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The Alchemist7 [JG]

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In my country the health prime minister stated publicly that he gave order to all the medical institutions in the country to claim all the deaths as „suspect from corovavirus until otherwise is proven”. From my point of view this is a typical statement from a politician who lies or hide the truth to save his ass. In reality, all the deaths are claimed as happened from coronavirus even when the victims didn't have the virus and regarding this statement and I saw several people on the internet saying that they have relatives or friends working in the medical field and basically those people (nurses, doctors etc) were told (((from above))) to say to the public and probably even to write in the death certificate that coronavirus is the cause for the deaths happening now in the hospitals, despite the fact that some victims didn't even had the virus at all. Also a former political figure in my country stated that `from 600 deaths, 400 didn't die from coronavirus` and then quickly changed the subject to avoid it because such subjects are obviously forbidden on their televisions.

I heard exactly the same is happening in UK, that medical workers are told to claim deaths as happening from covid when in reality is not true.

My question is, is it happening the same in your countries? What information do you have?

If this is happening worldwide (and I don't see any reason why it wouldn't), then oficial covid numbers are faked and have nothing to do with the reality.
 
In my area the state health department is telling local coroners that covid deaths do not need to be investigated, while the coroners are mandated by law to investigate all deaths especially disease deaths.

In one county near me the coroner only reported 1 covid death, yet the state health department is claiming 11 covid deaths for that county.

Who knows how many counties throughout the USA this is going on.
 
Oh yeah that is happening in a lot of parts of the World. For example what needs to be understood is.

The comorbidity is it caused by coronavius(the virus that has existed for decades now), CoVid-19(biological weapon manufactured by China in the Wuhan city, Hubei region), or did they die from a disease or the old died of natural reasons.

So notice the three-four factors. So the person dies covid/corona that doesn't mean anything "How do you know that?"

In reality my guess is these nations are trying to amplify the fear or manipulate the field in some way and perhaps maybe get more financial compensation if there is redistribution of wealth.

As one person put it the CoVid-19 is an extremely poor bio-weapon to depopulate and cause harassment. It has a death rate of 0.05-0.01%, the flu is 0.01%-0.0095%.

So there IS a conspiracy to just state CoVid/Corona.
 
I agree with what you said brother. The bodies are all piled as corona deaths which is obviously not trustworthy. At what country do you live? (Me Netherlands) As far as my research has shown David Icke in his latest interview explained this very well. The jews
Want to use the 5g towers in combination with the planned forced vaccinations of Bill Gates. It consists of nano technology. This is very sick but this info is going viral at the moment and people are burning 5g towers. This interview only has gotten deleted on the London real show YouTube. But on the site you can watch the full interview. Obviously Icke isn't a SS or on our side, but regarding the subject he's mostly correct.
The media constantly instills fear and panick into the sheeple which causes them to do stupid stuff like snitch on group gatherings. We are only going to get out of this lockdown by waking the people up by doing our part. Final RTR's as much as possible. That's my 2 cents on this issue.

HS/88!!!
 
The Alchemist7 said:
In my country the health prime minister stated publicly that he gave order to all the medical institutions in the country to claim all the deaths as „suspect from corovavirus until otherwise is proven”. From my point of view this is a typical statement from a politician who lies or hide the truth to save his ass. In reality, all the deaths are claimed as happened from coronavirus even when the victims didn't have the virus and regarding this statement and I saw several people on the internet saying that they have relatives or friends working in the medical field and basically those people (nurses, doctors etc) were told (((from above))) to say to the public and probably even to write in the death certificate that coronavirus is the cause for the deaths happening now in the hospitals, despite the fact that some victims didn't even had the virus at all. Also a former political figure in my country stated that `from 600 deaths, 400 didn't die from coronavirus` and then quickly changed the subject to avoid it because such subjects are obviously forbidden on their televisions.

I heard exactly the same is happening in UK, that medical workers are told to claim deaths as happening from covid when in reality is not true.

My question is, is it happening the same in your countries? What information do you have?

If this is happening worldwide (and I don't see any reason why it wouldn't), then oficial covid numbers are faked and have nothing to do with the reality.
YES.
 
EasternFireLion666 said:
Who was the one who said about the 600 - 400 situation?
Salut. It was Gigi Becali. I know it might sound funny or delusional but he changed the subject straight away and also he said to the TV program that he was speaking to that, I quote: `I have my information, you have yours, but is no point to discuss about this now`.
I don't think that he lied or joked to be honest. Considering what is happening worldwide, his words were quite accurate for Romania.

Satanswarlord666 said:
I agree with what you said brother. The bodies are all piled as corona deaths which is obviously not trustworthy. At what country do you live? (Me Netherlands)
I am from Romania. I have some new information but I have to put it together, I will post it on this thread a bit later when I finish.
 
StraitShot47 said:
Gear88 said:
EasternFireLion666 said:
Satanswarlord666 said:
Usthepeople666 said:


They kill them in the hospitals and fake the death certificates!

