Opening chakras

[Low Priest]

Should I be opening my chakras if I can't do void?

 

[Shael]

Anyone can do void. It requires no specific posture, breathing, or sounds to do, so you can do it anytime. If you mean that you can't control your thoughts, then this is merely a matter of practice and persistence. Void Meditation is required as a fundamental skill for all types of magick, so you must learn and master it if you want to get any visible amount of power.

 

[Aldrick Strickland]

Should I be opening my chakras if I can't do void?

No. The thoughts will only increase. Void and blast your aura clean.

 

[RoseWolf]

I would suggest you do practice void meditation first and train your mind. Find what works for you. I prefer practicing been present such as using my senses throughout the things i do. Helps me to focus and bring my mind back and be present. It does train your mind.

As stated in joyofsatan.org in Opening of the chakras :

"Void meditation is highly recommended in order to control the thoughts and mind that will be stimulated by the opening of the chakras"

Is there a reason why you say you cant do Void meditation?

 

[Low Priest]

I would suggest you do practice void meditation first and train your mind. Find what works for you. I prefer practicing been present such as using my senses throughout the things i do. Helps me to focus and bring my mind back and be present. It does train your mind.

As stated in joyofsatan.org in Opening of the chakras :

"Void meditation is highly recommended in order to control the thoughts and mind that will be stimulated by the opening of the chakras"

Is there a reason why you say you cant do Void meditation?

I recently got a job and I can't stop thinking/talking in in my head but even with all the chatter I still get my job done. I say a bunch of things that I don't mean or care much about, also they can be quite self sabotaging (like calling myself a pedofile,saying nigger,and all kinda of trash talk to others around me)
And even if I am quiet, people tell me to turn off my mind....idk what they mean because I was already quiet and now they've just stirred up my mind.
At this point I just live with it and the shame I bring myself, I'm not even embarrassed anymore and have come to a conclusion that this is me. A very negative and terrible person at soul.

 

[Low Priest]

Should I be opening my chakras if I can't do void?

No. The thoughts will only increase. Void and blast your aura clean.

How can I use water to clean my aura??? Like when I'm in the shower??

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

I say a bunch of things that I don't mean or care much about, also they can be quite self sabotaging (like calling myself a pedofile,saying nigger,and all kinda of trash talk to others around me)

Why do you say those things? I think you shouldn't say things like that. Develop just a little bit of self control, you don't need much.

And even if I am quiet, people tell me to turn off my mind....idk what they mean because I was already quiet and now they've just stirred up my mind.

Do they actually speak to you and tell you, speaking through their mouth, that you should make your mind quiet? Or do you just get some kind of feeling or idea that they would say that to you, like telepathically? Because there was someone here before who was convinced that everyone around her could hear her thoughts and would telepathically yell at her to stop thinking so loud. But the truth is nobody could ever hear any of her thoughts. She was just imagining it all because she was so paranoid from smoking a lot of weed that it made her crazy.

 

[Aquarius]

Should I be opening my chakras if I can't do void?

No. The thoughts will only increase. Void and blast your aura clean.

How can I use water to clean my aura??? Like when I'm in the shower??

He didn’t mean with water, it’s just a way of saying, like clean it very effectively.

 

[Ara666]

Should I be opening my chakras if I can't do void?

No. The thoughts will only increase. Void and blast your aura clean.

How can I use water to clean my aura??? Like when I'm in the shower??

Why do you assume you have to use water in order to clean your aura??? :lol:

Cleaning your aura means this: https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Aura_Cleaning.html

Have you read the JoS website at all?

 

[Low Priest]

No. The thoughts will only increase. Void and blast your aura clean.

How can I use water to clean my aura??? Like when I'm in the shower??

Why do you assume you have to use water in order to clean your aura??? :lol:

Cleaning your aura means this: https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Aura_Cleaning.html

Have you read the JoS website at all?

