDragon666]

Hello, I told my father that I am a Satanist, he is generally not against it. But now it is the topic of the day. How can I change the subject carefully? He does not scold me but constantly asks stupid questions "Does Satan make me happy? etc. It irritates me a little and I would like to change the subject but I don't know how. Any advice is welcome. Once I told him that I tried weed and mushrooms and it was the topic of the whole year. I am very bad at keeping secrets, even though I read the recommendations on the site =)
By the way, maybe he will read this post.
But even more I would like to know how to deal with different opinions of people, for example, I can get very upset if someone tells me, for example, that my dreams are stupid or my work is worthless even though I put a lot of effort into it, or I can get offended even by a joke or I don’t understand jokes at all, sorry, this is a long post, but I need to figure this out.

You can ask your father to change the subject and not come back to it if you don't want to talk to him about Zevism/Satanism.

You can tell your father directly that you don't want to talk to him about certain topics.

 

[AristocraticDragon666]

I don't know if you missed the update, but you are a Zevist, not a Satanist.

From the information you provided, it seems your father is rather curious if anything, so try to understand his curiosity instead of being annoyed by it—he is not in the wrong. You should consider yourself fortunate that his reaction was as it was.

If you don't want to talk about it anymore with him, tell him you will chat about it later when you understand more about the Path of the Gods.

It is natural to feel offended when someone doesn't believe in you, especially friends or loved ones. However, with time and dedication to your goals, the subsequent accomplishments speak for itself, and you will know your own worth, despite the opinion of others.

The idea of a joke is to be funny, but you did not specify what kind of jokes you are offended by. If you are offended by jokes at your expense, you likely do not identify with the content of the joke, which I understand and do not blame you.

However, to be offended by anything that someone else says means to be complicit with the provocation. The more you are your True Self, free from ignorance, the less false opinions matter to you.

Anyhow, that's by best reply.

Also, working on your lower three chakras will help with your concerns, as they are masculine and assist in dealing with the world outside of you.

You can also work with Masculine Energies, like Mars and the Sun, or with runes like Sowilo and Thaur.

Refer to the TOZ calender for the appropriate dates for workings of this nature.

Zevism is Spiritual Satanism/Satanism.

The only true current of Satanism is Zevism (Spiritual Satanism), all other currents of Satanism are not Satanism, but heresy.

 

[Hellenic SS]

We're Zevists now.

 

[GoldenxChild1]

Zevism is Spiritual Satanism/Satanism.

The only true current of Satanism is Zevism (Spiritual Satanism), all other currents of Satanism are not Satanism, but heresy.

Spiritual Satanism was a term we used for a quarter century out of necessity.

If anyone wants to refer to our religion as Spiritual Satanism or call themselves SS, they are free to, but we are Zevists following Zeus Satya.

After a time, it may actually be inappropriate to hold on to older terms, other than for historical reference.

For instance, if the opportunity did arise to tell someone about Zevism, like in Outreach, you wouldn't say "Zevism is the only true form of Satanism." In the way, we are back to where HP wanted us away from: false representation.

 

[AristocraticDragon666]

If anyone wants to refer to our religion as Spiritual Satanism or call themselves SS, they are free to, but we are Zevists following Zeus Satya.

Spiritual Satanism is not just a term, it is the same as Zevism, because Spiritual Satanism is Zevism, and Zevism is Spiritual Satanism, Spiritual Satanism=Zevism.
There are no contradictions between Spiritual Satanism and Zevism, because they are the same thing, and this is what Cobra wrote about.

 

[AristocraticDragon666]

For instance, if the opportunity did arise to tell someone about Zevism, like in Outreach, you wouldn't say "Zevism is the only true form of Satanism." In the way, we are back to where HP wanted us away from: false representation.

I wasn't writing about forms, but about currents.

Since you didn't understand what I meant, I'll explain.

This forum https://ancient-forums.com / and all the official websites of the Temple of Zeus related to it: https://templeofzeus.org / and others - they are the true current of Satanism.

