Aquarius said:
From the book "penetration" Ingo Swann has said that when his group remote viewed to Mars, there actually was atmosphere and that the planet wasn't really orange, it seemed like the atmosphere was made in such a way that it reflected the solar energy away from it, this is his theory.
Do we know how advanced and successful Ingo was? I know Blackdragon666 said he was very good in psychic abilities, but the enemy entities - greys, namely - can interfere mentally, making us see things or hear things which aren't actually true or correct. Perhaps Ingo could see only so much, but it was tainted?
Gear88 said:
And if Uranus is tilted from the blast then that would create issues I assume the planets were found perfectly fine in their position and had different effects maybe the tilt is on purpose. Something like either producing more mental illness or keeping mental illnesses on a person. Maybe if the planet is straightened it sublimates mental illnesses.
Oh, you mean like the orientation of the Planet? Like if we use Runes, visualising the lines incorrectly on our Soul, then it would not work as intended; the same with Uranus being tilted, so it is not as Nature made it be previously? I hadn't considered that. With the Planets' vibrations pulsating out, if you will, constantly, in all directions, I didn't think about the difference of the orientation of a Planet, though I should have done - Earth being tilted is what causes the seasons - "the garden of eden" was Earth without the tilt, and Earth was springlike all year round which was also mentioned in a sermon or post.
FancyMancy said:
From here, the hypothesis starts to fantail and get muddy - maybe the spaceship hadn't enough power after destroying Phaeton, so (((they))) settled on just ripping the atmosphere of Mars off. Maybe that was the order from the superiors. Maybe they didn't have the time so they had to do a quick strike. Maybe a friendly of ours was close-by...
In as much as stupidity from the enemy, maybe?
I consider the enemy to be very malicious. To me, that means they are also conniving and clever. Although, it is possible to be both clever and an idiot, so...!
I can state perhaps the planet buster weapons they posses require spiritual backing. Maybe they realized doing this to capture more territory they can blast Phaeton since it's mostly a water planet and hardly easy to mine while the Earth is more of their planet types. It's possible they realized a combination of the Gods, Humans, Spirituality, and attack would only allow them one major shot to get in. It's been said the enemy non-sense we deal with is based on 12,000-15,000 years ago and really 10,000 years ago when they struck. SO if the enemy non-sense is based on this 2,000-5,000 year time frame the Gods had plenty of times to stop SOME but not ALL of the enemy non-sense. Maybe our side deleted enough scenarios the enemy just went fuck it we'll fuck'em up and do our best over the course of the next few thousand years.
I must apologise in advance for what I am about to say. Again, just now, I am reminded of Tom and Jerry. Specifically when the dog, Butch I think he is called, is there to protect Jerry, but when he is away, Tom is sneaky and fiendish. I don't wish to make light of very serious and important matters, but I just can't stop thinking that the enemy is like this!
Soaring Eagle 666 said:
FancyMancy said:
Aquarius said:
That's a (((nasa))) meme, it actually has an atmosphere and life in it and vegetation too.
For further info check the book "penetration" by Ingo Swann.
They lie about the moon too.
My working theory/hypothesis about the explosion of Phaeton having tilted Earth a bit and having a load of water from Phaeton landing here, having ripped-off Mars's atmosphere, having tilted Uranus on its side... makes more sense, at the risk of sounding arrogant, than solar wind blowing Mars's atmosphere off, while Earth, which is closer to the Sun, and her atmosphere - as well as Mercury, which is closer to Sun so I think didn't have chance to have a decent atmosphere, and Venus also - are fine.
There is also a large scar on the surface of Mars. While we don't have the knowledge of what
actually happened, we just have to fill-in the blanks, hypothesise, try to put the pieces of the puzzle together, extrapolate... to try and make sense of things. Presumably, the locations of Mars and Phaeton in orbit around Sun were such that Phaeton's explosion was not sufficient enough, or Phaeton and Mars were too far distant, so that the enemy's superweapon (I think someone mentioned ion laser or something) had to be deployed upon Mars. I think it has been confirmed or at least said that there is radiation of a nuclear type on Mars - "Evidence for a Large Anomalous Nuclear Explosions in Mars Past" by Universities Space Research Association.
From here, the hypothesis starts to fantail and get muddy - maybe the spaceship hadn't enough power after destroying Phaeton, so (((they))) settled on just ripping the atmosphere of Mars off. Maybe that was the order from the superiors. Maybe they didn't have the time so they had to do a quick strike. Maybe a friendly of ours was close-by...
It's all a working theory/hypothesis at this time. Until we know, I think that's all it can be. We could advance and learn Spirituality, with intuition and opening our Third Eye and other Chakras, so that we can understand things. With a clean, empowered, unblocked and open Third Eye, it becomes more and more increasingly difficult to be deceived - that means we know what's what about things. Along with learning and more education, we can use our intuition and instincts to realise things which might be too subtle for words until we learn how to articulate ourselves more and better.
