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• ‘Aryan’ is derived from ‘Arya’ meaning noble/esteemed Indo-European, in Sanskrit.
• European Nationalists created the Aryan Invasion/Immigration Theory in the 18th Century. If Hinduism is chided as an outside source, then Christian and Muslim invaders can't be blamed.
• The Central Asian Yamnaya of the Pontic Steppe (4,000-3,000 BCE) came from India -- as they were, figuratively, the 'step' away from India into Europe. Geneticist David Reich claims that the Yamnaya ventured out from the Steppe 5,300 years ago, going to Europe, Russia and India.
• Mainstream science claims there were proto-Yamnaya people in Ukraine, the Sredny Stog,' about 5,500 years ago (3,500 BCE), who had R1A DNA. This was about 1,000 years before the Corded Ware (proto-Germanic) culture expanded, as these people had R1B haplogroup, which is very similar DNA to R1A. The proto-Yamnaya existed before the R1A genetic biomarker ever entered India; however, R1A1 has a greater diversity in India, its land of origin. Sharma et al. (2009) state it could have been between 18 to 40 thousand years ago.
• Brown Dravidians (modern Indians) and Indo-Aryans have mixed races so much that it is now impossible to differentiate their lineages via genetic testing. The West lies about this, stating Dravidians go back 108 generations, while Aryans go back only 72. Modern Indo-Aryans are hardly white.
• There are claims that there were no spoked wheels in Harappa, but there have been terracotta remains of these that were dug up. They appear halfway through the Rig Veda, but India is too humid for wooden implements. Chariots were found in India and Central Asia 4,000 years ago.
• There is no evidence of an Aryan Invasion/Immigration 3,500 years ago into India. Mainstream science claims it proves the Aryan Invasion Theory, but there is no archeological proof. Scientists stone-walled the Out of India thesis.
• The Harappan people of the Indus Valley were the Vedic (Aryan) people. Of the Rig Veda’s earlier layers (10:75:5-6), is from the Ganga River to the West tributaries of Sindhu. Even earlier, the Saraswati River in Haryana is where most settlements of the Harappan civilization were located.
• Archaeologist B.B. Lal found clay pottery deeper inside India, as academia called this evidence of Indo-Europeans penetrating deeper into India, but Dr. Lal no longer even believed this was evidence of anything, as he was just trying to fit his new research in with the already standing narrative — later realizing it was merely a hypothesis.
• Geneticists throw around the term ‘proof’ when there is a conflict of opinion in the field. The Harappan biomarker isn’t tied to a specific language.
• The Rig Veda, an ancient Aryan text, describes the Eastern Ganga Goddess of the Ganges River, where chronology then spreads West to Afghanistan — establishing a gradient (out of India).
• The Vedic Index of Names and Subjects book (Keith, Macdonall): Events 2,200 BCE incorrectly coincide with those of 800 BCE.
• Sanskrit is far more similar to European languages (like Latin) than it is to Tamil.
• There is no evidence that Aryans came from the North.
• Around 2,900 BCE, Central Europe experienced an invasion from the East, with upheaval and partial population replacements, as traced through genetic studies.
• Philologist (studies language through literature), Dr. Friedrich Max Müller, put the first Vedic hymns chronologically after the fall of Harappan civilization. This was arbitrary conjecture but has established a paradigm for the Aryan Invasion Theory. Dr. Lal had put the Rig Veda mostly around the third millennium BCE, which is one or two millennia before Dr. Müller’s account.
• The Mitanni Aryans of Syria were thought to be the ones who entered India because their local Hurrian language in 1,500 BCE contained Sanskrit words. There were also sculptures from 2,000 BCE of Mitanni found on the way from Russia to India (Bactria-Margiana Archeological Complex); however, this proves that the Central Asian Bactrians were the predecessors of Mitanni, Syria. This only shows that the migration was from East to West. No movement going to Bactria ever went beyond it.
• There are claims against the Out of India thesis because there were more horse skeletons in later Aryan (Vedic) cities, but this doesn’t disprove Aryans are from India. There were horse skeletons in Surkutada, verified by the Hungarian horse specialist, Sándor Bökönyi.
• Mainstream science claims that the Yamnaya DNA entered India after the Yamnaya people existed in Central Asia.
• Harappa had Aryan Shiva worship, where he wears a bull (horned) helmet and has a trident, while sitting in a yogic meditation pose. The picture is depicted as Kernunnos in Celtic mythology but with antlers.
• Aryan Invasion/Immigration Theory states that Aryans came from Central Asia and spread their genetics, but somehow lost their language when assimilated.
Sources:
survivethejive.blogspot.com
www.hhmi.org
koenraadelst.blogspot.com
koenraadelst.blogspot.com
www.smithsonianmag.com
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• European Nationalists created the Aryan Invasion/Immigration Theory in the 18th Century. If Hinduism is chided as an outside source, then Christian and Muslim invaders can't be blamed.
• The Central Asian Yamnaya of the Pontic Steppe (4,000-3,000 BCE) came from India -- as they were, figuratively, the 'step' away from India into Europe. Geneticist David Reich claims that the Yamnaya ventured out from the Steppe 5,300 years ago, going to Europe, Russia and India.
