Apparently the history of the 13 sign zodiac was that the ancient babylonians used it but then decided to take out SERPENTARIUS OR OPIUCHUS from the zodiac which according to google research is the 9th sign and comes after scorpio (which is actually only 6 days long) and before sagittarius (december 18-january 18). I want to know does anyone have any history about this sign and why it's only now that "astronomers" have come out saying this sign was part of the zodiac all along? When i read an article on the jos about astrology it definitely states 12 signs so i was a bit puzzled, and also i read here and there among satanists' posts on here about how that all the astrology shit is infested with new age crap but which aspect of it because the 12 sign zodiac chart is what the modern day astrologers use... so is the pdf astrology link on the JOS a more in-depth completely mind blowingly different version of the superficial mainstream polluted "astrology" which we read in magazines (and is hardly ever correct and most cases makes false predictions)??
THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE "TRUE" DATES WHICH IS SAID TO BE TAKING EFFECT IN 2012:-
ARIES = APRIL 19 - MAY 13
TAURUS = MAY 14 - JUNE 19
GEMINI = JUNE 20 - JULY 20
CANCER = JULY 21 - AUG 9
LEO = AUGUST 10 - SEPTEMBER 15
VIRGO = SEPTEMBER 16 - OCTOBER 30
LIBRA = OCTOBER 31 - NOVEMBER 22
SCORPIO = NOVEMBER 23 - NOVEMBER 29
OPHIUCHUS = NOVEMBER 30 - DECEMBER 17
SAGITTARIUS = DECEMBER 18 - JANUARY 18
CAPRICORN = JANUARY 19 - FEBRUARY 15
AQUARIUS = FEBRUARY 16 - MARCH 11
PISCES = MARCH 12 - APRIL 18
WHAT ARE PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS ON THIS?? I WANT TO KNOW WHY IT'S TAKEN THIS LONG FOR ASTROLOGERS TO UNCOVER THIS (NOT THAT IT'S ANY SURPRISE) THE REASON WHY AM CURIOUS IS BECAUSE AFTER READING NUMEROUS COMMENTS ONLINE FOLLOWING THE 13TH SIGN BEING "MERGED" INTO THE ZODIAC SOME SAY THEY NEVER FELT THAT MUCH LIKE THEIR CURRENT SIGN ANYWAY AND I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. I AM SUPPOSED TO BE A LIBRA BUT I DON'T THINK YOU CAN TRULY ACHIEVE BALANCE ANYWAY IN THIS WORLD NO MATTER WHAT. TRY AS YOU MAY TO BE DIPLOMATIC OR CO-OPERATIVE BUT YOU WON'T NECESSARILY GET EVERYONE ON YOUR SIDE SO WHY BOTHER?? LOL
(ACCORDING TO BULLSH*T ASTROLOGY LIBRAS (sept 24- 0ct 23)ARE FULL OF HARMONY AND PEACE, ARE CHARMING AND NEVER LOSE THEIR COOL OR COMPLAIN WHEN FACED WITH AN OPPOSITION AND ALWAYS LIKE TO PLEASE EVERYONE, are gullible, apathetic AND AVOID CONFRONTATION- BUT I THINK THAT IS not completely accurate..ALSO THEY APPARENTLY NEVER LIKE TO WORK WITHOUT A BIT OF FUN AND HAVE AN A IN SOCIALIZING AND COMMUNICATION AND NEVER WANT TO BE ALONE.
I HAVE WITNESSED MANY RUDE AND ACTUALLY SCARY "LIBRAS" SOME WHO ARE VERY BORING, yet kind but DISCIPLINED, TRADITIONAL, SERIOUS AND RESERVED AND most are also very private and ARE AS ALOOF AS A BOAT WASHED ASHORE ON A DESERT ISLAND AND WHO SEEM TO HATE TALKING TO PEOPLE, GET EASILY FLUSTERED AND ANNOYED WHEN CONFRONTED to the point of being d*cks AND SOME FIND IT HARD TO MAKE THEIR POINT so resort to being assholes and dicks instead. SOME JUST HAVE ZERO CHARM AND WHO WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THE LAST SAY ALWAYS ETC..AM NOT SAYING ALL are the same but MOST OF those i have encountered and observed as well either on tv or in my everyday life and experiences. Famous "libras" i know of are hilary duff, will smith, T.I., dannii minogue, amber rose,keyshia cole, simon cowell, eminem, ashlee simpson, sharon osbourne, andrew "dice" clay and gwyneth paltrow and kate winslet. It's up to you to judge and analyze if these fit what their "libra" zodiacal traits claim them to be.
