The Gods #75834 Lilith/kali

[AskSatanOperator]

Hello, I have a question about the way you see Lilith. Which line of thought do you follow Lilith from? I've seen many people here saying that Lilith is a mother and things like that, but if we look at it from a Sumerian point of view, a historical point of view, Lilith was never treated that way, on the contrary, Lilith was always portrayed as uncontrollable nature, a chaotic Goddess, the few cities that worshiped Lilith in Sumer were not for love, it was to ward off storms, abortion, death and things that humans have no power over, things that Lilith has dominion over

Lilith only began to be seen as a feminist, loving, maternal Goddess, etc. after Judaism. Nowadays, the only doctrine that portrays Lilith as a righteous mother, a mother who defends her son even though he is wrong, a stern mother, is anti-cosmic Satanism in the qliphoth, where Lilith is seen as a chaotic Goddess (just as the Sumerians saw her) but in one of her epithets she is visited as this mother


Looking historically again, lilith only has as "children" the demons of sex, pleasure, Incubus and succubus, and even though they were considered her children, she was never held back by having a relationship of love with them, but rather of partnership or domination.

With that in mind, on what basis do you claim that Lilith is loving, a mother at the same time as Kali? Because if we take the loving Lilith into account, we're talking about the Jewish Lilith that feminism has embraced

 

[SeguaceDiSatanas]

Hello, I have a question about the way you see Lilith. Which line of thought do you follow Lilith from? I've seen many people here saying that Lilith is a mother and things like that, but if we look at it from a Sumerian point of view, a historical point of view, Lilith was never treated that way, on the contrary, Lilith was always portrayed as uncontrollable nature, a chaotic Goddess, the few cities that worshiped Lilith in Sumer were not for love, it was to ward off storms, abortion, death and things that humans have no power over, things that Lilith has dominion over

Lilith only began to be seen as a feminist, loving, maternal Goddess, etc. after Judaism. Nowadays, the only doctrine that portrays Lilith as a righteous mother, a mother who defends her son even though he is wrong, a stern mother, is anti-cosmic Satanism in the qliphoth, where Lilith is seen as a chaotic Goddess (just as the Sumerians saw her) but in one of her epithets she is visited as this mother


Looking historically again, lilith only has as "children" the demons of sex, pleasure, Incubus and succubus, and even though they were considered her children, she was never held back by having a relationship of love with them, but rather of partnership or domination.

With that in mind, on what basis do you claim that Lilith is loving, a mother at the same time as Kali? Because if we take the loving Lilith into account, we're talking about the Jewish Lilith that feminism has embraced

Please, read here:

https://satanslibrary.org/English/HP_Hooded_Cobra/The_Ancient_Lilith_-_Origins_of_the_Goddess_-_High_Priest_Hooded_Cobra_666.pdf

 

[Homer]

With that in mind, on what basis do you claim that Lilith is loving, a mother at the same time as Kali? Because if we take the loving Lilith into account, we're talking about the Jewish Lilith that feminism has embraced

From the basis of communicating with her.

Also, the "jewish" version of Lilith is slanderous and insulting, not loving. The jews have called her all sorts of names, like whore, mother of harlotry e.t.c. You know that the jews don't consider her as a positive being in their Zohar and other slanderous books where they mention her, don't you? The most heinous slander about Lilith comes from the jews. They included her in their "qliphoth" as basically the epitome of "evil" according to them, she is considered even worse than Satan. There aren't any motherly/positive references to her in the jewish crap, instead they claim that she kills children and seduces men just to steal their sperm to give birth to demon children and then kill them afterwards. That's the summary of the jewish view of Lilith, which you can see is extremely slanderous. Many jewish charms and spell tablets in Aramaic whose purpose were to protect sleeping people from Lilith have been discovered.

Her view as a positive being came despite the jewish slanderous lies, not because of them.

 

[Epiphany]

Jews have no love or respect for women, and this is showed by all of the slander they heap on the goddesses specifically, especially Lilith and Astarte.

As with the rest of the pantheon, Lilith has been slandered and her name, like Satan's, has been used as a scapegoat by the enemy.

And, also like the rest of the pantheon, she has many aspects beyond Kali, especially being the "divine feminine", so no one facet can be said to represent her in her entirety, just as Zeus, Poseidon and Saturn can't be said to represent Satan in his entirety.


The women here can probably provide better answers on the topic since they will naturally be closer to her.

 

[Rocca]

Which line of thought do you follow Lilith from?

that's the very point.
you can never follow from a single line, i dare to even say it's a disrespect!
the Queen of all unmanifested domains, is not to be marked,
by doing so you eliminate all other things she could be.
first you have to get rid of all and every idea you got about her from a hostile source, especially this part:

and even though they were considered her children, she was never held back by having a relationship of love with them, but rather of partnership or domination.

"getting information from a tv show like lucifer isn't smart"
and know that the best chance to know her is through her. which is not much pleasant by the way (don't get me wrong it's not because of she's bad)
but as human beings we are literally drowned in illusions from head to toe. getting rid of those illusions is painful.
if you learned about Kali then you must know that she's related to death of the Ego and it is no exaggeration the violent visualization she appears in.

 

[AskSatanOperator]

that's the very point.
you can never follow from a single line, i dare to even say it's a disrespect!
the Queen of all unmanifested domains, is not to be marked,
by doing so you eliminate all other things she could be.
first you have to get rid of all and every idea you got about her from a hostile source, especially this part:

"getting information from a tv show like lucifer isn't smart"
and know that the best chance to know her is through her. which is not much pleasant by the way (don't get me wrong it's not because of she's bad)
but as human beings we are literally drowned in illusions from head to toe. getting rid of those illusions is painful.
if you learned about Kali then you must know that she's related to death of the Ego and it is no exaggeration the violent visualization she appears in.

It is not unknown to anyone that all over the planet Lilith was considered the mother of sexual demons, you have to study a little more history and associate it with the present, in Sumer Lilith had children called Lil, who were a class of "demons" associated with wind, death and disease, also in some legends they were considered demons of sex (Incubus and succubus, in some tales the Lil were described as lilu or lilitu, which were a class of nocturnal demons associated with sex), including "LiL" is present not only in Lilith's name but in several other Gods (Enlil).

I still can't understand how you associate a Goddess who you say is loving, maternal etc. with Kali, aren't you worshipping Naamah by mistake? Naamah is the gentlest epithet of Lilith, she does love children, she is a healer and maternal
I also don't agree with taking into account only one line of a certain deity, my main question was to know the basis of the Lilith you worship, if it is one with historical bases or one taken from the head, which even so is very similar to what wiccas and drugged witches worship

Even if we take into account all the cultures in which Lilith has appeared, she is not at all maternal, unless we take into account the disaster of Wicca

I wasn't talking about Judaism, I was talking about anti-cosmic Satanism, which is where Lilith was first associated with Kali.

But a sincere question, isn't it Naamah who is being worshipped here? It's still Lilith, but in her maternal and sweet epithet, Naamah is often considered Lilith's daughter or sister, where Lilith would be the representation of the same older Goddess, and Naamah would be a younger, gentler Goddess.

I've been in Jos for almost 6 years and during that time I've had contact with Lilith, and none of those times did she appear red-haired with white skin, even this painting is inspired by the Jewish Talmud but ok

In any case, all the ways of worshipping Lilith are correct, precisely because she is an extremely complex Goddess who causes headaches for historians to this day, I just wanted some insights into the way you work with this Goddess