warlock said:
Hi,
I am a newbie and this is my first post. I found this site through the old angelfire site back in the 2000s and found out it’s still online all these years later. I’ve heard lots of bad things about Satanism in the media about sacrificing goats, kids, virgins, raping kids, drinking blood, killing babies etc. Do you condone this behavior or are you against it?
Do you force your beliefs on people? Is this a cult? If I’m not into the whole Satanism thing but am more interested in just divination and magic is this an appropriate forum for that or should I look elsewhere? I’m just a free spirit and I like listening to black metal from time to time. I am a good person, I don’t wish evil upon anyone. Is this forum for me?
Jos is against ritualistic sacrifices of any kind and such things are of the enemy judaic religions.
As shown on the
front page of the Joyofsatan website
We DO NOT advocate or participate in any blood or living sacrifice. This act is Judeo/Christian, as stated in their Bible- Deuteronomy 12:27:
"And thou shalt offer thy burnt offerings, the flesh and the blood, upon the altar of the LORD thy God: and the blood of thy sacrifices shall be poured out upon the altar of the LORD thy God, and thou shalt eat the flesh."
Also on the welcome page: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Welcome.html
There are some other sects of Satanists, or people who call themselves Satanists, that conform to Christian lies of what they believe Satanism to be.
The jewish media will only cover those sects that conform to their agenda and rarely show anything otherwise in a positive/neutral light.
We don't force our beliefs on anyone as Satanism is not for everyone. You can come here to inquire more knowledge about divination methods, just don't push your beliefs here, but imo it would be better to find a suitable forum that you'd be more comfortable in.
I've studied a bit on cults and read about them in many books in my psychology class, particularly heaven's gate, seekers etc..., for me although the Joyofsatan may fit many traits of what's defined as a typical "cult" , and can be mistaken as one, it's not exactly one and promotes otherwise. Quite a lot of information has been updated and gone through changes in the Joyofsatan and we've been taught the importance of thinking and trying things for ourselves and not to rely solely on one source or individual and to not regard them as the "absolute" truth as no one is perfect. We're encouraged to find things out for ourselves and those who do are revered as the ideal Satanists.
https://twentytwowords.com/signs-youre-in-a-cult/
I'll take this website as a format and answer accordingly, many questions can be answered the same so just refer to it.
It's true it's a group of shared spiritual, philosophical, religious and even political interests committed to certain causes in a legal and ethical manner, but the main interest being ones own personal advancement and well being. Spiritual satanism isn't about worshiping the high priests but we come to respect them and acknowledge as advisors in the path but we don't necessarily have to. Same can be said about Satan and the gods. Even though it says mind altering practices are promoted, including meditation, it doesn't necessarily make one involved in a cult.
What one does in their personal life is their business only and should not be determined solely on what anyone says here, although one can welcome suggestions if they're in need of help making decisions, no one should tell you what you can or can't do as it's entirely up to you in the end.
Unfortunately it's been quite common for many people to regard themselves as "elite" and superior in Satanism and many have made this mistake, but spiritual satanism is about working to better yourself and not to immediately assume a higher status than anyone, and ones affiliation to the organization should not be used to prove anything and is in fact discouraged for safety and ethical purposes.
Ones personal life and matters are the priority here, no one is told they have to abandoned their responsibilities/duties for anything. In certain group rituals for example no one is forced to do them but we're encouraged to do so and at our best suitable times or certain preferred times only if possible. In the end it's ones own personal choice.
How one lives their life is entirely up to them, and one doesn't have to accommodate Satanic beliefs in it. Again your personal life is your own business.
We don't owe anything to anyone and again Satanism is not for everyone, whether you choose to be a part of the JoyofSatan or not no one really cares, or should care at all.
The JoyofSatan never demanded money, the choice to donate and how much is our own free will, and the information and knowledge on the website has remained free while other sects almost always make such knowledge at a price, such as selling books at unreasonable prices and almost always has nothing of value. Then there's a lardo who charges $2 for short lectures that you most likely you can find on the internet for free, I would probably learn more spending that $2 on a slot machine honestly.
You're free to leave, no one is compelling you to stay and be careful about imitators who pretend to be members. We don't condone fear tactics and aren't desperate for members to resort to such, the JoyofSatan will grow through honest and genuine means.
Hopefully you find this answer useful.
There have been many misconceptions exaggerated by many individuals against the JoS because of how controversial it is, but often times these individuals are proven hypocrites who fabricate lies and slander. I encourage you to try not to take everything one sided as shown you've obviously not read the site entirely, but the fact that you've come here clarification shows you've got a good open mind and are willing to find things out for yourself.