I'm a little skeptical that a planet explosion would have that much effect on the solar system. The distances involved are huge.
Some basic math says that if a planet the size of Earth made entirely of water exploded outward spherically, the amount of water that would reach Earth would be:
Let R = Distance From Earth to Kuiper Belt: 5.984 * 10^9 kilometers
Let V = Volume of Earth: 4/3 * π * (6371 kilometers)³ = 1.08 * 10^12 cubic kilometers
Let T = Water Thickness: 4/3 * π * (R+T)³ - 4/3 * π * R³ = V
⇒ (R+T)³ - R³ = V / (4/3 * π)
⇒ T = (R³ + (3 * V) / (π * 4))^(1/3) - R
⇒ T = 2.4 x 10^-9 kilometers
⇒ T = 0.0024 millimeters
Let A = Cross-Section Area of Earth: π * (6371 kilometers)² = 128 * 10^6 square kilometers
Let W = Volume of Water that Hit Earth: A * T =
0.3 cubic kilometers
So if my math is correct, Earth would have been hit by a 0.0024 mm wall of water when Phaeton exploded.... and this titled the axis of rotation? Even accounting for gravity pulling in surrounding water, it shouldn't have been more than a cubic kilometer, which is about the size of Utah Lake.
Of course, this is assuming a symmetric explosion. If they wanted to affect Earth, they could have directed the explosion toward us. You also need an asymmetric force on the Earth in order to tilt the axis, otherwise it would just push the whole planet, and I would expect any asymmetry on that scale to smooth out by the time it reaches Earth. It might be possible, but I'm skeptical because of the huge distances involved.
Yes, I do tend to underestimate, and forget, the distances involved. I also was not certain that Phaeton was a water Planet mostly. I was thinking that the asteroids in the Asteroid Belt would not have been enough to have made-up Phaeton, so maybe include the bits of rings around the gas giants and also the asteroids in the Kuiper belt, plus some moons. Presumably, some of the water from Phaeton was 'boiled' when going too close to Sun, and some became comets, and some floated/continued away.
Aquarius said:
Soaring Eagle 666 said:
I'm a little skeptical that a planet explosion would have that much effect on the solar system. The distances involved are huge.
They are, but so are the planets[huge], and there is a interconnectedness in play.
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1154&p=6925&hilit=Beings#p6925
Well, the biblical "great flood" - if Earth was springlike previously, then where did more water come from, and how did some water become polar ice caps? Once upon a time, it was possible to walk physically from mainland Britain to the continent of Europe on land. There is something about Atlantis or Lemuria or similar areas which became flooded (sci fi programme Stargate - Atlantis shows that this spaceship-city of Atlantis (in another galaxy in canon) actually had computer programmes for self-defence, including self-submersion in water) and now are 'lost underwater'. I don't want to dismiss what you said, Soaring Eagle 666, but - needless to say - some things don't add up.
Invictus2 said:
Satanisttryinghard said:
I'm worried about something and I'm wondering if somebody out there can tell me exactly how this could turn out-for the better or for the worse. I heard recently about mankind's (namely Elon musk's) desire to some day colonize Mars. I educated myself in astrology starting about 3 or 4 years ago and I am happy to say that I've got more now than just a basic understanding of it (even though I am still working on understanding how a particular house can belong to the first second and or third decan in another house) BUT ANYWAY... On with the worry. What would happen to those infinitely old astrological energies if we were to in fact colonize planets? Wouldn't they be messed up or thrown off kilter or not apply anymore? I mean, there's a difference between doing something like landing on a planet (like we did with the moon in 1968) and maybe planting a few flags and LIVING on a planet. And then I heard another story from some other source that indicated that another famous person is thinking about maybe one day colonizing Jupiter. What what happen? I have personally experienced these planetary energies after I have ritually invoked and applied them working for me and doing exactly what I wanted them to. Wouldn't we lose all that if all those planets were crowded with people
Interesting question. I would assume the influence of the energies of the planets upon us would change somehow, and particularly that of Mars? If we were to live on the planet. Following this topic. Hopefully someone has achieved some knowledge on that matter. Because it also raises other questions, what happens if you travel too far from the Earth? Do we lose the influence of the planets in our soul? Do we start getting influenced by other planets?
I think I asked a similar question before. The Astrology, i.e. calculations of it and understanding and natal charts, would be different. For one thing, we'd have Earth's energies coming over to us while we're on Mars; we'd be many kilometers away from Earth, so the 'ripples' of the Energies would be different - which, when interacting with the 'ripples' of the Energies of the other Planets, as they reach us on Mars, they would also interact differently. Consider dropping a stone or pebble in a pond, then another one a few meters away, or just throw it in. Then get more to put in the pond, but change the distances between them. Then us different sizes - a brick or a stick or gold ball. Watch the water ripples. It's not a very good exercise but it should give you an idea.
thanks for the assurance
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