Satan and Beelzebul rituals

[Seeker in the Dark]

So since they're the same being, is there still a point in doing their rituals separately? Or does each ritual address different aspects of the Head God (Baal for the material, Satan for the spiritual)?

 

[Hs666]

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Read Here: The Tripartite Nature Of Zeus: Satan/Beelzebul & Satanic Lore

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

Read Here: The Tripartite Nature Of Zeus: Satan/Beelzebul & Satanic Lore

How does this answer if I should do rituals for both or just for Baal now? Nowhere does it mention what I’m asking here

 

[Hs666]

How does this answer if I should do rituals for both or just for Baal now? Nowhere does it mention what I’m asking here

Tell me what you do not understand here, so I can explain:

Beelzebul and Azazel, or Satan, Beelzebul and Astarte, have formed historically many "Pagan Trinities" such as Anu, Enki & Enlil and in Sumeria, oftentimes, Isthar was also part of the original trinity. These trinities, also fall under the same concept, the most famous one being Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu [well known in the East and operating in the same way like the Tripartial Nature of Zeus operates].

These entities, albeit they are "3 and separate" they also appear as a unified form of the universal will, or "God".

In esoteric demonology of the enemy, similarly to how Zeus divides in 3 to "Run the Universe", as such Satan and Beelzebul and Belial do divide to "Run the realms of the damned". This represents a perversion, but the original thoughts before their corruption, are present in this thread that you are reading now.

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

Tell me what you do not understand here, so I can explain:

So are they (Baal and Satan) separate entities or the same entity? Are Baal and Satan one in will but seperate entities?

 

[Hs666]

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Yes, that's right. They are separate, which is why you have two Sigils and two Rituals.

 

[Egon]

Yes, that's right. They are separate, which is why you have two Sigils and two Rituals.

Incorrect. Zeus = Satan. The same Being, this has been clarified already.

One is called an Absolution Ritual, and the other is a Power Ritual. "Brother" is an allegory.

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

Yes, that's right. They are separate, which is why you have two Sigils and two Rituals.

Incorrect. Zeus = Satan. The same Being, this has been clarified already.

One is called an Absolution Ritual, and the other is a Power Ritual. "Brother" is an allegory.

So I’ll ask again, is there a point in doing both rituals or should i only do the Baal one? This wasn’t answered.

 

[AFODO]

Yes, that's right. They are separate, which is why you have two Sigils and two Rituals.

No, they are one being. JG Alexandros Iowno said (many times over, to all sorts of questions regarding this, asked from a different view point, yes he said clearly they are one single being, person entity) and also HPHC said they are one entity.

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Read the whole of this. He literally says

The Tengri and other question about Satan and Beelzebul is the same thing.

Let me explain, you will see what I mean.

The world is divided in two aspects: Created Universe, Uncreated Universe.

Satan and anything Spiritual, does fall under the uncreated universe (supernal, transcedental, spiritual)

Beelzebul is on the "manifested universe", ie, physical, set rules of the astral or material, and so on.

These two are One insofar the universe is one, in the same way potential and reality are connected.

I admit HPHC didn't speak about this clearly on the forum but JGAI explained it clearly on element that they are the same being.

 

[Hs666]

Incorrect. Zeus = Satan. The same Being, this has been clarified already.

One is called an Absolution Ritual, and the other is a Power Ritual. "Brother" is an allegory.

Yes, Zeus is Satan, but here I mean that Satan and Beelzebub are “separate” entities. Not Zeus and Satan.

Beelzebul and Azazel, or Satan, Beelzebul and Astarte, have formed historically many "Pagan Trinities" such as Anu, Enki & Enlil and in Sumeria, oftentimes, Isthar was also part of the original trinity. These trinities, also fall under the same concept, the most famous one being Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu [well known in the East and operating in the same way like the Tripartial Nature of Zeus operates].

These entities, albeit they are "3 and separate" they also appear as a unified form of the universal will, or "God".

 

[Hs666]

So I’ll ask again, is there a point in doing both rituals or should i only do the Baal one? This wasn’t answered.

The answer does not change, it makes sense and is correct to do and have both rituals.

 

[Henu the Great]

So I’ll ask again, is there a point in doing both rituals or should i only do the Baal one? This wasn’t answered.

You can do both.

HPHC has more than enough foresight not to release something that would be obsolete in such a way, in such a short period of time.

 

[Hidden Warrior]

As it has been already stated many times, Satan and Zeus are the same being, but these two Names represent two different aspects of existence. Consequently, if you do Satan's Absolution Ritual you connect yourself with a specific aspect of existence, when you do Baalzebul you connect to another one.
They are two rituals with different scope.

 

[Egon]

Yes, Zeus is Satan, but here I mean that Satan and Beelzebub are “separate” entities. Not Zeus and Satan.

No, aren't you up to date brother? They are NOT “separate” entities, Satan = Beelzebub = Zeus. The SAME Being, THIS has been clarified already by both HP and JGs', "Brothers" is an allegory:

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Please stay up to date.

 

[Hs666]

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The conversation is getting saturated, so it will be stopped. I have already said that your “reading” key: Zeus = Satan is correct.

 

[Egon]

The conversation is getting saturated, so it will be stopped. I have already said that your “reading” key: Zeus = Satan is correct.

It's not "my reading" and there's nothing saturated, you're skimming over new text for some weird reason.

It has been explicitly stated by the Clergy and Guardians that Beelzebub infact is Satan - one and the same BEING - with different aspects.
Read the Q&A and replies on the new sermons, and stay up to date.

 

[Hs666]

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I agree with you. Zeus is “Pantokrator,” that makes Satan and Beelzebub the same thing.

In the less “deep” key, then in their “function” they are “separate.” One represents “origin” the other “Manifestation.”

 

[EnkiUK56]

Tell me what you do not understand here, so I can explain:

Yeah when doing the 4 cardinal points do we just keep it the same as before?

 

[Egon]

Yeah when doing the 4 cardinal points do we just keep it the same as before?

Read to the Q&A post I linked, the 12 Olympians are divided in a group of 4 (elements) etc. They're the same 3 Gods with immense rulership of the universe.

 

[EnkiUK56]

Read to the Q&A post I linked, the 12 Olympians are divided in a group of 4 (elements) etc. They're the same 3 Gods with immense rulership of the universe.

Thank you brother