Political sitiation in Europe Thread

[EasternFireLion666]

I was thinking of making a thread about this subject. I am a bit confused about many things. Maybe we could share some opinions and understand more.

It seems to me that the so called populists are rising in western Europe in countries such as Italy, France, Germany, Austria and even UK. We should see this in the results at the european elections hopefully and with some artillery support fron thr RTR. There are however two things. There is a lot of babbling about this populists that they may be pro russian. At least some. Poland has refused cooperation with Salvini. From all the populists i doubt the poles would ever be pro Russian.

When that piece of shit Macron said let's bring Poland back to the Europeam way... I was wondering what is European about Macron? The African migration? The tens of billions spent on Russian oil imports or the numerous trade contracts with China.
And what is non European about Poland? The fact that they prefer ethnically europeans only or that they have their own oil from the Baltic sea?
So i am pretty sure Poland wants to be independent... idk for sure about people like Orban or Salvini. They did have meetings with Putin and Netamyahu but then again actions are more important than declarations. I think Salvini was against the sanctions placed on Russia. Trump for example was tougher on Russia than anyone else.

Another thing is that while western Europe seems to be waking up, the eastern sector seems to be falling bad to the liberal leftist side. Countries like Romania, Slovakia and some from the balcanic sector.
In Romania for example the worst possible card ever has been played against one of the most stupid goym lands.
One of the most repulsive ex communist parties that is pro Israel and ties to Russia has pretended to be conservative and anti Soros. Now 99% of the youth, to be against the party and with the trend, is now pro Soros and mostly libtatded. Dare to even say the word Soros and they laugh at you and call you a socialist. It'a all a meme. All the new small parties that appeared over night are extremly pink and full of honey and no cortupts at all but are 150% cultural marxists and the youth love them as a reaction to the ex communists.

That is my side of the story but i want to hear from anyone else different oppinions. Any other country situations. Please share your opinions.

As for the romanians here, if you have any advice in regards to the upcoming euro elections please state them. I respect your opinions whichever they are and if i dissagree i will just offer you my justifications instead of being a triggered asshole as it happens daily in our beloved country...

 

[The Alchemist7 [JG]]

I believe there is no "pro-russian" or " pro-american" or "pro-german" stuff. There is just "pro-jews" and "anti-jews". Putin is a jew and what he does basically is to keep Russia under the same soviet like "democracy" and he aknowledged himself that he wants to bring back the Soviet Union.

"European way" from the view of Macron means rampant migration, multiculturalism, racial mix and all the related distructive programs. I guess there are't enough Africans in Poland to satisfy the racial mix standards of Macron so he and his zionist masters have to bring some more immigrants in Poland to move it back to the "European Way" of assimilating, destroying and disolving the Europe.

I think Salvini is one of a very few good politicians in Europe. He openly promoted a policy of anti-migration in Italy. I think this is why there have been these pro-migration and anti-racism" protests in Rome.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2018/11/thousands-march-rome-protest-climate-hatred-181110185924306.html

That news article say it openly, left side (where are all the jews and their programs) push openly for pro-migration protests and pressure on the government. Tens of thousands of borg Goyim are attacking the government who tries to protect their fucking lives by limitating African migration. As it was already said, if Greece and Italy would close their borders, this will stop the African migration in the entire Europe and this is why the jews are threatening so bad those two countries with economic collapse. I don't understand how so many Goyim were brainwashed and convinced to protest against something which is actually very beneficial for them.

As for Romania, is way too deeply burried in christianity. Is hopeless. I can't compare it with anything because I really doubt there is any other european country to be so affected in this extent. While the country is literally eaten alive by poverty and unemployment, he politicians are laughing in the face of the people and all the people do is to complain on Facebook and pray to Yahve to solve this as they put a big emphasis on the religion. It seems like they need some catastrophic event to wake them up.

Overall, still a strong jewish grip on Europe. I think gradually the jews are losing power in Europe because nationalism is slowly rising more and more in every country.