Whoever works in the medical field and dare to expose the real situations from the hospitals is instantly fired. This is why most doctors and people involved are afraid to show the truth to the public.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vTZI4Ns24c
The above video is of a woman who has a friend working in a hospital in New York. According to her words, people who arrive at the intensive care in the hospitals are deliberately and purposefully given the wrong treatment which worsen their health condition until they die. Instead of giving them oxygen and intravenous vitamins for consolidating their breath and immune system, they are connected straight away to the ventilators which only put a strong pressure on their lungs in the case when their respiratory muscles do not have any problems and their lungs do not require ventilators. The medical staff implied in most if not all hospitals is told (((from above))) that this is the way they have to follow and they can't use other treatments. Apparently the reason why Boris Johnson recovered is because he was given oxygen and had not been connected to a ventilator, therefore he received the proper treatment for this medical issue, which apparently was indeed coronavirus.

There are people who get to intensive care without having any coronavirus but ALL OF THEM are treated like they have it, therefore they are given a wrong treatment for a medical condition that they do not suffer from. According to media, coronavirus in critical cases is supposed to cause pneumonia, which would indeed require the connection to a medical ventilator. Not all people who get there are suffering from pneumonia but as I said ALL OF THEM are treated like they have pneumonia from conoravirus, when in reality is not the case. Aside this, according to the youtube clip, the patients are completely neglected and let to die. This is coming from someone who's working at a hospital in New York.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ibWF2dVzAZFW/
This link basically confirms the same informations, this time coming from a doctor who from what I understand was fired for making public that video. This man basically complain about how irrational, wrong and neglectful is the way how the medical staff is treating the patients that get to intensive care.

THEY FAKE THE DEATH CERTIFICATES

https://www.bitchute.com/video/0zqIRxetYkkG/
The above physician also implied in the medical system from Minnesota states that he received an email from the Health Department through which he was `trained` on what to write on the death certificates.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/2T2qnV0vc13f/
The above mrs. physician brings information coming from official government bodies which are `instructing` the medical staff to write coronavirus as the main cause of death on the death certificate when the death had been caused by coronavirus-related symptoms, even if it hadn't been proven that the victims really had the virus or even without the victims being tested before dying.

UNited-KIngdom.png

Source: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-notes-for-completing-a-medical-certificate-of-cause-of-death

UNited-States.png

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf

Basically what the official government bodies from United States and United Kingdom want to impose is that if death came from a coronavirus-related symptom, then ALL DEATH CERTIFICATES of those victims should have coronavirus as death cause, not on the ground of official confirmation by testing, but on the ground of assumption and supposition that the victims might have had the virus, at the discretion of the doctors, doctors which have just been instructed by the government to write coronavirus as the main death cause! According to the above mrs. physician, not only during these times but generally speaking it is difficult to accurately find the real death cause especially when a person is suffering from multiple medical conditions. In New York doctors without their knowledge are instructed to induce death to the patients by respiratory means in order to be able to justify coronavirus as the death cause!

THEY FAKE THE OFFICIAL STATS

https://www.bitchute.com/video/1wkrTWEDJZax/
Also the above confirm the same wrong and neglectful approach to deal with the patients is being used in UK.

These stats are for US and UK but it's likely that this is going on everywhere.

Already by faking the death certificates on the ground of supposition and orders from above, it is obvious that the numbers of covid deaths is far bigger and faked as well, but then we find that out of nowhere the coronavirus victim numbers being spread in the media are around 2 times bigger than the official stats!

United Kingdom
media-death.png

This is the number spread in the TV, internet and all the mass-media means as of 17 of april, 2020
Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

ONS-death-uk.png

This is the value of the same day, given by the Office of National Statistics, which is a government body.
Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales
Notice how they say `Deaths involving covid`, and not `death caused by covid`

The number spread in the media is two times bigger than the number of the official government institute, and the number of the gov institute is invented as I said above out of orders from above and suppositions based on rules given by the government itself. It's glaringly obvious that 100% of what they tell the public in the media are pure iies and blatant manipulation and propaganda.

United States

us-media.png

This is the value as of today, 30 of april 2020, spread on the internet and all over the media
Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

us-gov-data.png

This is the number given by National Center for Health Statistics, US government institution
Source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/

They fake the official stats, they fake the death certificates, they deliberately kill people with the wrong treatment, and also many countries state that in 2020 they have far less deaths comparing to the same period of the previous years, yet you see what is happening with this `pandemic`. MANY victims did not die of any coronavirus, doctors cannot expose the real situation. The Humanity is brainwashed beyond any limit. What I posted here about the medical system is just a little leak from a handful of people who work there, it's possible that the real implications of this so called ``pandemic`` are far worse.
 
The Alchemist7 said:
StraitShot47 said:
Gear88 said:
EasternFireLion666 said:
Satanswarlord666 said:
Usthepeople666 said:


They kill them in the hospitals and fake the death certificates!