I forgot what Jos PDF I read that referenced the author Franz Bardon, i checked don't his book and it said use water to clean your soul by imagining that your not just washing your body but dirt fall off your soul too. And we'll I don't if by imagine they mean like picture it in your head like an abstract image or does "visualize" mean to like think you feel it and think it's there?
I just wanted to be clear on what visualize meant. Like in my head do I picture light all around me or do I think I feel it and think it's there? Because I can't feel it or know if it's there

 

[NoCreativeNameHereV2]

Why do you assume you have to use water in order to clean your aura??? :lol:

Cleaning your aura means this: https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Aura_Cleaning.html

Have you read the JoS website at all?

Its been said by a member that you can clean your aura while bathing or showering...My guess for this would be to visualize the water as a gold liquid cleaning the dirt from your aura and soul. Visualization and Intent are important when cleaning the aura...Well thats my take on it anyway

HAIL SATAN AND ALL THOSE ALLIED TO HIM :smile:

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Why do you assume you have to use water in order to clean your aura??? :lol:

Cleaning your aura means this: https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Aura_Cleaning.html

Have you read the JoS website at all?

Its been said by a member that you can clean your aura while bathing or showering...My guess for this would be to visualize the water as a gold liquid cleaning the dirt from your aura and soul. Visualization and Intent are important when cleaning the aura...Well thats my take on it anyway

HAIL SATAN AND ALL THOSE ALLIED TO HIM :smile:

You don't need any golden showers! Just a regular one. When you are washing yourself, see chunks of grey energy are coming out of you and getting washed away. Very easy

 

[Shael]

You don't need any golden showers!

Lol.

 

[Low Priest]

[/quote]
You don't need any golden showers! Just a regular one. When you are washing yourself, see chunks of grey energy are coming out of you and getting washed away. Very easy[/quote].
Does it not have any effect to use "gold showers" what if I use white?
What about drinking water??

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

You don't need any golden showers! Just a regular one. When you are washing yourself, see chunks of grey energy are coming out of you and getting washed away. Very easy[/quote].
Does it not have any effect to use "gold showers" what if I use white?
What about drinking water??[/quote]
Use soap and water...

 

[NoCreativeNameHereV2]

You don't need any golden showers! Just a regular one. When you are washing yourself, see chunks of grey energy are coming out of you and getting washed away. Very easy

LOL, I didnt mean it in that sense I mean as in visualizing it as energy, since its instructed on the cleaning aura page to visualize your aura and soul filled with gold energy. Thats what I meant by it....Apologies for not making more sense in my previous comment :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Gearshift]

Should I be opening my chakras if I can't do void?

No. The thoughts will only increase. Void and blast your aura clean.

Mind elaborating?

What exactly is meant by thoughts will increase. Are you stating the strength of them, the amount, the volume? Exactly what is increase in your definition?

I ask because well it's been a while since last year's revision that I've done opening, I don't mantra nor do much with chakras almost ignore them really. But what I have been doing for several months now is telling them to spin and vibrate at the speed of light. I was spin while cleaning but decided to change the routine.

So I notice something that I've been walking around my house a lot and thinking. In fact I've probably delved into being a psychopath but anyways what I'm trying to state is is spin doing something similar to opening with mantras?

Also I should point out one more inquiry I have. Is it possible to push yourself so much with what I'm doing or what Low Priest wants to do that void becomes an impossibility?

The reason why I'm not bothered very much about my mind and thoughts is I'm really used to it and I do have a astrological penchant to perform walking and thinking in a very rapid and vicious way. It's from a blog I read on astrology that I liked the information presented and does state a very active mental mind, both in the conscious matter and unconscious matter.

I hope what I said makes sense in your reply. I probably butchered what I wanted to state. But at least the gist of it I said.

 

[Aldrick Strickland]

Should I be opening my chakras if I can't do void?

No. The thoughts will only increase. Void and blast your aura clean.

Mind elaborating?

What exactly is meant by thoughts will increase. Are you stating the strength of them, the amount, the volume? Exactly what is increase in your definition?

I ask because well it's been a while since last year's revision that I've done opening, I don't mantra nor do much with chakras almost ignore them really. But what I have been doing for several months now is telling them to spin and vibrate at the speed of light. I was spin while cleaning but decided to change the routine.

So I notice something that I've been walking around my house a lot and thinking. In fact I've probably delved into being a psychopath but anyways what I'm trying to state is is spin doing something similar to opening with mantras?