• Mainstream science claims there were proto-Yamnaya people in Ukraine, the Sredny Stog,' about 5,500 years ago (3,500 BCE), who had R1A DNA. This was about 1,000 years before the Corded Ware (proto-Germanic) culture expanded, as these people had R1B haplogroup, which is very similar DNA to R1A. The proto-Yamnaya existed before the R1A genetic biomarker ever entered India; however, R1A1 has a greater diversity in India, its land of origin. Sharma et al. (2009) state it could have been between 18 to 40 thousand years ago.
• Brown Dravidians (modern Indians) and Indo-Aryans have mixed races so much that it is now impossible to differentiate their lineages via genetic testing. The West lies about this, stating Dravidians go back 108 generations, while Aryans go back only 72. Modern Indo-Aryans are hardly white.
• There are claims that there were no spoked wheels in Harappa, but there have been terracotta remains of these that were dug up. They appear halfway through the Rig Veda, but India is too humid for wooden implements. Chariots were found in India and Central Asia 4,000 years ago.
• There is no evidence of an Aryan Invasion/Immigration 3,500 years ago into India. Mainstream science claims it proves the Aryan Invasion Theory, but there is no archeological proof. Scientists stone-walled the Out of India thesis.
• The Harappan people of the Indus Valley were the Vedic (Aryan) people. Of the Rig Veda’s earlier layers (10:75:5-6), is from the Ganga River to the West tributaries of Sindhu. Even earlier, the Saraswati River in Haryana is where most settlements of the Harappan civilization were located.
• Archaeologist B.B. Lal found clay pottery deeper inside India, as academia called this evidence of Indo-Europeans penetrating deeper into India, but Dr. Lal no longer even believed this was evidence of anything, as he was just trying to fit his new research in with the already standing narrative — later realizing it was merely a hypothesis.
• Geneticists throw around the term ‘proof’ when there is a conflict of opinion in the field. The Harappan biomarker isn’t tied to a specific language.
• The Rig Veda, an ancient Aryan text, describes the Eastern Ganga Goddess of the Ganges River, where chronology then spreads West to Afghanistan — establishing a gradient (out of India).
• The Vedic Index of Names and Subjects book (Keith, Macdonall): Events 2,200 BCE incorrectly coincide with those of 800 BCE.
• Sanskrit is far more similar to European languages (like Latin) than it is to Tamil.
• There is no evidence that Aryans came from the North.
• Around 2,900 BCE, Central Europe experienced an invasion from the East, with upheaval and partial population replacements, as traced through genetic studies.
• Philologist (studies language through literature), Dr. Friedrich Max Müller, put the first Vedic hymns chronologically after the fall of Harappan civilization. This was arbitrary conjecture but has established a paradigm for the Aryan Invasion Theory. Dr. Lal had put the Rig Veda mostly around the third millennium BCE, which is one or two millennia before Dr. Müller’s account.
• The Mitanni Aryans of Syria were thought to be the ones who entered India because their local Hurrian language in 1,500 BCE contained Sanskrit words. There were also sculptures from 2,000 BCE of Mitanni found on the way from Russia to India (Bactria-Margiana Archeological Complex); however, this proves that the Central Asian Bactrians were the predecessors of Mitanni, Syria. This only shows that the migration was from East to West. No movement going to Bactria ever went beyond it.
• There are claims against the Out of India thesis because there were more horse skeletons in later Aryan (Vedic) cities, but this doesn’t disprove Aryans are from India. There were horse skeletons in Surkutada, verified by the Hungarian horse specialist, Sándor Bökönyi.
• Mainstream science claims that the Yamnaya DNA entered India after the Yamnaya people existed in Central Asia.
• Harappa had Aryan Shiva worship, where he wears a bull (horned) helmet and has a trident, while sitting in a yogic meditation pose. The picture is depicted as Kernunnos in Celtic mythology but with antlers.
• Aryan Invasion/Immigration Theory states that Aryans came from Central Asia and spread their genetics, but somehow lost their language when assimilated.
Sources:
Aryan Invasion of India: Myth or Reality?
survivethejive.blogspot.com
Ancient DNA Offers New Insights into the Origins and Spread of Languages and Populations Across the Southern Arc | HHMI
Analyzing DNA from the remains of hundreds of ancient humans across West Asia, the Balkans, Greece, present-day Turkey, and other regions, scientists have revealed surprising migrations that illuminate human history and led to the languages billions of people speak today.
The Andronovo cradle of Indo-Iranian?
( India Facts , 31 May 2016) In 2006, the late Russian archaeologist Elena Kuzmina wrote a hefty book on the Origin of the ...
koenraadelst.blogspot.com
Genetic proof for the AIT? Look again.
Authorities on science and the scientific temper very wisely teach students never to use Wikipedia as a source: it is often amateurish and ...
koenraadelst.blogspot.com
Rare Ancient DNA Provides Window Into a 5,000-Year-Old South Asian Civilization
The Indus Valley Civilization flourished alongside Mesopotamia and Egypt, but the early society remains shrouded in mystery
www.smithsonianmag.com
Two new genetic studies upheld Indo-Aryan migration. So why did Indian media report the opposite?
Science is proving India's incredible diversity. But this clashes directly with Hindutva’s racially nativist understanding of the subcontinent.
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