#392 Vegetarianism and Brahmins

[AskSatanOperator]

You people say non vegetarian diet is very important,Yet I know many and many Brahmins who are pure vegetarians since birth who has never touched any non vegetarian food achieve great things in life .They don't have any health disorder physically and mentally..So why is that non vegetarianism is even needed when a whole community people have been achieving so many great things in life

 

[Hs666]

You people say non vegetarian diet is very important,Yet I know many and many Brahmins who are pure vegetarians since birth who has never touched any non vegetarian food achieve great things in life .They don't have any health disorder physically and mentally..So why is that non vegetarianism is even needed when a whole community people have been achieving so many great things in life

The result does not depend on your diet. But having the right knowledge. If you know that 1+1= 3 as a vegetarian and then you become a nonvegetarian, for you 1+1 will always be 3. This will inevitably lead you to not achieve great success in mathematics.

 

[Vivek]

There's no correlation.

There are possibly social benefit's or other positive habits and/or life philosophies that could explain their success, which may also function to superficially "paint over" the damage being caused by their unhealthy eating habit's.

For the majority of people, vegetarianism is harmful to their overall physical, mental and spiritual development. And just because a monkey kick's a hundred ball's and 1/100 goes in the net, it doesn't mean anything.

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

The “highly spiritual” are just about as retarted as the materialists. You’d be better off doing the opposite of almost everything they do.

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

The “highly spiritual” are just about as retarted as the materialists. You’d be better off doing the opposite of almost everything they do.

Including their vegetarianism btw. Eat as much meat as you can. Plants are poison. You don’t need sugar, fiber, or anything from plants. Your body produces all the antioxidants it needs. Meat has everything you need(including vitamin C).

The “gurus” and “monks” are great teachers on what NOT to do. Make as much money as you can, find a loving partner and reproduce. “God” doesn’t give two shits about you eat, who you fuck or what you do since “God” is just the primordial force. Satan wants us to thrive materially and spiritually. Ignoring the
material is like ignoring your need for oxygen to live.

 

[Vivek]

[...] Eat as much meat as you can. Plants are poison. You don’t need sugar, fiber, or anything from plants. Your body produces all the antioxidants it needs. Meat has everything you need(including vitamin C).

Ultimately, what is to be strived for is balance. Here you're displaying the same binary extremism as they are, as plants/herbs have their own use cases. A fully carnivore diet can produce its own set of issue's, as people's nutritional need's are individual.

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

“Balanced” diets are a lie. You don’t need anything from plants, other than perhaps medicinal purposes:

There are no issues for the carnivore diet if done properly:

Reaearch the Randle cycle as well, explains why so many are fat nowadays:

 

[The Alchemist7 [JG]]

Including their vegetarianism btw. Eat as much meat as you can. Plants are poison. You don’t need sugar, fiber, or anything from plants. Your body produces all the antioxidants it needs. Meat has everything you need(including vitamin C).

Just wanted to point out, plants are obviously not "poison". Humans are omnivore and in the best case scenario, for most people the best diet is a mixture of the 3 main types of macronutrients: fats, proteins and carbohydrates (but not in equal proportions necessarily). It is ideal for most people to eat meat, diary or plants unless there are factors and circumstances than affect this. There are indeed humans who eat only meat, people that eat only plants etc. and neither of these scenarios are ideal for most people. There are also factors that can affect what kind of diet is best for each human such as health level and the amount of energy they consume, the environment in which energy is consumed, for example if you have to sprint at a marathon, meat is not going to help you for a quick boost of energy (something which carbohydrates do) but it is going to help you the most in situations of maintaining saturation and long term conservation of energy.

But indeed refined sugars are indeed "poison" if consumed in large amounts (which most people do) and in fact the "safe" levels of refined sugar that is indicated for consumption is so low that is better and easier to just simply stop eating it completely, except in situations when you really cannot avoid it such as when is added in certain normal foods. Meat may have all the nutrients needed but it may not have them in ideal quantities. For example fibers are a type of carbohydrates the body needs for gut health and other benefits, you might be much better off to eat fibers from fruits or other sources that have it in much higher quantities than meat. As Vivek said above is just a matter of having a balanced diet, and lifestyle. It is also different for each body (due to genetic differences etc.) what combination of fats, proteins and carbohydrates exactly is the most optimal for long term health.

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

Just wanted to point out, plants are obviously not "poison". Humans are omnivore and in the best case scenario, for most people the best diet is a mixture of the 3 main types of macronutrients: fats, proteins and carbohydrates (but not in equal proportions necessarily). It is ideal for most people to eat meat, diary or plants unless there are factors and circumstances than affect this. There are indeed humans who eat only meat, people that eat only plants etc. and neither of these scenarios are ideal for most people. There are also factors that can affect what kind of diet is best for each human such as health level and the amount of energy they consume, the environment in which energy is consumed, for example if you have to sprint at a marathon, meat is not going to help you for a quick boost of energy (something which carbohydrates do) but it is going to help you the most in situations of maintaining saturation and long term conservation of energy.