Also I should point out one more inquiry I have. Is it possible to push yourself so much with what I'm doing or what Low Priest wants to do that void becomes an impossibility?

The reason why I'm not bothered very much about my mind and thoughts is I'm really used to it and I do have a astrological penchant to perform walking and thinking in a very rapid and vicious way. It's from a blog I read on astrology that I liked the information presented and does state a very active mental mind, both in the conscious matter and unconscious matter.

I hope what I said makes sense in your reply. I probably butchered what I wanted to state. But at least the gist of it I said.

When you open a chakra, each chakra rules over a portion of your brain. It opens that portion of your brain. So you go from using 5 percent of your brain to using 7 percent. More brain, equals more bioelectricity, this is why Meditation increases your bioelectricity. Thoughts are electrical impulses. You increase the voltage and activate new areas of the mind.

You now have more thoughts then you would have otherwise. So now more void is needed, it states this right on the opening chakras page.

As for pacing around your house dreaming of being a psychopath, yeah you might have a little bit of a problem there.

Humans all want control. When your mind slips out of your control and so does your life. The mind looks for how it can regain control. Delusion can bring safety. Like Pisces is known for insanity because it runs away someplace else mentally.

Where it has full control of all the rules. So control is felt in the Delusion. This is also why people may try to hurt others. If I can tie this person down and do what I want to them, I have control over them.

Thus the feeling of control is felt. This is why roller coasters are scary, loss of control.

Personally I do this with Emotions. I do not allow myself to feel anything, I want complete control over my emotions. So I end up getting hurt or something and will not allow myself to feel it. The more its supressed the stronger it gets. Till it tears me apart.

Then suddenly I get hit with a ton of emotion. I feel for others and what they go through. Till im wanting to reach out and help everyone. I am overly compassionate. This was viciously used against me all my life.

Oh he will do anything to help. You can get his money anything, the shirt off his back. Then I realized I could control this and become more vicious then they could. I could become mean and abuse their emotions. I watched as abusers in my life were reduced to nothing.

I knew how to figure a person out and their weaknesses. I could destroy their lives. Their relationships, everything. This gave me a feeling of control. While my inner nature would continue to come out.

I wanted nothing of this anymore. It made me weak in the past. It allowed others to use me. Two sides battling constantly.

Anger would come out. Others would be hurt. Then I would try to comfort those I hurt. Not because I was hurt. Oh My little feelings. No because The care for that person would creep out. The urge to want to rush in and take care of someone.

You seek this control out. And you become dead inside. True you become very formiddable against those who come against you but you pay for that in losing all interest in life.

So when you say psychopath. You view this as a positive term. One who does not care about the feelings of others or has any weaknesses to be exploited. You are puffing yourself up. Saying look theres to much strength over here. No one wants to mess with this.

In effect you are running away from how you truly feel. As you said you have delved in it. Not you have felt this way your entire life. A true sociopath does not have the feeling that anything is wrong.

With the RTR our minds have been freed. This has freed up alot of energy and blocks. The effects are like super advancing the soul in a short amount of time. This is causing problems for alot of us.

As our minds can only take so much. We do not understand ourselves as it is. But you are here with family. If you need a friend and need someone to come too. I am here for you.

We are in this together.

 

[Gearshift]

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Oh Aldrick I never meant to apply psychopath to myself. I merely meant with the amount of walking and thinking I do on a daily basis that I feel like a psychotic person sometimes. As my mind never takes a rest unless I'm going to bed.

Thank you for the reply I do have problems with control. According to the astrological information I've studied about myself. One of my biggest problems is probably my South node Leo whereby I kinda script or control everything and want everything in a specific way. I don't accept or more precisely have a harder time accepting the lack of control. Basically my astrological chart states I need to learn to accept the lack of control and go with the flow and see where it ends up. I don't control anything basically, I must accept the I hate to use the word chaos but the randomness of reality.

Anyways thanks for your interesting description of the percentage of brain power. Makes a HUGE understanding I'm glad Mercury Rx didn't butcher your sentences, great response Aldrick.