All other currents of Satanism, such as O.N.A., Lavey's Satanism, Temple of Set, Anti-Cosmic Satanism, and other jewish shit, are heresy and are not Satanism.

 

[AristocraticDragon666]

Spiritual Satanism was a term we used for a quarter century out of necessity.

If anyone wants to refer to our religion as Spiritual Satanism or call themselves SS, they are free to, but we are Zevists following Zeus Satya.

After a time, it may actually be inappropriate to hold on to older terms, other than for historical reference.

For instance, if the opportunity did arise to tell someone about Zevism, like in Outreach, you wouldn't say "Zevism is the only true form of Satanism." In the way, we are back to where HP wanted us away from: false representation.

Sites https://templeofzeus.org and https://ancient-forums.com Temple of Zeus is the true current of Satanism.

I'm a Zevist = I am Spiritual Satanist (SS/︎︎)

 

[AristocraticDragon666]

After a time, it may actually be inappropriate to hold on to older terms, other than for historical reference.

Yes, but this does not apply to the term "Spiritual Satanism"

 

[GoldenxChild1]

@AristocraticDragon666
I wasn't confused about what you said, brother/sister.

Perhaps I need to refer to the updates again, but I am sure that HP did not say that Zevism = Spiritual Satanism. He said that from now on, we are Zevists following our Supreme God Zevs and the rest of the Gods and Goddesses.

We "used" to be Spiritual Satanists when the title was necessary. Now, we are Zevists and our religions is Zevism. I don't see the value in retaining Zevism as an "Ultimate Satanism" because it defeats the purpose of the updates.

I feel like I've derailed OPs topic, so my apologies for that, but it is crucial that all Zevists are on the same page regarding their identity and designation.

 

[Henu the Great]

Perhaps I need to refer to the updates again, but I am sure that HP did not say that Zevism = Spiritual Satanism.

What was changed? Nothing, the essence is the same. Thus, these are the same. We are now with a new cover for the public to openly welcome us for the purpose of restoration of ancient culture.

 

[GoldenxChild1]

What was changed? Nothing, the essence is the same. Thus, these are the same. We are now with a new cover for the public to openly welcome us for the purpose of restoration of ancient culture.

I never said that the essence of the Temple changed. I said that Zevism is not a cover for Spiritual Satanism, as you say, it is Zevism. This is how I have interpreted our transformation.

 

[AristocraticDragon666]

@AristocraticDragon666
I wasn't confused about what you said, brother/sister.

Perhaps I need to refer to the updates again, but I am sure that HP did not say that Zevism = Spiritual Satanism. He said that from now on, we are Zevists following our Supreme God Zevs and the rest of the Gods and Goddesses.

We "used" to be Spiritual Satanists when the title was necessary. Now, we are Zevists and our religions is Zevism. I don't see the value in retaining Zevism as an "Ultimate Satanism" because it defeats the purpose of the updates.

I feel like I've derailed OPs topic, so my apologies for that, but it is crucial that all Zevists are on the same page regarding their identity and designation.

In recent Cobra posts, it has been clarified, especially in the latest update (post 25+ identities), to which you also made a serious contribution, for which I am eternally grateful, that the Supreme God Zeus is Satanas/Lucifer, Perun (in Slavic paganism, culture and mythology), Odin/Thor (in Scandinavian paganism, culture and mythology), Jupiter (in Roman paganism, culture and mythology).

As for Satanism and Paganism, the Temple of Zeus is true Paganism and Satanism (Spiritual Satanism).

I don't see any contradictions here, since we are talking about the same thing, to abandon the use of the terms Spiritual Satanism/Satanism and Paganism - I wouldn't.

It's just that the term Zevism/Zevist is the most accurate and allows you to better understand the essence, including in meditation, occult and magical work, to better approach the truth (to Satya) and to know it.

I hope that I am making everything clear.

 

[AristocraticDragon666]

I never said that the essence of the Temple changed. I said that Zevism is not a cover for Spiritual Satanism, as you say, it is Zevism. This is how I have interpreted our transformation.