 

[Cro666]

The politicians/president have been draining the economy in the netherlands. there has been a crisis that in the eu for the longest time and the dutch ppl suffert from it greatly (A lot of ppl couldnt even buy food or clothes anymore there were a lot of these foodbanks where ppl could get old rotten food for their families) the crisis is supposed to be over but the situation for the ppl with minimum income is getting worse and worse. The minister president has done this to the ppl and and said that the only right party was to blame for a lot of this. at first glans it looks like its going great in the netherlands because all politicians and the news say that its going better and and better even tough that is not the case. they come with fake statistics over and over to prove everyone saying otherwise wrong.

3 years ago a new right wing party came into existence the fvd (forum for democracy), in the last regional elections they became the biggest party in the netherlands. It is a nationalistic party with some good idea's and also some awefull idea's for one they want that the schools are going to teach the children about the holo-hoax again. still it looks like this party is the only party that can get the netherlands out of the eu and give the democracy back to the ppl. The fvd wants to a lot of good things as well so a couple of misdirections well i can live with that for the time being.

One big problem is that quite a big part of the ppl are either idiots or ignorant. a big group of the idiots drink and do drugs all day everyday because thats the life you know :roll:. another group is extreem left dont have a single argument but still demonstrates against the right for being communist wich is a big lie the left wants to go towards communism they want to fight with if they cant fight they will destroy property all around the place. The last demonstration the left has done was not so long ago against ''racism'', those ppl were very agresive towards the right wing press (there are just a couple of right wing civilian presses), but gues what there was no left wing press there to document what happend there those ppl screamed that the leader of the fvd had to be shot amongst other things. the funiest part about all this is that there were left wings party members among those ppl so everything that happend was allowed because the demonstration was left. a lot of ppl in the netherlands still refuse to see the things the left is doing and they will either vote for left or not vote at all.

I could go on and on but i wont do that this forum wouldnt be big enough for it :lol:
I was thinking about posting something about the situation in the netherlands but i didnt because i tought that this might be the wrong place for it but now there is a actual tread to discuse this.

 

[Valontuoja]

Estonia just gained huge nationalist win were two nationalist parties (EKRE and Isamaa) gained huge win in the elections. I wrote a short post about that, not going to repeat it.

Finland has parliamentary elections tomorrow. According to polls the Finns Party (Perussuomalaiset) is doing pretty well even-though media tried to turn this into "climate elections" instead of discussing about immigration issues. We had some refugees doing pedophilic sex crimes in Oulu last year which kinda helped to get people pissed off. Also according to some sources this climate crisis has gotten people to vote for the Finns Party as they are the only party which doesn't demand as much self-sacrificing for the sake of climate as other parties.

It's a possibility that the Finns Party could get the most votes tomorrow. Either them or the Social democratic party.

http://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/politics/16335-yle-national-coalition-overtaken-in-second-place-by-finns-party.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/12/world/europe/finland-populism-immigration-climate-change.html

The Finns Party advertisement movie (English subtitles available):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzCK4tTu2nE

 

[Taol]

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No its fine, I've mentioned several things about NL myself as well. There are some dutch members on the forum but I bet you can still count them on one or two hands.

I remember in my class (32 people) maybe 2-3 didn't go out getting wasted each weekend and that was in secundary ed. Pretty much ages 12-17/18 depending on the course of education you took.
So I guess it is more or less safe to say that nearly 100% of the population has ended up going being drunk at some point of their lives.

And 90% having done drugs or got totally wasted on alcohol and went clubbing and sht every single weekend if not more often.. I was surprised to hear that this habit has been in place in the generation of my parents for people that went to university even.. Though I guess I shouldn't be that surprised.. it was like the 70's and 80's at that time..


Did you know that Germany taxes any company that sells stuff outside the country to citizens of their country? o.o Like wtf.
I also heard the dumb argument 'I dont want to live in Germany because the tax and everything you'd have to pay is so high' .. Im like.. If I see what the f we are required to pay here.. I'd almost call myself stupid for not going.