Also I do have a question, in mindfulness or the teaching of basic meditation to people around the world. They state focus on the Diaphragm for breathing because it is a lower function of the body it may produce feelings of grounding. Is that what we are supposed to be doing with the JoS void(mindfulness) or whatever people want to call it?

I ask because I've read the JoS void MANY times and it doesn't state anything about focusing on the breath? Is it okay to take meditation ques from other meditations? Not to be negative of course but to understand better.

I guess what I'm trying to state is what exactly is void? For example I've had moments that blank out my mind but then I think am I doing it. So I guess what exactly would be void appropriately to train the mind. CAN the mind really be dominated to be fully blank for extended periods of time.

Ever since I studied the JoS before dedicating YEARS ago. I always read of everyone stating the importance of void and mind control. And the funny part is that is the one meditation that makes me go "WTF I can't do it.".

So as a thinker how would I go about sitting there and not flash into my mind thoughts. It almost feels futile trying to control my mind, it'sREALLY tough. In fact it feels like I'm wasting time not thinking it feels like I said a waste of time or futile.

 

[Aldrick Strickland]

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Oh Aldrick I never meant to apply psychopath to myself. I merely meant with the amount of walking and thinking I do on a daily basis that I feel like a psychotic person sometimes. As my mind never takes a rest unless I'm going to bed.

Thank you for the reply I do have problems with control. According to the astrological information I've studied about myself. One of my biggest problems is probably my South node Leo whereby I kinda script or control everything and want everything in a specific way. I don't accept or more precisely have a harder time accepting the lack of control. Basically my astrological chart states I need to learn to accept the lack of control and go with the flow and see where it ends up. I don't control anything basically, I must accept the I hate to use the word chaos but the randomness of reality.

Anyways thanks for your interesting description of the percentage of brain power. Makes a HUGE understanding I'm glad Mercury Rx didn't butcher your sentences, great response Aldrick.

Also I do have a question, in mindfulness or the teaching of basic meditation to people around the world. They state focus on the Diaphragm for breathing because it is a lower function of the body it may produce feelings of grounding. Is that what we are supposed to be doing with the JoS void(mindfulness) or whatever people want to call it?

I ask because I've read the JoS void MANY times and it doesn't state anything about focusing on the breath? Is it okay to take meditation ques from other meditations? Not to be negative of course but to understand better.

I guess what I'm trying to state is what exactly is void? For example I've had moments that blank out my mind but then I think am I doing it. So I guess what exactly would be void appropriately to train the mind. CAN the mind really be dominated to be fully blank for extended periods of time.

Ever since I studied the JoS before dedicating YEARS ago. I always read of everyone stating the importance of void and mind control. And the funny part is that is the one meditation that makes me go "WTF I can't do it.".

So as a thinker how would I go about sitting there and not flash into my mind thoughts. It almost feels futile trying to control my mind, it'sREALLY tough. In fact it feels like I'm wasting time not thinking it feels like I said a waste of time or futile.

There are different types of void. Focusing on the breath, breathe in and breathe out. There is mantra void. Just chant a mantra. Or only focus on a meditation.

Affirmation void. You can say everything is good repeatedely. This wears your mind out and it just goes silent. ISA can help.

I was having trouble with void. I started taking CBD oil. That really helped. I was in a super stressful situation. I got out of that. Now void is effortless.

Like if youre in a situation where youre going to snap. Void is really hard. Sometimes a drink is nice. Its a depressant. But dont overuse.

What we tell ourselves matters. Void is easy. Void is easy. Void is easy.

 

[Gearshift]

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But Aldrick and anyone else isn't the factor of any individual thought a break in void. I know in mindfulness you can achieve a blank mind but thoughts may pop in. It's fine, I know some websites state mindfulness isn't to blank out the mind much like some sites state blanking the mind IS the point of meditation.

My question is how should I define a thought in void? I know I shouldn't punish myself for my mind acting naturally but at the same time it seems futile to try and somehow convince my mind to void out.

So got any tips and tricks available?