I don't know how significant this superficial magazine type astrology is to our lives or even astrology in general but i think i lean more towards virgo because i like to be critical and picky and can oftentimes act cold and detached from situations if needs be and sometimes to protect myself as well and to help others. I also have eye for detail. This is why although caring i still prefer the corporate/business world to the care environment that i used to work in. I have just always preferred virgo and the sign itself resonates well with me according to astrology they always have problems with the tummy which i get a lot,and also yellow has always been a favourite colour of mine which is an earth colour.
I am more attuned to earthiness and feelings and sometimes like to dig into people and turn out being harsh or nosy but really am trying to help them or feel a duty of service to teach others or reach out to others. I also look inward a lot for answers (e.g. through meditation) and can be reflective and process certain things internally that i prefer not the share with others perhaps cos i don't trust them etc or because i prefer to share things about myself with people that i could trust more. These are my main qualities.
But that being said, at the same time i am also loving and can care so openly and profoundly and have such sentimentality that it affects me negatively as well.
ALso when i look at those supposedly born under the "scorpio" sign i see more "libra" traits of fairness and being calm and polite. I have studied a few people born under so-called scorpio dates such as friends most of whom seem calm and loyal all the same and not manipulative but actually just really wanting friendship and to get others to approve of them or like them. There is one who i find completely harmless...
In fact they're very emotional and actually quite sweet. I've also watched celebrities on tv and according to magazine astrology they are manipulative fierce competitors and need to be controlling and have dominant positions, but not all of them are manipulative and besides they do it in a subtle way that is rarely threatening. i watched celebrity apprentice and 2 "scorpios" competed in 2 different seasons and they were actually the quietest the whole time and got sent home as well. One actually was called "weak" and dominated by 2 more outspoken persons. They are also apparently tyrannical, vengeful and violent and penetrating and mysterious, most of which is a question mark for me..the ones i know are certainly none of these..
Most supposedly born under this sign that i have observed actually seem to prefer to be led than to dominate, hate confrontation and can also be shy and and would rather take a backseat rather than engage in arguments or mind games etc. According to online astrological analysis of scorpio traits they are most suited to roles like surgeon, doctor and scientists but the most famous "scorpios" are in the public eye and tend to be celebrity musicians, models, and actors and actresses from my research. There's hardly any famous "scorpio" doctors or surgeons or scientists or maybe am just looking at a very small percentage. 2 "scorpio" friends have shown interest in law and journalism/psychology and another one shows interest in cooking.The others just seem to be tv personalities and actors and actresses and there's one who is also a chef I may be wrong or over analyzing but i just don't feel that they (those born between october 23rd and november 21st) really fulfill this "scorpio" role.
THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE "TRUE" DATES WHICH IS SAID TO BE TAKING EFFECT IN 2012:-
ARIES = APRIL 19 - MAY 13
TAURUS = MAY 14 - JUNE 19
GEMINI = JUNE 20 - JULY 20
CANCER = JULY 21 - AUG 9
LEO = AUGUST 10 - SEPTEMBER 15
VIRGO = SEPTEMBER 16 - OCTOBER 30
LIBRA = OCTOBER 31 - NOVEMBER 22
SCORPIO = NOVEMBER 23 - NOVEMBER 29
OPHIUCHUS = NOVEMBER 30 - DECEMBER 17
SAGITTARIUS = DECEMBER 18 - JANUARY 18
CAPRICORN = JANUARY 19 - FEBRUARY 15
AQUARIUS = FEBRUARY 16 - MARCH 11
PISCES = MARCH 12 - APRIL 18
WHAT ARE PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS ON THIS?? I WANT TO KNOW WHY IT'S TAKEN THIS LONG FOR ASTROLOGERS TO UNCOVER THIS (NOT THAT IT'S ANY SURPRISE) THE REASON WHY AM CURIOUS IS BECAUSE AFTER READING NUMEROUS COMMENTS ONLINE FOLLOWING THE 13TH SIGN BEING "MERGED" INTO THE ZODIAC SOME SAY THEY NEVER FELT THAT MUCH LIKE THEIR CURRENT SIGN ANYWAY AND I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. I AM SUPPOSED TO BE A LIBRA BUT I DON'T THINK YOU CAN TRULY ACHIEVE BALANCE ANYWAY IN THIS WORLD NO MATTER WHAT. TRY AS YOU MAY TO BE DIPLOMATIC OR CO-OPERATIVE BUT YOU WON'T NECESSARILY GET EVERYONE ON YOUR SIDE SO WHY BOTHER?? LOL
(ACCORDING TO BULLSH*T ASTROLOGY LIBRAS (sept 24- 0ct 23)ARE FULL OF HARMONY AND PEACE, ARE CHARMING AND NEVER LOSE THEIR COOL OR COMPLAIN WHEN FACED WITH AN OPPOSITION AND ALWAYS LIKE TO PLEASE EVERYONE, are gullible, apathetic AND AVOID CONFRONTATION- BUT I THINK THAT IS not completely accurate..ALSO THEY APPARENTLY NEVER LIKE TO WORK WITHOUT A BIT OF FUN AND HAVE AN A IN SOCIALIZING AND COMMUNICATION AND NEVER WANT TO BE ALONE.