Oh ye remember who bailed greece out? NL. We almost had a bank collapse more or less because of the loans to Greece getting scrapped (apparently we gave them most of the funds). And then the gov stepped in to push some money back in to keep that bank going.

And in the meantime we've had increase in tax on whatever we buy, from 19% on non consumables to 21, then the food went from 6% to 9% .. and in the meantime everything got more expensive.
In the last 5 years, the price of food (certain foods) increased by about 1.5 times.
Oh and the 'cheapest supermarket' slogan from Jumbo doesn't hold up.
3 euro 10 cents for 10 L eggs wtf. A bag of potatoes of 2 kg 4 euro something. If you try 5kg you'd almost pay 10 bucks.
So we shop elsewhere for the most food.

Oh and the tax on electricity got doubled (again) recently.
And now they're all like 'climate neutral zones and pushing for solar panels on every roof and electric cars yadayada' basicly telling the population with little funds to begin with to change their system and then saying that to inspire to do this they'd increase that tax I just mentioned.. so whatever little they have gets even less and its all for the citizen to pay. You don't even get a subsidization for this.

And in the meantime you get those stupid ugly ass meaningless crap that portrays as enrichment of the city or something that has been payed for by tax funds but in the flippin meantime nothing is done about the actual problems..
https://www.uitzendinggemist.net/programmas/18739-Van_Onze_Centen.html

Thats a show that goes shows some examples ^

As for the compulsory paid for health-care system..
There are a lot of people here that are ill. Have cancer. That get expensive treatment that other people have to pay for. The healthcare thing as a result has said rather than a certain 100% they'd give back for it, they'd only do 80% in some cases. So you'd have to pay the other 20% yourself even if thats 100s of euros.


But please go on ahead about this stuff with what you know. Different perspectives help

 

[EasternFireLion666]

The politicians/president have been draining the economy in the netherlands. there has been a crisis that in the eu for the longest time and the dutch ppl suffert from it greatly (A lot of ppl couldnt even buy food or clothes anymore there were a lot of these foodbanks where ppl could get old rotten food for their families) the crisis is supposed to be over but the situation for the ppl with minimum income is getting worse and worse. The minister president has done this to the ppl and and said that the only right party was to blame for a lot of this. at first glans it looks like its going great in the netherlands because all politicians and the news say that its going better and and better even tough that is not the case. they come with fake statistics over and over to prove everyone saying otherwise wrong.

3 years ago a new right wing party came into existence the fvd (forum for democracy), in the last regional elections they became the biggest party in the netherlands. It is a nationalistic party with some good idea's and also some awefull idea's for one they want that the schools are going to teach the children about the holo-hoax again. still it looks like this party is the only party that can get the netherlands out of the eu and give the democracy back to the ppl. The fvd wants to a lot of good things as well so a couple of misdirections well i can live with that for the time being.

One big problem is that quite a big part of the ppl are either idiots or ignorant. a big group of the idiots drink and do drugs all day everyday because thats the life you know :roll:. another group is extreem left dont have a single argument but still demonstrates against the right for being communist wich is a big lie the left wants to go towards communism they want to fight with if they cant fight they will destroy property all around the place. The last demonstration the left has done was not so long ago against ''racism'', those ppl were very agresive towards the right wing press (there are just a couple of right wing civilian presses), but gues what there was no left wing press there to document what happend there those ppl screamed that the leader of the fvd had to be shot amongst other things. the funiest part about all this is that there were left wings party members among those ppl so everything that happend was allowed because the demonstration was left. a lot of ppl in the netherlands still refuse to see the things the left is doing and they will either vote for left or not vote at all.

I could go on and on but i wont do that this forum wouldnt be big enough for it :lol:
I was thinking about posting something about the situation in the netherlands but i didnt because i tought that this might be the wrong place for it but now there is a actual tread to discuse this.

I'm sorry to hear all this. I hope the rtr will hit the fan as well in your country as it is a beautifull one. The left has too much influence on the media.

