Sigils Origins

[GoldenRatio]

I posted a question on this thread regarding sigils. I'm reposting my question.

HP Hooded Cobra says Satan's sigil comes from ancient Sumeria, but basic research is telling me it comes from a grimoire from 200 years ago (potentially 500 years). That wouldn't make sense because if these sigils represent ancient Gods, you'd expect them to have appeared in ancient times.

I'm having difficulty researching any of the sigils since they're images. Can anyone show me the link between ancient Sumeria and Satan's sigil? Can anyone point me in the right direction to verify these sigils myself? Thank you.

 

[BlackFlame333X2]

I heard it came from the Grimorium Verum, 16th century. I'm guessing it's a little older.

 

[GoldenRatio]

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[AFODO]

He said that the sigils are ancient Sumerian alchemical symbols. Don't twist his words, he didn't said Lucifer's seal comes from Sumeria, we can clearly see that it's a very outstanding and different sigil.
I'm not sure where Lucifers sigil comes from exactly, if I'm not wrong his other sigil has a more ancient origin perhaps from Sumeria.
But take in account that a lot of things remained on us from the middle ages and reneissance and such, ancient writings and so on, they were copied down from generations to generations. Lucifers sigil may originate from Rome BCE, but we only have a 18th century inscription of it.

 

[GoldenRatio]

He said that the sigils are ancient Sumerian alchemical symbols. Don't twist his words, he didn't said Lucifer's seal comes from Sumeria, we can clearly see that it's a very outstanding and different sigil.
I'm not sure where Lucifers sigil comes from exactly, if I'm not wrong his other sigil has a more ancient origin perhaps from Sumeria.
But take in account that a lot of things remained on us from the middle ages and reneissance and such, ancient writings and so on, they were copied down from generations to generations. Lucifers sigil may originate from Rome BCE, but we only have a 18th century inscription of it.

Ok, maybe I misinterpreted.

It's difficult to trace sigils, but the ones that I can trace that are used here come from Grimoire's written in the Christian context within the last 200-600 years. I don't understand why these sigils are being used or how they connect to the ancient worship of the Gods. And without a vast understanding of esoteric symbolism and knowledge, the origins of these sigils seem particularly important since they are used in meditations and rituals.

 

[Henu the Great]

I don't understand why these sigils are being used or how they connect to the ancient worship of the Gods.

Because you are trying to solve something right-brained with a left-brained approach. You would understand if you would meditate and so forth.

 

[Helleniser]

Hope this explains it.

 

[GoldenRatio]

Because you are trying to solve something right-brained with a left-brained approach. You would understand if you would meditate and so forth.

I'm sure you'd agree that, when dealing with esoteric phenomena, a combination of both left and right brain is needed. The realistic fear for someone coming to Zevism is that it is the Christian evil disguised in ancient religions. Being able to understand sigils, their source and meaning, goes a long way to mitigating that fear. Ritual requires a willing participant even if that participant is ignorant of what he is actually doing. I'm covering my bases.

That said, I have been doing meditations for a month now- power, void and chakra cleaning. I've felt a spiritual deepening that I can't quite describe. I'm hesitant to meditate on Satan's sigil, but I can try it.

 

[GoldenRatio]

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Hope this explains it.

That's interesting. I've also read that it's supposed to represent the holy grail, the V is supposed to represent Venus. I appreciate this visual representation, though I am still wondering why a similar sigil wasn't present in ancient times if it is a core representation of Satan and his aliases like Zues.

 

[Henu the Great]

I'm sure you'd agree that, when dealing with esoteric phenomena, a combination of both left and right brain is needed.

Not just with these topics, but with life in general.

The realistic fear for someone coming to Zevism is that it is the Christian evil disguised in ancient religions.

To whom it is, and to whom it is not. It is not uncommon to instinctively know this is the true Path. But your point is correct for certain types of people.

Being able to understand sigils, their source and meaning, goes a long way to mitigating that fear. Ritual requires a willing participant even if that participant is ignorant of what he is actually doing. I'm covering my bases.

That said, I have been doing meditations for a month now- power, void and chakra cleaning. I've felt a spiritual deepening that I can't quite describe. I'm hesitant to meditate on Satan's sigil, but I can try it.

Well done. And, there is no place for fear in Zevism. Fear is from the enemy to hinder and disable our psychic pursuits.

 

[Helleniser]

That's interesting. I've also read that it's supposed to represent the holy grail, the V is supposed to represent Venus. I appreciate this visual representation, though I am still wondering why a similar sigil wasn't present in ancient times if it is a core representation of Satan and his aliases like Zues.

The concept of vision, which is what Lucifer's Sigil is about, is also present in the Eye of Ra, the Eye of Horus and the Evil Eye, among other eye symbols across Ancient civilisations. As for Sigil-like symbols, I don't know whether they existed in the Ancient world, but they were definitely inspired by it.