In the minds of most ordinary people (ordinary mortals) unlike Zeus, Satan is perceived as something evil, which of course Satan/Zeus is not.

Most ordinary people (ordinary mortals) are stuffed with Jewish propaganda, including propaganda of сhristianity and pisslam, it is more difficult for them to accept Satan than Zeus, therefore, from this point of view, for their fastrly deprogramming, for ordinary people it is better to use the term Zeus, the probability of being stoned is much lower than if the term Satan is used, especially if you have to talk to christian fanatics.

 

[GoldenxChild1]

In recent Cobra posts, it has been clarified, especially in the latest update (post 25+ identities), to which you also made a serious contribution, for which I am eternally grateful, that the Supreme God Zeus is Satanas/Lucifer, Perun (in Slavic paganism, culture and mythology), Odin/Thor (in Scandinavian paganism, culture and mythology), Jupiter (in Roman paganism, culture and mythology).

As for Satanism and Paganism, the Temple of Zeus is true Paganism and Satanism (Spiritual Satanism).

I don't see any contradictions here, since we are talking about the same thing, to abandon the use of the terms Spiritual Satanism/Satanism and Paganism - I wouldn't.

It's just that the term Zevism/Zevist is the most accurate and allows you to better understand the essence, including in meditation, occult and magical work, to better approach the truth (to Satya) and to know it.

I hope that I am making everything clear.

I never said that Zeus wasn't Satan Lucifer. I also never said that that Spiritual Satanism and Zevism do not share the same essence, fundamentally. Lastly, I never said that there was a contradiction more than their was a semantic distinction, which I am more placing more value you on than you are Henu. This is okay and everyone is free to identify as the initiates of the Gods with the appropriate titles. However, I mean what I said about earlier, too, that's all.

I hope that makes sense. If people have an emotional affinity, and it's okay with the Temple ( it is ), than SS is still good, I guess. I refreshed on HPs AMA.

Much Love, Brothers

Thanks for the compliment

 

[Henu the Great]

I never said that Zeus wasn't Satan Lucifer. I also never said that that Spiritual Satanism and Zevism do not share the same essence, fundamentally. Lastly, I never said that there was a contradiction more than their was a semantic distinction, which I am more placing more value you on than you are Henu. This is okay and everyone is free to identify as the initiates of the Gods with the appropriate titles. However, I mean what I said about earlier, too, that's all.

I hope that makes sense. If people have an emotional affinity, and it's okay with the Temple ( it is ), than SS is still good, I guess. I refreshed on HPs AMA.

Much Love, Brothers

Thanks for the compliment

To be fair, you stated: "Perhaps I need to refer to the updates again, but I am sure that HP did not say that Zevism = Spiritual Satanism."

 

[616Taysha]

Why do people have the urge to talk about something they know not enough of, and expect others to simply accept it?

It is some sort of compensation tactics, don't they have enough attention from others? Didn't they receive attention from their parents? (btw, if not, one had better find some ways to draw attention - but in a constructive way so as not to endanger oneself).

 

[GoldenxChild1]

To be fair, you stated: "Perhaps I need to refer to the updates again, but I am sure that HP did not say that Zevism = Spiritual Satanism."

I agree, Henu. I said that "I may need to refer to the updates again," which I did, as I said to brother Aristo. Is there a point you are trying to make that I have not conceded to yet?

 

[Henu the Great]

I agree, Henu. I said that "I may need to refer to the updates again," which I did, as I said to brother Aristo. Is there a point you are trying to make that I have not conceded to yet?

I based my replies on this statement, I am simply trying to clear the misunderstanding.

 

[GoldenxChild1]

I based my replies on this statement, I am simply trying to clear the misunderstanding.

Ah, I see. Yes, the misunderstanding was my responsibility, and I now understand why you and Aristo had the impressions you had, based on my own words. I have referred to the AMA and am now in accordance with my brothers thoughts—my apologies.