Once somebody said that our mind actually hates void meditation.
Why?
Because we stop the exact thing it was designed(?) to do, to think.
I find void meditation hard and I really hate it, and because I'm an overthinker it even harder.
Being an overthinker might mean that my mind is not in control and I overanalyze.


Hope this helps you.

Really interesting statement. I'm aware of that I personally feel like not thinking nor analyzing which I overthink and overanalyze is a waste of time. I mean I literally feel like I MUST think and analyze because there is nothing better to do with my time. Unfortunately lately in the last few years I keep burning myself out of my routine and notice that all I do is walk and think and it's my go to for things.

I'm certainly not a meditator in any way, shape, or form. I merely just think of everything.

 

[Shael]

Once somebody said that our mind actually hates void meditation.
Why?
Because we stop the exact thing it was designed(?) to do, to think.
I find void meditation hard and I really hate it, and because I'm an overthinker it even harder.
Being an overthinker might mean that my mind is not in control and I overanalyze.


Hope this helps you.

Void Meditation is hard for beginners and intermediates because the mind is not used to doing this. It is a new and unfamiliar thing for the mind, and the mind can be stubborn with these things. Consistent practice and application is needed for the mind to get used to this and accept it in a relaxed manner.

Over time, void meditation starts to actually feel good to do. It's only a matter of practice and patience.

 

[Low Priest]

What about my hand and feet...could I open those if I haven't opened the first 7? Can I do aura cleaning in public, like during my 30 min break @work? How can I release excess energy, today while on a bike ride from work I had a moment of reality like I had seen past a weird delusion of self....my being/energy/mind(idk how to explain as I'm still getting used to it) was very intense and everyone else's was pretty much undetectable...some people would give a a weird smile and stare at me as if they new I had a problem with reality. Or they'd just have this weird energy twitch (again idk how to explain I just kinda see/feel this sometimes) I'm guessing they sense my intense energy

 

[Low Priest]

Also when doing void while I'm laying in bed , I recently managed to get a silent mind but if I stay awake my body gets a "frustrated" feeling after a while. How can I practice trance

 

[Powstanie Pogańskie]

What about my hand and feet...could I open those if I haven't opened the first 7? Can I do aura cleaning in public, like during my 30 min break @work? How can I release excess energy, today while on a bike ride from work I had a moment of reality like I had seen past a weird delusion of self....my being/energy/mind(idk how to explain as I'm still getting used to it) was very intense and everyone else's was pretty much undetectable...some people would give a a weird smile and stare at me as if they new I had a problem with reality. Or they'd just have this weird energy twitch (again idk how to explain I just kinda see/feel this sometimes) I'm guessing they sense my intense energy

You should focus on the main seven chakras first; not only is this the healthy course of action, but it inherently makes opening the minor chakras easier. I don't believe that working on them will cause issues the same way that opening the main chakras in the wrong order does - something that has made those who are without very ill - but you'll nevertheless have an easier time with the minor chakras once you've taken care of your main seven. Aura cleaning in public is a matter of environment - so if you're surrounded by people who'll just think you're doing some simple Eastern meditation practices, you're probably fine. This isn't so much the case in Islamic countries. So consider your environment and act accordingly. Also, if you're feeling like you have excess energy building up and it makes you uncomfortable, you should call out to Satan and/or your GD to help by taking this excess energy for the Powers of Hell to utilize. It's a win-win situation all around.

Regarding your other inquiry, my body gets that frustrated feeling too. If I don't focus, I'll instinctively move and pull myself out of a (light) trance state without meaning to. As much as I hate to say it, this is one of those things that only improves with repetition, since your body is needing to get used to this new thing you're doing. I would say if you're experiencing that physical frustration entering a trance, then leave it there for now; don't try to fall into a deeper trance just yet. Grow accustomed to and familiar with the light to moderate trance sensations, try doing some positive energy work in it like building your Aura of Protection.