As for the drug and alcohol madness i saw this in other places as well and it is sad. Catalonia for example...

Let's see the results in may because even if some countries still have a left majority it would at least be good overall if Europe finally turns conservative.

What angers me all the time is this 50 - 50 choice. You are either conservative but christian or you finally get rid of xianity but you become a leftist...

 

[EasternFireLion666]

I believe there is no "pro-russian" or " pro-american" or "pro-german" stuff. There is just "pro-jews" and "anti-jews". Putin is a jew and what he does basically is to keep Russia under the same soviet like "democracy" and he aknowledged himself that he wants to bring back the Soviet Union.

"European way" from the view of Macron means rampant migration, multiculturalism, racial mix and all the related distructive programs. I guess there are't enough Africans in Poland to satisfy the racial mix standards of Macron so he and his zionist masters have to bring some more immigrants in Poland to move it back to the "European Way" of assimilating, destroying and disolving the Europe.

I think Salvini is one of a very few good politicians in Europe. He openly promoted a policy of anti-migration in Italy. I think this is why there have been these pro-migration and anti-racism" protests in Rome.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2018/11/thousands-march-rome-protest-climate-hatred-181110185924306.html

That news article say it openly, left side (where are all the jews and their programs) push openly for pro-migration protests and pressure on the government. Tens of thousands of borg Goyim are attacking the government who tries to protect their fucking lives by limitating African migration. As it was already said, if Greece and Italy would close their borders, this will stop the African migration in the entire Europe and this is why the jews are threatening so bad those two countries with economic collapse. I don't understand how so many Goyim were brainwashed and convinced to protest against something which is actually very beneficial for them.

As for Romania, is way too deeply burried in christianity. Is hopeless. I can't compare it with anything because I really doubt there is any other european country to be so affected in this extent. While the country is literally eaten alive by poverty and unemployment, he politicians are laughing in the face of the people and all the people do is to complain on Facebook and pray to Yahve to solve this as they put a big emphasis on the religion. It seems like they need some catastrophic event to wake them up.

Overall, still a strong jewish grip on Europe. I think gradually the jews are losing power in Europe because nationalism is slowly rising more and more in every country.

One good and surprising thing i see about Russia is that people seem to be srsky waking up and turning against Putin. He is holdong on trpugh fraud and he imprisoned Navalny last year to win but the youth hates him bad. He is gonna crack eventally and the same goes for Netanyahu as the juice are turning against eachother.

As for Romania, i think xianity is slowly dying but the ones that are not xians are liberals... this does not help. We don t really have a conservative move yet... i personally continue to hope but at least i can help other areas with rtrs.

 

[Cro666]

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I didnt want to go into to much detail about this stuff but that is just the tip of the iceberg. Its just been recently that ive started to get intrest in politics again and what im seeing there ff. its like a room full of little children that can only say what they are ''programmed'' to say. its rare to see them talk about anything usefull even when they get critique they use a couple of fancy words that explains nothing at all and thats it they just brush and laugh any critique away. When anyone asks the minister president about the increase of taxes or the cost of new projects he says well there are statistics that explains the costs.

there is a new plan for climate change, noone asked for this and nl is pretty clean if you compare it to most other countries. but no no no nl has to be the first country that is running completely on green power. wich is impossible the costs will go up to 1000 million euro's, a lot of jobs will be lost, a lot of loans will have to be taken by every person that owns a house (around 40k per house) ppl need to buy other cars. electricity usage will skyrocket something that those couple of windmills and solar panels cant keep up with. so power has to be bought from other countries making the price of electricty even higher its already increadibly high.

dont forget that everyone has to pay for their waste now about 250 euro base price on a year basis + around 40 euros for every container you fill up, not even speaking about the costs for bringing trash to the dump or the new sewage costs.

People that say that germany is to expensive are crazy, A lot of ppl in the nl move to germany because its so much better there than in the netherlands.

Anyway its not something we should really care about to much, I like to know whats going on but i know everything will be fine especialy with the rtr's that are going on.

