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Saturn at the edge of the 1st House

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I remember Saturn was discussed in the main JoS e-group - Message #40335. Yet, how will its interpretation AND energies' display look like if it is on the edge of the 1st House? Will it still be the 'protector' of the person and interpreted as in the 1st House, OR will it be interpreted as the 2nd House? The planet is les than a degree away from the the edge of the 1st House.

Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!
 
Maybe it's a little of both?

I looked at message 40335 and I have Capricorn ascendant and that explains why my Saturn transits are not bad. Like when it was in my 8th house I became a Satanist. Thanks for pointing it out!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" <drammanoth@... wrote:

I remember Saturn was discussed in the main JoS e-group - Message #40335. Yet, how will its interpretation AND energies' display look like if it is on the edge of the 1st House? Will it still be the 'protector' of the person and interpreted as in the 1st House, OR will it be interpreted as the 2nd House? The planet is les than a degree away from the the edge of the 1st House.

Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!
 
Siguard, it is impossible to take one placement (Saturn conjunct Ascendant, for example) and make a judgement on what function the planet will serve to the native. The energies of this planet will be affected my all of the placements and aspects in the chart, not to mention transits.
By "edge", do you mean that Saturn is in the 1st house, near the cusp of the second?
Again, without seeing the entire chart, it is impossible to ascertain Saturn's role.
If Saturn is in the 29th degree of the sign it is in, that is a "critical point" and it will take on the characteristics of the subsequent sign.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" <ch_3_coo@... wrote:

Maybe it's a little of both?

I looked at message 40335 and I have Capricorn ascendant and that explains why my Saturn transits are not bad. Like when it was in my 8th house I became a Satanist. Thanks for pointing it out!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" <drammanoth@ wrote:

I remember Saturn was discussed in the main JoS e-group - Message #40335. Yet, how will its interpretation AND energies' display look like if it is on the edge of the 1st House? Will it still be the 'protector' of the person and interpreted as in the 1st House, OR will it be interpreted as the 2nd House? The planet is les than a degree away from the the edge of the 1st House.

Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!
 
1st of all, I know the terminology.

2nd of all, I clearly explained the case. When you analyse a chart, you CAN explain separate parts, which constitute the WHOLE.

It is the same with the human organism. It can be discussed in terms of its liver, heart, brain, etc. YET the parts are the pieces of the whole.

And just how a natal planet can transit a chart - a planet that is STATIC - in a set position - and does NOT move?

The entire chart is telling us how the PERSON will behave. The sign and house with the aspects to planet yes, they tell us about how the planet will behave - but this planet solely.

And no, this is not about the anaretic degree - this concerns the zodiac sign, whereas I was asking about the house.

Example: the cusp of the 2nd house is in 21°12' Vir, and Saturn is in 20°45' Vir.

Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Vesceles" <vesceles@... wrote:

Siguard, it is impossible to take one placement (Saturn conjunct Ascendant, for example) and make a judgement on what function the planet will serve to the native. The energies of this planet will be affected my all of the placements and aspects in the chart, not to mention transits.
By "edge", do you mean that Saturn is in the 1st house, near the cusp of the second?
Again, without seeing the entire chart, it is impossible to ascertain Saturn's role.
If Saturn is in the 29th degree of the sign it is in, that is a "critical point" and it will take on the characteristics of the subsequent sign.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" <ch_3_coo@ wrote:

Maybe it's a little of both?

I looked at message 40335 and I have Capricorn ascendant and that explains why my Saturn transits are not bad. Like when it was in my 8th house I became a Satanist. Thanks for pointing it out!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" <drammanoth@ wrote:

I remember Saturn was discussed in the main JoS e-group - Message #40335. Yet, how will its interpretation AND energies' display look like if it is on the edge of the 1st House? Will it still be the 'protector' of the person and interpreted as in the 1st House, OR will it be interpreted as the 2nd House? The planet is les than a degree away from the the edge of the 1st House.

Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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