 

[Low Priest]

What about my hand and feet...could I open those if I haven't opened the first 7? Can I do aura cleaning in public, like during my 30 min break @work? How can I release excess energy, today while on a bike ride from work I had a moment of reality like I had seen past a weird delusion of self....my being/energy/mind(idk how to explain as I'm still getting used to it) was very intense and everyone else's was pretty much undetectable...some people would give a a weird smile and stare at me as if they new I had a problem with reality. Or they'd just have this weird energy twitch (again idk how to explain I just kinda see/feel this sometimes) I'm guessing they sense my intense energy

You should focus on the main seven chakras first; not only is this the healthy course of action, but it inherently makes opening the minor chakras easier. I don't believe that working on them will cause issues the same way that opening the main chakras in the wrong order does - something that has made those who are without very ill - but you'll nevertheless have an easier time with the minor chakras once you've taken care of your main seven. Aura cleaning in public is a matter of environment - so if you're surrounded by people who'll just think you're doing some simple Eastern meditation practices, you're probably fine. This isn't so much the case in Islamic countries. So consider your environment and act accordingly. Also, if you're feeling like you have excess energy building up and it makes you uncomfortable, you should call out to Satan and/or your GD to help by taking this excess energy for the Powers of Hell to utilize. It's a win-win situation all around.

Regarding your other inquiry, my body gets that frustrated feeling too. If I don't focus, I'll instinctively move and pull myself out of a (light) trance state without meaning to. As much as I hate to say it, this is one of those things that only improves with repetition, since your body is needing to get used to this new thing you're doing. I would say if you're experiencing that physical frustration entering a trance, then leave it there for now; don't try to fall into a deeper trance just yet. Grow accustomed to and familiar with the light to moderate trance sensations, try doing some positive energy work in it like building your Aura of Protection.

I appreciate your reply...so when calling out to Satan to take the energy, do I visualize his sigil and then ask? Or do I have to vibrate his name and focus on it for a while? I haven't met my GD as I am still getting used to void

 

[Powstanie Pogańskie]

What about my hand and feet...could I open those if I haven't opened the first 7? Can I do aura cleaning in public, like during my 30 min break @work? How can I release excess energy, today while on a bike ride from work I had a moment of reality like I had seen past a weird delusion of self....my being/energy/mind(idk how to explain as I'm still getting used to it) was very intense and everyone else's was pretty much undetectable...some people would give a a weird smile and stare at me as if they new I had a problem with reality. Or they'd just have this weird energy twitch (again idk how to explain I just kinda see/feel this sometimes) I'm guessing they sense my intense energy

You should focus on the main seven chakras first; not only is this the healthy course of action, but it inherently makes opening the minor chakras easier. I don't believe that working on them will cause issues the same way that opening the main chakras in the wrong order does - something that has made those who are without very ill - but you'll nevertheless have an easier time with the minor chakras once you've taken care of your main seven. Aura cleaning in public is a matter of environment - so if you're surrounded by people who'll just think you're doing some simple Eastern meditation practices, you're probably fine. This isn't so much the case in Islamic countries. So consider your environment and act accordingly. Also, if you're feeling like you have excess energy building up and it makes you uncomfortable, you should call out to Satan and/or your GD to help by taking this excess energy for the Powers of Hell to utilize. It's a win-win situation all around.

Regarding your other inquiry, my body gets that frustrated feeling too. If I don't focus, I'll instinctively move and pull myself out of a (light) trance state without meaning to. As much as I hate to say it, this is one of those things that only improves with repetition, since your body is needing to get used to this new thing you're doing. I would say if you're experiencing that physical frustration entering a trance, then leave it there for now; don't try to fall into a deeper trance just yet. Grow accustomed to and familiar with the light to moderate trance sensations, try doing some positive energy work in it like building your Aura of Protection.

I appreciate your reply...so when calling out to Satan to take the energy, do I visualize his sigil and then ask? Or do I have to vibrate his name and focus on it for a while? I haven't met my GD as I am still getting used to void

That would be an effective way of doing it, indeed. It's always good to focus on Satan's sigil(s) when communicating with Him. As for vibrating His name, I wouldn't say this is necessary but it certainly doesn't hurt, so I'd leave this up to your preference. I do not yet know my GD either, but I nevertheless affirm that I'm calling out to my GD in request for their assistance - whoever they may be.

 

[Jonathon]

I have found that opening my chakras/nadis quietens my mind down rather than giving me more thoughts/feelings. I program energy to open them.