 

[Taol]

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I didnt want to go into to much detail about this stuff but that is just the tip of the iceberg. Its just been recently that ive started to get intrest in politics again and what im seeing there ff. its like a room full of little children that can only say what they are ''programmed'' to say. its rare to see them talk about anything usefull even when they get critique they use a couple of fancy words that explains nothing at all and thats it they just brush and laugh any critique away. When anyone asks the minister president about the increase of taxes or the cost of new projects he says well there are statistics that explains the costs.

there is a new plan for climate change, noone asked for this and nl is pretty clean if you compare it to most other countries. but no no no nl has to be the first country that is running completely on green power. wich is impossible the costs will go up to 1000 million euro's, a lot of jobs will be lost, a lot of loans will have to be taken by every person that owns a house (around 40k per house) ppl need to buy other cars. electricity usage will skyrocket something that those couple of windmills and solar panels cant keep up with. so power has to be bought from other countries making the price of electricty even higher its already increadibly high.

dont forget that everyone has to pay for their waste now about 250 euro base price on a year basis + around 40 euros for every container you fill up, not even speaking about the costs for bringing trash to the dump or the new sewage costs.

People that say that germany is to expensive are crazy, A lot of ppl in the nl move to germany because its so much better there than in the netherlands.

Anyway its not something we should really care about to much, I like to know whats going on but i know everything will be fine especialy with the rtr's that are going on.

Yes I know :s.

Did you know as a herb gatherer if you go out and pick wild growing herbs you are not allowed to pick them from the places that are next to busy roads? Due to the toxicity and dust from the waste that comes from the cars?
And yet I see entire fields with cows on them right next to the highways and fields with fruit trees on them. In germany I saw fields full of grains right next to the highway that has unlimited speed on it when you cross the border on the eastside of NL.
Just imagine how toxic and bad that could be for your health if you're not even allowed to pick herbs from next to busy roads.
Im not even talking about fields that are at a distance from the road, Im talking about the kind of field that if you were to lose control of your car and you'd slip of the road you'd instantly crash onto those fields.

It is outraging what is going on.

A summary of what a household pays in a month:
- Health insurance
- Rent/paying off loan of the house
- Electricity/gas bill
- Car insurance
- Road tax
- Gas (with tax)
- Luxury tax because you own a car (though not sure if that is a yearly thing or not)
- Food
- Clothes and other stuff if needed
- Insurance for if your house burned down
(Not sure about this one entirely: Insurance for if you break something of someone else - I know this is paid if you go on vacation somewhere though).
- Income tax.
- There is also some kind of yearly tax from Belastingdienst that you're required to pay over whatever you've earned in that year. I think that this is different from the tax that is on the Bruto pay vs the Netto pay (after tax and some other things)

And there are probably a few others that I've missed.
Like I know that there is some kind of insurance to pay for if you get dragged into a court case. That you can come through those without having to sell your entire everything..

Basicly.. All your money gets used up in a month. And it doesn't pay to earn over like what 50.000 a year because then you'd have to give half to the Belastingdienst anyway.
Aside from that. The bigger the income the bigger the house that you are forced to live in.

Not to mention the shortage of housing. It can take a flippin 10 years for a place to free up for you to live if you want to rent.
There is a website you can sign up for but the houses are limited to zones, so you'd have to think of 'where do I want to live' and then decide, wait 2-3 years and then go SUPER active in house hunting before even having some of a chance to be put on the 'important' list to be even recommended enough to get a place to live.

Yet there is housing for immigrants no problem. If they all got kicked out I bet that list with people waiting for housing would suddenly disappear.

And then Im not even speaking about the unimployment rate.
Aside from the people that don't work anymore because they're retired.. I was looking around for figures in my area alone.. Over 20.000 people that are on tax welfare pretty much in like what.. how many provinces are there? 1/12 not counting the isles.. Did count Flevoland though.. thats techniquely a manmade isle.
A percentage does not say a whole lot. Numbers (like the above) say more.