Whoever works in the medical field and dare to expose the real situations from the hospitals is instantly fired. This is why most doctors and people involved are afraid to show the truth to the public.

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=2vTZI4Ns24c
The above video is of a woman who has a friend working in a hospital in New York. According to her words, people who arrive at the intensive care in the hospitals are deliberately and purposefully given the wrong treatment which worsen their health condition until they die. Instead of giving them oxygen and intravenous vitamins for consolidating their breath and immune system, they are connected straight away to the ventilators which only put a strong pressure on their lungs in the case when their respiratory muscles do not have any problems and their lungs do not require ventilators. The medical staff implied in most if not all hospitals is told (((from above))) that this is the way they have to follow and they can't use other treatments. Apparently the reason why Boris Johnson recovered is because he was given oxygen and had not been connected to a ventilator, therefore he received the proper treatment for this medical issue, which apparently was indeed coronavirus.

There are people who get to intensive care without having any coronavirus but ALL OF THEM are treated like they have it, therefore they are given a wrong treatment for a medical condition that they do not suffer from. According to media, coronavirus in critical cases is supposed to cause pneumonia, which would indeed require the connection to a medical ventilator. Not all people who get there are suffering from pneumonia but as I said ALL OF THEM are treated like they have pneumonia from conoravirus, when in reality is not the case. Aside this, according to the youtube clip, the patients are completely neglected and let to die. This is coming from someone who's working at a hospital in New York.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ibWF2dVzAZFW/
This link basically confirms the same informations, this time coming from a doctor who from what I understand was fired for making public that video. This man basically complain about how irrational, wrong and neglectful is the way how the medical staff is treating the patients that get to intensive care.

THEY FAKE THE DEATH CERTIFICATES

https://www.bitchute.com/video/0zqIRxetYkkG/
The above physician also implied in the medical system from Minnesota states that he received an email from the Health Department through which he was `trained` on what to write on the death certificates.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/2T2qnV0vc13f/
The above mrs. physician brings information coming from official government bodies which are `instructing` the medical staff to write coronavirus as the main cause of death on the death certificate when the death had been caused by coronavirus-related symptoms, even if it hadn't been proven that the victims really had the virus or even without the victims being tested before dying.

UNited-KIngdom.png

Source: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-notes-for-completing-a-medical-certificate-of-cause-of-death

UNited-States.png

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf

Basically what the official government bodies from United States and United Kingdom want to impose is that if death came from a coronavirus-related symptom, then ALL DEATH CERTIFICATES of those victims should have coronavirus as death cause, not on the ground of official confirmation by testing, but on the ground of assumption and supposition that the victims might have had the virus, at the discretion of the doctors, doctors which have just been instructed by the government to write coronavirus as the main death cause! According to the above mrs. physician, not only during these times but generally speaking it is difficult to accurately find the real death cause especially when a person is suffering from multiple medical conditions. In New York doctors without their knowledge are instructed to induce death to the patients by respiratory means in order to be able to justify coronavirus as the death cause!

THEY FAKE THE OFFICIAL STATS

https://www.bitchute.com/video/1wkrTWEDJZax/
Also the above confirm the same wrong and neglectful approach to deal with the patients is being used in UK.

These stats are for US and UK but it's likely that this is going on everywhere.

Already by faking the death certificates on the ground of supposition and orders from above, it is obvious that the numbers of covid deaths is far bigger and faked as well, but then we find that out of nowhere the coronavirus victim numbers being spread in the media are around 2 times bigger than the official stats!

United Kingdom
media-death.png

This is the number spread in the TV, internet and all the mass-media means as of 17 of april, 2020
Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

ONS-death-uk.png

This is the value of the same day, given by the Office of National Statistics, which is a government body.
Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales
Notice how they say `Deaths involving covid`, and not `death caused by covid`

The number spread in the media is two times bigger than the number of the official government institute, and the number of the gov institute is invented as I said above out of orders from above and suppositions based on rules given by the government itself. It's glaringly obvious that 100% of what they tell the public in the media are pure iies and blatant manipulation and propaganda.

United States

us-media.png

This is the value as of today, 30 of april 2020, spread on the internet and all over the media
Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

us-gov-data.png

This is the number given by National Center for Health Statistics, US government institution
Source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/

They fake the official stats, they fake the death certificates, they deliberately kill people with the wrong treatment, and also many countries state that in 2020 they have far less deaths comparing to the same period of the previous years, yet you see what is happening with this `pandemic`. MANY victims did not die of any coronavirus, doctors cannot expose the real situation. The Humanity is brainwashed beyond any limit. What I posted here about the medical system is just a little leak from a handful of people who work there, it's possible that the real implications of this so called ``pandemic`` are far worse.

I looked over the links. This is disturbing... i have multiple thoughts ... anyway thanks a lot for the links!
 

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