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In SS, there are no dietary restrictions which makes perfect sense, but I wanted to know why ancient Pagan religions like neoplatonism and hinduism promote vegetarianism so strongly.

If you read old works of neoplatonic philosophers, many seem to promote vegetarianism as a “higher” state of living. Hindus too have a long history of pronouns vegetarianisn. Sadhguru, who HPHC spoke highly of, promotes it as well, with the whole “you are what you eat” nonsense. He’s clearly never heard of a hippo or being around vegans long enough.

I understand the premise of avoiding suffering, not necessarily for “moral” reasons but rather because it would be good for us vibrationally/spiritually since I think auras of the people working at slaughterhouses do get polluted. I’m not sure how much truth there is to the whole “scared animal’s dead flesh then makes you scared when you eat it” but yeah animals do need better living conditions and the killing should be humane.

I also support lab-grown meat as long as it is produced to be exactly like the real thing and not given artificial garbage along with it. I mainly support it because if we can get meat without killing any animal, then we should. I’m of the opinion that we need meat and the nutrients in it far more than we need plants. You can read my “Case for the Carnivore diet” post if you want more details on my position.

However I’ll go back to my original question. What was the reasoning behind the support of vegetarianism by the neoplatonists and the hindus? I don’t think it was enemy influence since all enemy religions with the exception of a few very new ones like Seventh Day Adventists are big supporters of meat eating.
 
What was the reasoning behind the support of vegetarianism by the neoplatonists and the hindus?
For example, here is a work by Porphyry from the 3rd century called "On Abstinence from Eating Animals" where he makes various arguments for vegetarianism. The work was aimed at a fellow neoplatonist. Porphyry argued against animal sacrifices too in his work.
 
Vegeterianism can be a means to an end when done to an extent. Clearly, if you consume endless junk or have irritated bowels, this interfers with a lot of processes. This can be useful in some cases where one needs to be "lighter" in order to proceed with certain spiritual undertakings. But it's not to be done forever. Diets can be cycled depending on what one is doing.

Diet is not the core of spiritual advancement. Sadhguru could be eating steaks and still be a very spiritual person. Obsession over diet is also for those who have very sensitive systems and in many cases people who want a lot of organization of diet. For the rest, things are fine either way.
 
Vegeterianism can be a means to an end when done to an extent. Clearly, if you consume endless junk or have irritated bowels, this interfers with a lot of processes. This can be useful in some cases where one needs to be "lighter" in order to proceed with certain spiritual undertakings. But it's not to be done forever. Diets can be cycled depending on what one is doing.

Diet is not the core of spiritual advancement. Sadhguru could be eating steaks and still be a very spiritual person. Obsession over diet is also for those who have very sensitive systems and in many cases people who want a lot of organization of diet. For the rest, things are fine either way.
Thanks for the answer. So there can be certain uses for vegetarian or even fasting as these can make someone less dense in their vibrational state and can open up to clearer spiritual experiences? Is that correct?
 
Your vibrational density is not decided by your food, it's decided by your level overall. If one has a very sensitive system, the upsets from a very heavy diet, can in some cases make them unable to meditate, promote lack of health in the gut, or cause other issues, which only INDIRECTLY can affect your spiritual level. But this is a specific category of people, not everyone. For most, vegeterianism and other diets will simply make them unsatisfied or weak (which also affect your spiritual progression indirectly).

There is no set "diet" for everyone. People have to find what works for them.
 
Your vibrational density is not decided by your food, it's decided by your level overall. If one has a very sensitive system, the upsets from a very heavy diet, can in some cases make them unable to meditate, promote lack of health in the gut, or cause other issues, which only INDIRECTLY can affect your spiritual level. But this is a specific category of people, not everyone. For most, vegeterianism and other diets will simply make them unsatisfied or weak (which also affect your spiritual progression indirectly).

There is no set "diet" for everyone. People have to find what works for them.
Thank you for the clarification. I appreciate it.
 
Other than what HPHC said there are some healthy things that everyone can consume regardless, like raw milk, egg, honey, most fruits and vegetables..
Eat unprocessed meat and unprocessed food like food that doesn't have any additives and such.
I would never eat lab meat whatever they say about it, always try to consume as organic foods as possible.
Also use unprocessed cane sugar instead of processed white sugar for example.
 
For example, here is a work by Porphyry from the 3rd century called "On Abstinence from Eating Animals" where he makes various arguments for vegetarianism. The work was aimed at a fellow neoplatonist. Porphyry argued against animal sacrifices too in his work.
Porphyry was also severely mentally unstable. He is not on the Satanic Personalities for that reason.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

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