Which rune is better for improving natal Saturn ? Eihwaz or Nauthiz?

[Nero]

I did nauthiz and it worked well, don't know how eihwaz would work for this purpose though... This is what chatgpt says :
For improving natal Saturn, *Eihwaz* (ᛇ) is generally better than *Nauthiz* (ᚾ). Here's why:

### **Eihwaz (ᛇ)**
- **Endurance and Resilience**: *Eihwaz* symbolizes the endurance and resilience needed to navigate Saturn’s challenges. It is associated with the strength to withstand trials and grow stronger, which aligns well with Saturn's themes of discipline, structure, and long-term growth.
- **Transformation**: *Eihwaz* also represents transformation and the ability to overcome obstacles, which is crucial for working with Saturn’s often slow and demanding energy. It helps in turning challenges into opportunities for deep personal growth.

### **Nauthiz (ᚾ)**
- **Necessity and Constraint**: *Nauthiz* is associated with the concept of necessity and constraint. It deals with survival instincts and the challenges of overcoming limitations. While it does align with Saturn's focus on dealing with hardships and learning from them, it emphasizes the struggle and tension more than the transformative strength that *Eihwaz* offers.
- **Inner Discipline**: *Nauthiz* does encourage inner discipline, which is important for Saturn, but it is more about dealing with immediate needs and constraints rather than fostering long-term endurance and growth.

### Conclusion:
*Eihwaz* is better for improving natal Saturn because it offers a more balanced approach to resilience, transformation, and long-term strength, which are essential for working positively with Saturn's energy. *Nauthiz* is useful in situations of immediate struggle, but *Eihwaz* provides the enduring strength needed to harness Saturn's influence for long-term growth.

 

[SaqqaraNox]

Good morning,
I disagree. Eihwaz is suitable for defence and shield against negative energies and influences from transits of planets. In fact, among the meanings of this Rune is protection.

Nauthiz on the other hand is related to saturnine energies. It is the most suitable and ideal Rune for working on one's Saturn and its qualities. In fact, it can be used to improve one's constancy and perseverance as well as increase one's steadfastness and discipline if these are lacking (e.g. in cases where one has a lot of air in one's Soul, these may be lacking).

So in my personal experience, Nauthiz is ideal for improving the saturnine energies.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

The best option if you want to specifically sublimate or strengthen your Saturn is Nauthiz, the work will be more effective if you start it when the Moon is in Capricorn.
On the contrary, Eihwaz is related to Pluto.

 

[NakedPluto [JG]]

Please do not take advice from Chatgpt or any AI as it is not capable to understand the spiritual nature of things. Adding spiritual and plutonic forces over matters of Saturn is sure way recipe for shock events. Eihwaz protection comes from the nature of shocking, elevating, showing the psyche transformative circumstances, which is a different purificatory way by contact with certain energies and realities. It is a governance that is above the nature of a rawer material that Saturn is about. Here you must consider your Astrology, document your tendencies and situation of life and structure and organize actual actions and developments to build over the hardships of Saturn and resolve them. Saturn nature is that you must instate order and direction and sense/meaning.

 

[Lightning_Puma]

Wouldn't it be better to just do a Sun Square to get rid of any negative aspect(s) of Saturn and leave the good ones?

Please correct me.

 

[Fjolnir]

as it has been explained AI has a problem, it has no conscience or soul, it is only a set of mathematical formulas that copies what it finds, however it does not know how to question the information or discern truth from false, this is because it does not know how to go beyond the information already written at its disposal, it cannot even know god or himself.

Use your soul, meditate on the runes and perceive what they represent, what energy they have and experiment, a machine will not be able to do it even in thousands of years, those who foolishly believe they can replace or find the divine by a machine will only find destruction.

As you can see AI has provided incorrect information, Eihwaz is the rune linked to immortality, it probably derives from the proto-indo-european root * aiw- (vital force, life, eternal life) with its variant * yeu- (hence English Yew) or the yew tree.

The root aiw- is connected to the laton aevum, reconnectable
many words such as “Era” or
longevity, eternity, yeu- refers to the latin iuvenis, (youth).

The yew was a tree linked to death being poisonous but also to eternal life. Eihwaz is not only the rune of death but also the one that protects from death, a rune of high life force, if you look at the glyph of eihwaz it symbolizes a stylized slithering serpent. You can also understand it from the fact that the snake contains eternal life, but at the same time venom, and therefore death.

The rune most connected to Saturn is Odal, which can be used to strengthen it, the letter O indicates the circle, that which returns and the circularity of Saturn. It can be used to strengthen it, but along with solar and positive runes such as sowilo and wunjo, sowilo is ruled by the sun, wunjo by Venus.