But indeed refined sugars are indeed "poison" if consumed in large amounts (which most people do) and in fact the "safe" levels of refined sugar that is indicated for consumption is so low that is better and easier to just simply stop eating it completely, except in situations when you really cannot avoid it such as when is added in certain normal foods. Meat may have all the nutrients needed but it may not have them in ideal quantities. For example fibers are a type of carbohydrates the body needs for gut health and other benefits, you might be much better off to eat fibers from fruits or other sources that have it in much higher quantities than meat. As Vivek said above is just a matter of having a balanced diet, and lifestyle. It is also different for each body (due to genetic differences etc.) what combination of fats, proteins and carbohydrates exactly is the most optimal for long term health.

I used to be in the “ balanced” camp but people really need to know what the randle cycle is to know why trying to have a “balanced” diet a horrible idea.

Carbs are non-essential for humans. That’s a fact. Gluconeogenesis produces all the glucose our bodies need.

Fiber is not necessary for gut health at all, it’s even detrimental:

I’ve heard about everything in regards to diet. Carnivore is consistent when understood properly, other diets are not.

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

Just wanted to point out, plants are obviously not "poison". Humans are omnivore and in the best case scenario, for most people the best diet is a mixture of the 3 main types of macronutrients: fats, proteins and carbohydrates (but not in equal proportions necessarily). It is ideal for most people to eat meat, diary or plants unless there are factors and circumstances than affect this. There are indeed humans who eat only meat, people that eat only plants etc. and neither of these scenarios are ideal for most people. There are also factors that can affect what kind of diet is best for each human such as health level and the amount of energy they consume, the environment in which energy is consumed, for example if you have to sprint at a marathon, meat is not going to help you for a quick boost of energy (something which carbohydrates do) but it is going to help you the most in situations of maintaining saturation and long term conservation of energy.

But indeed refined sugars are indeed "poison" if consumed in large amounts (which most people do) and in fact the "safe" levels of refined sugar that is indicated for consumption is so low that is better and easier to just simply stop eating it completely, except in situations when you really cannot avoid it such as when is added in certain normal foods. Meat may have all the nutrients needed but it may not have them in ideal quantities. For example fibers are a type of carbohydrates the body needs for gut health and other benefits, you might be much better off to eat fibers from fruits or other sources that have it in much higher quantities than meat. As Vivek said above is just a matter of having a balanced diet, and lifestyle. It is also different for each body (due to genetic differences etc.) what combination of fats, proteins and carbohydrates exactly is the most optimal for long term health.

As for plants, they are indeed poison, in the literal sense of the word.

Raw plants have the most anti-nutrients, lectins, oxalates, ect. Raw beans or raw potatoes are extremely bad. If we were truly meant to eat plants, the cooking them thoroughly wouldn’t be necessary.

We cook animals to kill what’s outside of them that could hurt us. We cook plants to kill what’s inside of them that could hurt us. No other omnivore/herbivore does that.

Our digestive system isn’t suited well anymore for plants really:

Our large intestine and cecum, where plant fibers are meant to be processed, are far smaller than even a pig’s, which is a proper omnivore, let alone an orangutan, a herbivorous primate.

 

[The Alchemist7 [JG]]

We cook animals to kill what’s outside of them that could hurt us. We cook plants to kill what’s inside of them that could hurt us. No other omnivore/herbivore does that.

This is half false and half incomplete. The reason humans cook some of the meat like chicken or pork is that they contains pathogens that are harmful for humans. They go away by cooking the meat in high temperatures. As about the plants, there are lots of fruits and vegetables that you can eat straight out of the trees or ground (granted that you ideally wash them before), same is the case with some meats like beef or fish that can be eaten raw in certain conditions (it still requires the meat to be "prepared" in some way like sushi). You can have severe health issues if you eat a lot of raw chicken, and same will most likely be the case for raw potatoes.

With that said, you can have a carnivore diet if you want to and if that suits you, your lifestyle and your needs, but you don't have to in order to be healthy. You can still be healthy either way, but is very wrong to push on others that plants are poison etc. when humans have been eating fruits and vegetables along meat since forever, and the most ideal for most people as a general note is a combination of all of them, in varying percentages depending each individual's circumstances. It is modern, processed food that is truly a poison and a threat to human health on longterm and in excess, be it made out of meats or plants.

If we were truly meant to eat plants, the cooking them thoroughly wouldn’t be necessary.

I don't think is very relevant to compare humans to all other animals. The Gods created humanity and taught us the crafts of agriculture, cooking, sciences etc. Humans are very different to all other lifeforms on earth.