re: re-colonisation, re-building, re-transformation of Mars

[FancyMancy]

I am putting this here because it seems to be rather too far off-topic from this thread.

Why not Mars too and other places in this solar system I am sure several things can be a colony. Think with the mind of the future. The moon too we could probably make it have an atmosphere.

Don't get me started on this.... Too late.

Colonization of any planet that is not Earth-like is a pipe dream. Mars and the Moon lack proper atmosphere for a reason. Can you imagine the kind of mega-projects that would be needed to grant each of these bodies a magnetic field?

Let's say you do stick 'rods' North to South. What do you do about Gravity? Just think of how many generations of colonists would be suffering before their bodies can finally become adapted to 0.4 Gs or less.

You'll also be condemning these people to live perpetually indoors, maybe even underground.

There are only two ways we could populate the Solar System. We give in to trans-humanism and become cyborgs or we ascend to another level of existence -- neither option requires centuries of terraforming.

Mars is already inhabited by human-martians in their hibernation pods. They are waiting for us (some went to Earth to seek refuge after the atmosphere was nuked by the enemy armada) to develop strong spirituality and technology and to restore the planet.

Yeah we can rebuild it. Humanity will go from primitive to a super advanced civilization within about 50 years and fuck the normies who won't understand this stuff or be able to handle it we represent humanity not them.

Tiny, little organisms being put into proper soil (which would need to be transported there first) over centuries or millennia would help to start to build a less-than-decent atmosphere. Things like lichen, etc. Lichen with cyanobacterial symbionts helps to fix atmosphere nitrogen and thereby improve soil fertility too. [sciencedirect.com]

Lichens are interesting organisms. They are diverse, adaptable, functional, and little understood. They play an important role in our natural ecosystems and can let us know when those ecosystems are in trouble. Lichens are beautiful, especially when you view a lichen-drenched Douglas-fir or a colorful crust-covered cliff, and up close when viewed under a hand-lens or microscope. [fs.fed.us]

That being said, terraforming Mars to have an atmosphere again might be impossible due to a lack of carbon dioxide [newscientist.com]. Welp, maybe we should build some dirty industry over there first, then... Well, after the soil fertility (if you will), plants and trees would be done. This would build-up the oxygen levels, and the dirty industry (if in all serious that would be permitted and actually enacted or even enforced) would help to an extent. We have plenty more than enough pollution here, so some filtering and transporting, or if not filtering then just transporting, it to Mars, for it to dissipate and spread out over the Planet, might help.

...
A research team discovered this new oxygen-generating reaction by studying comets. Most of these small icy worlds originate in a distant area of the solar system known as the Oort Cloud, far beyond the orbit of Neptune.

That includes Pluto. :roll:

If a comet's orbit brings it close to the sun, heat begins pushing cometary ice off into space. This reaction produces long tails that can stretch for thousands of miles.

A team of researchers from the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) in Pasadena found a new way to explain how comets generate molecular oxygen, the two atoms of oxygen that come together to form breathable air.

One already-known method is through kinetic energy. A sublimating comet is a busy environment, where the solar wind (the constant stream of particles emanating from the sun) can push floating water molecules into the comet's surface at high speed. If there are oxygen-containing compounds on the surface, careening water molecules can rip oxygen atoms off and produce molecular oxygen.

Molecular oxygen can also be produced through carbon dioxide reactions, the team found. (Carbon dioxide contains a single carbon atom and two oxygen atoms.) Former Caltech postdoctoral fellow Yunxi Yao and current Caltech chemical engineering professor Konstantinos Giapis simulated this reaction by crashing carbon dioxide into gold foil. Since gold foil cannot be oxidized, by itself it should not produce any molecular oxygen. But when carbon dioxide careens into the foil at high speed, the gold surface emits molecular oxygen.

Diagram showing how carbon dioxide can be converted into molecular oxygen inside a reactor. (Image credit: Caltech)
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[space.com]

There would be technicians and computer systems, etc., on watch 24/7 (or the Mars equivalent). Of course, this is all very, very basic and simple, what I am saying (and mostly assuming) here. There would be much more complex matters, permissions, logistics, costs, etc. Not to mention, the use of Magick to aid in the transformation of Mars back into an on-surface liveable Planet. There would also be Animal pioneers, transported presumably as eggs and sperms, to be borne on the Planet Mars, as well... This includes worms, ants, etc., for the earth/soil, as well.

For the magnetic field - that would be a different matter on its own. Only 2 weeks ago there were articles about it.

Scientists Explore 'Unique' Ways To Create Artificial Magnetic Field On Mars
[ibtimes.com]

Scientists Have Made An Ambitious Plan To Terraform Mars - Creating A Magnetic Field Around It
[wonderfulengineering.com]

Scientists Propose Jumpstarting Mars' Magnetic Field to Make It Habitable
[futurism.com]

https://archive.md/69Hs3 (Only an abstract is available free. The search result showed the text, which I quoted, was on the webpage.)
https://archive.md/m4AeI
https://archive.md/zhNiG
https://archive.md/iqXQR
https://archive.md/qaNNH
https://archive.md/wRYJQ
https://archive.md/cTafW

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780081030172000106
https://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/beauty/lichens/index.shtml
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2175414-terraforming-mars-might-be-impossible-due-to-a-lack-of-carbon-dioxide
https://www.space.com/comet-tech-generate-breathable-air-mars.html
https://www.ibtimes.com/scientists-explore-unique-ways-create-artificial-magnetic-field-mars-3342417
https://wonderfulengineering.com/scientists-have-made-an-ambitious-plan-to-terraform-mars-creating-a-magnetic-field-around-it
https://futurism.com/scientists-propose-jumpstarting-mars-magnetic-field

 

[Inflorescentia]

From your last link.

Needless to say, creating a magnetic field would require massive resources;

Well, okay, we throw lichens at Mars and wait for a harvest that we'll never see in our lifetime, possibly several lifetimes if we're eager to come back at it as soon as we close accounts.

Still, no matter how long you're willing to wait for conditions to become bearable, there's the issue of Gravity. If we're to preserve our current makeup, we can only inhabit space habitats the like of Stanford Torus or the O'Neill Cylinder, not planetary surfaces.

I know, It's a bummer and it's against what Sci Fi has pushed for the most part.

 

[darkmonkey666]

Yes it may be hard but I think it was one of the goals. The Gods have technology we can barley even conceive. If they want Mars back or if they want to fix it for anyone still there it will be done.

But we need to get the enemy out of other places in the solar system too somehow. There were supposedly a couple bases at least here for them one on Mars from what I read. There is one on the moon. Maybe some elsewhere too.