I HAVE WITNESSED MANY RUDE AND ACTUALLY SCARY "LIBRAS" SOME WHO ARE VERY BORING, yet kind but DISCIPLINED, TRADITIONAL, SERIOUS AND RESERVED AND most are also very private and ARE AS ALOOF AS A BOAT WASHED ASHORE ON A DESERT ISLAND AND WHO SEEM TO HATE TALKING TO PEOPLE, GET EASILY FLUSTERED AND ANNOYED WHEN CONFRONTED to the point of being d*cks AND SOME FIND IT HARD TO MAKE THEIR POINT so resort to being assholes and dicks instead. SOME JUST HAVE ZERO CHARM AND WHO WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THE LAST SAY ALWAYS ETC..AM NOT SAYING ALL are the same but MOST OF those i have encountered and observed as well either on tv or in my everyday life and experiences. Famous "libras" i know of are hilary duff, will smith, T.I., dannii minogue, amber rose,keyshia cole, simon cowell, eminem, ashlee simpson, sharon osbourne, andrew "dice" clay and gwyneth paltrow and kate winslet. It's up to you to judge and analyze if these fit what their "libra" zodiacal traits claim them to be.
I don't know how significant this superficial magazine type astrology is to our lives or even astrology in general but i think i lean more towards virgo because i like to be critical and picky and can oftentimes act cold and detached from situations if needs be and sometimes to protect myself as well and to help others. I also have eye for detail. This is why although caring i still prefer the corporate/business world to the care environment that i used to work in. I have just always preferred virgo and the sign itself resonates well with me according to astrology they always have problems with the tummy which i get a lot,and also yellow has always been a favourite colour of mine which is an earth colour.
I am more attuned to earthiness and feelings and sometimes like to dig into people and turn out being harsh or nosy but really am trying to help them or feel a duty of service to teach others or reach out to others. I also look inward a lot for answers (e.g. through meditation) and can be reflective and process certain things internally that i prefer not the share with others perhaps cos i don't trust them etc or because i prefer to share things about myself with people that i could trust more. These are my main qualities.
But that being said, at the same time i am also loving and can care so openly and profoundly and have such sentimentality that it affects me negatively as well.
ALso when i look at those supposedly born under the "scorpio" sign i see more "libra" traits of fairness and being calm and polite. I have studied a few people born under so-called scorpio dates such as friends most of whom seem calm and loyal all the same and not manipulative but actually just really wanting friendship and to get others to approve of them or like them. There is one who i find completely harmless...
In fact they're very emotional and actually quite sweet. I've also watched celebrities on tv and according to magazine astrology they are manipulative fierce competitors and need to be controlling and have dominant positions, but not all of them are manipulative and besides they do it in a subtle way that is rarely threatening. i watched celebrity apprentice and 2 "scorpios" competed in 2 different seasons and they were actually the quietest the whole time and got sent home as well. One actually was called "weak" and dominated by 2 more outspoken persons. They are also apparently tyrannical, vengeful and violent and penetrating and mysterious, most of which is a question mark for me..the ones i know are certainly none of these..
Most supposedly born under this sign that i have observed actually seem to prefer to be led than to dominate, hate confrontation and can also be shy and and would rather take a backseat rather than engage in arguments or mind games etc. According to online astrological analysis of scorpio traits they are most suited to roles like surgeon, doctor and scientists but the most famous "scorpios" are in the public eye and tend to be celebrity musicians, models, and actors and actresses from my research. There's hardly any famous "scorpio" doctors or surgeons or scientists or maybe am just looking at a very small percentage. 2 "scorpio" friends have shown interest in law and journalism/psychology and another one shows interest in cooking.The others just seem to be tv personalities and actors and actresses and there's one who is also a chef I may be wrong or over analyzing but i just don't feel that they (those born between october 23rd and november 21st) really fulfill this "scorpio" role.